Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with 4-inch Display and LTE
Apple did not show any significant change in iphone, mobile is quite important while nothing much happened save for a line of apps on the app drawer thanks to the height increase on the device and LTE ability on quite many bands(I wonder if that would work on our networks -stand corrected) . nothing changed design-wise over the last 3 phones. Apple devices working with each other is not a new thing and the fact that they are speaking about these just shows creativity has come to an end for Apple. -----Original Message----- From: Okechukwu Sent: 13-09-2012, 07:10 To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with 4-inch Display and LTE Tim Cook made a very interesting comment on why Apple is the leader: "What places Apple way ahead of the competition is how all these devices work so well together" - This is one comment non-Apple users will never understand, that's why u still looking for the wow factor. Then the website adds: "iPhone5. The biggest thing to happen to iPhone since iPhone" Apparently, Apple strives to beat itself for every successive product. Someone even commented that the iPhone5 is so useless compared to the iPhone6 which will be slimmer, faster & more value! For an Apple follower, this is definitely a getter! ./Ok3ch Sent from my iPad On Sep 12, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote: Nothing impressive about this one! Is it just me or is Apple slowly losing their 'swag'? On 12 September 2012 22:46, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I am rather underwhelmed by this new iPhone. But then again maybe its because am more inclined towards android. But first look the onl improvement is a heftier processor and improved battery life. Good enough reason to ditch the 4S?
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:06 PM, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting *"improvement"* in iOS6 multitasking http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/11/apple_enhances_ios_6_multitasking_...
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First read= Not impressed!!
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I agree with you @Okechukwu. Apple's selling point in future will no longer be on the quality of hardware but rather on the quality and capability of its software. Surveys indicate that Apple's App Store is expected to have more than 21 billion downloads by the end of 2012. This indicates a strong demand for mobile app content. At the end of the day, businesses compete to maintain and gain customers. Apple's App Store accounts for 25 % of available apps in all stores (from research by Gartner). The aim now, will be to use in-app purchase business models to convert casual app users into paying customers and then retain them with good user experience and continued product updates (furthermore, it is not practical for them to expect that the clients will always part with their hard-earned stash every time they release a new iPhone with features that are not revolutionary as compared to the devices they alreay have). This will ensure recurrent revenue streams (which churning out of new iPhones will not address) because popularity surges during release dates will eventually wane as innovation driven by the late Steve Jobs is expected to be difficult to maintain. Therefore, to sum it up, in-app(i.e. software) performance and design will now be the most important factor for apple when attracting new users and keeping them satisfied. Regards, Michael Marosi On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:
Apple did not show any significant change in iphone, mobile is quite important while nothing much happened save for a line of apps on the app drawer thanks to the height increase on the device and LTE ability on quite many bands(I wonder if that would work on our networks -stand corrected) . nothing changed design-wise over the last 3 phones. Apple devices working with each other is not a new thing and the fact that they are speaking about these just shows creativity has come to an end for Apple.
-----Original Message----- From: Okechukwu Sent: 13-09-2012, 07:10 To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with 4-inch Display and LTE
Tim Cook made a very interesting comment on why Apple is the leader: "What places Apple way ahead of the competition is how all these devices work so well together" - This is one comment non-Apple users will never understand, that's why u still looking for the wow factor. Then the website adds: "iPhone5. The biggest thing to happen to iPhone since iPhone"
Apparently, Apple strives to beat itself for every successive product. Someone even commented that the iPhone5 is so useless compared to the iPhone6 which will be slimmer, faster & more value!
For an Apple follower, this is definitely a getter!
./Ok3ch
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 12, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Nothing impressive about this one! Is it just me or is Apple slowly losing their 'swag'?
On 12 September 2012 22:46, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I am rather underwhelmed by this new iPhone. But then again maybe its because am more inclined towards android. But first look the onl improvement is a heftier processor and improved battery life. Good enough reason to ditch the 4S?
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:06 PM, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Interesting *"improvement"* in iOS6 multitasking http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/11/apple_enhances_ios_6_multitasking_...
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First read= Not impressed!!
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@Marosi, actually, app store downloads hit 25 billion in March this year http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012/03/05Apples-App-Store-Downloads-Top-25-.... Incredible milestone despite the fact that these apps are paid for (most of them). Sometimes I tend to think Apps (and by extension the underlying OS) heavily define the success of a mobile platform, and not hardware per se. Obunga On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Michael Marosi <michaelmarosi@gmail.com>wrote:
*Surveys indicate that Apple's App Store is expected to have more than 21 billion downloads by the end of 2012. *
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I think the iPhone 5 is an incredible phone. I don't want to compare it to the phablets that every Android maker seems to be churning these days. The iPhone 5 fits the profile of a phone that you can hold and operate comfortably. I think the thinner taller design is more suitable for phones that the wide 4.5" devices that seem to be the norm nowadays from the Android manufacturers. If you don't use Apple products, probably you can never see or even understand the value proposition of Apple. The just don;t sell one product, they sell an ecosystem. Where you are using an iPhone, iPad on Apple TV, you will experience a standard intuitive interface with all these devices. All the media, be it Apps, Music, Movies or TV Shows that you purchase on one device automatically appears on all these devices without any effort. If I buy a TV Show on my iPhone, when I get home, I will find it ready to watch on my Apple TV. I buy an App on my iPad, moments later it appears on my iPhone. So, for those looking for the wow factor in the iPhone 5, probably you are looking at the wrong place or you simply don't understand Apple and how they work. And better still, the iOS still remains one of the most solid mobile operating systems. The iTunes Store is also another reason why Apple thrives. The store accounts basically for almost 90% of all digital music sold in the world. And the factor that is works so seamlessly with all iOS devices makes it a major selling point for Apple devices. Google Play has a long way do go to ever be able compete with iTunes. The real competitors are actually Amazon and Walmart. Even with a lead in installation base, Android finds it hard to make the Play Store work. I am not saying that Android is not good at all, I believe they have come a long way. But along the way, they have also ceded too much ground to carriers and manufacturers that the Android experience is nothing but headache for most people. Also there is too much fragmentation of different Android versions. I was surprised to see even the newer Kindle Fire HD launched days ago will not even have the latest Android version. In the end, Android will become too big with too much fragmentation to work with and you will start to see companies like Amazon and Samsung actually looking to develop their own phone operating systems.
@Philip, @Okech I think you are missing the point. The issues here is not that anyone is discrediting the apple ecosystem, how good their products are or how well they integrate etc. The issue is that the iPhone 5 in itself has nothing new to offer. Nothing particularly new or innovative about it from the last 3 versions. The reason people wait for these keynotes is not so that you can tell them how similar things are from the last keynote but rather whats new this time round. And in that respect, this was quite underwhelming. -Billy 2012/9/13 Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>
I think the iPhone 5 is an incredible phone. I don't want to compare it to the phablets that every Android maker seems to be churning these days.
The iPhone 5 fits the profile of a phone that you can hold and operate comfortably. I think the thinner taller design is more suitable for phones that the wide 4.5" devices that seem to be the norm nowadays from the Android manufacturers.
If you don't use Apple products, probably you can never see or even understand the value proposition of Apple. The just don;t sell one product, they sell an ecosystem. Where you are using an iPhone, iPad on Apple TV, you will experience a standard intuitive interface with all these devices.
All the media, be it Apps, Music, Movies or TV Shows that you purchase on one device automatically appears on all these devices without any effort. If I buy a TV Show on my iPhone, when I get home, I will find it ready to watch on my Apple TV. I buy an App on my iPad, moments later it appears on my iPhone.
So, for those looking for the wow factor in the iPhone 5, probably you are looking at the wrong place or you simply don't understand Apple and how they work.
And better still, the iOS still remains one of the most solid mobile operating systems.
The iTunes Store is also another reason why Apple thrives. The store accounts basically for almost 90% of all digital music sold in the world. And the factor that is works so seamlessly with all iOS devices makes it a major selling point for Apple devices. Google Play has a long way do go to ever be able compete with iTunes. The real competitors are actually Amazon and Walmart. Even with a lead in installation base, Android finds it hard to make the Play Store work.
I am not saying that Android is not good at all, I believe they have come a long way. But along the way, they have also ceded too much ground to carriers and manufacturers that the Android experience is nothing but headache for most people. Also there is too much fragmentation of different Android versions. I was surprised to see even the newer Kindle Fire HD launched days ago will not even have the latest Android version. In the end, Android will become too big with too much fragmentation to work with and you will start to see companies like Amazon and Samsung actually looking to develop their own phone operating systems.
