Re: [Skunkworks] Is number portability finally here?
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war. There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services. And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network Regards On 13/04/2010, skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke <skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
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This is a step in the right direction - to ensure quality software locally and also create a software-testing resource pool which can outsource for international jobs - but unfortunately the message comes late to all who would have wanted to attend:
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
Kind Regards
John
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, John Matogo <JMatogo@strathmore.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
For your information, see the email below.
Regards,
John Matogo ------------------------------
*From:* Roland Omoresemi [mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com] *Sent:* 30 March 2010 13:35 *To:* ; *Subject:* Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association
You are receiving this invitation to attend a meeting on the evening of April 13th at 6:30 PM at the Jacaranda Hotel where some *IT* *like-minded*people will come together to discuss the formation of the very first Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association.
The formation of this Association is the very first step in the creation of a Software Testing Qualification Board in Kenya that aligns with the world recognized "International Software Testing Qualification Board - ISTQB" - a board that has chapters in 44 countries with over 110,000 certified Software Testers worldwide.
The purpose of this meeting is to:
1. Formally review the primary goals and objectives of the association (as stated below)
2. Receive membership commitment from attendees. *Please note that there's no membership fee to join this club as it is a VOLUNTEER-ONLY membership*.
3. Vote on interim official positions to be filled.
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
*The primary goals of this association are as follows:*
- To contribute to the recognition of software testing in Kenya as a professional activity performed by skilled, competent and certified individuals.
- To incorporate software testing as a profession in the Kenyan context and to develop this scarce resource to be part of the IT delivery of skills and technology.
- To harness the knowledge and skills of experienced software testing practitioners in the Kenyan IT market to the benefit of both the local and international software testing community.
- To contribute to the deeper understanding of all facets of software testing, by participating in ISTQB working groups.
- To provide skills development and certification for workers at all levels of IT industry, by linking future technology trends with ongoing certification. - To provide a means by which resources can be developed and aligned with future trends in the industry in order to ensure that professional services can be delivered to all domains requiring such skills.
- To provide the Kenyan IT market with a common understanding of testing through the use of ISTQB's syllabus and certification process. - To highlight the importance of independent software testing and the benefits to be achieved by using generally accepted standards. - To provide Kenyan testing professionals access to internationally recognised experts in the software testing domain.
- To contribute to Information and Communication Technology (ICT) training programs.
- To provide an internationally recognized qualification.
- To attract outsourcing to SA through alignment with international standards.
- To ensure that quality training and certification are obtained and retained.
- To have a standard to which all companies can relate and acquire quality certified resources.
- To incorporate universities and technicons and to promote testing as a professional career in the industry.
- To increase the number of Software testing resources available to meet market needs.
- To retain resources as well as create software testing job opportunities within Kenya.
- To attach a credible professional qualification to candidates and commensurate remuneration.
- To supply a much needed, constant stream of skilled resources to the Kenyan market.
- To align and manage all training courses according to ISTQB standards, inclusive of course substance. - To ensure compliance with ISTQB standards and guidelines. - To facilitate the certification of software testing professionals in Kenya in accordance with ISTQB standards. - To provide the Kenyan training institutions with accreditation to conduct courses using the ISTQB syllabi. - To be the management and control body for software test engineering education in Kenya.
Please do not hesitate to write should you have questions or need clarity with regards to any of points mentioned in this email.
Thank you,
Roland Omoresemi | *CEO*
Tezza Business Solutions,
9530 Oswald lane
Charlotte, NC 28277
704.604.4668
roland@tezzasolutions.com
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Responses from operators attached http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/published_responses.html Technically, I suspect its deployment to be painful.E.g. If i subscribe to Number portabilty, this means my NDC(0722) will remain the same across networks.This means a separate entity/Sub Db will be required to be queried for every call setup in the network(s) which has to be integrated to all operator billing systems. If I migrate to say orange, and use their network, obviously services will not vary.Its not clear how the transparent the tariff will be since a safcom subscriber calling me will expect to be charged as normal whereas I'm now technically on Orange network. What's the mechanism to be used to inform the caller that the dialed number is now on Orange and not safcom? Wouldn't that lead to confusion? Will there be delays in call setup time since now a separate core network node has been introduced? Are there successful(or not) case studies for us to understand these scenarios? ./bernard On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services.
And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
Regards
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This is a step in the right direction - to ensure quality software locally and also create a software-testing resource pool which can outsource for international jobs - but unfortunately the message comes late to all who would have wanted to attend:
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
Kind Regards
John
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, John Matogo <JMatogo@strathmore.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
For your information, see the email below.
Regards,
John Matogo ------------------------------
*From:* Roland Omoresemi [mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com] *Sent:* 30 March 2010 13:35 *To:* ; *Subject:* Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association
You are receiving this invitation to attend a meeting on the evening of April 13th at 6:30 PM at the Jacaranda Hotel where some *IT* *like-minded*people will come together to discuss the formation of the very first Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association.
The formation of this Association is the very first step in the creation of a Software Testing Qualification Board in Kenya that aligns with the world recognized "International Software Testing Qualification Board - ISTQB"
On 13/04/2010, skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke <skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: -
a board that has chapters in 44 countries with over 110,000 certified Software Testers worldwide.
The purpose of this meeting is to:
1. Formally review the primary goals and objectives of the association (as stated below)
2. Receive membership commitment from attendees. *Please note that there's no membership fee to join this club as it is a VOLUNTEER-ONLY membership*.
3. Vote on interim official positions to be filled.
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
*The primary goals of this association are as follows:*
- To contribute to the recognition of software testing in Kenya as a professional activity performed by skilled, competent and certified individuals.
- To incorporate software testing as a profession in the Kenyan context and to develop this scarce resource to be part of the IT delivery of skills and technology.
- To harness the knowledge and skills of experienced software testing practitioners in the Kenyan IT market to the benefit of both the local and international software testing community.
- To contribute to the deeper understanding of all facets of software testing, by participating in ISTQB working groups.
- To provide skills development and certification for workers at all levels of IT industry, by linking future technology trends with ongoing certification. - To provide a means by which resources can be developed and aligned with future trends in the industry in order to ensure that professional services can be delivered to all domains requiring such skills.
- To provide the Kenyan IT market with a common understanding of testing through the use of ISTQB's syllabus and certification process. - To highlight the importance of independent software testing and the benefits to be achieved by using generally accepted standards. - To provide Kenyan testing professionals access to internationally recognised experts in the software testing domain.
- To contribute to Information and Communication Technology (ICT) training programs.
- To provide an internationally recognized qualification.
