
Hello Linux-likes:-) Coming from *BSD side of the divide, I wanted to get your opinion about which Linux version has the greatest Desktop experience, yet easy to manage for a noob (like myself). Is it Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Debian, Gentoo, this or that? Please defend your choice in a way as to convince a newbie:) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

Ubuntu will do. You can click your way around for a nice desktop experience and at the back of it, you have Debian to fix the small things that you feel they forgot. Moses. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello Linux-likes:-)
Coming from *BSD side of the divide, I wanted to get your opinion about which Linux version has the greatest Desktop experience, yet easy to manage for a noob (like myself). Is it Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Debian, Gentoo, this or that?
Please defend your choice in a way as to convince a newbie:)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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From personal experience I can tell you that OpenSUSE blows in those features you're talking about.
I highly recommend Ubuntu On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Moses <mosenetk@gmail.com> wrote:
Ubuntu will do. You can click your way around for a nice desktop experience and at the back of it, you have Debian to fix the small things that you feel they forgot.
Moses.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello Linux-likes:-)
Coming from *BSD side of the divide, I wanted to get your opinion about which Linux version has the greatest Desktop experience, yet easy to manage for a noob (like myself). Is it Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Debian, Gentoo, this or that?
Please defend your choice in a way as to convince a newbie:)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 18:06, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
From personal experience I can tell you that OpenSUSE blows in those features you're talking about.
I highly recommend Ubuntu
Rad!, now where do you stand? OpenSuse or Ubuntu? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

Boss ... "blows" is not a good thing. Generally [?] On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 18:06, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
From personal experience I can tell you that OpenSUSE blows in those features you're talking about.
I highly recommend Ubuntu
Rad!, now where do you stand? OpenSuse or Ubuntu?
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for Linux babies, ubuntu normally recommends you do a transitional shift, from your current operating environ, whereby you take baby steps whilst you maintain your old environ. for products like mepis, although with such you can run directly from cd, problem is u still need to enter commands such as "force mount" for you to be able to view your files lets say in d: of which we are all sure u've formated using ntfs. for ubuntu 10.10 such commands are minimal, infact they have spoonfed you. my lame reasoning :) From: odhiambo@gmail.com Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:24:33 +0300 To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Linux for Desktop - which one? On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 18:06, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
From personal experience I can tell you that OpenSUSE blows in those features you're talking about. I highly recommend Ubuntu Rad!, now where do you stand? OpenSuse or Ubuntu?
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i can predict this thread will have like 100 answerd. Ill tell you one thing though wash, anything that uses .deb package management has the advantage of numbers. many many many packages. as for the flavour.... ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, mint linux, debian, all of these have great user experiences depending on who the "user" is. if its a DeeJay, give him ubuntustudio, it its a teacher, im guessing edubuntu, I bet if you really looked you would get a flavour of debian derived distro tailored to watchies.... On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Anthony Kimani <kimanianthony@hotmail.com>wrote:
for Linux babies, ubuntu normally recommends you do a transitional shift, from your current operating environ, whereby you take baby steps whilst you maintain your old environ.
for products like mepis, although with such you can run directly from cd, problem is u still need to enter commands such as "force mount" for you to be able to view your files lets say in d: of which we are all sure u've formated using ntfs.
for ubuntu 10.10 such commands are minimal, infact they have spoonfed you.
my lame reasoning :)
------------------------------ From: odhiambo@gmail.com Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:24:33 +0300
To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Linux for Desktop - which one?
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 18:06, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
From personal experience I can tell you that OpenSUSE blows in those features you're talking about.
I highly recommend Ubuntu
Rad!, now where do you stand? OpenSuse or Ubuntu?
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Kweli kizungu ilikunja na meli .......... [?][?][?] Odhiambo,I think Rad recommends Ubuntu and I join in that.They took time to think of a newbie and a whole new experience and they crafted the OS in a way that could fit newbies.Music intergration,Social media,Photo Editing and a lot of other functions made simple,I mean its a new experience esp coming from a previously know "Techie" Os. On 11 April 2011 19:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 18:06, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
From personal experience I can tell you that OpenSUSE blows in those features you're talking about.
