IDEOS really taking it to the masses

Some time back one of the workers at home was telling me how cool the ideos is- from a friend of his. Interesting the buzz has got to him yet he doesn't so much as use a comp let alone the net. In another incident a couple of weeks back my bro went to buy one in Thika and if told me that 22 had moved that morning- wonder how fast it is in nai just goes to show how safcom are now taking another technology to the masses... Hate them or love them they've given a 'gateway drug' for the smartphone market in Kenya...

I bought a 2nd IDEOS for my boss in Nairobi 2 weeks ago at the Sarit Safaricom shop - the guy selling told me that they are moving between 60-100 per day - and they only had pink ones! LoL! Brian On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> wrote:
Some time back one of the workers at home was telling me how cool the ideos is- from a friend of his. Interesting the buzz has got to him yet he doesn't so much as use a comp let alone the net.
In another incident a couple of weeks back my bro went to buy one in Thika and if told me that 22 had moved that morning- wonder how fast it is in nai
just goes to show how safcom are now taking another technology to the masses... Hate them or love them they've given a 'gateway drug' for the smartphone market in Kenya... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Seems like a good strategy for Safaricom. The key is not to move hardware, but create an ecosystem where owners or (addicts) of the now famous Ideos become huge consumers of data. I am sure they may be selling the phone at a subsidized cost but considering how these smartphones move data, soon their data sales may exceed voice. I hope other players will not come back a few years from now and want to share the Safaricom Ideos ecosystem.

It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems like a good strategy for Safaricom. The key is not to move hardware, but create an ecosystem where owners or (addicts) of the now famous Ideos become huge consumers of data. I am sure they may be selling the phone at a subsidized cost but considering how these smartphones move data, soon their data sales may exceed voice.
I hope other players will not come back a few years from now and want to share the Safaricom Ideos ecosystem.
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@simon, any specifics on the problems besetting the idiot? was just about to head out get one for myself... :-( On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote:
It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems like a good strategy for Safaricom. The key is not to move hardware, but create an ecosystem where owners or (addicts) of the now famous Ideos become huge consumers of data. I am sure they may be selling the phone at a subsidized cost but considering how these smartphones move data, soon their data sales may exceed voice.
I hope other players will not come back a few years from now and want to share the Safaricom Ideos ecosystem.
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@ Simon....ive also heard of 4 cases now...... all hardware !!! On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
@simon, any specifics on the problems besetting the idiot? was just about to head out get one for myself... :-(
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>wrote:
It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Seems like a good strategy for Safaricom. The key is not to move hardware, but create an ecosystem where owners or (addicts) of the now famous Ideos become huge consumers of data. I am sure they may be selling the phone at a subsidized cost but considering how these smartphones move data, soon their data sales may exceed voice.
I hope other players will not come back a few years from now and want to share the Safaricom Ideos ecosystem.
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Hey Alvin, I've had an IDEOS since when they were launched. Not had a problem on it. Bought a screen cover + case. Finally this weekend installed Skype from the market and been calling people with it from Java free wireless. Installed BatteryBooster to manage my battery life. Now lasts atleast 2 hours longer. Installed 3GWatchdog to manage my #544 25mb daily limit. Installed Aldiko to read my ebooks from ProjectGutenburg and converted ones using Calibre. Installed GTunes to download music. Installed SoundHound to identify songs playing on the radio, club or matatu. Installed Barcode for QRcodes Installed EsFileExplorer to manage files on my IDEOS And all for $100 .... best $100 dollars I ever spent!! -----Original Message----- From: Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> Reply-to: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] IDEOS really taking it to the masses Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:58:14 +0300 @ Simon....ive also heard of 4 cases now...... all hardware !!! On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: @simon, any specifics on the problems besetting the idiot? was just about to head out get one for myself... :-( On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: Seems like a good strategy for Safaricom. The key is not to move hardware, but create an ecosystem where owners or (addicts) of the now famous Ideos become huge consumers of data. I am sure they may be selling the phone at a subsidized cost but considering how these smartphones move data, soon their data sales may exceed voice. I hope other players will not come back a few years from now and want to share the Safaricom Ideos ecosystem. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- “The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy” ~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696 _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Regards, Joe Murithi Njeru LPI Certified Professional (www.lpi.org) Linux User: #361092 SIP: joe.njeru@ekiga.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/joenjeru Blog: http://www.joenjeru.com

and you expect the masses to one day wake up to a eureka moment and know how and where to install these apps without a skunk talking about them? On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Joe Murithi Njeru <joe.njeru@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey Alvin,
I've had an IDEOS since when they were launched.
Not had a problem on it. Bought a screen cover + case.
Finally this weekend installed Skype from the market and been calling people with it from Java free wireless.
Installed BatteryBooster to manage my battery life. Now lasts atleast 2 hours longer.
Installed 3GWatchdog to manage my #544 25mb daily limit.
Installed Aldiko to read my ebooks from ProjectGutenburg and converted ones using Calibre.
Installed GTunes to download music.
Installed SoundHound to identify songs playing on the radio, club or matatu.
Installed Barcode for QRcodes
Installed EsFileExplorer to manage files on my IDEOS
And all for $100 .... best $100 dollars I ever spent!!
-----Original Message----- From: Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> Reply-to: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] IDEOS really taking it to the masses Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:58:14 +0300
@ Simon....ive also heard of 4 cases now...... all hardware !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: @simon, any specifics on the problems besetting the idiot? was just about to head out get one for myself... :-(
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems like a good strategy for Safaricom. The key is not to move hardware, but create an ecosystem where owners or (addicts) of the now famous Ideos become huge consumers of data. I am sure they may be selling the phone at a subsidized cost but considering how these smartphones move data, soon their data sales may exceed voice.
I hope other players will not come back a few years from now and want to share the Safaricom Ideos ecosystem.
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@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol.. @ Joe ...get some inside info on h/ware failures on these handsets reportes so far :-( @Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!! I agree the apps the masses need help !! On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:30 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
and you expect the masses to one day wake up to a eureka moment and know how and where to install these apps without a skunk talking about them?
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Joe Murithi Njeru <joe.njeru@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey Alvin,
I've had an IDEOS since when they were launched.
Not had a problem on it. Bought a screen cover + case.
Finally this weekend installed Skype from the market and been calling people with it from Java free wireless.
Installed BatteryBooster to manage my battery life. Now lasts atleast 2 hours longer.
Installed 3GWatchdog to manage my #544 25mb daily limit.
Installed Aldiko to read my ebooks from ProjectGutenburg and converted ones using Calibre.
Installed GTunes to download music.
Installed SoundHound to identify songs playing on the radio, club or matatu.
Installed Barcode for QRcodes
Installed EsFileExplorer to manage files on my IDEOS
And all for $100 .... best $100 dollars I ever spent!!
-----Original Message----- From: Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> Reply-to: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] IDEOS really taking it to the masses Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:58:14 +0300
@ Simon....ive also heard of 4 cases now...... all hardware !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: @simon, any specifics on the problems besetting the idiot? was just about to head out get one for myself... :-(
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems like a good strategy for Safaricom. The key is not to move hardware, but create an ecosystem where owners or (addicts) of the now famous Ideos become huge consumers of data. I am sure they may be selling the phone at a subsidized cost but considering how these smartphones move data, soon their data sales may exceed voice.
I hope other players will not come back a few years from now and want to share the Safaricom Ideos ecosystem.
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~ Alex Carey ~
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Hello Brainiac, You can take a cow to the river but you can't make it drink water. Accessibility is the first step. Second comes discovery / education / knowledge. The fact that this is available is a huge step. The next depends on what an individuals/organisations motives are. Question is whose responsibility is it to educate the masses on these uses? You? Skunkworks? Govt? Safaricom? Google? Themselves? -----Original Message----- From: [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> To: joe.njeru@gmail.com, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] IDEOS really taking it to the masses Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:30:59 +0300 and you expect the masses to one day wake up to a eureka moment and know how and where to install these apps without a skunk talking about them? On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Joe Murithi Njeru <joe.njeru@gmail.com> wrote: Hey Alvin, I've had an IDEOS since when they were launched. Not had a problem on it. Bought a screen cover + case. Finally this weekend installed Skype from the market and been calling people with it from Java free wireless. Installed BatteryBooster to manage my battery life. Now lasts atleast 2 hours longer. Installed 3GWatchdog to manage my #544 25mb daily limit. Installed Aldiko to read my ebooks from ProjectGutenburg and converted ones using Calibre. Installed GTunes to download music. Installed SoundHound to identify songs playing on the radio, club or matatu. Installed Barcode for QRcodes Installed EsFileExplorer to manage files on my IDEOS And all for $100 .... best $100 dollars I ever spent!! -----Original Message----- From: Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> Reply-to: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] IDEOS really taking it to the masses Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:58:14 +0300 @ Simon....ive also heard of 4 cases now...... all hardware !!! On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: @simon, any specifics on the problems besetting the idiot? was just about to head out get one for myself... :-( On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: Seems like a good strategy for Safaricom. The key is not to move hardware, but create an ecosystem where owners or (addicts) of the now famous Ideos become huge consumers of data. I am sure they may be selling the phone at a subsidized cost but considering how these smartphones move data, soon their data sales may exceed voice. I hope other players will not come back a few years from now and want to share the Safaricom Ideos ecosystem. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- “The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy” ~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696 _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Regards, Joe Murithi Njeru LPI Certified Professional (www.lpi.org) Linux User: #361092 SIP: joe.njeru@ekiga.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/joenjeru Blog: http://www.joenjeru.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- “The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy” ~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696 -- Regards, Joe Murithi Njeru LPI Certified Professional (www.lpi.org) Linux User: #361092 SIP: joe.njeru@ekiga.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/joenjeru Blog: http://www.joenjeru.com