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@Billy, I believe the iPhone 5 has LTE, a more advance camera sensor, a more powerful A6 processor, a larger 4" retina display and extended battery life. Those are few things the new iPhone has to offer compared to the iPhone 4S.
the real innovations happen in the second iteration of a generation, So ill happily wait for 5S. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Billy,
I believe the iPhone 5 has LTE, a more advance camera sensor, a more powerful A6 processor, a larger 4" retina display and extended battery life.
Those are few things the new iPhone has to offer compared to the iPhone 4S.
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Phillip, Yes those upgrades are there... But they were always expected. We're just disappointed that there is nothing completely new in this one. A faster processor may be good 2years from now. But as of today, iPhone 4S speed hasn't been one of the issues. Perhaps Apple needs a new OS altogether. Because when I watch the video of iPhone5, for a second I think it's the iPhone4S or even 4 if not for the retina display. Bottom line: very underwhelmed. - Albert Mucunguzi Founder/Executive Director PC Tech Magazine Web: www.pctechmagazine.com Blog: www.almuc.me Twitter: @albertmuc / @pctechmagazine Skype: albertmucunguzi G+, GTalk: i@almuc.me Sent from my iPhone 4S On Sep 13, 2012, at 9:47, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Billy,
I believe the iPhone 5 has LTE, a more advance camera sensor, a more powerful A6 processor, a larger 4" retina display and extended battery life.
Those are few things the new iPhone has to offer compared to the iPhone 4S.
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If I may jump in here, you are not getting @Billy's point. The stuff you have mentioned is not new to the public and not exactly innovative. Revealing that iPhone 5 has LTE or a 4" screen does not leave you at the edge of your seat and its certainly note innovative to come up with a 4" screen. Personally I think the Apple has now flamed out as far as innovative ideas comes in. Steve
@Billy,
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So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5? If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry. I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run. But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note. Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then?
Yes yes and apple cares very very much what we all think:-) Most of these improvements we want are not targeted at us, most Asian/American/American carriers are very feature conservative. By the time we have lte they'll probably be at iPhone 6 Sent from my iPad On 13 Sep 2012, at 10:24, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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As far as innovation is concerned, they have nothing new! Those arguing about the ecosystem have clearly missed the point because 4S is already well-integrated! Think about it this way, what will you miss by not upgrading from your current 4s to 5? In my opinion, NOTHING! No one had issues with 4S's speed....no one really cares whether the screen is hd display,retina or something more powerful...after all, a phone is not meant for watching movies. One last thing, 4S's camera was good enough! :) I will happily retain my current device! On 13 September 2012 03:24, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then?
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Maybe the iPhone 5 (why not The New iPhone?) will change this<http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/young-adults-and-teens-lead-growth-among-smartphone-owners/> trend On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as innovation is concerned, they have nothing new! Those arguing about the ecosystem have clearly missed the point because 4S is already well-integrated! Think about it this way, what will you miss by not upgrading from your current 4s to 5? In my opinion, NOTHING! No one had issues with 4S's speed....no one really cares whether the screen is hd display,retina or something more powerful...after all, a phone is not meant for watching movies. One last thing, 4S's camera was good enough! :) I will happily retain my current device!
On 13 September 2012 03:24, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then?
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@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up? Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have run out of ideas. Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth. All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again. iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget. Anyhow unto each his own. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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This article from TechChrunch explains best Apple's iPhone strategy: http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/13/the-iphone-5-event/
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only? ./Ok3ch On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this
is
not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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@Martin - biggest problem is that we never become objective enough to really discuss especially when it comes to Apple. I think its lame to say the Galaxy SIII is a bad phone simple because u love an iPhone and vice versa, but getting an objective look at something, especially from Apple, is not always easy especially with the extreme love & hate that there is. ./Ok3ch On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:
Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Okech is a cultist - Apple cult! iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new. Put it your own way; your own analogy. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:
Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they
have
run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for 120,000kshs. if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852 Don't ask me about how genuine it is. call if you are willing to take the risk! Zuhair From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:33 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with 4-inch Display and LTE Okech is a cultist - Apple cult! iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new. Put it your own way; your own analogy. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote: Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only? ./Ok3ch On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they
have
run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for 120,000kshs… if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852****
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Don’t ask me about how genuine it is… call if you are willing to take the risk!****
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Okech is a cultist - Apple cult!
iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new.
Put it your own way; your own analogy.
****
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:****
Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors.****
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On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:** **
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch****
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this
is
not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my laptop :-) & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too! ./Ok3ch On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
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Okech is a cultist - Apple cult!
iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new.
Put it your own way; your own analogy.
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On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:****
Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors.****
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On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:* ***
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch****
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they
have
run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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I think what Apple gets is the power of the sub conscious. The conscious mind sees a slightly pimped 4S but the subconscious will take in alot more once the phone is in your hand. I believe them when they say they change as little as possible because it already works as it is. the fine refinements in design and subtle changes will be noticed by the sub-conscious way before the conscious mind catches on. The realization that the phone is awesome when you hold it is what pushes you to buy the damn thing every year. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my laptop :-) & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too!
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
:-)
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke>wrote:
Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for 120,000kshs… if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852****
** **
Don’t ask me about how genuine it is… call if you are willing to take the risk!****
Zuhair****
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Odhiambo Washington *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:33 PM
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Okech is a cultist - Apple cult!
iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new.
Put it your own way; your own analogy.
****
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:****
Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors.****
** **
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: ****
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch****
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they
have
run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Mark, +1 On 13 September 2012 21:45, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think what Apple gets is the power of the sub conscious. The conscious mind sees a slightly pimped 4S but the subconscious will take in alot more once the phone is in your hand. I believe them when they say they change as little as possible because it already works as it is. the fine refinements in design and subtle changes will be noticed by the sub-conscious way before the conscious mind catches on. The realization that the phone is awesome when you hold it is what pushes you to buy the damn thing every year.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my laptop :-) & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too!
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
:-)
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke>wrote:
Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for 120,000kshs… if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852****
** **
Don’t ask me about how genuine it is… call if you are willing to take the risk!****
Zuhair****
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Odhiambo Washington *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:33 PM
*To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with 4-inch Display and LTE****
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Okech is a cultist - Apple cult!
iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new.
Put it your own way; your own analogy.
****
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:****
Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors.****
** **
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:****
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch****
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would
rather
have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
> So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include > in > the iPhone 5? > > If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any > new > device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, > it > was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple > felt > it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the > first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power > efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running > to > the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. > That > did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact > they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling > products in the phone industry. > > I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a > fad > and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long > run. > > But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you > feel underwhelmed or note. > > Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both > Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. > Could Apple be so wrong then? > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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I agree in part with what Mark says, but I'll ass on and say that Apple has done a great job of priming consumers to want their products just for the fact that it is an Apple product (full disclosure, I am a fan and have an iPhone and iPad) Case in point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=player_embedded I personally go for upgrades every 3 years as there are not sufficient revolutionary hardware changes to the device to warrant an annual upgrade. These devices are largely driven by the software changes and upgrades. On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
+1
On 13 September 2012 21:45, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think what Apple gets is the power of the sub conscious. The conscious mind sees a slightly pimped 4S but the subconscious will take in alot more once the phone is in your hand. I believe them when they say they change as little as possible because it already works as it is. the fine refinements in design and subtle changes will be noticed by the sub-conscious way before the conscious mind catches on. The realization that the phone is awesome when you hold it is what pushes you to buy the damn thing every year.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my laptop :-) & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too!
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
:-)
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Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for 120,000kshs… if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852****
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Okech is a cultist - Apple cult!
iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new.
Put it your own way; your own analogy.