I highly recommend Ubuntu
Rad!, now where do you stand? OpenSuse or Ubuntu?
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Or you could just use Debian. Very stable OS and also user friendly. Apt has most apps you would ever use. Regard's Brian Ngure On 11 Apr 2011 18:03, "Moses" <mosenetk@gmail.com> wrote:
Ubuntu will do. You can click your way around for a nice desktop experience and at the back of it, you have Debian to fix the small things that you feel they forgot.
Moses.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Linux-likes:-)
Coming from *BSD side of the divide, I wanted to get your opinion about which Linux version has the greatest Desktop experience, yet easy to manage for a noob (like myself). Is it Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Debian, Gentoo, this or that?
Please defend your choice in a way as to convince a newbie:)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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I also vouch for Ubuntu. . stable regular releases and huge community for support and help. . On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
Or you could just use Debian. Very stable OS and also user friendly. Apt has most apps you would ever use.
Regard's
Brian Ngure
On 11 Apr 2011 18:03, "Moses" <mosenetk@gmail.com> wrote:
Ubuntu will do. You can click your way around for a nice desktop experience and at the back of it, you have Debian to fix the small things that you feel they forgot.
Moses.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Linux-likes:-)
Coming from *BSD side of the divide, I wanted to get your opinion about which Linux version has the greatest Desktop experience, yet easy to manage for a noob (like myself). Is it Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Debian, Gentoo, this or that?
Please defend your choice in a way as to convince a newbie:)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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go for ubuntu 10.10, I apparently installed mepis on top of win 7 and it wiped out everything just recently, ubuntu 10.10, all my stuff are there. my From: mwangy@gmail.com Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:13:17 +0300 To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Linux for Desktop - which one? I also vouch for Ubuntu. . stable regular releases and huge community for support and help. . On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote: Or you could just use Debian. Very stable OS and also user friendly. Apt has most apps you would ever use. Regard's Brian Ngure On 11 Apr 2011 18:03, "Moses" <mosenetk@gmail.com> wrote:
Ubuntu will do. You can click your way around for a nice desktop experience
and at the back of it, you have Debian to fix the small things that you feel they forgot.
Moses.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello Linux-likes:-)
Coming from *BSD side of the divide, I wanted to get your opinion about which Linux version has the greatest Desktop experience, yet easy to manage
for a noob (like myself). Is it Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Debian, Gentoo, this or that?
Please defend your choice in a way as to convince a newbie:)
-- Best regards,
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 18:37, Anthony Kimani <kimanianthony@hotmail.com>wrote:
go for ubuntu 10.10, I apparently installed mepis on top of win 7 and it wiped out everything just recently, ubuntu 10.10, all my stuff are there.
That one is a lame reason:) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 18:13, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I also vouch for Ubuntu. . stable regular releases and huge community for support and help. .
Mark, Please talk about Desktop use. A newbie would not really care about "stable regular releases..blah.blah" coz they are thinking "windoze":) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

now wash you want me to tell you the positions of the minimise buttons and how i like the compiz effects? Run a live cd and decide if its workable for you. On 4/11/11, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 18:13, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I also vouch for Ubuntu. . stable regular releases and huge community for support and help. .
Mark,
Please talk about Desktop use. A newbie would not really care about "stable regular releases..blah.blah" coz they are thinking "windoze":)
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 23:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
now wash you want me to tell you the positions of the minimise buttons and how i like the compiz effects? Run a live cd and decide if its workable for you.
Okay, folks. There must be a reason why so many have voted Ubuntu though I wonder where OpenSuse stands in all this. A few years back, Ubuntu CDs were everywhere, you could even order via e-mail and get them sent to you free of charge, yet one of my Linux heros (Sammy Lusiola) could not be dissuaded from using OpenSuse. My other Linux hero (Steve Muchai) was not the helpful guy, at least not where Linux advocacy was involved, coz he lived in the CLI. From that time, I haven't given Linux a serious thought/consideration. That was 2007, IIRC. A lot has changed now and everyone is singing Ubuntu, but now it looks like Ubuntu has really evolved, much like Windows, where we have Ubuntu variants. Now, Collins, I am the techie type, but I still don't know which Ubuntu I should go for. Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate? I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

Seems like Ubuntu is in the new Constitution :-) it just awaits promulgation. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 23:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
now wash you want me to tell you the positions of the minimise buttons and how i like the compiz effects? Run a live cd and decide if its workable for you.