- To attract outsourcing to SA through alignment with international standards.
- To ensure that quality training and certification are obtained and retained.
- To have a standard to which all companies can relate and acquire quality certified resources.
- To incorporate universities and technicons and to promote testing as a professional career in the industry.
- To increase the number of Software testing resources available to meet market needs.
- To retain resources as well as create software testing job opportunities within Kenya.
- To attach a credible professional qualification to candidates and commensurate remuneration.
- To supply a much needed, constant stream of skilled resources to the Kenyan market.
- To align and manage all training courses according to ISTQB standards, inclusive of course substance. - To ensure compliance with ISTQB standards and guidelines. - To facilitate the certification of software testing professionals in Kenya in accordance with ISTQB standards. - To provide the Kenyan training institutions with accreditation to conduct courses using the ISTQB syllabi. - To be the management and control body for software test engineering education in Kenya.
Please do not hesitate to write should you have questions or need clarity with regards to any of points mentioned in this email.
Thank you,
Roland Omoresemi | *CEO*
Tezza Business Solutions,
9530 Oswald lane
Charlotte, NC 28277
704.604.4668
roland@tezzasolutions.com
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Number portability is working in many countries - for example SA - and all these are taken into account when CCK was doing the feasibility studies - We are not doing one here to answer this questions. ./Ok3ch On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Responses from operators attached http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/published_responses.html Technically, I suspect its deployment to be painful.E.g. If i subscribe to Number portabilty, this means my NDC(0722) will remain the same across networks.This means a separate entity/Sub Db will be required to be queried for every call setup in the network(s) which has to be integrated to all operator billing systems. If I migrate to say orange, and use their network, obviously services will not vary.Its not clear how the transparent the tariff will be since a safcom subscriber calling me will expect to be charged as normal whereas I'm now technically on Orange network. What's the mechanism to be used to inform the caller that the dialed number is now on Orange and not safcom? Wouldn't that lead to confusion? Will there be delays in call setup time since now a separate core network node has been introduced? Are there successful(or not) case studies for us to understand these scenarios?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services.
And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
Regards
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This is a step in the right direction - to ensure quality software locally and also create a software-testing resource pool which can outsource for international jobs - but unfortunately the message comes late to all who would have wanted to attend:
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
Kind Regards
John
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, John Matogo <JMatogo@strathmore.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
For your information, see the email below.
Regards,
John Matogo ------------------------------
*From:* Roland Omoresemi [mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com] *Sent:* 30 March 2010 13:35 *To:* ; *Subject:* Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association
You are receiving this invitation to attend a meeting on the evening of April 13th at 6:30 PM at the Jacaranda Hotel where some *IT* *like-minded*people will come together to discuss the formation of the very first Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association.
The formation of this Association is the very first step in the creation of a Software Testing Qualification Board in Kenya that aligns with the world recognized "International Software Testing Qualification Board - ISTQB" - a board that has chapters in 44 countries with over 110,000 certified Software Testers worldwide.
The purpose of this meeting is to:
1. Formally review the primary goals and objectives of the association (as stated below)
2. Receive membership commitment from attendees. *Please note that there's no membership fee to join this club as it is a VOLUNTEER-ONLY membership*.
3. Vote on interim official positions to be filled.
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
*The primary goals of this association are as follows:*
- To contribute to the recognition of software testing in Kenya as a professional activity performed by skilled, competent and certified individuals.
- To incorporate software testing as a profession in the Kenyan context and to develop this scarce resource to be part of the IT delivery of skills and technology.
- To harness the knowledge and skills of experienced software testing practitioners in the Kenyan IT market to the benefit of both the local and international software testing community.
- To contribute to the deeper understanding of all facets of software testing, by participating in ISTQB working groups.
- To provide skills development and certification for workers at all levels of IT industry, by linking future technology trends with ongoing certification. - To provide a means by which resources can be developed and aligned with future trends in the industry in order to ensure that professional services can be delivered to all domains requiring such skills.
- To provide the Kenyan IT market with a common understanding of testing through the use of ISTQB's syllabus and certification process. - To highlight the importance of independent software testing and the benefits to be achieved by using generally accepted standards. - To provide Kenyan testing professionals access to internationally recognised experts in the software testing domain.
- To contribute to Information and Communication Technology (ICT) training programs.
- To provide an internationally recognized qualification.
- To attract outsourcing to SA through alignment with international standards.
- To ensure that quality training and certification are obtained and retained.
- To have a standard to which all companies can relate and acquire quality certified resources.
- To incorporate universities and technicons and to promote testing as a professional career in the industry.
- To increase the number of Software testing resources available to meet market needs.
- To retain resources as well as create software testing job opportunities within Kenya.
- To attach a credible professional qualification to candidates and commensurate remuneration.
- To supply a much needed, constant stream of skilled resources to the Kenyan market.
- To align and manage all training courses according to ISTQB standards, inclusive of course substance. - To ensure compliance with ISTQB standards and guidelines. - To facilitate the certification of software testing professionals in Kenya in accordance with ISTQB standards. - To provide the Kenyan training institutions with accreditation to conduct courses using the ISTQB syllabi. - To be the management and control body for software test engineering education in Kenya.
Please do not hesitate to write should you have questions or need clarity with regards to any of points mentioned in this email.
Thank you,
Roland Omoresemi | *CEO*
Tezza Business Solutions,
9530 Oswald lane
Charlotte, NC 28277
704.604.4668
roland@tezzasolutions.com
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My hunch is that come July operators ( Read Safaricom) will mention that this is not something that will not happen overninght and will need time to move to the new regime. Mark my Prophecy -come July number portability will not be a reality. In fact not in the next 1 year. Werent all sim cards supposed to be registered by last December ? Kevin On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Number portability is working in many countries - for example SA - and all these are taken into account when CCK was doing the feasibility studies - We are not doing one here to answer this questions.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Responses from operators attached http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/published_responses.html Technically, I suspect its deployment to be painful.E.g. If i subscribe to Number portabilty, this means my NDC(0722) will remain the same across networks.This means a separate entity/Sub Db will be required to be queried for every call setup in the network(s) which has to be integrated to all operator billing systems. If I migrate to say orange, and use their network, obviously services will not vary.Its not clear how the transparent the tariff will be since a safcom subscriber calling me will expect to be charged as normal whereas I'm now technically on Orange network. What's the mechanism to be used to inform the caller that the dialed number is now on Orange and not safcom? Wouldn't that lead to confusion? Will there be delays in call setup time since now a separate core network node has been introduced? Are there successful(or not) case studies for us to understand these scenarios?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services.