Joe, you doing PR for this phone? On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Joe Murithi Njeru <joe.njeru@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey Alvin,
I've had an IDEOS since when they were launched.
Not had a problem on it. Bought a screen cover + case.
Finally this weekend installed Skype from the market and been calling people with it from Java free wireless.
Installed BatteryBooster to manage my battery life. Now lasts atleast 2 hours longer.
Installed 3GWatchdog to manage my #544 25mb daily limit.
Installed Aldiko to read my ebooks from ProjectGutenburg and converted ones using Calibre.
Installed GTunes to download music.
Installed SoundHound to identify songs playing on the radio, club or matatu.
Installed Barcode for QRcodes
Installed EsFileExplorer to manage files on my IDEOS
And all for $100 .... best $100 dollars I ever spent!!
-----Original Message----- From: Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> Reply-to: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] IDEOS really taking it to the masses Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:58:14 +0300
@ Simon....ive also heard of 4 cases now...... all hardware !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: @simon, any specifics on the problems besetting the idiot? was just about to head out get one for myself... :-(
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems like a good strategy for Safaricom. The key is not to move hardware, but create an ecosystem where owners or (addicts) of the now famous Ideos become huge consumers of data. I am sure they may be selling the phone at a subsidized cost but considering how these smartphones move data, soon their data sales may exceed voice.
I hope other players will not come back a few years from now and want to share the Safaricom Ideos ecosystem.
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A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. http://goo.gl/qbaKD I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes down to maybe 5K. Alex On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote:
Joe,
you doing PR for this phone?
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Joe Murithi Njeru <joe.njeru@gmail.com <mailto:joe.njeru@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey Alvin,
I've had an IDEOS since when they were launched.
Not had a problem on it. Bought a screen cover + case.
Finally this weekend installed Skype from the market and been calling people with it from Java free wireless.
Installed BatteryBooster to manage my battery life. Now lasts atleast 2 hours longer.
Installed 3GWatchdog to manage my #544 25mb daily limit.
Installed Aldiko to read my ebooks from ProjectGutenburg and converted ones using Calibre.
Installed GTunes to download music.
Installed SoundHound to identify songs playing on the radio, club or matatu.
Installed Barcode for QRcodes
Installed EsFileExplorer to manage files on my IDEOS
And all for $100 .... best $100 dollars I ever spent!!
-----Original Message----- From: Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com <mailto:ajochola@gmail.com>> Reply-to: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] IDEOS really taking it to the masses Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:58:14 +0300
@ Simon....ive also heard of 4 cases now...... all hardware !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com <mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com>> wrote: @simon, any specifics on the problems besetting the idiot? was just about to head out get one for myself... :-(
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com <mailto:swainaina@gmail.com>> wrote: It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com <mailto:pmusyoki@gmail.com>> wrote:
Seems like a good strategy for Safaricom. The key is not to move hardware, but create an ecosystem where owners or (addicts) of the now famous Ideos become huge consumers of data. I am sure they may be selling the phone at a subsidized cost but considering how these smartphones move data, soon their data sales may exceed voice.
I hope other players will not come back a few years from now and want to share the Safaricom Ideos ecosystem.
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Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't get online apart from on Sfc. Peter On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye <akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug>wrote:
A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. http://goo.gl/qbaKD I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes down to maybe 5K.
Alex
On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote:
Joe,
you doing PR for this phone?

General issue with Airtel/Zain - you must manually set your APN as ke.celtel.com ./Ok3ch On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't get online apart from on Sfc. Peter
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye <akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug> wrote:
A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. http://goo.gl/qbaKD I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes down to maybe 5K.
Alex On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote:
Joe,
you doing PR for this phone?
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1. Go to: Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Access Point Names 2. Create new APN 3. Name: Airtel APN: ke.celtel.com Port: 8080 4. leave the rest as is and save 2011/3/29 Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't get online apart from on Sfc.
Peter
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye <akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug>wrote:
A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. http://goo.gl/qbaKD I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes down to maybe 5K.
Alex
On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote:
Joe,
you doing PR for this phone?
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@gichigiri how are data rates on airtel? this thing is a real data guzzler, hence even my desire to port to orange or something with decent-ish data at a flat monthly rate... On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
1. Go to: Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Access Point Names 2. Create new APN 3. Name: Airtel APN: ke.celtel.com Port: 8080 4. leave the rest as is and save
2011/3/29 Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't get online apart from on Sfc.
Peter
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye <akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug>wrote:
A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. http://goo.gl/qbaKD I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes down to maybe 5K.
Alex
On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote:
Joe,
you doing PR for this phone?
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I don't know what the data costs are, I just know that it's slow. I just got myself the ideos so I'll find out when this month's bill comes in. Previously, with very limited data use (only checking mail and urgent replies) on Nokia e61 monthly data costs were under sh. 50. Now with the ideos - twitter, facebook, news, etc, I expect higher costs. BUT, Airtel internet is very slow. 2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
@gichigiri how are data rates on airtel? this thing is a real data guzzler, hence even my desire to port to orange or something with decent-ish data at a flat monthly rate...
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
1. Go to: Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Access Point Names 2. Create new APN 3. Name: Airtel APN: ke.celtel.com Port: 8080 4. leave the rest as is and save
2011/3/29 Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't get online apart from on Sfc.
Peter
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye <akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug>wrote:
A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. http://goo.gl/qbaKD I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes down to maybe 5K.
Alex
On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote:
Joe,
you doing PR for this phone?
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Send SMS to 232 for airtel internet settings. On 29 March 2011 13:42, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
I don't know what the data costs are, I just know that it's slow. I just got myself the ideos so I'll find out when this month's bill comes in.
Previously, with very limited data use (only checking mail and urgent replies) on Nokia e61 monthly data costs were under sh. 50. Now with the ideos - twitter, facebook, news, etc, I expect higher costs.
BUT, Airtel internet is very slow.
2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
@gichigiri how are data rates on airtel? this thing is a real data guzzler, hence even my desire to port to orange or something with decent-ish data at a flat monthly rate...
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
1. Go to: Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Access Point Names 2. Create new APN 3. Name: Airtel APN: ke.celtel.com Port: 8080 4. leave the rest as is and save
2011/3/29 Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't get online apart from on Sfc.
Peter
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye <akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug>wrote:
A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. http://goo.gl/qbaKD I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes down to maybe 5K.
Alex
On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote:
Joe,
you doing PR for this phone?
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~ Alex Carey ~
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The sms thing didn't work for me with the ideos. Many calls to customer care didn't either. A visit to one of their shops informed me that settings can't be sent to this phone, need to be keyed in. 2011/3/29 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com>
Send SMS to 232 for airtel internet settings.
On 29 March 2011 13:42, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
I don't know what the data costs are, I just know that it's slow. I just got myself the ideos so I'll find out when this month's bill comes in.
Previously, with very limited data use (only checking mail and urgent replies) on Nokia e61 monthly data costs were under sh. 50. Now with the ideos - twitter, facebook, news, etc, I expect higher costs.
BUT, Airtel internet is very slow.
2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
@gichigiri how are data rates on airtel? this thing is a real data guzzler, hence even my desire to port to orange or something with decent-ish data at a flat monthly rate...
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
1. Go to: Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Access Point Names 2. Create new APN 3. Name: Airtel APN: ke.celtel.com Port: 8080 4. leave the rest as is and save
2011/3/29 Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't get online apart from on Sfc.
Peter
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye <akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug>wrote:
A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. http://goo.gl/qbaKD I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes down to maybe 5K.
Alex
On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote:
Joe,
you doing PR for this phone?
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~ Alex Carey ~
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yeah, figured as much... if only the IDEOS could take CDMA....... On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
I don't know what the data costs are, I just know that it's slow. I just got myself the ideos so I'll find out when this month's bill comes in.
Previously, with very limited data use (only checking mail and urgent replies) on Nokia e61 monthly data costs were under sh. 50. Now with the ideos - twitter, facebook, news, etc, I expect higher costs.
BUT, Airtel internet is very slow.
2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
@gichigiri how are data rates on airtel? this thing is a real data guzzler, hence even my desire to port to orange or something with decent-ish data at a flat monthly rate...
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
1. Go to: Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Access Point Names 2. Create new APN 3. Name: Airtel APN: ke.celtel.com Port: 8080 4. leave the rest as is and save
2011/3/29 Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't get online apart from on Sfc.
Peter
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye <akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug>wrote:
A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. http://goo.gl/qbaKD I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes down to maybe 5K.
Alex
On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote:
Joe,
you doing PR for this phone?
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~ Alex Carey ~
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A claim of 2,000 idei sold per day - http://www.kenyandroid.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=149 2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
yeah, figured as much...
if only the IDEOS could take CDMA.......
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
I don't know what the data costs are, I just know that it's slow. I just got myself the ideos so I'll find out when this month's bill comes in.
Previously, with very limited data use (only checking mail and urgent replies) on Nokia e61 monthly data costs were under sh. 50. Now with the ideos - twitter, facebook, news, etc, I expect higher costs.
BUT, Airtel internet is very slow.
2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
@gichigiri how are data rates on airtel? this thing is a real data guzzler, hence even my desire to port to orange or something with decent-ish data at a flat monthly rate...
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
1. Go to: Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Access Point Names 2. Create new APN 3. Name: Airtel APN: ke.celtel.com Port: 8080 4. leave the rest as is and save
2011/3/29 Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't get online apart from on Sfc.
Peter
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye <akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug>wrote:
A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. http://goo.gl/qbaKD I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes down to maybe 5K.
Alex
On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote:
Joe,
you doing PR for this phone?
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-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
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-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
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-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
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-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
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-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke

