What;s the experience in these countries? E.g. In SA, how much does it cost to have my number "ported" to another network? And how are the services transparent, if at all?

./bernard

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Number portability is working in many countries - for example SA - and
all these are taken into account when CCK was doing the feasibility
studies - We are not doing one here to answer this questions.

./Ok3ch

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
> Responses from operators attached
> http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/published_responses.html
> Technically, I suspect its deployment to be painful.E.g. If i subscribe to
> Number portabilty, this means my NDC(0722) will remain the same across
> networks.This means a separate entity/Sub Db will be required to be queried
> for every call setup in the network(s) which has to be integrated to all
> operator billing systems. If I migrate to say orange, and use their network,
> obviously services will not vary.Its not clear how the transparent the
> tariff will be since a safcom subscriber calling me will expect to be
> charged as normal whereas I'm now technically on Orange network. What's the
> mechanism to be used to inform the caller that the dialed number is now on
> Orange and not safcom? Wouldn't that lead to confusion? Will there be delays
> in call setup time since now a separate core network node has been
> introduced?
> Are there successful(or not) case studies for us to understand these
> scenarios?
>
> ./bernard
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain,
>> or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
>>
>> There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms
>> of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber
>> services.
>>
>> And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how
>> will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you
>> Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
>>
>> Regards
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>> > CCK as the market regulator has the responsibility of setting
>> > the minimum porting charge, if any.
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>> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:11 AM, John Ndambuki
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>> >>
>> >> Thanks Tony - this is welcome news indeed :)
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to hear the responses from the operators...
>> >>
>> >> Regarding the porting charges - it will be acceptable if they keep it
>> >> at a
>> >> low value but I'm not sure what the operators will feel about this
>> >> especially Safaricom... On the other hand, I think the other operators
>> >> will
>> >> be happy to keep the charges @ a basic minimum (they might even push
>> >> for
>> >> the
>> >> charges to be dropped altogether) since it is to their benefit...
>> >>
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>> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Tony Likhanga
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>> >>> Is the talk-shop now over? I can't wait to experience the proof of how
>> >>> peculiar we can get.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.cellular-news.com/story/42797.php?s=h
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