And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
Regards
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This is a step in the right direction - to ensure quality software locally and also create a software-testing resource pool which can outsource for international jobs - but unfortunately the message comes late to all who would have wanted to attend:
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
Kind Regards
John
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, John Matogo <JMatogo@strathmore.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
For your information, see the email below.
Regards,
John Matogo ------------------------------
*From:* Roland Omoresemi [mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com] *Sent:* 30 March 2010 13:35 *To:* ; *Subject:* Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association
You are receiving this invitation to attend a meeting on the evening of April 13th at 6:30 PM at the Jacaranda Hotel where some *IT* *like-minded*people will come together to discuss the formation of the very first Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association.
The formation of this Association is the very first step in the creation of a Software Testing Qualification Board in Kenya that aligns with the world recognized "International Software Testing Qualification Board - ISTQB" - a board that has chapters in 44 countries with over 110,000 certified Software Testers worldwide.
The purpose of this meeting is to:
1. Formally review the primary goals and objectives of the association (as stated below)
2. Receive membership commitment from attendees. *Please note that there's no membership fee to join this club as it is a VOLUNTEER-ONLY membership*.
3. Vote on interim official positions to be filled.
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
*The primary goals of this association are as follows:*
- To contribute to the recognition of software testing in Kenya as a professional activity performed by skilled, competent and certified individuals.
- To incorporate software testing as a profession in the Kenyan context and to develop this scarce resource to be part of the IT delivery of skills and technology.
- To harness the knowledge and skills of experienced software testing practitioners in the Kenyan IT market to the benefit of both the local and international software testing community.
- To contribute to the deeper understanding of all facets of software testing, by participating in ISTQB working groups.
- To provide skills development and certification for workers at all levels of IT industry, by linking future technology trends with ongoing certification. - To provide a means by which resources can be developed and aligned with future trends in the industry in order to ensure that professional services can be delivered to all domains requiring such skills.
- To provide the Kenyan IT market with a common understanding of testing through the use of ISTQB's syllabus and certification process. - To highlight the importance of independent software testing and the benefits to be achieved by using generally accepted standards. - To provide Kenyan testing professionals access to internationally recognised experts in the software testing domain.
- To contribute to Information and Communication Technology (ICT) training programs.
- To provide an internationally recognized qualification.
- To attract outsourcing to SA through alignment with international standards.
- To ensure that quality training and certification are obtained and retained.
- To have a standard to which all companies can relate and acquire quality certified resources.
- To incorporate universities and technicons and to promote testing as a professional career in the industry.
- To increase the number of Software testing resources available to meet market needs.
- To retain resources as well as create software testing job opportunities within Kenya.
- To attach a credible professional qualification to candidates and commensurate remuneration.
- To supply a much needed, constant stream of skilled resources to the Kenyan market.
- To align and manage all training courses according to ISTQB standards, inclusive of course substance. - To ensure compliance with ISTQB standards and guidelines. - To facilitate the certification of software testing professionals in Kenya in accordance with ISTQB standards. - To provide the Kenyan training institutions with accreditation to conduct courses using the ISTQB syllabi. - To be the management and control body for software test engineering education in Kenya.
Please do not hesitate to write should you have questions or need clarity with regards to any of points mentioned in this email.
Thank you,
Roland Omoresemi | *CEO*
Tezza Business Solutions,
9530 Oswald lane
Charlotte, NC 28277
704.604.4668
roland@tezzasolutions.com
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I doubt as well.... ./bernard On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
My hunch is that come July operators ( Read Safaricom) will mention that this is not something that will not happen overninght and will need time to move to the new regime.
Mark my Prophecy -come July number portability will not be a reality. In fact not in the next 1 year.
Werent all sim cards supposed to be registered by last December ?
Kevin
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Number portability is working in many countries - for example SA - and all these are taken into account when CCK was doing the feasibility studies - We are not doing one here to answer this questions.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Responses from operators attached http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/published_responses.html Technically, I suspect its deployment to be painful.E.g. If i subscribe to Number portabilty, this means my NDC(0722) will remain the same across networks.This means a separate entity/Sub Db will be required to be queried for every call setup in the network(s) which has to be integrated to all operator billing systems. If I migrate to say orange, and use their network, obviously services will not vary.Its not clear how the transparent the tariff will be since a safcom subscriber calling me will expect to be charged as normal whereas I'm now technically on Orange network. What's the mechanism to be used to inform the caller that the dialed number is now on Orange and not safcom? Wouldn't that lead to confusion? Will there be delays in call setup time since now a separate core network node has been introduced? Are there successful(or not) case studies for us to understand these scenarios?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services.
And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
Regards
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This is a step in the right direction - to ensure quality software locally and also create a software-testing resource pool which can outsource for international jobs - but unfortunately the message comes late to all who would have wanted to attend:
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
Kind Regards
John
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Dear colleagues,
For your information, see the email below.
Regards,
John Matogo ------------------------------
*From:* Roland Omoresemi [mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com] *Sent:* 30 March 2010 13:35 *To:* ; *Subject:* Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association
You are receiving this invitation to attend a meeting on the evening of April 13th at 6:30 PM at the Jacaranda Hotel where some *IT* *like-minded*people will come together to discuss the formation of the very first Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association.
The formation of this Association is the very first step in the creation of a Software Testing Qualification Board in Kenya that aligns with the world recognized "International Software Testing Qualification Board - ISTQB" - a board that has chapters in 44 countries with over 110,000 certified Software Testers worldwide.
The purpose of this meeting is to:
1. Formally review the primary goals and objectives of the association (as stated below)
2. Receive membership commitment from attendees. *Please note that there's no membership fee to join this club as it is a VOLUNTEER-ONLY membership*.
3. Vote on interim official positions to be filled.
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
*The primary goals of this association are as follows:*
- To contribute to the recognition of software testing in Kenya as a professional activity performed by skilled, competent and certified individuals.
- To incorporate software testing as a profession in the Kenyan context and to develop this scarce resource to be part of the IT delivery of skills and technology.
- To harness the knowledge and skills of experienced software testing practitioners in the Kenyan IT market to the benefit of both the local and international software testing community.
- To contribute to the deeper understanding of all facets of software testing, by participating in ISTQB working groups.
- To provide skills development and certification for workers at all levels of IT industry, by linking future technology trends with ongoing certification. - To provide a means by which resources can be developed and aligned with future trends in the industry in order to ensure that professional services can be delivered to all domains requiring such skills.
- To provide the Kenyan IT market with a common understanding of testing through the use of ISTQB's syllabus and certification process. - To highlight the importance of independent software testing and the benefits to be achieved by using generally accepted standards. - To provide Kenyan testing professionals access to internationally recognised experts in the software testing domain.