interesting website. Do all Kenyan websites have to run joomla? On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
A claim of 2,000 idei sold per day - http://www.kenyandroid.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=149
2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
yeah, figured as much...
if only the IDEOS could take CDMA.......
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
I don't know what the data costs are, I just know that it's slow. I just got myself the ideos so I'll find out when this month's bill comes in.
Previously, with very limited data use (only checking mail and urgent replies) on Nokia e61 monthly data costs were under sh. 50. Now with the ideos - twitter, facebook, news, etc, I expect higher costs.
BUT, Airtel internet is very slow.
2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
@gichigiri how are data rates on airtel? this thing is a real data guzzler, hence even my desire to port to orange or something with decent-ish data at a flat monthly rate...
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com
wrote:
Access Point Names
1. Go to: Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks 2. Create new APN 3. Name: Airtel APN: ke.celtel.com Port: 8080 4. leave the rest as is and save
2011/3/29 Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't get online apart from on Sfc.
Peter
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye <akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug > wrote:
> A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. http://goo.gl/qbaKD > I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. > otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes > down to maybe 5K. > > Alex > > On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote: > > Joe, > > you doing PR for this phone? > > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”* ~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696

why is joomla attacked this much on the forum? thought there was free will and choice? On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
interesting website. Do all Kenyan websites have to run joomla?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
A claim of 2,000 idei sold per day - http://www.kenyandroid.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=149
2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
yeah, figured as much...
if only the IDEOS could take CDMA.......
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
I don't know what the data costs are, I just know that it's slow. I just got myself the ideos so I'll find out when this month's bill comes in.
Previously, with very limited data use (only checking mail and urgent replies) on Nokia e61 monthly data costs were under sh. 50. Now with the ideos - twitter, facebook, news, etc, I expect higher costs.
BUT, Airtel internet is very slow.
2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
@gichigiri how are data rates on airtel? this thing is a real data guzzler, hence even my desire to port to orange or something with decent-ish data at a flat monthly rate...
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Gichingiri Kuria < gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
1. Go to: Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Access Point Names 2. Create new APN 3. Name: Airtel APN: ke.celtel.com Port: 8080 4. leave the rest as is and save
2011/3/29 Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
> Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the > idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't > get online apart from on Sfc. > > Peter > > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye < > akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug> wrote: > >> A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. >> http://goo.gl/qbaKD >> I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. >> otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes >> down to maybe 5K. >> >> Alex >> >> On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote: >> >> Joe, >> >> you doing PR for this phone? >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
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-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.posterous.com Skype : mark.mwangy

@mark... Nothing against joomla, in fact, from the days of rhuk_solarflare ive used Mambo/joomla, it seems though long gone are the days of creativity. Someone should set up a policing agency for these scriptmafia templates, i bet with the laws in operation one will make a killing... its all but killed our creativity.. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
why is joomla attacked this much on the forum? thought there was free will and choice?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
interesting website. Do all Kenyan websites have to run joomla?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
A claim of 2,000 idei sold per day - http://www.kenyandroid.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=149
2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
yeah, figured as much...
if only the IDEOS could take CDMA.......
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com
wrote:
I don't know what the data costs are, I just know that it's slow. I just got myself the ideos so I'll find out when this month's bill comes in.
Previously, with very limited data use (only checking mail and urgent replies) on Nokia e61 monthly data costs were under sh. 50. Now with the ideos - twitter, facebook, news, etc, I expect higher costs.
BUT, Airtel internet is very slow.
2011/3/29 Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>
@gichigiri how are data rates on airtel? this thing is a real data guzzler, hence even my desire to port to orange or something with decent-ish data at a flat monthly rate...
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Gichingiri Kuria < gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
> > 1. Go to: Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile > networks > Access Point Names > 2. Create new APN > 3. Name: Airtel > APN: ke.celtel.com > Port: 8080 > 4. leave the rest as is and save > > > > 2011/3/29 Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> > >> Anyone, Internet settings for the idiot on Airtel? Try as I can, the >> idiot is just clueless on what to do with Airtel's internet settings. Can't >> get online apart from on Sfc. >> >> Peter >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Alex Kisakye < >> akisakye@ucs.ucu.ac.ug> wrote: >> >>> A friend just pointed me to this phone on ebay. >>> http://goo.gl/qbaKD >>> I think catch must be the extremely high shipping cost. >>> otherwise if someone is up to a local pick up then the cost comes >>> down to maybe 5K. >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> On 3/15/2011 10:16 AM, Robert Kuria wrote: >>> >>> Joe, >>> >>> you doing PR for this phone? >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Gichingiri Kuria > _________________________________________ > www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
Skype : mark.mwangy
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-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”* ~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote:
It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios is for the masses:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