Okay, folks. There must be a reason why so many have voted Ubuntu though I wonder where OpenSuse stands in all this. A few years back, Ubuntu CDs were everywhere, you could even order via e-mail and get them sent to you free of charge, yet one of my Linux heros (Sammy Lusiola) could not be dissuaded from using OpenSuse. My other Linux hero (Steve Muchai) was not the helpful guy, at least not where Linux advocacy was involved, coz he lived in the CLI. From that time, I haven't given Linux a serious thought/consideration. That was 2007, IIRC. A lot has changed now and everyone is singing Ubuntu, but now it looks like Ubuntu has really evolved, much like Windows, where we have Ubuntu variants.
Now, Collins, I am the techie type, but I still don't know which Ubuntu I should go for. Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10.
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@Wash - I was once a Linux-only individual, then I saw the light:- MacOSX. Linux is only for my servers and RedHat EL is my love. ./Ok3ch On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems like Ubuntu is in the new Constitution :-) it just awaits promulgation.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 23:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
now wash you want me to tell you the positions of the minimise buttons and how i like the compiz effects? Run a live cd and decide if its workable for you.
Okay, folks. There must be a reason why so many have voted Ubuntu though I wonder where OpenSuse stands in all this. A few years back, Ubuntu CDs were everywhere, you could even order via e-mail and get them sent to you free of charge, yet one of my Linux heros (Sammy Lusiola) could not be dissuaded from using OpenSuse. My other Linux hero (Steve Muchai) was not the helpful guy, at least not where Linux advocacy was involved, coz he lived in the CLI. From that time, I haven't given Linux a serious thought/consideration. That was 2007, IIRC. A lot has changed now and everyone is singing Ubuntu, but now it looks like Ubuntu has really evolved, much like Windows, where we have Ubuntu variants.
Now, Collins, I am the techie type, but I still don't know which Ubuntu I should go for. Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10.
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Ubuntu...10.04 or 10.1...easy to integrate to the Win environment....very processor effcient! On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Wash - I was once a Linux-only individual, then I saw the light:- MacOSX. Linux is only for my servers and RedHat EL is my love.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems like Ubuntu is in the new Constitution :-) it just awaits promulgation.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 23:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
now wash you want me to tell you the positions of the minimise buttons and how i like the compiz effects? Run a live cd and decide if its
workable
for you.
Okay, folks. There must be a reason why so many have voted Ubuntu though I wonder where OpenSuse stands in all this. A few years back, Ubuntu CDs were everywhere, you could even order via e-mail and get them sent to you free of charge, yet one of my Linux heros (Sammy Lusiola) could not be dissuaded from using OpenSuse. My other Linux hero (Steve Muchai) was not the helpful guy, at least not where Linux advocacy was involved, coz he lived in the CLI. From that time, I haven't given Linux a serious thought/consideration. That was 2007, IIRC. A lot has changed now and everyone is singing Ubuntu, but now it looks like Ubuntu has really evolved, much like Windows, where we have Ubuntu variants.
Now, Collins, I am the techie type, but I still don't know which Ubuntu I should go for. Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10.
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On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
... Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10.
Yes you can, and yes there is, Ultimate Edition<http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition/ultimate-edition-2-9/> .

@Wash...might I ask what the personal reasons are for not using Debian. I am a debian user for the last 3 or 4 years and not had a problem. Perhaps its coz I look for functionality rather than beauty of the OS's interface. I think any debian based linux flavor can do for you what you want and ofcourse as the votes show Ubuntu is the top deb based flavor of choice. With the mindset that debian is behind it and you mention you don't want to go debian, I'd like to know the reason for the avoidance of debian. Have a great day! Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
... Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10.