- To contribute to Information and Communication Technology (ICT) training programs.
- To provide an internationally recognized qualification.
- To attract outsourcing to SA through alignment with international standards.
- To ensure that quality training and certification are obtained and retained.
- To have a standard to which all companies can relate and acquire quality certified resources.
- To incorporate universities and technicons and to promote testing as a professional career in the industry.
- To increase the number of Software testing resources available to meet market needs.
- To retain resources as well as create software testing job opportunities within Kenya.
- To attach a credible professional qualification to candidates and commensurate remuneration.
- To supply a much needed, constant stream of skilled resources to the Kenyan market.
- To align and manage all training courses according to ISTQB standards, inclusive of course substance. - To ensure compliance with ISTQB standards and guidelines. - To facilitate the certification of software testing professionals in Kenya in accordance with ISTQB standards. - To provide the Kenyan training institutions with accreditation to conduct courses using the ISTQB syllabi. - To be the management and control body for software test engineering education in Kenya.
Please do not hesitate to write should you have questions or need clarity with regards to any of points mentioned in this email.
Thank you,
Roland Omoresemi | *CEO*
Tezza Business Solutions,
9530 Oswald lane
Charlotte, NC 28277
704.604.4668
roland@tezzasolutions.com
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What;s the experience in these countries? E.g. In SA, how much does it cost to have my number "ported" to another network? And how are the services transparent, if at all? ./bernard On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Number portability is working in many countries - for example SA - and all these are taken into account when CCK was doing the feasibility studies - We are not doing one here to answer this questions.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Responses from operators attached http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/published_responses.html Technically, I suspect its deployment to be painful.E.g. If i subscribe to Number portabilty, this means my NDC(0722) will remain the same across networks.This means a separate entity/Sub Db will be required to be queried for every call setup in the network(s) which has to be integrated to all operator billing systems. If I migrate to say orange, and use their network, obviously services will not vary.Its not clear how the transparent the tariff will be since a safcom subscriber calling me will expect to be charged as normal whereas I'm now technically on Orange network. What's the mechanism to be used to inform the caller that the dialed number is now on Orange and not safcom? Wouldn't that lead to confusion? Will there be delays in call setup time since now a separate core network node has been introduced? Are there successful(or not) case studies for us to understand these scenarios?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services.
And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
Regards
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This is a step in the right direction - to ensure quality software locally and also create a software-testing resource pool which can outsource for international jobs - but unfortunately the message comes late to all who would have wanted to attend:
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
Kind Regards
John
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, John Matogo <JMatogo@strathmore.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
For your information, see the email below.
Regards,
John Matogo ------------------------------
*From:* Roland Omoresemi [mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com] *Sent:* 30 March 2010 13:35 *To:* ; *Subject:* Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association
You are receiving this invitation to attend a meeting on the evening of April 13th at 6:30 PM at the Jacaranda Hotel where some *IT* *like-minded*people will come together to discuss the formation of the very first Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association.
The formation of this Association is the very first step in the creation of a Software Testing Qualification Board in Kenya that aligns with the world recognized "International Software Testing Qualification Board - ISTQB" - a board that has chapters in 44 countries with over 110,000 certified Software Testers worldwide.
The purpose of this meeting is to:
1. Formally review the primary goals and objectives of the association (as stated below)
2. Receive membership commitment from attendees. *Please note that there's no membership fee to join this club as it is a VOLUNTEER-ONLY membership*.
3. Vote on interim official positions to be filled.
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
*The primary goals of this association are as follows:*
- To contribute to the recognition of software testing in Kenya as a professional activity performed by skilled, competent and certified individuals.
- To incorporate software testing as a profession in the Kenyan context and to develop this scarce resource to be part of the IT delivery of skills and technology.
- To harness the knowledge and skills of experienced software testing practitioners in the Kenyan IT market to the benefit of both the local and international software testing community.
- To contribute to the deeper understanding of all facets of software testing, by participating in ISTQB working groups.
- To provide skills development and certification for workers at all levels of IT industry, by linking future technology trends with ongoing certification. - To provide a means by which resources can be developed and aligned with future trends in the industry in order to ensure that professional services can be delivered to all domains requiring such skills.
- To provide the Kenyan IT market with a common understanding of testing through the use of ISTQB's syllabus and certification process. - To highlight the importance of independent software testing and the benefits to be achieved by using generally accepted standards. - To provide Kenyan testing professionals access to internationally recognised experts in the software testing domain.
- To contribute to Information and Communication Technology (ICT) training programs.
- To provide an internationally recognized qualification.
- To attract outsourcing to SA through alignment with international standards.
- To ensure that quality training and certification are obtained and retained.
- To have a standard to which all companies can relate and acquire quality certified resources.
- To incorporate universities and technicons and to promote testing as a professional career in the industry.
- To increase the number of Software testing resources available to meet market needs.
- To retain resources as well as create software testing job opportunities within Kenya.
- To attach a credible professional qualification to candidates and commensurate remuneration.
- To supply a much needed, constant stream of skilled resources to the Kenyan market.
- To align and manage all training courses according to ISTQB standards, inclusive of course substance. - To ensure compliance with ISTQB standards and guidelines. - To facilitate the certification of software testing professionals in Kenya in accordance with ISTQB standards. - To provide the Kenyan training institutions with accreditation to conduct courses using the ISTQB syllabi. - To be the management and control body for software test engineering education in Kenya.
Please do not hesitate to write should you have questions or need clarity with regards to any of points mentioned in this email.
Thank you,
Roland Omoresemi | *CEO*
Tezza Business Solutions,
9530 Oswald lane
Charlotte, NC 28277
704.604.4668
roland@tezzasolutions.com
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Alot of what you are asking is answered here - http://www.cellucity.co.za/numberporting.htm ./Ok3ch On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What;s the experience in these countries? E.g. In SA, how much does it cost to have my number "ported" to another network? And how are the services transparent, if at all?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Number portability is working in many countries - for example SA - and all these are taken into account when CCK was doing the feasibility studies - We are not doing one here to answer this questions.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Responses from operators attached http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/published_responses.html Technically, I suspect its deployment to be painful.E.g. If i subscribe to Number portabilty, this means my NDC(0722) will remain the same across networks.This means a separate entity/Sub Db will be required to be queried for every call setup in the network(s) which has to be integrated to all operator billing systems. If I migrate to say orange, and use their network, obviously services will not vary.Its not clear how the transparent the tariff will be since a safcom subscriber calling me will expect to be charged as normal whereas I'm now technically on Orange network. What's the mechanism to be used to inform the caller that the dialed number is now on Orange and not safcom? Wouldn't that lead to confusion? Will there be delays in call setup time since now a separate core network node has been introduced? Are there successful(or not) case studies for us to understand these scenarios?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services.