****
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:****
Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors.****
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On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:****
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch****
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote: > > @Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather > have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. > Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing > catch up? > > Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have > run out of ideas. > > Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is > not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy > Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming > a behemoth. > > All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple > needs to find its creative spark once again. > > iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem > > you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices > and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices > alone > > Steve > > > So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include > > in > > the iPhone 5? > > > > If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any > > new > > device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, > > it > > was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple > > felt > > it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the > > first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power > > efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running > > to > > the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. > > That > > did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact > > they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling > > products in the phone industry. > > > > I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a > > fad > > and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long > > run. > > > > But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you > > feel underwhelmed or note. > > > > Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both > > Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. > > Could Apple be so wrong then? > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > ------------ > > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Numbers don't lie - 2 million pre-orders with the first 24 hours, and the queues are predicted to be longer come Friday! ./Ok3ch Sent from my iPad On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Kenneth Njendu <knjendu@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree in part with what Mark says, but I'll ass on and say that Apple has done a great job of priming consumers to want their products just for the fact that it is an Apple product (full disclosure, I am a fan and have an iPhone and iPad) Case in point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=player_embedded I personally go for upgrades every 3 years as there are not sufficient revolutionary hardware changes to the device to warrant an annual upgrade. These devices are largely driven by the software changes and upgrades.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote: Mark,
+1
On 13 September 2012 21:45, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: I think what Apple gets is the power of the sub conscious. The conscious mind sees a slightly pimped 4S but the subconscious will take in alot more once the phone is in your hand. I believe them when they say they change as little as possible because it already works as it is. the fine refinements in design and subtle changes will be noticed by the sub-conscious way before the conscious mind catches on. The realization that the phone is awesome when you hold it is what pushes you to buy the damn thing every year.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my laptop :-) & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too!
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: :-)
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote: Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for 120,000kshs… if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852
Don’t ask me about how genuine it is… call if you are willing to take the risk!
Zuhair
From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:33 PM
To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with 4-inch Display and LTE
Okech is a cultist - Apple cult!
iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new.
Put it your own way; your own analogy.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:
Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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The phone will be the most successful phone yet. It doesn't take a genius. The level of trust accorded to Apple is impressive. On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Numbers don't lie - 2 million pre-orders with the first 24 hours, and the queues are predicted to be longer come Friday!
./Ok3ch
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Kenneth Njendu <knjendu@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree in part with what Mark says, but I'll ass on and say that Apple has done a great job of priming consumers to want their products just for the fact that it is an Apple product (full disclosure, I am a fan and have an iPhone and iPad) Case in point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=player_embedded I personally go for upgrades every 3 years as there are not sufficient revolutionary hardware changes to the device to warrant an annual upgrade. These devices are largely driven by the software changes and upgrades.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
+1
On 13 September 2012 21:45, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think what Apple gets is the power of the sub conscious. The conscious mind sees a slightly pimped 4S but the subconscious will take in alot more once the phone is in your hand. I believe them when they say they change as little as possible because it already works as it is. the fine refinements in design and subtle changes will be noticed by the sub-conscious way before the conscious mind catches on. The realization that the phone is awesome when you hold it is what pushes you to buy the damn thing every year.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my laptop :-) & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too!
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
:-)
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, zuhair jaffer < zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for 120,000kshs… if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852****
** **
Don’t ask me about how genuine it is… call if you are willing to take the risk!****
Zuhair****
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Odhiambo Washington *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:33 PM
*To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with 4-inch Display and LTE****
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Okech is a cultist - Apple cult!
iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new.
Put it your own way; your own analogy.
****
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:****
Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors.****
** **
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:****
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch****
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: > I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the > screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever > release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 > will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call > home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. > The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your > phone/gadget. > > Anyhow unto each his own. > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote: >> >> @Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather >> have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. >> Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing >> catch up? >> >> Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have >> run out of ideas. >> >> Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is >> not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy >> Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming >> a behemoth. >> >> All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple >> needs to find its creative spark once again. >> >> iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem >> >> you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices >> and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices >> alone >> >> Steve >> >> > So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include >> > in >> > the iPhone 5? >> > >> > If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any >> > new >> > device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, >> > it >> > was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple >> > felt >> > it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the >> > first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power >> > efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running >> > to >> > the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. >> > That >> > did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact >> > they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling >> > products in the phone industry. >> > >> > I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a >> > fad >> > and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long >> > run. >> > >> > But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you >> > feel underwhelmed or note. >> > >> > Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both >> > Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. >> > Could Apple be so wrong then? >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > ------------ >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Mark Mwangi > > markmwangi.me.ke > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Mark, can you be quoted on this? Coz I see Samsung still pushing numbers, eating Apple fodder. They have already done 20million devices plus. On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The phone will be the most successful phone yet. It doesn't take a genius. The level of trust accorded to Apple is impressive.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Numbers don't lie - 2 million pre-orders with the first 24 hours, and the queues are predicted to be longer come Friday!
./Ok3ch
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On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Kenneth Njendu <knjendu@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree in part with what Mark says, but I'll ass on and say that Apple has done a great job of priming consumers to want their products just for the fact that it is an Apple product (full disclosure, I am a fan and have an iPhone and iPad) Case in point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=player_embedded I personally go for upgrades every 3 years as there are not sufficient revolutionary hardware changes to the device to warrant an annual upgrade. These devices are largely driven by the software changes and upgrades.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
+1
On 13 September 2012 21:45, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think what Apple gets is the power of the sub conscious. The conscious mind sees a slightly pimped 4S but the subconscious will take in alot more once the phone is in your hand. I believe them when they say they change as little as possible because it already works as it is. the fine refinements in design and subtle changes will be noticed by the sub-conscious way before the conscious mind catches on. The realization that the phone is awesome when you hold it is what pushes you to buy the damn thing every year.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my laptop :-) & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too!
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
:-)
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, zuhair jaffer < zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
> Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for 120,000kshs… > if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852**** > > ** ** > > Don’t ask me about how genuine it is… call if you are willing to > take the risk!**** > > Zuhair**** > > *From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: > skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Odhiambo > Washington > *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:33 PM > > *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List > *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with 4-inch > Display and LTE**** > > ** ** > > Okech is a cultist - Apple cult! > > > iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but > they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new. > > Put it your own way; your own analogy. > > **** > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru < > martin@techweez.com> wrote:**** > > Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to > prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as > the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the > predecessors.**** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> > wrote:**** > > I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best > for > the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. > Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in > the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you > think they want! > The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you > imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the > Ericsson T29 only? > > > ./Ok3ch**** > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially > the > > screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple > after ever > > release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that > the iPhone 5 > > will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are > anything to call > > home about but something has to be said about reliability and > consistency. > > The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over > your > > phone/gadget. > > > > Anyhow unto each his own. > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> > wrote: > >> > >> @Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would > rather > >> have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole > point. > >> Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others > playing > >> catch up? > >> > >> Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly > they have > >> run out of ideas. > >> > >> Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. > Again this is > >> not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how > crappy > >> Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from > becoming > >> a behemoth. > >> > >> All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming > and Apple > >> needs to find its creative spark once again. > >> > >> iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem > >> > >> you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to > Windows devices > >> and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple > devices > >> alone > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> > So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple > include > >> > in > >> > the iPhone 5? > >> > > >> > If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech > in any > >> > new > >> > device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced > in 2007, > >> > it > >> > was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. > The Apple > >> > felt > >> > it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the > iPhone, so the > >> > first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed > and power > >> > efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was > running > >> > to > >> > the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their > devices. > >> > That > >> > did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a > failure. In fact > >> > they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast > selling > >> > products in the phone industry. > >> > > >> > I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is > just a > >> > fad > >> > and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the > long > >> > run. > >> > > >> > But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, > whether you > >> > feel underwhelmed or note. > >> > > >> > Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum > of both > >> > Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for > themselves. > >> > Could Apple be so wrong then? > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Skunkworks mailing list > >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> > ------------ > >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> > ------------ > >> > > >> > Skunkworks Rules > >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> > ------------ > >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> ------------ > >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Mark Mwangi > > > > markmwangi.me.ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > ------------ > > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- **** > > Regards,**** > > Martin Gicheru|Business Development|Techweez Solutions**** > > Email ID: martin@techweez.com | Tel:254721906171 | Website: > http://www.techweez.com |**** > > Skype ID: martingicheru | Twitter ID:martingicheru | Gtalk: > martin@techweez.com**** > > ** ** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke**** > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.**** > > [image: e1_offer] > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only > for the individual named. 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@martin and yet the iPhone has sold 2million plus phones already virtually. The S3 has been in the market for 4 months now. Should we compare in four months time? On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:
Mark, can you be quoted on this? Coz I see Samsung still pushing numbers, eating Apple fodder. They have already done 20million devices plus.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The phone will be the most successful phone yet. It doesn't take a genius. The level of trust accorded to Apple is impressive.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Numbers don't lie - 2 million pre-orders with the first 24 hours, and the queues are predicted to be longer come Friday!