Yes you can, and yes there is, Ultimate Edition<http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition/ultimate-edition-2-9/> .
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I use Linux Mint <http://www.linuxmint.com/> 10 which started as a spin-off of Ubuntu but has also grown and has a Debian spin to it and is available for download in GNOME, KDE, XFCE & LXDE desktop versions . I liked it first because it comes with all the audio-video codecs that most Linux distros have a restriction on ( Fedora etc, you have to do a post install for them) Other than that the Gnome version has an interface that is very accessible and the necessary applications to get you up and running straight after install, i'm saying this because I do very minimum customizations after installing. -- ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Regards, David Njuki @njukey [Google,Twitter,Yahoo]

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:21, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Linux Mint <http://www.linuxmint.com/> 10 which started as a spin-off of Ubuntu but has also grown and has a Debian spin to it and is available for download in GNOME, KDE, XFCE & LXDE desktop versions .
I liked it first because it comes with all the audio-video codecs that most Linux distros have a restriction on ( Fedora etc, you have to do a post install for them) Other than that the Gnome version has an interface that is very accessible and the necessary applications to get you up and running straight after install, i'm saying this because I do very minimum customizations after installing.
One thing has caught my eye on this Linux Mint - it's based on Debian Testing package base. This means I can run all the latest versions of Apps, as opposed to those back-ports (is that what they are called?). I always see the "mainstream" packages on Debian lagging behind in versions, and some folks somewhere have to make some packages.... and I did not like that. So now, I am not sure what to go for. Do I go for Linux Mint and I will still get the same user experience that someone running 10.10 will get, or do I get more than a folk running 10.10 when I use Mint? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

Hey Wash, Check out this site as well that may confuse you to a point you make a decision: http://distrowatch.com/ <http://distrowatch.com/> Have a great day! Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:21, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Linux Mint <http://www.linuxmint.com/> 10 which started as a spin-off of Ubuntu but has also grown and has a Debian spin to it and is available for download in GNOME, KDE, XFCE & LXDE desktop versions .
I liked it first because it comes with all the audio-video codecs that most Linux distros have a restriction on ( Fedora etc, you have to do a post install for them) Other than that the Gnome version has an interface that is very accessible and the necessary applications to get you up and running straight after install, i'm saying this because I do very minimum customizations after installing.
One thing has caught my eye on this Linux Mint - it's based on Debian Testing package base. This means I can run all the latest versions of Apps, as opposed to those back-ports (is that what they are called?). I always see the "mainstream" packages on Debian lagging behind in versions, and some folks somewhere have to make some packages.... and I did not like that.
So now, I am not sure what to go for. Do I go for Linux Mint and I will still get the same user experience that someone running 10.10 will get, or do I get more than a folk running 10.10 when I use Mint?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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For a new-bie like Wash (Which I doubt), A live CD is a good enough way to test the solutions. @Okechukwu, I guess Apple Juice is doing you much harm. /Bonz On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Amarjit Labhuram < amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Wash,
Check out this site as well that may confuse you to a point you make a decision: http://distrowatch.com/ <http://distrowatch.com/> Have a great day!
Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:21, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Linux Mint <http://www.linuxmint.com/> 10 which started as a spin-off of Ubuntu but has also grown and has a Debian spin to it and is available for download in GNOME, KDE, XFCE & LXDE desktop versions .
I liked it first because it comes with all the audio-video codecs that most Linux distros have a restriction on ( Fedora etc, you have to do a post install for them) Other than that the Gnome version has an interface that is very accessible and the necessary applications to get you up and running straight after install, i'm saying this because I do very minimum customizations after installing.
One thing has caught my eye on this Linux Mint - it's based on Debian Testing package base. This means I can run all the latest versions of Apps, as opposed to those back-ports (is that what they are called?). I always see the "mainstream" packages on Debian lagging behind in versions, and some folks somewhere have to make some packages.... and I did not like that.