Wash I agree :-)) On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote:
It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios is for the masses:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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i beg to disagree, it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, the developers can understand the market. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
Wash I agree :-))
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>
wrote:
It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who
have
purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios is for the masses:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here -- On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
i beg to disagree, it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, the developers can understand the market.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
Wash I agree :-))
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>
wrote:
It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who
have
purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios is for the masses:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
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@ Braniac / Gisho How are developers concerned with hardware Problems? These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so far hidden it well :-) On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here
--
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
i beg to disagree, it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, the developers can understand the market.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
Wash I agree :-))
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>
wrote:
It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who
have
purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios is for the masses:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
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@alvin, if the reason for the ideos being for the masses is the hardware issues, are you implying we are more special, and the masses are not so as to deserve "defective" hardware? On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Braniac / Gisho
How are developers concerned with hardware Problems?
These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so far hidden it well :-)
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here
--
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
i beg to disagree, it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, the developers can understand the market.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com
wrote:
Wash I agree :-))
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>
wrote:
It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who
have
purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios is for the masses:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed. -- -erastus +254733725373 Nairobi Kenya On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Braniac / Gisho
How are developers concerned with hardware Problems?
These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so far hidden it well :-)
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here
--
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
i beg to disagree, it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, the developers can understand the market.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com
wrote:
Wash I agree :-))
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>
wrote:
It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who
have
purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios is for the masses:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol.. @Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!! On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed.
-- -erastus +254733725373 Nairobi Kenya
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Braniac / Gisho
How are developers concerned with hardware Problems?
These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so far hidden it well :-)
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here
--
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
i beg to disagree, it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, the developers can understand the market.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Wash I agree :-))
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have > purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure >
Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios is for the masses:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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To me, the IDEOS represents something big, it is the inflection point where mobile is going the desktop PC way where hardware is a standard, and Android representes windows in its early days, only that its chosen to do it the linux way. The role we should play is encourage these cheap handsets by offering value and all. my 2cnts. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed.
-- -erastus +254733725373 Nairobi Kenya
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Braniac / Gisho
How are developers concerned with hardware Problems?
These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so far hidden it well :-)
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here
--
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
i beg to disagree, it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, the developers can understand the market.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Wash I agree :-))
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure >> > > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios > is for the masses:-) > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Damn!! > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints. On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed.
-- -erastus +254733725373 Nairobi Kenya
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Braniac / Gisho
How are developers concerned with hardware Problems?
These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so far hidden it well :-)
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here
--
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
i beg to disagree, it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, the developers can understand the market.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Wash I agree :-))
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who have >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure >> > > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios > is for the masses:-) > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Damn!! > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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If you bought the phone, I bet your having fun. But thats what you get when u buy something cheap. HTC Desire Z On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed.
-- -erastus +254733725373 Nairobi Kenya
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com
wrote:
@ Braniac / Gisho
How are developers concerned with hardware Problems?
These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so far hidden it well :-)
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here
--
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
i beg to disagree, it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, the developers can understand the market.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wash I agree :-)) > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < > odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends > who have > >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure > >> > > > > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better > fone! Indios > > is for the masses:-) > > -- > > Best regards, > > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > > Nairobi,KE > > +254733744121/+254722743223 > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > Damn!! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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FACT: No phone camera is that good, cause quality of image is as good as the ccd. If you want snappy images, look for the D3 for instance and then buy a nokia 1100 for sms and calls. That said, what a phone seeks to achieve is a balance of all, a family photo, a video of your stupid cousin drunk driving, mp3 on the road ...e.t.c .e.t.c which means buying an expensive phone that is really a jack of all trades is bad investment... IDEOS IDIOT! On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
If you bought the phone, I bet your having fun. But thats what you get when u buy something cheap. HTC Desire Z
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed.
-- -erastus +254733725373 Nairobi Kenya
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Braniac / Gisho
How are developers concerned with hardware Problems?
These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so far hidden it well :-)
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
> i beg to disagree, > it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop > solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are > using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, > the developers can understand the market. > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < > ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Wash I agree :-)) >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends >> who have >> >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure >> >> >> > >> > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better >> fone! Indios >> > is for the masses:-) >> > -- >> > Best regards, >> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> > Nairobi,KE >> > +254733744121/+254722743223 >> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> > Damn!! >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments > of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth > of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a > means of protecting corporate power against democracy”* > > ~ Alex Carey ~ > > Tel No: 0x2af23696 > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Nokia have the best phone cameras On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
FACT: No phone camera is that good, cause quality of image is as good as the ccd. If you want snappy images, look for the D3 for instance and then buy a nokia 1100 for sms and calls. That said, what a phone seeks to achieve is a balance of all, a family photo, a video of your stupid cousin drunk driving, mp3 on the road ...e.t.c .e.t.c which means buying an expensive phone that is really a jack of all trades is bad investment...
IDEOS IDIOT!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
If you bought the phone, I bet your having fun. But thats what you get when u buy something cheap. HTC Desire Z
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed.
-- -erastus +254733725373 Nairobi Kenya
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Braniac / Gisho
How are developers concerned with hardware Problems?
These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so far hidden it well :-)
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any > developers in here > > -- > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote: > >> i beg to disagree, >> it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop >> solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are >> using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, >> the developers can understand the market. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < >> ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Wash I agree :-)) >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina < >>> swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends >>> who have >>> >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW >>> failure >>> >> >>> > >>> > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better >>> fone! Indios >>> > is for the masses:-) >>> > -- >>> > Best regards, >>> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> > Nairobi,KE >>> > +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>> > Damn!! >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> > ------------ >>> > Skunkworks Rules >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> > ------------ >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three >> developments of great political importance: the growth of >> democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of >> corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against >> democracy”* >> >> ~ Alex Carey ~ >> >> Tel No: 0x2af23696 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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yeah,great look where it got them. Nokia are the best example to use considering how well they are doing of late... who buys a phone because of a great camera? and by the way how many (average) photos do you take per day using a phone?? On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
Nokia have the best phone cameras
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
FACT: No phone camera is that good, cause quality of image is as good as the ccd. If you want snappy images, look for the D3 for instance and then buy a nokia 1100 for sms and calls. That said, what a phone seeks to achieve is a balance of all, a family photo, a video of your stupid cousin drunk driving, mp3 on the road ...e.t.c .e.t.c which means buying an expensive phone that is really a jack of all trades is bad investment...
IDEOS IDIOT!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
If you bought the phone, I bet your having fun. But thats what you get when u buy something cheap. HTC Desire Z
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed.
-- -erastus +254733725373 Nairobi Kenya
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
> @ Braniac / Gisho > > How are developers concerned with hardware Problems? > > These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so > far hidden it well :-) > > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any >> developers in here >> >> -- >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> i beg to disagree, >>> it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop >>> solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are >>> using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, >>> the developers can understand the market. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < >>> ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Wash I agree :-)) >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina < >>>> swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my >>>> friends who have >>>> >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW >>>> failure >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better >>>> fone! Indios >>>> > is for the masses:-) >>>> > -- >>>> > Best regards, >>>> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>> > Nairobi,KE >>>> > +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>>> > Damn!! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three >>> developments of great political importance: the growth of >>> democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of >>> corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against >>> democracy”* >>> >>> ~ Alex Carey ~ >>> >>> Tel No: 0x2af23696 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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The IDEOS are all about the user market. It should make developers excited that they will have a greater market for their applications. By making smart phones cheap as chips we can reach people with technology that we could not before. I think this is landmark and quite incredible. In terms of people needing to know how it works... We are using them in our ICT4D and Social Enterprise training class at Africa Nazarene University to students who will then teach the wananchi. We are accepting applications for next month's class. In terms of the quality of the handsets, they are under warranty. If they are found faulty they should be replaced. We have found in our testing that there are some apps that have been developed that really take them down. The apps market should be entered with care as with any software. If it is not done thoughtfully, there are always issues. On the Nokias, I found the hardware to be great, but the OS to be deficient in many ways. The Android 2.1 and 2.2 are tremendously better. Best, Crystal On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:55 PM, martow <martow@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah,great look where it got them. Nokia are the best example to use considering how well they are doing of late... who buys a phone because of a great camera?
and by the way how many (average) photos do you take per day using a phone??
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
Nokia have the best phone cameras
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
FACT: No phone camera is that good, cause quality of image is as good as the ccd. If you want snappy images, look for the D3 for instance and then buy a nokia 1100 for sms and calls. That said, what a phone seeks to achieve is a balance of all, a family photo, a video of your stupid cousin drunk driving, mp3 on the road ...e.t.c .e.t.c which means buying an expensive phone that is really a jack of all trades is bad investment...
IDEOS IDIOT!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com>wrote:
If you bought the phone, I bet your having fun. But thats what you get when u buy something cheap. HTC Desire Z
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed. > > -- > -erastus > +254733725373 > Nairobi Kenya > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < > ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @ Braniac / Gisho >> >> How are developers concerned with hardware Problems? >> >> These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so >> far hidden it well :-) >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> @Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any >>> developers in here >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] < >>> arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> i beg to disagree, >>>> it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop >>>> solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are >>>> using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, >>>> the developers can understand the market. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < >>>> ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wash I agree :-)) >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina < >>>>> swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my >>>>> friends who have >>>>> >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW >>>>> failure >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better >>>>> fone! Indios >>>>> > is for the masses:-) >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Best regards, >>>>> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>>> > Nairobi,KE >>>>> > +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>>> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>>>> > Damn!! >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> > ------------ >>>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> > ------------ >>>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three >>>> developments of great political importance: the growth of >>>> democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of >>>> corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against >>>> democracy”* >>>> >>>> ~ Alex Carey ~ >>>> >>>> Tel No: 0x2af23696 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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i do like the IDEOS phone but to me its impractical 1) hogs too much battery too fast - i am on the road two or three days a week 2) to save battery i was advised to reduce my apps - this is why i bought the phone 3) everything seems to be for sale - as a tekkie i expected way more freebies 4) software wars like the facebook issue - leaves me worried - what happens when i need the apps to breathe every day and someone pulls the plug because of some "code sharing" violation i think the phone works for tekkies sitting on their laptops 8 hours a day , for those of us not able to access power most of the day , its a nightmare watching your green battery meter turn red. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Crystal Watley Kigoni < crystal@voicesofafrica.org> wrote:
The IDEOS are all about the user market. It should make developers excited that they will have a greater market for their applications. By making smart phones cheap as chips we can reach people with technology that we could not before. I think this is landmark and quite incredible.
In terms of people needing to know how it works... We are using them in our ICT4D and Social Enterprise training class at Africa Nazarene University to students who will then teach the wananchi. We are accepting applications for next month's class.
In terms of the quality of the handsets, they are under warranty. If they are found faulty they should be replaced. We have found in our testing that there are some apps that have been developed that really take them down. The apps market should be entered with care as with any software. If it is not done thoughtfully, there are always issues.
On the Nokias, I found the hardware to be great, but the OS to be deficient in many ways. The Android 2.1 and 2.2 are tremendously better.
Best,
Crystal
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:55 PM, martow <martow@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah,great look where it got them. Nokia are the best example to use considering how well they are doing of late... who buys a phone because of a great camera?
and by the way how many (average) photos do you take per day using a phone??
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
Nokia have the best phone cameras
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
FACT: No phone camera is that good, cause quality of image is as good as the ccd. If you want snappy images, look for the D3 for instance and then buy a nokia 1100 for sms and calls. That said, what a phone seeks to achieve is a balance of all, a family photo, a video of your stupid cousin drunk driving, mp3 on the road ...e.t.c .e.t.c which means buying an expensive phone that is really a jack of all trades is bad investment...
IDEOS IDIOT!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com>wrote:
If you bought the phone, I bet your having fun. But thats what you get when u buy something cheap. HTC Desire Z
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com>wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
> @ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol.. > > > @Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not > charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and > told to wait for replacements !!! > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed. >> >> -- >> -erastus >> +254733725373 >> Nairobi Kenya >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < >> ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> @ Braniac / Gisho >>> >>> How are developers concerned with hardware Problems? >>> >>> These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so >>> far hidden it well :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> @Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any >>>> developers in here >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] < >>>> arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> i beg to disagree, >>>>> it is only by understanding the masses that this group can >>>>> develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how >>>>> they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the >>>>> idiot, the developers can understand the market. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < >>>>> ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Wash I agree :-)) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina < >>>>>> swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my >>>>>> friends who have >>>>>> >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW >>>>>> failure >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better >>>>>> fone! Indios >>>>>> > is for the masses:-) >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Best regards, >>>>>> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>>>> > Nairobi,KE >>>>>> > +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>>>> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>>>>> > Damn!! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> > ------------ >>>>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> > ------------ >>>>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three >>>>> developments of great political importance: the growth of >>>>> democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of >>>>> corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against >>>>> democracy”* >>>>> >>>>> ~ Alex Carey ~ >>>>> >>>>> Tel No: 0x2af23696 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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What everyone seems to be forgetting is the cost! Common sense has it that if you want a smartphone with great battery life that can do your dishes and laundry, you should be prepared to pay for it. The phone costs 8,500 bob and ships with 1,000 KES of airtime that you can sell as soon as it's handed to you! It's a great deal. What are the alternatives in the same price range? For smart phones? *NONE*. Feature phones don't even ship with similar features... The phone may not be the best, or made with the sexiest hardware, but it gets more people using smartphones, which is good. If someone who was price sensitive experiences the device, he/she will save to buy a better device... in theory anyway... -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |

I am a heavy user of the phone and I have not managed to spoil the hardware, what app do I need to do this?