./Ok3ch
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Kenneth Njendu <knjendu@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree in part with what Mark says, but I'll ass on and say that Apple has done a great job of priming consumers to want their products just for the fact that it is an Apple product (full disclosure, I am a fan and have an iPhone and iPad) Case in point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=player_embedded I personally go for upgrades every 3 years as there are not sufficient revolutionary hardware changes to the device to warrant an annual upgrade. These devices are largely driven by the software changes and upgrades.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
+1
On 13 September 2012 21:45, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think what Apple gets is the power of the sub conscious. The conscious mind sees a slightly pimped 4S but the subconscious will take in alot more once the phone is in your hand. I believe them when they say they change as little as possible because it already works as it is. the fine refinements in design and subtle changes will be noticed by the sub-conscious way before the conscious mind catches on. The realization that the phone is awesome when you hold it is what pushes you to buy the damn thing every year.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>wrote:
I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my laptop :-) & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too!
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
> :-) > > > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, zuhair jaffer < > zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote: > >> Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for >> 120,000kshs… if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Don’t ask me about how genuine it is… call if you are willing to >> take the risk!**** >> >> Zuhair**** >> >> *From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: >> skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Odhiambo >> Washington >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:33 PM >> >> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List >> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with 4-inch >> Display and LTE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Okech is a cultist - Apple cult! >> >> >> iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but >> they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new. >> >> Put it your own way; your own analogy. >> >> **** >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru < >> martin@techweez.com> wrote:**** >> >> Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to >> prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as >> the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the >> predecessors.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> >> wrote:**** >> >> I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best >> for >> the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. >> Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in >> the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you >> think they want! >> The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you >> imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the >> Ericsson T29 only? >> >> >> ./Ok3ch**** >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > I love the refinement that goes into apple products and >> especially the >> > screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple >> after ever >> > release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that >> the iPhone 5 >> > will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are >> anything to call >> > home about but something has to be said about reliability and >> consistency. >> > The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over >> your >> > phone/gadget. >> > >> > Anyhow unto each his own. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard < >> steve@sobbayi.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> @Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would >> rather >> >> have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole >> point. >> >> Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others >> playing >> >> catch up? >> >> >> >> Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly >> they have >> >> run out of ideas. >> >> >> >> Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. >> Again this is >> >> not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how >> crappy >> >> Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from >> becoming >> >> a behemoth. >> >> >> >> All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming >> and Apple >> >> needs to find its creative spark once again. >> >> >> >> iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem >> >> >> >> you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to >> Windows devices >> >> and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple >> devices >> >> alone >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> > So what's new to the public and you would rather have had >> Apple include >> >> > in >> >> > the iPhone 5? >> >> > >> >> > If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech >> in any >> >> > new >> >> > device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced >> in 2007, >> >> > it >> >> > was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. >> The Apple >> >> > felt >> >> > it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the >> iPhone, so the >> >> > first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed >> and power >> >> > efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was >> running >> >> > to >> >> > the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their >> devices. >> >> > That >> >> > did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a >> failure. In fact >> >> > they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast >> selling >> >> > products in the phone industry. >> >> > >> >> > I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this >> is just a >> >> > fad >> >> > and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in >> the long >> >> > run. >> >> > >> >> > But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, >> whether you >> >> > feel underwhelmed or note. >> >> > >> >> > Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total >> sum of both >> >> > Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for >> themselves. >> >> > Could Apple be so wrong then? >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> > ------------ >> >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> > ------------ >> >> > >> >> > Skunkworks Rules >> >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >> > ------------ >> >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Skunkworks mailing list >> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> ------------ >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> ------------ >> >> >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >> ------------ >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > >> > Mark Mwangi >> > >> > markmwangi.me.ke >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > ------------ >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke**** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- **** >> >> Regards,**** >> >> Martin Gicheru|Business Development|Techweez Solutions**** >> >> Email ID: martin@techweez.com | Tel:254721906171 | Website: >> http://www.techweez.com |**** >> >> Skype ID: martingicheru | Twitter ID:martingicheru | Gtalk: >> martin@techweez.com**** >> >> ** ** >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke**** >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.**** >> >> [image: e1_offer] >> >> This message contains confidential information and is intended only >> for the individual named. 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Yeah, sure! On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
@martin and yet the iPhone has sold 2million plus phones already virtually. The S3 has been in the market for 4 months now. Should we compare in four months time?
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:
Mark, can you be quoted on this? Coz I see Samsung still pushing numbers, eating Apple fodder. They have already done 20million devices plus.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The phone will be the most successful phone yet. It doesn't take a genius. The level of trust accorded to Apple is impressive.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Numbers don't lie - 2 million pre-orders with the first 24 hours, and the queues are predicted to be longer come Friday!
./Ok3ch
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Kenneth Njendu <knjendu@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree in part with what Mark says, but I'll ass on and say that Apple has done a great job of priming consumers to want their products just for the fact that it is an Apple product (full disclosure, I am a fan and have an iPhone and iPad) Case in point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=player_embedded I personally go for upgrades every 3 years as there are not sufficient revolutionary hardware changes to the device to warrant an annual upgrade. These devices are largely driven by the software changes and upgrades.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com>wrote:
Mark,
+1
On 13 September 2012 21:45, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think what Apple gets is the power of the sub conscious. The conscious mind sees a slightly pimped 4S but the subconscious will take in alot more once the phone is in your hand. I believe them when they say they change as little as possible because it already works as it is. the fine refinements in design and subtle changes will be noticed by the sub-conscious way before the conscious mind catches on. The realization that the phone is awesome when you hold it is what pushes you to buy the damn thing every year.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>wrote:
> I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me > away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop > (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my > laptop :-) > & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too! > > ./Ok3ch > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington < > odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, zuhair jaffer < >> zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for >>> 120,000kshs… if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Don’t ask me about how genuine it is… call if you are willing to >>> take the risk!**** >>> >>> Zuhair**** >>> >>> *From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: >>> skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Odhiambo >>> Washington >>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:33 PM >>> >>> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List >>> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with >>> 4-inch Display and LTE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Okech is a cultist - Apple cult! >>> >>> >>> iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but >>> they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new. >>> >>> Put it your own way; your own analogy. >>> >>> **** >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru < >>> martin@techweez.com> wrote:**** >>> >>> Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to >>> prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as >>> the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the >>> predecessors.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> >>> wrote:**** >>> >>> I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best >>> for >>> the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. >>> Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in >>> the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you >>> think they want! >>> The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you >>> imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the >>> Ericsson T29 only? >>> >>> >>> ./Ok3ch**** >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > I love the refinement that goes into apple products and >>> especially the >>> > screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple >>> after ever >>> > release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that >>> the iPhone 5 >>> > will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are >>> anything to call >>> > home about but something has to be said about reliability and >>> consistency. >>> > The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over >>> your >>> > phone/gadget. >>> > >>> > Anyhow unto each his own. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard < >>> steve@sobbayi.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> @Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would >>> rather >>> >> have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole >>> point. >>> >> Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others >>> playing >>> >> catch up? >>> >> >>> >> Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly >>> they have >>> >> run out of ideas. >>> >> >>> >> Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. >>> Again this is >>> >> not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how >>> crappy >>> >> Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft >>> from becoming >>> >> a behemoth. >>> >> >>> >> All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming >>> and Apple >>> >> needs to find its creative spark once again. >>> >> >>> >> iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem >>> >> >>> >> you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to >>> Windows devices >>> >> and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple >>> devices >>> >> alone >>> >> >>> >> Steve >>> >> >>> >> > So what's new to the public and you would rather have had >>> Apple include >>> >> > in >>> >> > the iPhone 5? >>> >> > >>> >> > If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new >>> tech in any >>> >> > new >>> >> > device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was >>> introduced in 2007, >>> >> > it >>> >> > was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. >>> The Apple >>> >> > felt >>> >> > it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the >>> iPhone, so the >>> >> > first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed >>> and power >>> >> > efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung >>> was running >>> >> > to >>> >> > the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their >>> devices. >>> >> > That >>> >> > did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a >>> failure. In fact >>> >> > they went on to be become some of the most profitable and >>> fast selling >>> >> > products in the phone industry. >>> >> > >>> >> > I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this >>> is just a >>> >> > fad >>> >> > and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in >>> the long >>> >> > run. >>> >> > >>> >> > But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, >>> whether you >>> >> > feel underwhelmed or note. >>> >> > >>> >> > Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total >>> sum of both >>> >> > Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for >>> themselves. >>> >> > Could Apple be so wrong then? >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > Skunkworks mailing list >>> >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> >> > ------------ >>> >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> > ------------ >>> >> > >>> >> > Skunkworks Rules >>> >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> >> > ------------ >>> >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Skunkworks mailing list >>> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> >> ------------ >>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> ------------ >>> >> >>> >> Skunkworks Rules >>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> >> ------------ >>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Regards, >>> > >>> > Mark Mwangi >>> > >>> > markmwangi.me.ke >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> > ------------ >>> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> > ------------ >>> > >>> > Skunkworks Rules >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> > ------------ >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke**** >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> -- **** >>> >>> Regards,**** >>> >>> Martin Gicheru|Business Development|Techweez Solutions**** >>> >>> Email ID: martin@techweez.com | Tel:254721906171 | Website: >>> http://www.techweez.com |**** >>> >>> Skype ID: martingicheru | Twitter ID:martingicheru | Gtalk: >>> martin@techweez.com**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke**** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.**** >>> >>> [image: e1_offer] >>> >>> This message contains confidential information and is intended >>> only for the individual named. 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Do i want an iphone 5? No thanks ill wait for 5s, do i want a samsung? HELL NO! But do i want a samsung smart tv? Ummmnh, emmmmnh Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:23 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:
Yeah, sure!