And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
Regards
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This is a step in the right direction - to ensure quality software locally and also create a software-testing resource pool which can outsource for international jobs - but unfortunately the message comes late to all who would have wanted to attend:
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
Kind Regards
John
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, John Matogo <JMatogo@strathmore.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
For your information, see the email below.
Regards,
John Matogo ------------------------------
*From:* Roland Omoresemi [mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com] *Sent:* 30 March 2010 13:35 *To:* ; *Subject:* Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association
You are receiving this invitation to attend a meeting on the evening of April 13th at 6:30 PM at the Jacaranda Hotel where some *IT* *like-minded*people will come together to discuss the formation of the very first Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association.
The formation of this Association is the very first step in the creation of a Software Testing Qualification Board in Kenya that aligns with the world recognized "International Software Testing Qualification Board - ISTQB" - a board that has chapters in 44 countries with over 110,000 certified Software Testers worldwide.
The purpose of this meeting is to:
1. Formally review the primary goals and objectives of the association (as stated below)
2. Receive membership commitment from attendees. *Please note that there's no membership fee to join this club as it is a VOLUNTEER-ONLY membership*.
3. Vote on interim official positions to be filled.
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
*The primary goals of this association are as follows:*
- To contribute to the recognition of software testing in Kenya as a professional activity performed by skilled, competent and certified individuals.
- To incorporate software testing as a profession in the Kenyan context and to develop this scarce resource to be part of the IT delivery of skills and technology.
- To harness the knowledge and skills of experienced software testing practitioners in the Kenyan IT market to the benefit of both the local and international software testing community.
- To contribute to the deeper understanding of all facets of software testing, by participating in ISTQB working groups.
- To provide skills development and certification for workers at all levels of IT industry, by linking future technology trends with ongoing certification. - To provide a means by which resources can be developed and aligned with future trends in the industry in order to ensure that professional services can be delivered to all domains requiring such skills.
- To provide the Kenyan IT market with a common understanding of testing through the use of ISTQB's syllabus and certification process. - To highlight the importance of independent software testing and the benefits to be achieved by using generally accepted standards. - To provide Kenyan testing professionals access to internationally recognised experts in the software testing domain.
- To contribute to Information and Communication Technology (ICT) training programs.
- To provide an internationally recognized qualification.
- To attract outsourcing to SA through alignment with international standards.
- To ensure that quality training and certification are obtained and retained.
- To have a standard to which all companies can relate and acquire quality certified resources.
- To incorporate universities and technicons and to promote testing as a professional career in the industry.
- To increase the number of Software testing resources available to meet market needs.
- To retain resources as well as create software testing job opportunities within Kenya.
- To attach a credible professional qualification to candidates and commensurate remuneration.
- To supply a much needed, constant stream of skilled resources to the Kenyan market.
- To align and manage all training courses according to ISTQB standards, inclusive of course substance. - To ensure compliance with ISTQB standards and guidelines. - To facilitate the certification of software testing professionals in Kenya in accordance with ISTQB standards. - To provide the Kenyan training institutions with accreditation to conduct courses using the ISTQB syllabi. - To be the management and control body for software test engineering education in Kenya.
Please do not hesitate to write should you have questions or need clarity with regards to any of points mentioned in this email.
Thank you,
Roland Omoresemi | *CEO*
Tezza Business Solutions,
9530 Oswald lane
Charlotte, NC 28277
704.604.4668
roland@tezzasolutions.com
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Thanks Okech... This is where I suspected the confusion will set in: *8.If I can't tell what network somebody is with from the number, how will discounts for calls on the same network operate (on-net calls)? * The providers will know who their customers are, so they can still offer the discounts, but callers won't necessarily know if the people they call have switched to a new provider. To avoid unexpected charges, mobile users should confirm with their friends and their associates that they are using the same mobile network. It is therefore generally always better to use the service of the largest network(*Vodacom*), with the most subscribers to enjoy the cheapest calls. ./bernard On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Alot of what you are asking is answered here - http://www.cellucity.co.za/numberporting.htm
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What;s the experience in these countries? E.g. In SA, how much does it cost to have my number "ported" to another network? And how are the services transparent, if at all?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Number portability is working in many countries - for example SA - and all these are taken into account when CCK was doing the feasibility studies - We are not doing one here to answer this questions.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Responses from operators attached http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/published_responses.html Technically, I suspect its deployment to be painful.E.g. If i
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to Number portabilty, this means my NDC(0722) will remain the same across networks.This means a separate entity/Sub Db will be required to be queried for every call setup in the network(s) which has to be integrated to all operator billing systems. If I migrate to say orange, and use their network, obviously services will not vary.Its not clear how the transparent the tariff will be since a safcom subscriber calling me will expect to be charged as normal whereas I'm now technically on Orange network. What's the mechanism to be used to inform the caller that the dialed number is now on Orange and not safcom? Wouldn't that lead to confusion? Will there be delays in call setup time since now a separate core network node has been introduced? Are there successful(or not) case studies for us to understand these scenarios?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services.