So now, I am not sure what to go for. Do I go for Linux Mint and I will still get the same user experience that someone running 10.10 will get, or do I get more than a folk running 10.10 when I use Mint?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 17:11, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
For a new-bie like Wash (Which I doubt), A live CD is a good enough way to test the solutions. @Okechukwu, I guess Apple Juice is doing you much harm.
Boni, Are you in order to suggest that I have a library of >10 Live CDs to help me find out which Linux meets my needs? Some Live CD/DVDs do not have the "full components" like the installers. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 08:51, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
... Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10.
Yes you can, and yes there is, Ultimate Edition<http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition/ultimate-edition-2-9/> .
Karunyu, When I said Ubuntu Ultimate Edition, I did not at all think about some custom distro made by some individual off the main distro. I try to keep to the mainstream version as much as possible. Similarly, I am not averse to trying out bleeding edge technology, so I'd be happy to run 11.04 than 10.10. The Ubuntu machine is not critical to me, so it can crash if it wants:-) Of the various *Buntu that Collins named, which one has ALL the features built in, much like Windows 7 Ultimate has everything Windows can ever get? That is what (the version) I want. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

@Wash, On 4/12/11 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
Now, Collins, I am the techie type, but I still don't know which Ubuntu I should go for. Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
This just phase 1 of your research and the answer is there are a number of mature Linux Desktop O/S's out there and you have a list of which ones are in the top 5 (at least) based on usage, support, package management, etc. o The next step (if i were you) would be to list down all the features/functionality that i expect from the OS am looking for based on the following; - What hardware specs are you planning to install the OS which one is more resource hungry and which one is not. - Support for Drivers, etc based on hardware specs, upgrade history etc; o Secondly, list down the applications that will be used mostly on the desktop both the custom internal apps and general ones. - From here you can find out which OS performs best on the general most used apps - Which OS performs (ease of install and stability) on the custom internal apps. - Go through the list of things that you have encountered as problems on a Desktop environment and test if they work on the OS or not. They could be as simple as handling sleep and wake on external drives of a specific vendor, etc. Or support for vendor specific USB devices/Hubs, Printing, etc. Most of the time its more of the subtle issues that makes one settle on an OS and not the general stuff. At the end of the day, you will be able to support your decision for going for a specific variant over others. Hope that helps. Michuki.

Im throwing mine in the ring too:-) cisco IOS....well since everyone is throwing in theirs now:-) You are leaving BSD why? after converting me to it? I am currently running ubuntu 10.10 for my tiny tiny notebook. Other than that I still insist on BSD (most of my work is still on cli).........of late i also have a test desktop running Redhat EL. On the other hand, this debate wouldnt feel soo wasted if we were dealing with an actual noob. I know for a fact Wash can test them all and tell us why he picks the one he finally goes with..... gitau On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 23:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
now wash you want me to tell you the positions of the minimise buttons and how i like the compiz effects? Run a live cd and decide if its workable for you.
Okay, folks. There must be a reason why so many have voted Ubuntu though I wonder where OpenSuse stands in all this. A few years back, Ubuntu CDs were everywhere, you could even order via e-mail and get them sent to you free of charge, yet one of my Linux heros (Sammy Lusiola) could not be dissuaded from using OpenSuse. My other Linux hero (Steve Muchai) was not the helpful guy, at least not where Linux advocacy was involved, coz he lived in the CLI. From that time, I haven't given Linux a serious thought/consideration. That was 2007, IIRC. A lot has changed now and everyone is singing Ubuntu, but now it looks like Ubuntu has really evolved, much like Windows, where we have Ubuntu variants.
Now, Collins, I am the techie type, but I still don't know which Ubuntu I should go for. Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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John, I still run BSD, but I have this extra laptop which I did not want to run either Windows or PC-BSD so I decided Linux would be a good deal. However, there are so many Linuxes suitable for Desktop environments that I just wasn't sure which one was the best (or rather would satisfy my Unix needs while also giving me a functional Desktop). I am happy to say MINT fitted this bill so well. Wacha kusema this debate was a waste. Imenisaidia sana. I did not even know about the existence of MINT in the first place:) I am not a happy MINT user. I don't even carry/touch my PC-BSD/Windows laptops anymore since these guys let me know about MINT. On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 07:35, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Im throwing mine in the ring too:-) cisco IOS....well since everyone is throwing in theirs now:-) You are leaving BSD why? after converting me to it?