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: @martin and yet the iPhone has sold 2million plus phones already virtually. The S3 has been in the market for 4 months now. Should we compare in four months time?
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote: Mark, can you be quoted on this? Coz I see Samsung still pushing numbers, eating Apple fodder. They have already done 20million devices plus.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: The phone will be the most successful phone yet. It doesn't take a genius. The level of trust accorded to Apple is impressive.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: Numbers don't lie - 2 million pre-orders with the first 24 hours, and the queues are predicted to be longer come Friday!
./Ok3ch
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Kenneth Njendu <knjendu@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree in part with what Mark says, but I'll ass on and say that Apple has done a great job of priming consumers to want their products just for the fact that it is an Apple product (full disclosure, I am a fan and have an iPhone and iPad) Case in point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=player_embedded I personally go for upgrades every 3 years as there are not sufficient revolutionary hardware changes to the device to warrant an annual upgrade. These devices are largely driven by the software changes and upgrades.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote: Mark,
+1
On 13 September 2012 21:45, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: I think what Apple gets is the power of the sub conscious. The conscious mind sees a slightly pimped 4S but the subconscious will take in alot more once the phone is in your hand. I believe them when they say they change as little as possible because it already works as it is. the fine refinements in design and subtle changes will be noticed by the sub-conscious way before the conscious mind catches on. The realization that the phone is awesome when you hold it is what pushes you to buy the damn thing every year.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my laptop :-) & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too!
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: :-)
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Okech is a cultist - Apple cult!
iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new.
Put it your own way; your own analogy.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:
Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total sum of both Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for themselves. Could Apple be so wrong then? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Samsung Galaxy S III has sold about 20 million phones in around 4 months. The iPhone 5 will see than in the first 2 weeks. If you have an iPhone 4S, probably there is no need to upgrade to iPhone 5, you can wait until next year for a refreshed iPhone 5S or whatever it will be called. But the timing for iPhone 5 is perfect for most people who bought the iPhone 3GS 3 years ago. Majority of non-new buyers will be upgrading from the iPhone 3GS and some from iPhone 4. Samsung is still not yet at a stage where they can compete with Apple. It will take sometime if that will ever happen. But I am not saying Samsung products are not good, I believe they have some of the best Android devices out there. The truth is just Samsung and Android can't just compete with Apple. Samsung has a lead of devices sold, but Apple has a lead on the profits, in fact like 70% of all smart-phone profits go to Apple. These are the metrics that matter. It is just like how GM sometimes ago had the largest revenue but zero profits. Revenue leads nowhere, profits do. And Samsung is the kind of revenue and units sold.
Interesting to note that Samsung Galaxy S4 is slated for March next year with a 5-inch display, what's your take on that? Are phones becoming bigger or they should be getting smaller? Personally was happy with the 3.5 inch display of the 4S & they reason I will do an iPhone 5 has nothing to do with the screen but just an upgrade ./Ok3ch Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Samsung Galaxy S III has sold about 20 million phones in around 4 months.
The iPhone 5 will see than in the first 2 weeks.
If you have an iPhone 4S, probably there is no need to upgrade to iPhone 5, you can wait until next year for a refreshed iPhone 5S or whatever it will be called.
But the timing for iPhone 5 is perfect for most people who bought the iPhone 3GS 3 years ago. Majority of non-new buyers will be upgrading from the iPhone 3GS and some from iPhone 4.
Samsung is still not yet at a stage where they can compete with Apple. It will take sometime if that will ever happen. But I am not saying Samsung products are not good, I believe they have some of the best Android devices out there. The truth is just Samsung and Android can't just compete with Apple. Samsung has a lead of devices sold, but Apple has a lead on the profits, in fact like 70% of all smart-phone profits go to Apple. These are the metrics that matter. It is just like how GM sometimes ago had the largest revenue but zero profits. Revenue leads nowhere, profits do. And Samsung is the kind of revenue and units sold.
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Yes, iPhone 5 has nothing much to offer than OS upgrade which will naturally come to predecessors, one extra line of icons and panorama as a preinstalled function in camera. As for screen size, we have seen gradual move of the mobile phone being a productivity device as opposed to communication cum plaything. Something Samsung is trying to bring out with the Note range and bigger Galaxy phones. To add on that there is a C pen for the Galaxy S 3 and other screens that arent built for stylus. This means that you developers need to focus more on productivity apps more. This will be the focus point for future large screen smartphones and tablets. You all migh know by now that Samsung does product releases for .ke on a smartphone projected wirelessly to all screens in the room, no need for a projector. More processing power, storage and RAM means more work can be done. Samsung has already started mass producing 128GB chips for devices to come pre-installed with (see how that compares with an Ultrabook). Now if I am able to project a presentation or application on my 32" tv wirelessly at home, get a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, I can work at home or in the hotel. It's just about presenting the user with myraid of options. P.S I was just about to write a blog post about the 128GB story, but I have talked about it here instead. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting to note that Samsung Galaxy S4 is slated for March next year with a 5-inch display, what's your take on that? Are phones becoming bigger or they should be getting smaller? Personally was happy with the 3.5 inch display of the 4S & they reason I will do an iPhone 5 has nothing to do with the screen but just an upgrade
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Samsung Galaxy S III has sold about 20 million phones in around 4 months.
The iPhone 5 will see than in the first 2 weeks.
If you have an iPhone 4S, probably there is no need to upgrade to iPhone 5, you can wait until next year for a refreshed iPhone 5S or whatever it will be called.
But the timing for iPhone 5 is perfect for most people who bought the iPhone 3GS 3 years ago. Majority of non-new buyers will be upgrading from the iPhone 3GS and some from iPhone 4.
Samsung is still not yet at a stage where they can compete with Apple. It will take sometime if that will ever happen. But I am not saying Samsung products are not good, I believe they have some of the best Android devices out there. The truth is just Samsung and Android can't just compete with Apple. Samsung has a lead of devices sold, but Apple has a lead on the profits, in fact like 70% of all smart-phone profits go to Apple. These are the metrics that matter. It is just like how GM sometimes ago had the largest revenue but zero profits. Revenue leads nowhere, profits do. And Samsung is the kind of revenue and units sold.
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@Martin, As you noticed, the thread is about iPhone 5 and not Samsung Galaxy S III. If we wanted to compare features, we would just to to gsmarena.
HEHE @martin the bells and whistles on the Galaxy S3 are all nice and dandy but so long as the iPhone exists anything else will e compared to it. Every year iphone killers come out with "killer" features but Apple banks all the profit. Allow me to digress but we have a similar phenomenon locally i.e the Safaricom vs the rest. Every other player comes with morbid death threats only for Safaricoms profits to grow the next quarter. Ignoring that they are actually good at what they do as opposed to just yapping about it fuels the detriment of the competitors product. As Sunny Bindra asked on twitter, Are you selling a gadget or an experience? Listing specs or showing how my life will be better with the phone? On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Martin,
As you noticed, the thread is about iPhone 5 and not Samsung Galaxy S III.