And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
Regards
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:21:57 +0300 From: John Ndambuki <johnmndambuki@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] FW: Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association Message-ID:
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This is a step in the right direction - to ensure quality software locally and also create a software-testing resource pool which can
outsource
for international jobs - but unfortunately the message comes late to all who would have wanted to attend:
*It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP via a response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.*
Kind Regards
John
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, John Matogo < JMatogo@strathmore.edu> wrote:
> Dear colleagues, > > > > For your information, see the email below. > > > > Regards, > > > > John Matogo > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Roland Omoresemi [mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com] > *Sent:* 30 March 2010 13:35 > *To:* ; > *Subject:* Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association > > > > You are receiving this invitation to attend a meeting on the evening > of > April 13th at 6:30 PM at the Jacaranda Hotel where some *IT* > *like-minded*people will come together to discuss the formation of > the > very first Kenya > Software Testing Qualification Association. > > > > The formation of this Association is the very first step in the > creation > of > a Software Testing Qualification Board in Kenya that aligns with the > world > recognized "International Software Testing Qualification Board - > ISTQB" > - > a > board that has chapters in 44 countries with over 110,000 certified > Software > Testers worldwide. > > > > The purpose of this meeting is to: > > 1. Formally review the primary goals and objectives of the > association > (as > stated below) > > 2. Receive membership commitment from attendees. *Please note that > there's > no membership fee to join this club as it is a VOLUNTEER-ONLY > membership*. > > > 3. Vote on interim official positions to be filled. > > > > *It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must RSVP > via > a > response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.* > > > > *The primary goals of this association are as follows:* > > > > - To contribute to the recognition of software testing in Kenya as a > professional activity performed by skilled, competent and certified > individuals. > > - To incorporate software testing as a profession in the Kenyan > context > and > to develop this scarce resource to be part of the IT delivery of > skills > and > technology. > > - To harness the knowledge and skills of experienced software > testing > practitioners in the Kenyan IT market to the benefit of both the > local > and > international software testing community. > > - To contribute to the deeper understanding of all facets of > software > testing, by participating in ISTQB working groups. > > - To provide skills development and certification for workers at all > levels > of IT industry, by linking future technology trends with ongoing > certification. > - To provide a means by which resources can be developed and aligned > with > future trends in the industry in order to ensure that professional > services > can be delivered to all domains requiring such skills. > > - To provide the Kenyan IT market with a common understanding of > testing > through the use of ISTQB's syllabus and certification process. > - To highlight the importance of independent software testing and > the > benefits to be achieved by using generally accepted standards. > - To provide Kenyan testing professionals access to internationally > recognised experts in the software testing domain. > > - To contribute to Information and Communication Technology (ICT) > training > programs. > > - To provide an internationally recognized qualification. > > - To attract outsourcing to SA through alignment with international > standards. > > - To ensure that quality training and certification are obtained and > retained. > > - To have a standard to which all companies can relate and acquire > quality > certified resources. > > - To incorporate universities and technicons and to promote testing > as > a > professional career in the industry. > > - To increase the number of Software testing resources available to > meet > market needs. > > - To retain resources as well as create software testing job > opportunities > within Kenya. > > - To attach a credible professional qualification to candidates and > commensurate remuneration. > > - To supply a much needed, constant stream of skilled resources to > the > Kenyan market. > > - To align and manage all training courses according to ISTQB > standards, > inclusive of course substance. > - To ensure compliance with ISTQB standards and guidelines. > - To facilitate the certification of software testing professionals > in > Kenya in accordance with ISTQB standards. > - To provide the Kenyan training institutions with accreditation to > conduct > courses using the ISTQB syllabi. > - To be the management and control body for software test > engineering > education in Kenya. > > Please do not hesitate to write should you have questions or need > clarity > with regards to any of points mentioned in this email. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Roland Omoresemi | *CEO* > > Tezza Business Solutions, > > 9530 Oswald lane > > Charlotte, NC 28277 > > 704.604.4668 > > roland@tezzasolutions.com > > ------------------------------ > Strathmore University provides all-round education in an atmosphere > of > freedom and responsibility. > This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for > use > by > the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain > confidential > information. 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Very true, your concerns are real and will be a challenge - I think if the mobile companies are genuine then cross network charges can be much lower and next to standardized like the 8bob across networks for Zain & Orange ( I stand corrected on this) and not as high as SufferingCon's charges across networks ./Ok3ch On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Okech...
This is where I suspected the confusion will set in:
8.If I can't tell what network somebody is with from the number, how will discounts for calls on the same network operate (on-net calls)?
The providers will know who their customers are, so they can still offer the discounts, but callers won't necessarily know if the people they call have switched to a new provider. To avoid unexpected charges, mobile users should confirm with their friends and their associates that they are using the same mobile network. It is therefore generally always better to use the service of the largest network(Vodacom), with the most subscribers to enjoy the cheapest calls.
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Alot of what you are asking is answered here - http://www.cellucity.co.za/numberporting.htm
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What;s the experience in these countries? E.g. In SA, how much does it cost to have my number "ported" to another network? And how are the services transparent, if at all?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Number portability is working in many countries - for example SA - and all these are taken into account when CCK was doing the feasibility studies - We are not doing one here to answer this questions.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Responses from operators attached http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/published_responses.html Technically, I suspect its deployment to be painful.E.g. If i subscribe to Number portabilty, this means my NDC(0722) will remain the same across networks.This means a separate entity/Sub Db will be required to be queried for every call setup in the network(s) which has to be integrated to all operator billing systems. If I migrate to say orange, and use their network, obviously services will not vary.Its not clear how the transparent the tariff will be since a safcom subscriber calling me will expect to be charged as normal whereas I'm now technically on Orange network. What's the mechanism to be used to inform the caller that the dialed number is now on Orange and not safcom? Wouldn't that lead to confusion? Will there be delays in call setup time since now a separate core network node has been introduced? Are there successful(or not) case studies for us to understand these scenarios?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services.
And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
Regards
