Hello, We are planning as Wikipedians in Kenya to take photos of monuments and buildings around Nairobi then later upload them to Wikimedia Commons under the Creative Commons license. These photos are in turn used in Wikipedia articles lacking pictures or Articles shall later be written that were lacking yet the photograph is now available. On that note, am I required to have some form of permit? Or any other form of permission from the Kenyan authorities. PS: From Wikimedia Commons <http://bit.ly/AA4xg4>, Kenya is categorized as having freedom of Panorama. Please advise. //Stephen -- ** My Blog <http://uwanja.wordpress.com> | @uwanja <https://twitter.com/#%21/uwanja>| Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/swanjau> |
You need a permit from the city council. I think it costs about ksh. 4,000 for a day. On 13 February 2012 18:49, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
We are planning as Wikipedians in Kenya to take photos of monuments and buildings around Nairobi then later upload them to Wikimedia Commons under the Creative Commons license. These photos are in turn used in Wikipedia articles lacking pictures or Articles shall later be written that were lacking yet the photograph is now available.
On that note, am I required to have some form of permit? Or any other form of permission from the Kenyan authorities.
PS: From Wikimedia Commons <http://bit.ly/AA4xg4>, Kenya is categorized as having freedom of Panorama.
Please advise.
//Stephen
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Great idea !! I have been looking for CC photos of Nairobi yesterday on Wikimedia... Thanks Gichingiri for your reply. I guess you are right, although we may think that public/govt properties fall into public domain and can be shot without prior permission (unless there is a sign saying "no picture"); but last events showed that you can not take picture of public places without consent of City Council and especially now with that Al-Shabaad threat ! Law varies a lot from country to country, but note that in general, private properties/buildings fall into copyright protection and thus private properties/buildings can be photographed without consent of owners; same remarks for buildings/properties decorated for specific events, then you must have consent of owners as well as person in charge of decoration/event organizers (do you remember the Effeil Tower story, you can picture the Effeil Tower during the day as it falls into the public domain; but at night, you can't !! Just because the specific lighting of the tower is copyrighted, crazy) Therefore, for both private properties and people, it is preferable to have a signed model/property release form - you can find a template there, it could very useful for private owners - http://www.professionalphotographer.co.uk/Magazine/Downloads/Model-Release-F... Some useful links - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photography_and_the_law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_release Wishing you all the best !! On 14 February 2012 08:31, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
You need a permit from the city council. I think it costs about ksh. 4,000 for a day.
On 13 February 2012 18:49, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
We are planning as Wikipedians in Kenya to take photos of monuments and buildings around Nairobi then later upload them to Wikimedia Commons under the Creative Commons license. These photos are in turn used in Wikipedia articles lacking pictures or Articles shall later be written that were lacking yet the photograph is now available.
On that note, am I required to have some form of permit? Or any other form of permission from the Kenyan authorities.
PS: From Wikimedia Commons <http://bit.ly/AA4xg4>, Kenya is categorized as having freedom of Panorama.
Please advise.
//Stephen
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On 13 February 2012 18:49, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
We are planning as Wikipedians in Kenya to take photos of monuments and buildings around Nairobi then later upload them to Wikimedia Commons under the Creative Commons license. These photos are in turn used in Wikipedia articles lacking pictures or Articles shall later be written that were lacking yet the photograph is now available.
On that note, am I required to have some form of permit? Or any other form of permission from the Kenyan authorities.
Hi, There is a Kenya Photographers Google group you may be interested in joining (you may find other photographers willing to join your quest) - the email is photokenya@googlegroups.com On licenses from previous discussions about this things are ambiguous. - There is a city council license as Kuria says which is between KSH 2,000 - 4,000 - There is another license which costs KSH 10,000 PER STREET - so make sure you know what your are being charged for - However, most of the photographers say that so long as you don't make a "big production" (tripod,reflectors and more than one assistant) of it, show confidence (not being furtive) and not lingering too long at one location you can get away without a license. Your biggest headache may be the watchmen/women of various buildings who can get very protective of their buildings and do not want anyone taking pictures of it! - Although you do not need a police license some people advise notifying them. It always helps when you can say you have talked with the OCS Central or something like that!