If we wanted to compare features, we would just to to gsmarena.
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@Musyoki, how kind of you to remind me that there exists GSM Arena, last time I checked, you cannot mention a flagship phone from the mobile giant without a mention of a rival, just like mentioning Safaricom without an angle popping about Airtlel or Orange, so this was bound to occur naturally. And as Mwangi after you just mentioned, there is more to mobility than the features, there is experience, opinions, perception, brainwash, bias and all the words you can add after this. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
HEHE @martin the bells and whistles on the Galaxy S3 are all nice and dandy but so long as the iPhone exists anything else will e compared to it. Every year iphone killers come out with "killer" features but Apple banks all the profit.
Allow me to digress but we have a similar phenomenon locally i.e the Safaricom vs the rest. Every other player comes with morbid death threats only for Safaricoms profits to grow the next quarter. Ignoring that they are actually good at what they do as opposed to just yapping about it fuels the detriment of the competitors product.
As Sunny Bindra asked on twitter, Are you selling a gadget or an experience? Listing specs or showing how my life will be better with the phone?
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
@Martin,
As you noticed, the thread is about iPhone 5 and not Samsung Galaxy S III.
If we wanted to compare features, we would just to to gsmarena.
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@Martin, What Mark is saying is that Apple actually doesn't really sell a product, but rather a lifestyle. And the iPhone is just a small part of that lifestyle Apple sells. If you call it brainwash, so be it. Actually most iPhone users don't even care about the features and specs, and Apple hardly dwells on it. For all they care, the phone can have a slower processor than competitors but the overall experience is still better. Apple sells coolness.
@Martin, http://techland.time.com/2012/09/17/why-its-unnecessary-to-completely-reinve... This probably explains what everyone has been trying to say in a better way. Why Apple doesn't need to re-invent the iPhone every year.
@Bwana Lawi, We were discussing whether Apple sells more phones outside the US or in the US. The issues of which smart phone OS has the largest share in US never arose.
How do you even start comparing android O.S with iOS?? That's just ridiculous! For all the samsung fans, SIZE doesn't matter! The content of the O.S and quality of hardware is the one that matters at the end of the day! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Okechukwu* Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with 4-inch Display and LTE To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Interesting to note that Samsung Galaxy S4 is slated for March next year with a 5-inch display, what's your take on that? Are phones becoming bigger or they should be getting smaller? Personally was happy with the 3.5 inch display of the 4S & they reason I will do an iPhone 5 has nothing to do with the screen but just an upgrade ./Ok3ch Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com<javascript:;>> wrote:
Samsung Galaxy S III has sold about 20 million phones in around 4 months.
The iPhone 5 will see than in the first 2 weeks.
If you have an iPhone 4S, probably there is no need to upgrade to iPhone 5, you can wait until next year for a refreshed iPhone 5S or whatever it will be called.
But the timing for iPhone 5 is perfect for most people who bought the iPhone 3GS 3 years ago. Majority of non-new buyers will be upgrading from the iPhone 3GS and some from iPhone 4.
Samsung is still not yet at a stage where they can compete with Apple. It will take sometime if that will ever happen. But I am not saying Samsung products are not good, I believe they have some of the best Android devices out there. The truth is just Samsung and Android can't just compete with Apple. Samsung has a lead of devices sold, but Apple has a lead on the profits, in fact like 70% of all smart-phone profits go to Apple. These are the metrics that matter. It is just like how GM sometimes ago had the largest revenue but zero profits. Revenue leads nowhere, profits do. And Samsung is the kind of revenue and units sold.
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Interesting to note that Samsung Galaxy S4 is slated for March next year with a 5-inch display, what's your take on that? Are phones becoming bigger or they should be getting smaller? Personally was happy with the 3.5 inch display of the 4S & they reason I will do an iPhone 5 has nothing to do with the screen but just an upgrade
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On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Samsung Galaxy S III has sold about 20 million phones in around 4 months.
The iPhone 5 will see than in the first 2 weeks.
If you have an iPhone 4S, probably there is no need to upgrade to iPhone 5, you can wait until next year for a refreshed iPhone 5S or whatever it will be called.
But the timing for iPhone 5 is perfect for most people who bought the iPhone 3GS 3 years ago. Majority of non-new buyers will be upgrading from the iPhone 3GS and some from iPhone 4.
Samsung is still not yet at a stage where they can compete with Apple. It will take sometime if that will ever happen. But I am not saying Samsung products are not good, I believe they have some of the best Android devices out there. The truth is just Samsung and Android can't just compete with Apple. Samsung has a lead of devices sold, but Apple has a lead on the profits, in fact like 70% of all smart-phone profits go to Apple. These are the metrics that matter. It is just like how GM sometimes ago had the largest revenue but zero profits. Revenue leads nowhere, profits do. And Samsung is the kind of revenue and units sold.
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@Musyoki, my point exactly, Motorolla was also more of a lifestyle than a phone. The iphone is just like the hummer range of cars (its hype is more than its tech capability). That's how Americans market. I have been reading market reports on several sources that place samsung market share in most countries including the US higher than that for the iphone. The ongoing court battles are a clear indication of the fear instilled on the iphone by the samsung. Anyways as i pointed out one needs to be neutral while analysing this information coz its not about who outdoes who based on what your preferences are but what the greater market thinks of both products and why based on their perspective. For a while iphone was the one coming out with all the cool new features, now they are finding themselves playing catchup. Find some links below. http://www.cellular-news.com/story/56217.php http://www.cellular-news.com/story/56426.php?s=h On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Bushoki Jonas <jonasbushoki@gmail.com>wrote:
How do you even start comparing android O.S with iOS?? That's just ridiculous! For all the samsung fans, SIZE doesn't matter! The content of the O.S and quality of hardware is the one that matters at the end of the day!
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Interesting to note that Samsung Galaxy S4 is slated for March next year with a 5-inch display, what's your take on that? Are phones becoming bigger or they should be getting smaller? Personally was happy with the 3.5 inch display of the 4S & they reason I will do an iPhone 5 has nothing to do with the screen but just an upgrade
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On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Samsung Galaxy S III has sold about 20 million phones in around 4 months.
The iPhone 5 will see than in the first 2 weeks.
If you have an iPhone 4S, probably there is no need to upgrade to iPhone 5, you can wait until next year for a refreshed iPhone 5S or whatever it will be called.
But the timing for iPhone 5 is perfect for most people who bought the iPhone 3GS 3 years ago. Majority of non-new buyers will be upgrading from the iPhone 3GS and some from iPhone 4.
Samsung is still not yet at a stage where they can compete with Apple. It will take sometime if that will ever happen. But I am not saying Samsung products are not good, I believe they have some of the best Android devices out there. The truth is just Samsung and Android can't just compete with Apple. Samsung has a lead of devices sold, but Apple has a lead on the profits, in fact like 70% of all smart-phone profits go to Apple. These are the metrics that matter. It is just like how GM sometimes ago had the largest revenue but zero profits. Revenue leads nowhere, profits do. And Samsung is the kind of revenue and units sold.
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This looks familiar - http://allthingsd.com/20120918/iphone-5-is-such-a-disappointment-comic/
Anyone installed iOS 6? I am hesitating coz of that new fangled map thing of theirs. I bet it will take us (Kenyans) back to the 50s seeing as we feature nowhere in their roadmap. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
This looks familiar - http://allthingsd.com/20120918/iphone-5-is-such-a-disappointment-comic/ _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Clearly this will not go away. So, youre selling more handsets, youre in pole position, what exactly is the problem samsung has with apple? I thought profit margins are a function of your business model and not your competitors???? On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Anyone installed iOS 6? I am hesitating coz of that new fangled map thing of theirs. I bet it will take us (Kenyans) back to the 50s seeing as we feature nowhere in their roadmap.
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@Mark - The iTunes store was a no-go zone last night, tried a zillion times but I guess the Americans were getting there before me, even this morning is still a problem for me, but for sure I will update course of the day. ./Ok3ch On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Clearly this will not go away. So, youre selling more handsets, youre in pole position, what exactly is the problem samsung has with apple? I thought profit margins are a function of your business model and not your competitors????