<hypothetical case> I spent 35k on a second generation iphone, then later upgraded to iphone 4 at 70k. Now you guys are having fun with an 8k phone! There must be something wrong. I bought a great phone on a good offer. Therefore, there must be something wrong with that 8k phone. </hypothetical case> 2011/3/8 Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
I am a heavy user of the phone and I have not managed to spoil the hardware, what app do I need to do this?
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anyone else feeling like this? http://i.imgur.com/wCQsI.jpg -- On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
<hypothetical case> I spent 35k on a second generation iphone, then later upgraded to iphone 4 at 70k. Now you guys are having fun with an 8k phone! There must be something wrong. I bought a great phone on a good offer. Therefore, there must be something wrong with that 8k phone. </hypothetical case>
2011/3/8 Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
I am a heavy user of the phone and I have not managed to spoil the hardware, what app do I need to do this?
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Well it is adversitsed as "THE GOOGLE PHONE" But who are the manufacturers ?? I suspect they are far away on the other side of the globe. Just one complaint though about the iDeos - some games eg Angry Birds load on the extreme side of the screen; so all u see on ur view screen is the inactive part of the game. Eg in Angry birds; all you see is the blue sky. Anybody else experienced this ?

hahahahaha....Wash ..? On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:18 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Well it is adversitsed as "THE GOOGLE PHONE"
But who are the manufacturers ?? I suspect they are far away on the other side of the globe.
Just one complaint though about the iDeos - some games eg Angry Birds load on the extreme side of the screen;
so all u see on ur view screen is the inactive part of the game. Eg in Angry birds; all you see is the blue sky.
Anybody else experienced this ?
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What's this IDEOS bashing all about, really? I've bought 5 pieces for myself and relatives since it was launched and not a single one of them has an issue. I also am a heavy user as I use it for SSH, surfing and mails whenever I'm mobile. I also know of about 10 other guys who have it and I haven't heard of any hardware failures...maybe these people reporting failures molest them [?]

I think what sells for the ideos is Android not the hardware. However most apps in Android do not come pre-installed, you have to download them first then install. The average mass user may not be really into the searching and downloading of apps for his phone and will simply expect to accomplish as much with the standard apps. I believe Android has endless possibilities but one has to be an average techie or atleast have some tinkering skills to be able to get apps that will help you do above average stuff. Safcom's strategy of marketing the phone might be to push more users to data services which are more expensive than voice. my take. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com> wrote:
What's this IDEOS bashing all about, really?
I've bought 5 pieces for myself and relatives since it was launched and not a single one of them has an issue. I also am a heavy user as I use it for SSH, surfing and mails whenever I'm mobile.
I also know of about 10 other guys who have it and I haven't heard of any hardware failures...maybe these people reporting failures molest them [?]
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This is a curious argument, this 'average user' is attracted to the OS of the phone but has no idea how to go about getting apps. These average users, are they the same ones who've been driving up the Opera Mini usage stats in Kenya? 2011/3/8 Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com>
I think what sells for the ideos is Android not the hardware. However most apps in Android do not come pre-installed, you have to download them first then install. The average mass user may not be really into the searching and downloading of apps for his phone and will simply expect to accomplish as much with the standard apps. I believe Android has endless possibilities but one has to be an average techie or atleast have some tinkering skills to be able to get apps that will help you do above average stuff. Safcom's strategy of marketing the phone might be to push more users to data services which are more expensive than voice.
my take.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
What's this IDEOS bashing all about, really?
I've bought 5 pieces for myself and relatives since it was launched and not a single one of them has an issue. I also am a heavy user as I use it for SSH, surfing and mails whenever I'm mobile.
I also know of about 10 other guys who have it and I haven't heard of any hardware failures...maybe these people reporting failures molest them [?]
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Yeah the same ones who have been using snaptu and all, am wondering why the 'average user' is always thought to be clueless!! V On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:00 PM, amanya <whynnot@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a curious argument, this 'average user' is attracted to the OS of the phone but has no idea how to go about getting apps. These average users, are they the same ones who've been driving up the Opera Mini usage stats in Kenya?
2011/3/8 Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com>
I think what sells for the ideos is Android not the hardware. However most
apps in Android do not come pre-installed, you have to download them first then install. The average mass user may not be really into the searching and downloading of apps for his phone and will simply expect to accomplish as much with the standard apps. I believe Android has endless possibilities but one has to be an average techie or atleast have some tinkering skills to be able to get apps that will help you do above average stuff. Safcom's strategy of marketing the phone might be to push more users to data services which are more expensive than voice.
my take.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
What's this IDEOS bashing all about, really?
I've bought 5 pieces for myself and relatives since it was launched and not a single one of them has an issue. I also am a heavy user as I use it for SSH, surfing and mails whenever I'm mobile.
I also know of about 10 other guys who have it and I haven't heard of any hardware failures...maybe these people reporting failures molest them [?]
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Google searches for 'ideos' appear to considerably higher in Kenya compared to other countries. http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=ideos&cmpt=q 2011/3/8 amanya <whynnot@gmail.com>
This is a curious argument, this 'average user' is attracted to the OS of the phone but has no idea how to go about getting apps. These average users, are they the same ones who've been driving up the Opera Mini usage stats in Kenya?
2011/3/8 Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com>
I think what sells for the ideos is Android not the hardware. However most
apps in Android do not come pre-installed, you have to download them first then install. The average mass user may not be really into the searching and downloading of apps for his phone and will simply expect to accomplish as much with the standard apps. I believe Android has endless possibilities but one has to be an average techie or atleast have some tinkering skills to be able to get apps that will help you do above average stuff. Safcom's strategy of marketing the phone might be to push more users to data services which are more expensive than voice.
my take.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
What's this IDEOS bashing all about, really?
I've bought 5 pieces for myself and relatives since it was launched and not a single one of them has an issue. I also am a heavy user as I use it for SSH, surfing and mails whenever I'm mobile.
I also know of about 10 other guys who have it and I haven't heard of any hardware failures...maybe these people reporting failures molest them [?]
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I bought one and I consider myself a heavy user. I have an array of apps stored both on the device as well as on the sdcard. I use all apps on a daily basis (Calls blocking, exercise, gtalk, navigation, reminders...) I have no problem, except for the battery, but this is because of how I use it. I'm one very, very happy man! -- Many Thanks. Regards, Clement Ongera.

OK. I see the stats. And your point being? Anyway, I see the IDEOS brigade are out in full force and for good reason. I'm one of them with no problems so far, hardware or otherwise. I think the point many are missing here by bashing the handset is that currently, it is the cheapest Droid device in the market and the experience is the same (well, almost). For the record, I have used many Huawei products before like Orange wireless desk phones, Quidway routers, CDMA & GSM handsets and even the Safaricom modems. Fantastic budget products. The IDEOS is no exception. This also reminds me in the 80s when people trashed Japanese products as basement, low quality products. Now very few can afford the Japanese products. China is the new Japan. If you can afford iPhone, HTC or Samsung, go ahead. Let the rest also experience Android at $100 or less as someone stated earlier. By the way, if I had major hardware issues, I'd be happy to replace the IDEOS even three times at that price...and I'd still not be close the the HTCs. My two cents. On 8 March 2011 15:10, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
Google searches for 'ideos' appear to considerably higher in Kenya compared to other countries. http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=ideos&cmpt=q
2011/3/8 amanya <whynnot@gmail.com>
This is a curious argument, this 'average user' is attracted to the OS of
the phone but has no idea how to go about getting apps. These average users, are they the same ones who've been driving up the Opera Mini usage stats in Kenya?
2011/3/8 Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com>
I think what sells for the ideos is Android not the hardware. However most
apps in Android do not come pre-installed, you have to download them first then install. The average mass user may not be really into the searching and downloading of apps for his phone and will simply expect to accomplish as much with the standard apps. I believe Android has endless possibilities but one has to be an average techie or atleast have some tinkering skills to be able to get apps that will help you do above average stuff. Safcom's strategy of marketing the phone might be to push more users to data services which are more expensive than voice.
my take.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
What's this IDEOS bashing all about, really?
I've bought 5 pieces for myself and relatives since it was launched and not a single one of them has an issue. I also am a heavy user as I use it for SSH, surfing and mails whenever I'm mobile.
I also know of about 10 other guys who have it and I haven't heard of any hardware failures...maybe these people reporting failures molest them [?]
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@ NetCaster Very good summary;; and I have seen that the Chinese and Chinese Government are really determined to regain their former glory of the 14th and 15th Century.. It is now only a matter of time when "Made in China" shall be equal to "Made in Japan" They just have to resist rushing to deliver and cutting corners !!!