On 13/04/2010, skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke <skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send Skunkworks mailing list submissions to > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > skunkworks-owner@lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of Skunkworks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: FW: Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association > (John Ndambuki) > 2. Re: Is Number Portability finally here? (Jeff Macharia) > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:21:57 +0300 > From: John Ndambuki <johnmndambuki@gmail.com> > To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] FW: Kenya Software Testing Qualification > Association > Message-ID: > > <r2t72874ec61004130021zf9bde091pe1a2da4020f6f1d1@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > This is a step in the right direction - to ensure quality software > locally > and also create a software-testing resource pool which can > outsource > for > international jobs - but unfortunately the message comes late to > all > who > would have wanted to attend: > > *It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must > RSVP > via > a > response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.* > > > Kind Regards > > John > > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, John Matogo > <JMatogo@strathmore.edu> > wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> >> >> For your information, see the email below. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> John Matogo >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Roland Omoresemi [mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com] >> *Sent:* 30 March 2010 13:35 >> *To:* ; >> *Subject:* Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association >> >> >> >> You are receiving this invitation to attend a meeting on the >> evening >> of >> April 13th at 6:30 PM at the Jacaranda Hotel where some *IT* >> *like-minded*people will come together to discuss the formation >> of >> the >> very first Kenya >> Software Testing Qualification Association. >> >> >> >> The formation of this Association is the very first step in the >> creation >> of >> a Software Testing Qualification Board in Kenya that aligns with >> the >> world >> recognized "International Software Testing Qualification Board - >> ISTQB" >> - >> a >> board that has chapters in 44 countries with over 110,000 >> certified >> Software >> Testers worldwide. >> >> >> >> The purpose of this meeting is to: >> >> 1. Formally review the primary goals and objectives of the >> association >> (as >> stated below) >> >> 2. Receive membership commitment from attendees. *Please note >> that >> there's >> no membership fee to join this club as it is a VOLUNTEER-ONLY >> membership*. >> >> >> 3. Vote on interim official positions to be filled. >> >> >> >> *It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must >> RSVP >> via >> a >> response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.* >> >> >> >> *The primary goals of this association are as follows:* >> >> >> >> - To contribute to the recognition of software testing in Kenya >> as a >> professional activity performed by skilled, competent and >> certified >> individuals. >> >> - To incorporate software testing as a profession in the Kenyan >> context >> and >> to develop this scarce resource to be part of the IT delivery of >> skills >> and >> technology. >> >> - To harness the knowledge and skills of experienced software >> testing >> practitioners in the Kenyan IT market to the benefit of both the >> local >> and >> international software testing community. >> >> - To contribute to the deeper understanding of all facets of >> software >> testing, by participating in ISTQB working groups. >> >> - To provide skills development and certification for workers at >> all >> levels >> of IT industry, by linking future technology trends with ongoing >> certification. >> - To provide a means by which resources can be developed and >> aligned >> with >> future trends in the industry in order to ensure that >> professional >> services >> can be delivered to all domains requiring such skills. >> >> - To provide the Kenyan IT market with a common understanding of >> testing >> through the use of ISTQB's syllabus and certification process. >> - To highlight the importance of independent software testing and >> the >> benefits to be achieved by using generally accepted standards. >> - To provide Kenyan testing professionals access to >> internationally >> recognised experts in the software testing domain. >> >> - To contribute to Information and Communication Technology (ICT) >> training >> programs. >> >> - To provide an internationally recognized qualification. >> >> - To attract outsourcing to SA through alignment with >> international >> standards. >> >> - To ensure that quality training and certification are obtained >> and >> retained. >> >> - To have a standard to which all companies can relate and >> acquire >> quality >> certified resources. >> >> - To incorporate universities and technicons and to promote >> testing >> as >> a >> professional career in the industry. >> >> - To increase the number of Software testing resources available >> to >> meet >> market needs. >> >> - To retain resources as well as create software testing job >> opportunities >> within Kenya. >> >> - To attach a credible professional qualification to candidates >> and >> commensurate remuneration. >> >> - To supply a much needed, constant stream of skilled resources >> to >> the >> Kenyan market. >> >> - To align and manage all training courses according to ISTQB >> standards, >> inclusive of course substance. >> - To ensure compliance with ISTQB standards and guidelines. >> - To facilitate the certification of software testing >> professionals >> in >> Kenya in accordance with ISTQB standards. >> - To provide the Kenyan training institutions with accreditation >> to >> conduct >> courses using the ISTQB syllabi. >> - To be the management and control body for software test >> engineering >> education in Kenya. >> >> Please do not hesitate to write should you have questions or need >> clarity >> with regards to any of points mentioned in this email. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> Roland Omoresemi | *CEO* >> >> Tezza Business Solutions, >> >> 9530 Oswald lane >> >> Charlotte, NC 28277 >> >> 704.604.4668 >> >> roland@tezzasolutions.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> Strathmore University provides all-round education in an >> atmosphere >> of >> freedom and responsibility. >> This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely >> for >> use >> by >> the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain >> confidential >> information. If you have received this email in error please >> notify >> the >> sender immediately and permanently delete this email and/or any >> files >> attached to it from your computer. Please note that any views or >> opinions >> presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not >> necessarily represent those of Strathmore University. 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Given that CCK is planning to register SIM cards by July, is planning to remove/lower interconnection fees, and vendors are preparing for number portability (implementing Signalling transfer points e.t.c), I'd say there is a good chance it will happen. On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Very true, your concerns are real and will be a challenge - I think if the mobile companies are genuine then cross network charges can be much lower and next to standardized like the 8bob across networks for Zain & Orange ( I stand corrected on this) and not as high as SufferingCon's charges across networks
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Okech...
This is where I suspected the confusion will set in:
8.If I can't tell what network somebody is with from the number, how will discounts for calls on the same network operate (on-net calls)?
The providers will know who their customers are, so they can still offer the discounts, but callers won't necessarily know if the people they call have switched to a new provider. To avoid unexpected charges, mobile users should confirm with their friends and their associates that they are using the same mobile network. It is therefore generally always better to use the service of the largest network(Vodacom), with the most subscribers to enjoy the cheapest calls.
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Alot of what you are asking is answered here - http://www.cellucity.co.za/numberporting.htm
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What;s the experience in these countries? E.g. In SA, how much does it cost to have my number "ported" to another network? And how are the
services
transparent, if at all?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Number portability is working in many countries - for example SA -
and
all these are taken into account when CCK was doing the feasibility studies - We are not doing one here to answer this questions.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com
wrote:
Responses from operators attached http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/published_responses.html Technically, I suspect its deployment to be painful.E.g. If i subscribe to Number portabilty, this means my NDC(0722) will remain the same across networks.This means a separate entity/Sub Db will be required to be queried for every call setup in the network(s) which has to be integrated to all operator billing systems. If I migrate to say orange, and use their network, obviously services will not vary.Its not clear how the transparent the tariff will be since a safcom subscriber calling me will expect to be charged as normal whereas I'm now technically on Orange network. What's the mechanism to be used to inform the caller that the dialed number is now on Orange and not safcom? Wouldn't that lead to confusion? Will there be delays in call setup time since now a separate core network node has been introduced? Are there successful(or not) case studies for us to understand these scenarios?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote: > > I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, > or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war. > > There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in > terms > of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber > services. > > And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, > how > will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you > Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network > > Regards > > On 13/04/2010, skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke > <skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > > Send Skunkworks mailing list submissions to > > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > skunkworks-owner@lists.my.co.ke > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > > specific > > than "Re: Contents of Skunkworks digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: FW: Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association > > (John Ndambuki) > > 2. Re: Is Number Portability finally here? (Jeff Macharia) > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:21:57 +0300 > > From: John Ndambuki <johnmndambuki@gmail.com> > > To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] FW: Kenya Software Testing Qualification > > Association > > Message-ID: > > > > <r2t72874ec61004130021zf9bde091pe1a2da4020f6f1d1@mail.gmail.com