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Anyone installed iOS 6? I am hesitating coz of that new fangled map thing of theirs. I bet it will take us (Kenyans) back to the 50s seeing as we feature nowhere in their roadmap.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
This looks familiar - http://allthingsd.com/20120918/iphone-5-is-such-a-disappointment-comic/
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@okechukwu had no problem myself but bloidy Zuku decided that 30kBps was good enough for me and am not into those manenos of leaving my laptop on all night on the charger. Will download from KENET later in the day. On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mark - The iTunes store was a no-go zone last night, tried a zillion times but I guess the Americans were getting there before me, even this morning is still a problem for me, but for sure I will update course of the day.
./Ok3ch
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Clearly this will not go away. So, youre selling more handsets, youre in pole position, what exactly is the problem samsung has with apple? I thought profit margins are a function of your business model and not your competitors????
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Anyone installed iOS 6? I am hesitating coz of that new fangled map thing of theirs. I bet it will take us (Kenyans) back to the 50s seeing as we feature nowhere in their roadmap.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
This looks familiar - http://allthingsd.com/20120918/iphone-5-is-such-a-disappointment-comic/
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Come to think of it, maybe it was Zuku for me too hehehe ./Ok3ch Sent from my iPad On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
@okechukwu had no problem myself but bloidy Zuku decided that 30kBps was good enough for me and am not into those manenos of leaving my laptop on all night on the charger. Will download from KENET later in the day.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: @Mark - The iTunes store was a no-go zone last night, tried a zillion times but I guess the Americans were getting there before me, even this morning is still a problem for me, but for sure I will update course of the day.
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: Clearly this will not go away. So, youre selling more handsets, youre in pole position, what exactly is the problem samsung has with apple? I thought profit margins are a function of your business model and not your competitors????
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: Anyone installed iOS 6? I am hesitating coz of that new fangled map thing of theirs. I bet it will take us (Kenyans) back to the 50s seeing as we feature nowhere in their roadmap.
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I did upgrade to iOS 6 yesterday night. It has some new features like a more enhanced Siri, native support for Facebook, a redesigned iTunes and App Store as well as the new Maps from Apple. The file is close to 600 MB and can be installed smoothly over the air. And all the settings and customizations will be maintained. As far as I can tell, the Maps from Apple are not as detailed as what we had from Google but they are fa r from being unusable. I have noticed a few inconsistencies here as far as Nairobi is concerned but this is not a major issue. Most smaller streets are not labelled as well. But overall, the Apple Maps are much more faster than Google. I think it will take a couple of years for Apple to really catch up to the level of detail that Google Maps has but the Apple Maps is much more neater in terms on design. I haven't tested the 3D features in supported cities but I am told they are really cool. There are also new features like additional option when a caller calls and you can simply reply by as SMS. Panorama support for photos has also been added to the Camera. There is also the new Passbook App though can't imagine how we will use that in Sub-Sahara Africa. The App Stores are now more organized and makes it easier to search for Apps, Music, Movies or TV Shows. Music App also redesigned. Overall, iOS 6 has a cleaner, leaner, brighter design than iOS 5. It also feels a little bit faster than 5.
From my perspective apple have the same hype that motorola had a few years back, and a majority of their sales are in the US. The key to being an analyst is to dissociate with attachment feeling.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Samsung Galaxy S III has sold about 20 million phones in around 4 months.
The iPhone 5 will see than in the first 2 weeks.
If you have an iPhone 4S, probably there is no need to upgrade to iPhone 5, you can wait until next year for a refreshed iPhone 5S or whatever it will be called.
But the timing for iPhone 5 is perfect for most people who bought the iPhone 3GS 3 years ago. Majority of non-new buyers will be upgrading from the iPhone 3GS and some from iPhone 4.
Samsung is still not yet at a stage where they can compete with Apple. It will take sometime if that will ever happen. But I am not saying Samsung products are not good, I believe they have some of the best Android devices out there. The truth is just Samsung and Android can't just compete with Apple. Samsung has a lead of devices sold, but Apple has a lead on the profits, in fact like 70% of all smart-phone profits go to Apple. These are the metrics that matter. It is just like how GM sometimes ago had the largest revenue but zero profits. Revenue leads nowhere, profits do. And Samsung is the kind of revenue and units sold.
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@Stephen, You need to do your research well, or just check out the facts. majority of Apple sales are outside the US. http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/02/10/63-of-iphones-were-activated-outside-... But that doesn't matter to you, does it?
Again, with these researches, depends on who you want to believe. http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/young-adults-and-teens-lea... On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Stephen,
You need to do your research well, or just check out the facts.
majority of Apple sales are outside the US.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/02/10/63-of-iphones-were-activated-outside-...
But that doesn't matter to you, does it?
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Samsung must be counting the devices on Safaricom and other telecom shops, not those pre-ordered by consumers. Ha ha :-) On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:
Mark, can you be quoted on this? Coz I see Samsung still pushing numbers, eating Apple fodder. They have already done 20million devices plus.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The phone will be the most successful phone yet. It doesn't take a genius. The level of trust accorded to Apple is impressive.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Numbers don't lie - 2 million pre-orders with the first 24 hours, and the queues are predicted to be longer come Friday!
./Ok3ch
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On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Kenneth Njendu <knjendu@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree in part with what Mark says, but I'll ass on and say that Apple has done a great job of priming consumers to want their products just for the fact that it is an Apple product (full disclosure, I am a fan and have an iPhone and iPad) Case in point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=player_embedded I personally go for upgrades every 3 years as there are not sufficient revolutionary hardware changes to the device to warrant an annual upgrade. These devices are largely driven by the software changes and upgrades.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
+1
On 13 September 2012 21:45, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think what Apple gets is the power of the sub conscious. The conscious mind sees a slightly pimped 4S but the subconscious will take in alot more once the phone is in your hand. I believe them when they say they change as little as possible because it already works as it is. the fine refinements in design and subtle changes will be noticed by the sub-conscious way before the conscious mind catches on. The realization that the phone is awesome when you hold it is what pushes you to buy the damn thing every year.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>wrote:
I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my laptop :-) & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too!
./Ok3ch
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> :-) > > > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, zuhair jaffer < > zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote: > >> Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for >> 120,000kshs… if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Don’t ask me about how genuine it is… call if you are willing to >> take the risk!**** >> >> Zuhair**** >> >> *From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: >> skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Odhiambo >> Washington >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:33 PM >> >> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List >> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Apple Unveils the iPhone 5 with 4-inch >> Display and LTE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Okech is a cultist - Apple cult! >> >> >> iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but >> they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new. >> >> Put it your own way; your own analogy. >> >> **** >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru < >> martin@techweez.com> wrote:**** >> >> Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to >> prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as >> the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the >> predecessors.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> >> wrote:**** >> >> I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best >> for >> the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. >> Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in >> the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you >> think they want! >> The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you >> imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the >> Ericsson T29 only? >> >> >> ./Ok3ch**** >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > I love the refinement that goes into apple products and >> especially the >> > screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple >> after ever >> > release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that >> the iPhone 5 >> > will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are >> anything to call >> > home about but something has to be said about reliability and >> consistency. >> > The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over >> your >> > phone/gadget. >> > >> > Anyhow unto each his own. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard < >> steve@sobbayi.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> @Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would >> rather >> >> have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole >> point. >> >> Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others >> playing >> >> catch up? >> >> >> >> Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly >> they have >> >> run out of ideas. >> >> >> >> Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. >> Again this is >> >> not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how >> crappy >> >> Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from >> becoming >> >> a behemoth. >> >> >> >> All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming >> and Apple >> >> needs to find its creative spark once again. >> >> >> >> iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem >> >> >> >> you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to >> Windows devices >> >> and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple >> devices >> >> alone >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> > So what's new to the public and you would rather have had >> Apple include >> >> > in >> >> > the iPhone 5? >> >> > >> >> > If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech >> in any >> >> > new >> >> > device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced >> in 2007, >> >> > it >> >> > was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. >> The Apple >> >> > felt >> >> > it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the >> iPhone, so the >> >> > first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed >> and power >> >> > efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was >> running >> >> > to >> >> > the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their >> devices. >> >> > That >> >> > did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a >> failure. In fact >> >> > they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast >> selling >> >> > products in the phone industry. >> >> > >> >> > I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this >> is just a >> >> > fad >> >> > and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in >> the long >> >> > run. >> >> > >> >> > But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, >> whether you >> >> > feel underwhelmed or note. >> >> > >> >> > Just note that the iPhone business is bigger that the total >> sum of both >> >> > Google and Microsoft and I think these facts speak for >> themselves. >> >> > Could Apple be so wrong then? >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> > ------------ >> >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> > ------------ >> >> > >> >> > Skunkworks Rules >> >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >> > ------------ >> >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Skunkworks mailing list >> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> ------------ >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> ------------ >> >> >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >> ------------ >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > >> > Mark Mwangi >> > >> > markmwangi.me.ke >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > ------------ >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke**** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- **** >> >> Regards,**** >> >> Martin Gicheru|Business Development|Techweez Solutions**** >> >> Email ID: martin@techweez.com | Tel:254721906171 | Website: >> http://www.techweez.com |**** >> >> Skype ID: martingicheru | Twitter ID:martingicheru | Gtalk: >> martin@techweez.com**** >> >> ** ** >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke**** >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.**** >> >> [image: e1_offer] >> >> This message contains confidential information and is intended only >> for the individual named. 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I thought the galaxy s3 has LTE, a bigger display than the iPhone five and more. Shame on samsung marketing and kudos to apple marketing. Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2012, at 6:03 PM, the mayor <the.verygood.mayor@gmail.com> wrote:
Samsung must be counting the devices on Safaricom and other telecom shops, not those pre-ordered by consumers. Ha ha :-)
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote: Mark, can you be quoted on this? Coz I see Samsung still pushing numbers, eating Apple fodder. They have already done 20million devices plus.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: The phone will be the most successful phone yet. It doesn't take a genius. The level of trust accorded to Apple is impressive.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: Numbers don't lie - 2 million pre-orders with the first 24 hours, and the queues are predicted to be longer come Friday!