To play Angry Birds on IDEOS, when the game starts, press power button to lock the screen, then unlock and it will have resized

<hypothetical case>
I spent 35k on a second generation iphone, then later upgraded to iphone 4 at 70k. Now you guys are having fun with an 8k phone! There must be something wrong. I bought a great phone on a good offer. Therefore, there must be something wrong with that 8k phone. </hypothetical case> Or it could be unasikia wivu... a.k.a Kiwaruu On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
2011/3/8 Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
I am a heavy user of the phone and I have not managed to spoil the hardware, what app do I need to do this?
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@Paul Kevin For Kshs. 8400 (emphasis on price) what other phone has the IDEOS's capabilities? V On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
If you bought the phone, I bet your having fun. But thats what you get when u buy something cheap. HTC Desire Z
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed.
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Braniac / Gisho
How are developers concerned with hardware Problems?
These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so far hidden it well :-)
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
> i beg to disagree, > it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop > solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are > using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, > the developers can understand the market. > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < > ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Wash I agree :-)) >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends >> who have >> >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure >> >> >> > >> > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better >> fone! Indios >> > is for the masses:-) >> > -- >> > Best regards, >> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> > Nairobi,KE >> > +254733744121/+254722743223 >> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> > Damn!! >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments > of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth > of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a > means of protecting corporate power against democracy”* > > ~ Alex Carey ~ > > Tel No: 0x2af23696 > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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A phone with that price is very questionable......cheap is expensive. An IDEOS has cheap parts. Compare its display to a Nokia of the same price On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Victor Ngeny <victormaritim@gmail.com>wrote:
@Paul Kevin
For Kshs. 8400 (emphasis on price) what other phone has the IDEOS's capabilities?
V
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
If you bought the phone, I bet your having fun. But thats what you get when u buy something cheap. HTC Desire Z
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed.
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Braniac / Gisho
How are developers concerned with hardware Problems?
These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so far hidden it well :-)
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any > developers in here > > -- > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote: > >> i beg to disagree, >> it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop >> solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are >> using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, >> the developers can understand the market. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < >> ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Wash I agree :-)) >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina < >>> swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends >>> who have >>> >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW >>> failure >>> >> >>> > >>> > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better >>> fone! Indios >>> > is for the masses:-) >>> > -- >>> > Best regards, >>> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> > Nairobi,KE >>> > +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>> > Damn!! >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> > ------------ >>> > Skunkworks Rules >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> > ------------ >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three >> developments of great political importance: the growth of >> democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of >> corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against >> democracy”* >> >> ~ Alex Carey ~ >> >> Tel No: 0x2af23696 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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unless its subsidized by a clever provider.... On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
A phone with that price is very questionable......cheap is expensive. An IDEOS has cheap parts. Compare its display to a Nokia of the same price
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Victor Ngeny <victormaritim@gmail.com>wrote:
@Paul Kevin
For Kshs. 8400 (emphasis on price) what other phone has the IDEOS's capabilities?
V
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
If you bought the phone, I bet your having fun. But thats what you get when u buy something cheap. HTC Desire Z
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed.
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
> @ Braniac / Gisho > > How are developers concerned with hardware Problems? > > These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so > far hidden it well :-) > > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any >> developers in here >> >> -- >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> i beg to disagree, >>> it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop >>> solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are >>> using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, >>> the developers can understand the market. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < >>> ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Wash I agree :-)) >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina < >>>> swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my >>>> friends who have >>>> >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW >>>> failure >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better >>>> fone! Indios >>>> > is for the masses:-) >>>> > -- >>>> > Best regards, >>>> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>> > Nairobi,KE >>>> > +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>>> > Damn!! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three >>> developments of great political importance: the growth of >>> democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of >>> corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against >>> democracy”* >>> >>> ~ Alex Carey ~ >>> >>> Tel No: 0x2af23696 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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:-) On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:57 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
unless its subsidized by a clever provider....
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
A phone with that price is very questionable......cheap is expensive. An IDEOS has cheap parts. Compare its display to a Nokia of the same price
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Victor Ngeny <victormaritim@gmail.com>wrote:
@Paul Kevin
For Kshs. 8400 (emphasis on price) what other phone has the IDEOS's capabilities?
V
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com>wrote:
If you bought the phone, I bet your having fun. But thats what you get when u buy something cheap. HTC Desire Z
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed. > > -- > -erastus > +254733725373 > Nairobi Kenya > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < > ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @ Braniac / Gisho >> >> How are developers concerned with hardware Problems? >> >> These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so >> far hidden it well :-) >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> @Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any >>> developers in here >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] < >>> arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> i beg to disagree, >>>> it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop >>>> solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are >>>> using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, >>>> the developers can understand the market. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < >>>> ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wash I agree :-)) >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina < >>>>> swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my >>>>> friends who have >>>>> >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW >>>>> failure >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better >>>>> fone! Indios >>>>> > is for the masses:-) >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Best regards, >>>>> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>>> > Nairobi,KE >>>>> > +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>>> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>>>> > Damn!! >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> > ------------ >>>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> > ------------ >>>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three >>>> developments of great political importance: the growth of >>>> democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of >>>> corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against >>>> democracy”* >>>> >>>> ~ Alex Carey ~ >>>> >>>> Tel No: 0x2af23696 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Price is subsidized by Safcom, that said, this whole talk of hardware issues is strange seeing as none have been listed here. And completely opposite from what has been stated above many of my friends (100%) have not yet returned their handsets to Safcom ;-) V On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
A phone with that price is very questionable......cheap is expensive. An IDEOS has cheap parts. Compare its display to a Nokia of the same price
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Victor Ngeny <victormaritim@gmail.com>wrote:
@Paul Kevin
For Kshs. 8400 (emphasis on price) what other phone has the IDEOS's capabilities?
V
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
If you bought the phone, I bet your having fun. But thats what you get when u buy something cheap. HTC Desire Z
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
On 8 March 2011 11:36, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Dennis ...kwani u work for Safcom? lol..
@Braniac - in a week ive heard of complaints hardware phones not charging .... always going off on their own. They have returned them and told to wait for replacements !!!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin, it looked like IDEOS was getting bashed.
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
> @ Braniac / Gisho > > How are developers concerned with hardware Problems? > > These are warranty cases that have flooded Safcom and they have so > far hidden it well :-) > > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any >> developers in here >> >> -- >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> i beg to disagree, >>> it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop >>> solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are >>> using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, >>> the developers can understand the market. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < >>> ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Wash I agree :-)) >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina < >>>> swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my >>>> friends who have >>>> >> purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW >>>> failure >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better >>>> fone! Indios >>>> > is for the masses:-) >>>> > -- >>>> > Best regards, >>>> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>> > Nairobi,KE >>>> > +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>>> > Damn!! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three >>> developments of great political importance: the growth of >>> democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of >>> corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against >>> democracy”* >>> >>> ~ Alex Carey ~ >>> >>> Tel No: 0x2af23696 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:43, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
20 posts so far and the best we have are unsubstantiated rumours. I am the proud owner of a yellow h-IDEOS, 60 hours battery life, rooted, a linux terminal, vi, ssh, gps-status, cheap camera, lots of fun and no complaints.
I think only techies like Ndungi need to buy the INDIOS then! To the masses, it may be a big shortchange! They don't have the knowledge some guys have here, which would improve their lot when it comes to using a DROID. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

And we are still waiting to hear what hardware problems these are .. On 8 March 2011 11:15, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
i beg to disagree, it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, the developers can understand the market.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
Wash I agree :-))
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>
wrote:
It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who
have
purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios is for the masses:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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@Brainiac , exactly was starting to get worried if there are any developers in here
@gisho you didnt hear of the apocalypse? On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
i beg to disagree, it is only by understanding the masses that this group can develop solutions that the masses need, for instance, by understanding how they are using, what they are complaining about and how they experience the idiot, the developers can understand the market.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
Wash I agree :-))
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>
wrote:
It has been termed idiot smartphone. More than 70% of my friends who
have
purchased it have had to take it back to Safcon coz of HW failure
Everyone on this forum should not buy the INDIOS. Get a better fone! Indios is for the masses:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Please explain what hardware failures. Weird that I have not heard of any from my friends or people on twitter.so I find it weird if 70 % of your (how many,2) friends returned it