I am currently running ubuntu 10.10 for my tiny tiny notebook. Other than that I still insist on BSD (most of my work is still on cli).........of late i also have a test desktop running Redhat EL.
On the other hand, this debate wouldnt feel soo wasted if we were dealing with an actual noob. I know for a fact Wash can test them all and tell us why he picks the one he finally goes with.....
gitau
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 23:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
now wash you want me to tell you the positions of the minimise buttons
and
how i like the compiz effects? Run a live cd and decide if its workable for you.
Okay, folks. There must be a reason why so many have voted Ubuntu though I wonder where OpenSuse stands in all this. A few years back, Ubuntu CDs were everywhere, you could even order via e-mail and get them sent to you free of charge, yet one of my Linux heros (Sammy Lusiola) could not be dissuaded from using OpenSuse. My other Linux hero (Steve Muchai) was not the helpful guy, at least not where Linux advocacy was involved, coz he lived in the CLI. From that time, I haven't given Linux a serious thought/consideration. That was 2007, IIRC. A lot has changed now and everyone is singing Ubuntu, but now it looks like Ubuntu has really evolved, much like Windows, where we have Ubuntu variants.
Now, Collins, I am the techie type, but I still don't know which Ubuntu I should go for. Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Prior to this entire discussion I was planning to move completely to BSD, I actually downloaded GhostBSD since its native Gnome based desktop. Wash, thank you throwing a spanner in the works.[?] Anyway I will still try it out. On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
John,
I still run BSD, but I have this extra laptop which I did not want to run either Windows or PC-BSD so I decided Linux would be a good deal. However, there are so many Linuxes suitable for Desktop environments that I just wasn't sure which one was the best (or rather would satisfy my Unix needs while also giving me a functional Desktop). I am happy to say MINT fitted this bill so well. Wacha kusema this debate was a waste. Imenisaidia sana. I did not even know about the existence of MINT in the first place:) I am not a happy MINT user. I don't even carry/touch my PC-BSD/Windows laptops anymore since these guys let me know about MINT.
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 07:35, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Im throwing mine in the ring too:-) cisco IOS....well since everyone is throwing in theirs now:-) You are leaving BSD why? after converting me to it?
I am currently running ubuntu 10.10 for my tiny tiny notebook. Other than that I still insist on BSD (most of my work is still on cli).........of late i also have a test desktop running Redhat EL.
On the other hand, this debate wouldnt feel soo wasted if we were dealing with an actual noob. I know for a fact Wash can test them all and tell us why he picks the one he finally goes with.....
gitau
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 23:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
now wash you want me to tell you the positions of the minimise buttons
and
how i like the compiz effects? Run a live cd and decide if its workable for you.
Okay, folks. There must be a reason why so many have voted Ubuntu though I wonder where OpenSuse stands in all this. A few years back, Ubuntu CDs were everywhere, you could even order via e-mail and get them sent to you free of charge, yet one of my Linux heros (Sammy Lusiola) could not be dissuaded from using OpenSuse. My other Linux hero (Steve Muchai) was not the helpful guy, at least not where Linux advocacy was involved, coz he lived in the CLI. From that time, I haven't given Linux a serious thought/consideration. That was 2007, IIRC. A lot has changed now and everyone is singing Ubuntu, but now it looks like Ubuntu has really evolved, much like Windows, where we have Ubuntu variants.