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > > This is a step in the right direction - to ensure quality software > > locally > > and also create a software-testing resource pool which can > > outsource > > for > > international jobs - but unfortunately the message comes late to > > all > > who > > would have wanted to attend: > > > > *It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must > > RSVP > > via > > a > > response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.* > > > > > > Kind Regards > > > > John > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, John Matogo > > <JMatogo@strathmore.edu> > > wrote: > > > >> Dear colleagues, > >> > >> > >> > >> For your information, see the email below. > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> John Matogo > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> *From:* Roland Omoresemi [mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com] > >> *Sent:* 30 March 2010 13:35 > >> *To:* ; > >> *Subject:* Kenya Software Testing Qualification Association > >> > >> > >> > >> You are receiving this invitation to attend a meeting on the > >> evening > >> of > >> April 13th at 6:30 PM at the Jacaranda Hotel where some *IT* > >> *like-minded*people will come together to discuss the formation > >> of > >> the > >> very first Kenya > >> Software Testing Qualification Association. > >> > >> > >> > >> The formation of this Association is the very first step in the > >> creation > >> of > >> a Software Testing Qualification Board in Kenya that aligns with > >> the > >> world > >> recognized "International Software Testing Qualification Board
> >> ISTQB" > >> - > >> a > >> board that has chapters in 44 countries with over 110,000 > >> certified > >> Software > >> Testers worldwide. > >> > >> > >> > >> The purpose of this meeting is to: > >> > >> 1. Formally review the primary goals and objectives of the > >> association > >> (as > >> stated below) > >> > >> 2. Receive membership commitment from attendees. *Please note > >> that > >> there's > >> no membership fee to join this club as it is a VOLUNTEER-ONLY > >> membership*. > >> > >> > >> 3. Vote on interim official positions to be filled. > >> > >> > >> > >> *It is okay to forward this email BUT all those attending must > >> RSVP > >> via > >> a > >> response to this email no later than April 8th, 2010.* > >> > >> > >> > >> *The primary goals of this association are as follows:* > >> > >> > >> > >> - To contribute to the recognition of software testing in Kenya > >> as a > >> professional activity performed by skilled, competent and > >> certified > >> individuals. > >> > >> - To incorporate software testing as a profession in the Kenyan > >> context > >> and > >> to develop this scarce resource to be part of the IT delivery of > >> skills > >> and > >> technology. > >> > >> - To harness the knowledge and skills of experienced software > >> testing > >> practitioners in the Kenyan IT market to the benefit of both the > >> local > >> and > >> international software testing community. > >> > >> - To contribute to the deeper understanding of all facets of > >> software > >> testing, by participating in ISTQB working groups. > >> > >> - To provide skills development and certification for workers at > >> all > >> levels > >> of IT industry, by linking future technology trends with ongoing > >> certification. > >> - To provide a means by which resources can be developed and > >> aligned > >> with > >> future trends in the industry in order to ensure that > >> professional > >> services > >> can be delivered to all domains requiring such skills. > >> > >> - To provide the Kenyan IT market with a common understanding of > >> testing > >> through the use of ISTQB's syllabus and certification process. > >> - To highlight the importance of independent software testing and > >> the > >> benefits to be achieved by using generally accepted standards. > >> - To provide Kenyan testing professionals access to > >> internationally > >> recognised experts in the software testing domain. > >> > >> - To contribute to Information and Communication Technology (ICT) > >> training > >> programs. > >> > >> - To provide an internationally recognized qualification. > >> > >> - To attract outsourcing to SA through alignment with > >> international > >> standards. > >> > >> - To ensure that quality training and certification are obtained > >> and > >> retained. > >> > >> - To have a standard to which all companies can relate and > >> acquire > >> quality > >> certified resources. > >> > >> - To incorporate universities and technicons and to promote > >> testing > >> as > >> a > >> professional career in the industry. > >> > >> - To increase the number of Software testing resources available > >> to > >> meet > >> market needs. > >> > >> - To retain resources as well as create software testing job > >> opportunities > >> within Kenya. > >> > >> - To attach a credible professional qualification to candidates > >> and > >> commensurate remuneration. > >> > >> - To supply a much needed, constant stream of skilled resources > >> to > >> the > >> Kenyan market. > >> > >> - To align and manage all training courses according to ISTQB > >> standards, > >> inclusive of course substance. > >> - To ensure compliance with ISTQB standards and guidelines. > >> - To facilitate the certification of software testing > >> professionals > >> in > >> Kenya in accordance with ISTQB standards. > >> - To provide the Kenyan training institutions with accreditation > >> to > >> conduct > >> courses using the ISTQB syllabi. > >> - To be the management and control body for software test > >> engineering > >> education in Kenya. > >> > >> Please do not hesitate to write should you have questions or need > >> clarity > >> with regards to any of points mentioned in this email. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> > >> > >> Roland Omoresemi | *CEO* > >> > >> Tezza Business Solutions, > >> > >> 9530 Oswald lane > >> > >> Charlotte, NC 28277 > >> > >> 704.604.4668 > >> > >> roland@tezzasolutions.com > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> Strathmore University provides all-round education in an > >> atmosphere > >> of > >> freedom and responsibility. > >> This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely > >> for > >> use > >> by > >> the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain > >> confidential > >> information. If you have received this email in error please > >> notify > >> the > >> sender immediately and permanently delete this email and/or any > >> files > >> attached to it from your computer. Please note that any views or > >> opinions > >> presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not > >> necessarily represent those of Strathmore University. 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On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services.
And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
Regards
Let me try to think outside the box here; Why do I have to buy credit for a certain provider? Why can't I just buy credit and use it from whichever provider? I buy credo ya 100, put in my orange sim card and call a landline, then swap sim card to zain and browse kiasi the put in my safcom sim card and pay for elec. You can probably guess my next question; why ain't there a universal sim card?
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services.
And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
Regards
Let me try to think outside the box here; Why do I have to buy credit for a certain provider? Why can't I just buy credit and use it from whichever provider? I buy credo ya 100, put in my orange sim card and call a landline, then swap sim card to zain and browse kiasi the put in my safcom sim card and pay for elec.
You can probably guess my next question; why ain't there a universal sim card?
Yeah, and "universal credit", perhaps:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
@Wash, Yes! Credit is just money, and money is universal. So whats so difficult in me giving some entity KShs. 100 to allow me to spend that money from/to whichever network? @Tony, Universal ATM card? If you can write a cheque from one bank to another, that means the banks have the systems to settle within themselves, thus, the same systems can be modified to allow me use my ATM card from any bank. I think this thread is deviating from the original purpose, maybe we can explore this hypothetical argument in another thread?
Visa? _____ From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Peter Karunyu Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:32 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Is number portability finally here? @Wash, Yes! Credit is just money, and money is universal. So whats so difficult in me giving some entity KShs. 100 to allow me to spend that money from/to whichever network? @Tony, Universal ATM card? If you can write a cheque from one bank to another, that means the banks have the systems to settle within themselves, thus, the same systems can be modified to allow me use my ATM card from any bank. I think this thread is deviating from the original purpose, maybe we can explore this hypothetical argument in another thread? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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