must say this has been an interesting read. skunkers/eets with the ideos know how it feels to own such a powerful device for less, ones who dont own it what one but cant because of sheer pride :-) I have an an android phone(ideos) with wifi gps 3g 32g sd support at 8500 whats there to complain about battery you might say but most phone running android have this problem. Summary. android is increasing its market share. huawei is increasing sales and getting more recognition. safaricom get more data sales however not entirely true because the phone is not locked to safcom. I have a smart phone(with ANDROID). I win. On 3/8/2011 11:15 AM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Please explain what hardware failures. Weird that I have not heard of any from my friends or people on twitter.so I find it weird if 70 % of your (how many,2) friends returned it
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Have bought two of these IDEOS phones so far - my boss brought his straight to South Africa - now everyone wants one from Kenya. He has never had any issues and swears by the phone. Yesterday he was telling me I should throw away my "junk" Nokia E5 because the IDEOS is so much easier to use (very true). I used the 2nd IDEOS in Kenya, Gabon, and South Africa - amazing experience. I had to give it away when I got to SA - but have sworn to myself that I must buy another one (this last one was glaring pink - but I loved the features). Long story short - any model of phone will have (some) faulty units which need warranty replacement - especially if they are moving in the quantities that the IDEOS is moving! for $100 this is probably the next best thing after sliced bread!!!! Mblayo On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:50 PM, nerdalf <nerdalf@gmail.com> wrote:
must say this has been an interesting read. skunkers/eets with the ideos know how it feels to own such a powerful device for less, ones who dont own it what one but cant because of sheer pride :-)
I have an an android phone(ideos) with wifi gps 3g 32g sd support at 8500 whats there to complain about battery you might say but most phone running android have this problem.
Summary. android is increasing its market share. huawei is increasing sales and getting more recognition. safaricom get more data sales however not entirely true because the phone is not locked to safcom. I have a smart phone(with ANDROID). I win.
On 3/8/2011 11:15 AM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Please explain what hardware failures. Weird that I have not heard of any from my friends or people on twitter.so I find it weird if 70 % of your (how many,2) friends returned it
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I don't know why some guys here are complaining about the IDEOS. Mine has never had any problem. As for battery life, switch off your WIFI when not necessary and install Battery doctor app to manage your battery. This phone is just great! At just Kshs 8500 = GREAT PHONE+ 1000 AIRTIME + 600MB DATA. Which Nokia/Samsung acts like a wireless router, has WIFI, has GPS, acts like a 3G modem, Bluetooth, fully touch screen and has thousands apps to choose from for Kshs 6500 (8500 minus 1k airtime and 1k data)? This phone is now a threat to the likes of Samsung Galaxy whose price is over 5 times. I can't wait for Huawei IDEOS Reloaded. [?] Maybe its gonna be the next big thing in phones. Have a great day! My thots, Rock[?] On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Have bought two of these IDEOS phones so far - my boss brought his straight to South Africa - now everyone wants one from Kenya. He has never had any issues and swears by the phone. Yesterday he was telling me I should throw away my "junk" Nokia E5 because the IDEOS is so much easier to use (very true).
I used the 2nd IDEOS in Kenya, Gabon, and South Africa - amazing experience. I had to give it away when I got to SA - but have sworn to myself that I must buy another one (this last one was glaring pink - but I loved the features).
Long story short - any model of phone will have (some) faulty units which need warranty replacement - especially if they are moving in the quantities that the IDEOS is moving!
for $100 this is probably the next best thing after sliced bread!!!!
Mblayo
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:50 PM, nerdalf <nerdalf@gmail.com> wrote:
must say this has been an interesting read. skunkers/eets with the ideos know how it feels to own such a powerful device for less, ones who dont own it what one but cant because of sheer pride :-)
I have an an android phone(ideos) with wifi gps 3g 32g sd support at 8500 whats there to complain about battery you might say but most phone running android have this problem.
Summary. android is increasing its market share. huawei is increasing sales and getting more recognition. safaricom get more data sales however not entirely true because the phone is not locked to safcom. I have a smart phone(with ANDROID). I win.
On 3/8/2011 11:15 AM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Please explain what hardware failures. Weird that I have not heard of any from my friends or people on twitter.so I find it weird if 70 % of your (how many,2) friends returned it
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all you HUAWEII IDEOS HATERS! The IDEOS is here to stay, Huaweii is the next (maybe even current) big thing... on that thought, here is what i think about chinese industry, and why they will succeed big time. they studied the america vs japanese models on cars. and realized that japan won cause of working on the costs. so they sought to lower the cost of production to the absolute minimum (they had the population, so they did loads of cheap energy (3 Gorges, coal ..etc) then they went for cheap raw materials by getting it cheap instead of through wars and occupations. then to start off, they decided not to reinvent the wheel, so they copied existing technology, not so much to make money as to understand and work the tech cheaper. then now they are beginning to innovate on that (russian fighter planes, more defined mobile phone brands...e.t.c) at a fraction of the cost... Im betting they are going for the kill, bottom prices and excellent products and exclusive deals with providers... you watch this space, the army from the east is coming for us. my 2 cent.. No, my 1 million £ !. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Rocky Mbithi <rockymbithi@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't know why some guys here are complaining about the IDEOS. Mine has never had any problem. As for battery life, switch off your WIFI
when not necessary and install Battery doctor app to manage your battery.
This phone is just great! At just Kshs 8500 = GREAT PHONE+ 1000 AIRTIME + 600MB DATA.
Which Nokia/Samsung acts like a wireless router, has WIFI, has GPS, acts like a 3G modem, Bluetooth, fully touch screen and has thousands apps
to choose from for Kshs 6500 (8500 minus 1k airtime and 1k data)?
This phone is now a threat to the likes of Samsung Galaxy whose price is over 5 times. I can't wait for Huawei IDEOS Reloaded. [?] Maybe its gonna
be the next big thing in phones.
Have a great day!
My thots, Rock[?]
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Have bought two of these IDEOS phones so far - my boss brought his straight to South Africa - now everyone wants one from Kenya. He has never had any issues and swears by the phone. Yesterday he was telling me I should throw away my "junk" Nokia E5 because the IDEOS is so much easier to use (very true).
I used the 2nd IDEOS in Kenya, Gabon, and South Africa - amazing experience. I had to give it away when I got to SA - but have sworn to myself that I must buy another one (this last one was glaring pink - but I loved the features).
Long story short - any model of phone will have (some) faulty units which need warranty replacement - especially if they are moving in the quantities that the IDEOS is moving!
for $100 this is probably the next best thing after sliced bread!!!!
Mblayo
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:50 PM, nerdalf <nerdalf@gmail.com> wrote:
must say this has been an interesting read. skunkers/eets with the ideos know how it feels to own such a powerful device for less, ones who dont own it what one but cant because of sheer pride :-)
I have an an android phone(ideos) with wifi gps 3g 32g sd support at 8500 whats there to complain about battery you might say but most phone running android have this problem.
Summary. android is increasing its market share. huawei is increasing sales and getting more recognition. safaricom get more data sales however not entirely true because the phone is not locked to safcom. I have a smart phone(with ANDROID). I win.
On 3/8/2011 11:15 AM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Please explain what hardware failures. Weird that I have not heard of any from my friends or people on twitter.so I find it weird if 70 % of your (how many,2) friends returned it
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Ok, so if we dont like the IDEOS we should go buy a better phone out there. Stop complaining, move on and live your life On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:48 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
all you HUAWEII IDEOS HATERS!
The IDEOS is here to stay, Huaweii is the next (maybe even current) big thing...
on that thought, here is what i think about chinese industry, and why they will succeed big time.
they studied the america vs japanese models on cars. and realized that japan won cause of working on the costs.
so they sought to lower the cost of production to the absolute minimum (they had the population, so they did loads of cheap energy (3 Gorges, coal ..etc)
then they went for cheap raw materials by getting it cheap instead of through wars and occupations.
then to start off, they decided not to reinvent the wheel, so they copied existing technology, not so much to make money as to understand and work the tech cheaper.
then now they are beginning to innovate on that (russian fighter planes, more defined mobile phone brands...e.t.c) at a fraction of the cost...
Im betting they are going for the kill, bottom prices and excellent products and exclusive deals with providers... you watch this space, the army from the east is coming for us.
my 2 cent.. No, my 1 million £ !.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Rocky Mbithi <rockymbithi@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't know why some guys here are complaining about the IDEOS. Mine has never had any problem. As for battery life, switch off your WIFI
when not necessary and install Battery doctor app to manage your battery.
This phone is just great! At just Kshs 8500 = GREAT PHONE+ 1000 AIRTIME + 600MB DATA.
Which Nokia/Samsung acts like a wireless router, has WIFI, has GPS, acts like a 3G modem, Bluetooth, fully touch screen and has thousands apps
to choose from for Kshs 6500 (8500 minus 1k airtime and 1k data)?
This phone is now a threat to the likes of Samsung Galaxy whose price is over 5 times. I can't wait for Huawei IDEOS Reloaded. [?] Maybe its gonna
be the next big thing in phones.
Have a great day!
My thots, Rock[?]
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Have bought two of these IDEOS phones so far - my boss brought his straight to South Africa - now everyone wants one from Kenya. He has never had any issues and swears by the phone. Yesterday he was telling me I should throw away my "junk" Nokia E5 because the IDEOS is so much easier to use (very true).
I used the 2nd IDEOS in Kenya, Gabon, and South Africa - amazing experience. I had to give it away when I got to SA - but have sworn to myself that I must buy another one (this last one was glaring pink - but I loved the features).
Long story short - any model of phone will have (some) faulty units which need warranty replacement - especially if they are moving in the quantities that the IDEOS is moving!
for $100 this is probably the next best thing after sliced bread!!!!
Mblayo
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:50 PM, nerdalf <nerdalf@gmail.com> wrote:
must say this has been an interesting read. skunkers/eets with the ideos know how it feels to own such a powerful device for less, ones who dont own it what one but cant because of sheer pride :-)
I have an an android phone(ideos) with wifi gps 3g 32g sd support at 8500 whats there to complain about battery you might say but most phone running android have this problem.
Summary. android is increasing its market share. huawei is increasing sales and getting more recognition. safaricom get more data sales however not entirely true because the phone is not locked to safcom. I have a smart phone(with ANDROID). I win.
On 3/8/2011 11:15 AM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Please explain what hardware failures. Weird that I have not heard of any from my friends or people on twitter.so I find it weird if 70 % of your (how many,2) friends returned it
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A complaint is the best thing a business can get. i am complaining about the ideos because i want it to have more features , for me , its my phone it should work for me. i want a longer lasting battery, a phone with a bigger keypad (Chinese fingers just don't compare to African ones) . satisfaction with what you have leads to stagnation, let people vent their issues ,sad or happy. true development comes from all the complainers not all you very agreeable people. the technology will succeed if they can address more problems, so far the tekkies like the phone now extend it for the non tekkies. Me On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, so if we dont like the IDEOS we should go buy a better phone out there. Stop complaining, move on and live your life
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:48 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
all you HUAWEII IDEOS HATERS!
The IDEOS is here to stay, Huaweii is the next (maybe even current) big thing...
on that thought, here is what i think about chinese industry, and why they will succeed big time.
they studied the america vs japanese models on cars. and realized that japan won cause of working on the costs.
so they sought to lower the cost of production to the absolute minimum (they had the population, so they did loads of cheap energy (3 Gorges, coal ..etc)
then they went for cheap raw materials by getting it cheap instead of through wars and occupations.
then to start off, they decided not to reinvent the wheel, so they copied existing technology, not so much to make money as to understand and work the tech cheaper.
then now they are beginning to innovate on that (russian fighter planes, more defined mobile phone brands...e.t.c) at a fraction of the cost...
Im betting they are going for the kill, bottom prices and excellent products and exclusive deals with providers... you watch this space, the army from the east is coming for us.
my 2 cent.. No, my 1 million £ !.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Rocky Mbithi <rockymbithi@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't know why some guys here are complaining about the IDEOS. Mine has never had any problem. As for battery life, switch off your WIFI
when not necessary and install Battery doctor app to manage your battery.
This phone is just great! At just Kshs 8500 = GREAT PHONE+ 1000 AIRTIME + 600MB DATA.
Which Nokia/Samsung acts like a wireless router, has WIFI, has GPS, acts like a 3G modem, Bluetooth, fully touch screen and has thousands apps
to choose from for Kshs 6500 (8500 minus 1k airtime and 1k data)?
This phone is now a threat to the likes of Samsung Galaxy whose price is over 5 times. I can't wait for Huawei IDEOS Reloaded. [?] Maybe its gonna
be the next big thing in phones.
Have a great day!
My thots, Rock[?]
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Have bought two of these IDEOS phones so far - my boss brought his straight to South Africa - now everyone wants one from Kenya. He has never had any issues and swears by the phone. Yesterday he was telling me I should throw away my "junk" Nokia E5 because the IDEOS is so much easier to use (very true).
I used the 2nd IDEOS in Kenya, Gabon, and South Africa - amazing experience. I had to give it away when I got to SA - but have sworn to myself that I must buy another one (this last one was glaring pink - but I loved the features).
Long story short - any model of phone will have (some) faulty units which need warranty replacement - especially if they are moving in the quantities that the IDEOS is moving!
for $100 this is probably the next best thing after sliced bread!!!!
Mblayo
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:50 PM, nerdalf <nerdalf@gmail.com> wrote:
must say this has been an interesting read. skunkers/eets with the ideos know how it feels to own such a powerful device for less, ones who dont own it what one but cant because of sheer pride :-)
I have an an android phone(ideos) with wifi gps 3g 32g sd support at 8500 whats there to complain about battery you might say but most phone running android have this problem.
Summary. android is increasing its market share. huawei is increasing sales and getting more recognition. safaricom get more data sales however not entirely true because the phone is not locked to safcom. I have a smart phone(with ANDROID). I win.
On 3/8/2011 11:15 AM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Please explain what hardware failures. Weird that I have not heard of any from my friends or people on twitter.so I find it weird if 70 % of your (how many,2) friends returned it
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@Theus - your complaints have no basis here. If you want better performing hardware just fork out the extra cash! Nobody forced you to buy it - and there are countless other hardware platforms you can enjoy your Android experience on. Anyone who is happy with the IDEOS is well aware of the compromises made in performance/screen quality et al in order to attain the low price. It's useless expecting a Vitz RS to perform like an Audi RS6. That will never come to pass.