Now, Collins, I am the techie type, but I still don't know which Ubuntu I should go for. Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Hope am not late to comment; During early days in 2004 i used redhat 9 - primitive, but had some very important drivers (broadlogic :)) then went to fedora 3 - 6 for support issues which was a real thing then... Centos opened my eyes and replaced fedora with it till 5.0 for desktop (from 3.x-5.0) - GREAT FOR SERVERS/ with RHEL Then Mandriva - cute desktop especially on KDE and great user interface/experience, graphics and media players UBUNTU - my now favourite for 3 years down the line still seem to be the desktop i will be using in the far future... *E&OE* 1, great support and forums 2, support for almost all drivers/emulations 3, mid-beautiful interface that centos/fedora BUT not anywhere close to mandrake/mandriva. 4, themes of choice, compiz etc 5, audio/video codecs at ease 6, virtualization (though others would too) 7, great tool and a necessity for techies especially in IT/engineering 8, everybody is taken care of - student, graphic designer, programmer, engineer, teacher, techie, accountant, newbies, storekeepers etc - you will find something for everyone 9, i find mounting on drives and partation easier - and anybody can do it than any other linux distro 10, samba and printing is soo easy. 11, anybody can use it so long as you can read - everything so plain and documentation so elaborate - redhat may also have this bigtime. the list goes on and on... Wilson. On 16 April 2011 10:12, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Prior to this entire discussion I was planning to move completely to BSD, I actually downloaded GhostBSD since its native Gnome based desktop. Wash, thank you throwing a spanner in the works.[?] Anyway I will still try it out.
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
John,
I still run BSD, but I have this extra laptop which I did not want to run either Windows or PC-BSD so I decided Linux would be a good deal. However, there are so many Linuxes suitable for Desktop environments that I just wasn't sure which one was the best (or rather would satisfy my Unix needs while also giving me a functional Desktop). I am happy to say MINT fitted this bill so well. Wacha kusema this debate was a waste. Imenisaidia sana. I did not even know about the existence of MINT in the first place:) I am not a happy MINT user. I don't even carry/touch my PC-BSD/Windows laptops anymore since these guys let me know about MINT.
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 07:35, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Im throwing mine in the ring too:-) cisco IOS....well since everyone is throwing in theirs now:-) You are leaving BSD why? after converting me to it?
I am currently running ubuntu 10.10 for my tiny tiny notebook. Other than that I still insist on BSD (most of my work is still on cli).........of late i also have a test desktop running Redhat EL.
On the other hand, this debate wouldnt feel soo wasted if we were dealing with an actual noob. I know for a fact Wash can test them all and tell us why he picks the one he finally goes with.....
gitau
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 23:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
now wash you want me to tell you the positions of the minimise buttons
and
how i like the compiz effects? Run a live cd and decide if its workable for you.
Okay, folks. There must be a reason why so many have voted Ubuntu though I wonder where OpenSuse stands in all this. A few years back, Ubuntu CDs were everywhere, you could even order via e-mail and get them sent to you free of charge, yet one of my Linux heros (Sammy Lusiola) could not be dissuaded from using OpenSuse. My other Linux hero (Steve Muchai) was not the helpful guy, at least not where Linux advocacy was involved, coz he lived in the CLI. From that time, I haven't given Linux a serious thought/consideration. That was 2007, IIRC. A lot has changed now and everyone is singing Ubuntu, but now it looks like Ubuntu has really evolved, much like Windows, where we have Ubuntu variants.
Now, Collins, I am the techie type, but I still don't know which Ubuntu I should go for. Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Now that Wash is happy about Mint, maybe you can also introduce young skunks (3+) to Qimo4kids. Its also one of the Ubuntu spin offs. /Bonz On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Hope am not late to comment;
During early days in 2004 i used redhat 9 - primitive, but had some very important drivers (broadlogic :)) then went to fedora 3 - 6 for support issues which was a real thing then... Centos opened my eyes and replaced fedora with it till 5.0 for desktop (from 3.x-5.0) - GREAT FOR SERVERS/ with RHEL Then Mandriva - cute desktop especially on KDE and great user interface/experience, graphics and media players
UBUNTU - my now favourite for 3 years down the line still seem to be the desktop i will be using in the far future...