./Ok3ch
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On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Kenneth Njendu <knjendu@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree in part with what Mark says, but I'll ass on and say that Apple has done a great job of priming consumers to want their products just for the fact that it is an Apple product (full disclosure, I am a fan and have an iPhone and iPad) Case in point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=player_embedded I personally go for upgrades every 3 years as there are not sufficient revolutionary hardware changes to the device to warrant an annual upgrade. These devices are largely driven by the software changes and upgrades.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote: Mark,
+1
On 13 September 2012 21:45, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: I think what Apple gets is the power of the sub conscious. The conscious mind sees a slightly pimped 4S but the subconscious will take in alot more once the phone is in your hand. I believe them when they say they change as little as possible because it already works as it is. the fine refinements in design and subtle changes will be noticed by the sub-conscious way before the conscious mind catches on. The realization that the phone is awesome when you hold it is what pushes you to buy the damn thing every year.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: I love Apple products and I have no regret about it - they took me away from the days when I changed operating systems every week on my laptop (used to love those days though) to the days when I actually work on my laptop :-) & Thats why I love my iPhone & iPad too!
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: :-)
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote: Just got an offer for an iphone 5; 16gb white going for 120,000kshs… if interested call Mohsin on 0733848852
Don’t ask me about how genuine it is… call if you are willing to take the risk!
Zuhair
From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:33 PM
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Okech is a cultist - Apple cult!
iPhone is like a woman, I think. New ones are born everyday, but they are still women - if you know what I mean. Nothing new.
Put it your own way; your own analogy.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:
Look at Okech, the reason we are having this conversation is to prove whether iPhone really has anything good to offer on this new phone as the hype had us expecting or otherwise. Plus how different it is from the predecessors.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I love how techies go on arguing for a lifetime about what is best for the consumers and the way the numbers just tell a different story. Apple with only 1 phone outsells each and every individual phone in the world on their own - this is what consumers want, not what you think they want! The reason other phones exist is to offer you a choice. Can you imagine how ridiculous the world would look if all phones were the Ericsson T29 only?
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the refinement that goes into apple products and especially the screens are just to die for. Declaring doom and gloom for apple after ever release has become a global hobby. I can tell you for free that the iPhone 5 will be the best selling phone ever. Not that the specs are anything to call home about but something has to be said about reliability and consistency. The rigid apple ecosystem ensures radical apps do not take over your phone/gadget.
Anyhow unto each his own.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Richard <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phillip you are spot on.. whats new to the public that I would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5. Well, that's the whole point. Doesn't Apple have the history of being innovative and others playing catch up?
Its been a while since Apple introduced something new. Clearly they have run out of ideas.
Then as you say, iPhone is bigger than Microsoft and Google. Again this is not new. Windows was once in that place, but we all know how crappy Windows has been in the past and that didn't stop Microsoft from becoming a behemoth.
All that I am saying is the keynotes have become underwhelming and Apple needs to find its creative spark once again.
iPhone5 brings nothing new to the ecosystem
you can still buy movies and music from iTunes straight to Windows devices and so that $24 billion in sales is not fully credited to Apple devices alone
Steve
So what's new to the public and you would rather have had Apple include in the iPhone 5?
If you may have notice, Apple rarely jumps to include new tech in any new device. If you remember, when they first iPhone was introduced in 2007, it was just when 3G was being included in some high end phones. The Apple felt it wasn't mature and polished enough to be include in the iPhone, so the first iPhone did not have 3G. Last year, LTE wasn't developed and power efficient to be include in the iPhone 4S even when Samsung was running to the market with all sort of crude LTE implementation in their devices. That did not make either the first iPhone or the iPhone 4S a failure. In fact they went on to be become some of the most profitable and fast selling products in the phone industry.
I know some thing the iPhone 5 should have had NFC. But this is just a fad and only time will tell if anything will come out of NFS in the long run.
But in the end it is customers who vote with their pockets, whether you feel underwhelmed or note.
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Samsung traditionally counts devices shipped, meaning they do not necessarily need to have been sold to consumers. One the other hand, Apple counts devices sold and activated. For all we know, the 20 million Samsung Galaxy phones sold could be sitting in retailer shops. On the other hand, I don't think consumers are really looking for a big screen. It reaches a point where bigger screens approaches a point of diminishing returns. A case in point is the Galaxy Note. If people wanted bigger screen, they could have been selling many more devices.
Now people are complaining that the iPhone 5 is just too light! http://gizmodo.com/5945662/the-weirdest-thing-people-hate-about-the-iphone-5
@ Martin Gicheru I stand corrected. The S3 is now the worlds most popular device. http://mashable.com/2012/11/08/gsiii-vs-iphone-sales/ On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Now people are complaining that the iPhone 5 is just too light!
http://gizmodo.com/5945662/the-weirdest-thing-people-hate-about-the-iphone-5
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@mwangy you DID read the whole article, did you not? On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Martin Gicheru I stand corrected. The S3 is now the worlds most popular device. http://mashable.com/2012/11/08/gsiii-vs-iphone-sales/
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Now people are complaining that the iPhone 5 is just too light!
http://gizmodo.com/5945662/the-weirdest-thing-people-hate-about-the-iphone-5
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I did and however temporary the lead may be, it is correct for the quarter in consideration. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Collins Areba <ac@arebacollins.com> wrote:
@mwangy you DID read the whole article, did you not?
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@ Martin Gicheru I stand corrected. The S3 is now the worlds most popular device. http://mashable.com/2012/11/08/gsiii-vs-iphone-sales/
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Now people are complaining that the iPhone 5 is just too light!
http://gizmodo.com/5945662/the-weirdest-thing-people-hate-about-the-iphone-5
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Again, you did read the whole article! ./Ok3ch On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I did and however temporary the lead may be, it is correct for the quarter in consideration.
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@mwangy you DID read the whole article, did you not?
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@ Martin Gicheru I stand corrected. The S3 is now the worlds most popular device. http://mashable.com/2012/11/08/gsiii-vs-iphone-sales/
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Mark Mwangi
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participants (25)
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Albert Mucunguzi -
Areba Collins [ ＠BrainiacKE ® ] -
Billy -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Bushoki Jonas -
Bwana Lawi -
Collins Areba
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Collins Areba -
Dennis Kioko -
James Muendo -
John Doe -
John Gitau -
Kenneth Njendu -
Mark Mwangi -
Martin Gicheru -
Michael Marosi -
Moses Muya -
Odhiambo Washington -
Okechukwu -
Ouya Obunga -
Philip Musyoki -
Stephen Munguti -
Steve Richard -
the mayor -
zuhair jaffer