@Haggai Word!! On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
@Theus - your complaints have no basis here.
If you want better performing hardware just fork out the extra cash! Nobody forced you to buy it - and there are countless other hardware platforms you can enjoy your Android experience on.
Anyone who is happy with the IDEOS is well aware of the compromises made in performance/screen quality et al in order to attain the low price.
It's useless expecting a Vitz RS to perform like an Audi RS6. That will never come to pass.
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Ideos has taken other OS by storm, it has every feature you would want for less compared to other phones. My good friend had bought a Nokia C3 but feels like selling it. The very thing that you have many application for use for day to day running makes it the bomb. Now i can backup my SMS, all contacts automatically.. so no more worries about stolen phones, calendar.. , any thing i want to do.. i just google and get an application and other associated applications. Most applications are free .. i have good bible, youtube downloader, dictionary... I think its time we do a kamusi thats what missing and the application needs to be done locally.. so that you can google kamusi for adroid.. ......... Marto

Word of advice to new IDEOS users. Make sure you reinstall the OS before you start using. This will format the internal memory and it will be smooth sailing from there. Regards, Tony On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Martin Mwai <mwai.karuri@gmail.com> wrote:
Ideos has taken other OS by storm, it has every feature you would want for less compared to other phones. My good friend had bought a Nokia C3 but feels like selling it. The very thing that you have many application for use for day to day running makes it the bomb. Now i can backup my SMS, all contacts automatically.. so no more worries about stolen phones, calendar.. , any thing i want to do.. i just google and get an application and other associated applications. Most applications are free .. i have good bible, youtube downloader, dictionary...
I think its time we do a kamusi thats what missing and the application needs to be done locally.. so that you can google kamusi for adroid..
......... Marto
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Am getting one Idiot now On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:41 PM, tony njue <youngsumo@gmail.com> wrote:
Word of advice to new IDEOS users. Make sure you reinstall the OS before you start using. This will format the internal memory and it will be smooth sailing from there.
Regards, Tony
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Martin Mwai <mwai.karuri@gmail.com>wrote:
Ideos has taken other OS by storm, it has every feature you would want for less compared to other phones. My good friend had bought a Nokia C3 but feels like selling it. The very thing that you have many application for use for day to day running makes it the bomb. Now i can backup my SMS, all contacts automatically.. so no more worries about stolen phones, calendar.. , any thing i want to do.. i just google and get an application and other associated applications. Most applications are free .. i have good bible, youtube downloader, dictionary...
I think its time we do a kamusi thats what missing and the application needs to be done locally.. so that you can google kamusi for adroid..
......... Marto
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i say once i get a ka loose 9k it looks like a good investment. Now exactly how bad is the battery? On 3/10/11, Tony Ndegwa <mzeeantoh@gmail.com> wrote:
Am getting one Idiot now
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:41 PM, tony njue <youngsumo@gmail.com> wrote:
Word of advice to new IDEOS users. Make sure you reinstall the OS before you start using. This will format the internal memory and it will be smooth sailing from there.
Regards, Tony
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Martin Mwai <mwai.karuri@gmail.com>wrote:
Ideos has taken other OS by storm, it has every feature you would want for less compared to other phones. My good friend had bought a Nokia C3 but feels like selling it. The very thing that you have many application for use for day to day running makes it the bomb. Now i can backup my SMS, all contacts automatically.. so no more worries about stolen phones, calendar.. , any thing i want to do.. i just google and get an application and other associated applications. Most applications are free .. i have good bible, youtube downloader, dictionary...
I think its time we do a kamusi thats what missing and the application needs to be done locally.. so that you can google kamusi for adroid..
......... Marto
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How is the vodafone piece that is also on offer from sufferin-com? The v8... for 13k On 3/10/11, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> wrote:
i say once i get a ka loose 9k it looks like a good investment. Now exactly how bad is the battery?
On 3/10/11, Tony Ndegwa <mzeeantoh@gmail.com> wrote:
Am getting one Idiot now
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:41 PM, tony njue <youngsumo@gmail.com> wrote:
Word of advice to new IDEOS users. Make sure you reinstall the OS before you start using. This will format the internal memory and it will be smooth sailing from there.
Regards, Tony
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Martin Mwai <mwai.karuri@gmail.com>wrote:
Ideos has taken other OS by storm, it has every feature you would want for less compared to other phones. My good friend had bought a Nokia C3 but feels like selling it. The very thing that you have many application for use for day to day running makes it the bomb. Now i can backup my SMS, all contacts automatically.. so no more worries about stolen phones, calendar.. , any thing i want to do.. i just google and get an application and other associated applications. Most applications are free .. i have good bible, youtube downloader, dictionary...
I think its time we do a kamusi thats what missing and the application needs to be done locally.. so that you can google kamusi for adroid..
......... Marto
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Now safcom should launch a 200 dollar 10"pad and they will have great sales. My take is that most people admire and would want to own the tablets but the cost is just too high for the common mwananchi -----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Gituma Nturibi Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:43 AM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] IDEOS really taking it to the masses i say once i get a ka loose 9k it looks like a good investment. Now exactly how bad is the battery? On 3/10/11, Tony Ndegwa <mzeeantoh@gmail.com> wrote:
Am getting one Idiot now
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:41 PM, tony njue <youngsumo@gmail.com> wrote:
Word of advice to new IDEOS users. Make sure you reinstall the OS before you start using. This will format the internal memory and it will be smooth sailing from there.
Regards, Tony
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Martin Mwai <mwai.karuri@gmail.com>wrote:
Ideos has taken other OS by storm, it has every feature you would want for less compared to other phones. My good friend had bought a Nokia C3 but feels like selling it. The very thing that you have many application for use for day to day running makes it the bomb. Now i can backup my SMS, all contacts automatically.. so no more worries about stolen phones, calendar.. , any thing i want to do.. i just google and get an application and other associated applications. Most applications are free .. i have good bible, youtube downloader, dictionary...
I think its time we do a kamusi thats what missing and the application needs to be done locally.. so that you can google kamusi for adroid..
......... Marto
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As someone says its all about the price of this phone. If anyone wanted a brilliant phone he/she should have budgeted 6-7 times the price of it. I have compared it with my HTC glacier and I have to say am impressed at that price. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
@Theus - your complaints have no basis here.
If you want better performing hardware just fork out the extra cash! Nobody forced you to buy it - and there are countless other hardware platforms you can enjoy your Android experience on.
Anyone who is happy with the IDEOS is well aware of the compromises made in performance/screen quality et al in order to attain the low price.
It's useless expecting a Vitz RS to perform like an Audi RS6. That will never come to pass.
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@brian I thought you ra the Boss of Bosses (Corleone himself) On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
I bought a 2nd IDEOS for my boss in Nairobi 2 weeks ago at the Sarit Safaricom shop - the guy selling told me that they are moving between 60-100 per day - and they only had pink ones!
LoL!
Brian
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> wrote:
Some time back one of the workers at home was telling me how cool the ideos is- from a friend of his. Interesting the buzz has got to him yet he doesn't so much as use a comp let alone the net.
In another incident a couple of weeks back my bro went to buy one in Thika and if told me that 22 had moved that morning- wonder how fast it is in nai
just goes to show how safcom are now taking another technology to the masses... Hate them or love them they've given a 'gateway drug' for the smartphone market in Kenya... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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