*E&OE*
1, great support and forums 2, support for almost all drivers/emulations 3, mid-beautiful interface that centos/fedora BUT not anywhere close to mandrake/mandriva. 4, themes of choice, compiz etc 5, audio/video codecs at ease 6, virtualization (though others would too) 7, great tool and a necessity for techies especially in IT/engineering 8, everybody is taken care of - student, graphic designer, programmer, engineer, teacher, techie, accountant, newbies, storekeepers etc - you will find something for everyone 9, i find mounting on drives and partation easier - and anybody can do it than any other linux distro 10, samba and printing is soo easy. 11, anybody can use it so long as you can read - everything so plain and documentation so elaborate - redhat may also have this bigtime. the list goes on and on...
Wilson.
On 16 April 2011 10:12, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Prior to this entire discussion I was planning to move completely to BSD, I actually downloaded GhostBSD since its native Gnome based desktop. Wash, thank you throwing a spanner in the works.[?] Anyway I will still try it out.
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
John,
I still run BSD, but I have this extra laptop which I did not want to run either Windows or PC-BSD so I decided Linux would be a good deal. However, there are so many Linuxes suitable for Desktop environments that I just wasn't sure which one was the best (or rather would satisfy my Unix needs while also giving me a functional Desktop). I am happy to say MINT fitted this bill so well. Wacha kusema this debate was a waste. Imenisaidia sana. I did not even know about the existence of MINT in the first place:) I am not a happy MINT user. I don't even carry/touch my PC-BSD/Windows laptops anymore since these guys let me know about MINT.
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 07:35, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Im throwing mine in the ring too:-) cisco IOS....well since everyone is throwing in theirs now:-) You are leaving BSD why? after converting me to it?
I am currently running ubuntu 10.10 for my tiny tiny notebook. Other than that I still insist on BSD (most of my work is still on cli).........of late i also have a test desktop running Redhat EL.
On the other hand, this debate wouldnt feel soo wasted if we were dealing with an actual noob. I know for a fact Wash can test them all and tell us why he picks the one he finally goes with.....
gitau
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 23:02, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
now wash you want me to tell you the positions of the minimise
buttons and
how i like the compiz effects? Run a live cd and decide if its workable for you.
Okay, folks. There must be a reason why so many have voted Ubuntu though I wonder where OpenSuse stands in all this. A few years back, Ubuntu CDs were everywhere, you could even order via e-mail and get them sent to you free of charge, yet one of my Linux heros (Sammy Lusiola) could not be dissuaded from using OpenSuse. My other Linux hero (Steve Muchai) was not the helpful guy, at least not where Linux advocacy was involved, coz he lived in the CLI. From that time, I haven't given Linux a serious thought/consideration. That was 2007, IIRC. A lot has changed now and everyone is singing Ubuntu, but now it looks like Ubuntu has really evolved, much like Windows, where we have Ubuntu variants.
Now, Collins, I am the techie type, but I still don't know which Ubuntu I should go for. Can I get all those*buntu wrapped into one, much like Windows 7 Ultimate?? Which one is the Ubuntu Ultimate?
I will go Ubuntu Ultimate, or wait for Windows 10.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 18:09, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
Or you could just use Debian. Very stable OS and also user friendly. Apt has most apps you would ever use.
For personal/historical reasons, I will never use Debian:) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

@Wash, personally I am using Mint 10...but I would recommend Ubuntu 10. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
*For personal/historical reasons, I will never use Debian:) *
Bwana Wash, please do share the story. I suspect, it is going to be a very interesting one !
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On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:31, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
*For personal/historical reasons, I will never use Debian:) *
Bwana Wash, please do share the story. I suspect, it is going to be a very interesting one !
Ndungi, It's not a big issue, really. It's mostly to do with the "split configuration" of (some) applications that Debian has. For example, I want my Apache to be configured using only /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf (This is *BSD style) and my Exim to be configured from /usr/local/etc/exim/configure. You could have s/\/usr\/local/s//\/etc/g but I still want just one config file, into which I can "include" and pull in certain bits. For instance, I am an ardent Exim user and in the support forum, we had to get a separate forum for supporting those Debian Admins who wanted to adhere to Debianism, instead of asking them to just merge their config files into one and forget the split configuration. Maybe this is not something only unique to Debian (I truly don't know). It may be just that I am so BSD-centric, which may also be seen as a reason by others to "never use *BSD" :-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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