This is crazy, 4k + 10k per street !!! To subscribe via email, just send an email to photokenya+subscribe@googlegroups.com On 14 February 2012 10:37, Daudi Were <daudi.were@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13 February 2012 18:49, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
We are planning as Wikipedians in Kenya to take photos of monuments and buildings around Nairobi then later upload them to Wikimedia Commons under the Creative Commons license. These photos are in turn used in Wikipedia articles lacking pictures or Articles shall later be written that were lacking yet the photograph is now available.
On that note, am I required to have some form of permit? Or any other form of permission from the Kenyan authorities.
Hi,
There is a Kenya Photographers Google group you may be interested in joining (you may find other photographers willing to join your quest) - the email is photokenya@googlegroups.com On licenses from previous discussions about this things are ambiguous.
- There is a city council license as Kuria says which is between KSH 2,000 - 4,000 - There is another license which costs KSH 10,000 PER STREET - so make sure you know what your are being charged for - However, most of the photographers say that so long as you don't make a "big production" (tripod,reflectors and more than one assistant) of it, show confidence (not being furtive) and not lingering too long at one location you can get away without a license. Your biggest headache may be the watchmen/women of various buildings who can get very protective of their buildings and do not want anyone taking pictures of it! - Although you do not need a police license some people advise notifying them. It always helps when you can say you have talked with the OCS Central or something like that!
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Oups, Daudi, the group you mentioned is invite ONLY "The group you attempted to subscribe to is invite only. You must be invited by the group owner. If you have questions related to this or any other Google Group, visit the Help Center at http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=en_US. Thanks, Google Groups" On 14 February 2012 11:36, TheBigBoss <thebigboss@peperuka.com> wrote:
This is crazy, 4k + 10k per street !!!
To subscribe via email, just send an email to photokenya+subscribe@googlegroups.com
On 14 February 2012 10:37, Daudi Were <daudi.were@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13 February 2012 18:49, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
We are planning as Wikipedians in Kenya to take photos of monuments and buildings around Nairobi then later upload them to Wikimedia Commons under the Creative Commons license. These photos are in turn used in Wikipedia articles lacking pictures or Articles shall later be written that were lacking yet the photograph is now available.
On that note, am I required to have some form of permit? Or any other form of permission from the Kenyan authorities.
Hi,
There is a Kenya Photographers Google group you may be interested in joining (you may find other photographers willing to join your quest) - the email is photokenya@googlegroups.com On licenses from previous discussions about this things are ambiguous.
- There is a city council license as Kuria says which is between KSH 2,000 - 4,000 - There is another license which costs KSH 10,000 PER STREET - so make sure you know what your are being charged for - However, most of the photographers say that so long as you don't make a "big production" (tripod,reflectors and more than one assistant) of it, show confidence (not being furtive) and not lingering too long at one location you can get away without a license. Your biggest headache may be the watchmen/women of various buildings who can get very protective of their buildings and do not want anyone taking pictures of it! - Although you do not need a police license some people advise notifying them. It always helps when you can say you have talked with the OCS Central or something like that!
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Are you kidding? Are those rates for movie or television productions or do they apply to someone (tourist) walking around with a hand camera or worse mobile phone? Coz if its the latter that's total bull. ----- Original Message ----- | From: "TheBigBoss" <thebigboss@peperuka.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:36:14 AM | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi | This is crazy, 4k + 10k per street !!! | To subscribe via email, just send an email to | photokenya+subscribe@googlegroups.com | On 14 February 2012 10:37, Daudi Were < daudi.were@gmail.com > wrote: | | On 13 February 2012 18:49, stephen wanjau < wanjaustev@gmail.com > | | wrote: | | | | Hello, | | | | | | We are planning as Wikipedians in Kenya to take photos of | | | monuments | | | and buildings around Nairobi then later upload them to Wikimedia | | | Commons under the Creative Commons license. These photos are in | | | turn | | | used in Wikipedia articles lacking pictures or Articles shall | | | later | | | be written that were lacking yet the photograph is now available. | | | | | | On that note, am I required to have some form of permit? Or any | | | other | | | form of permission from the Kenyan authorities. | | | | | Hi, | | | There is a Kenya Photographers Google group you may be interested | | in | | joining (you may find other photographers willing to join your | | quest) - the email is photokenya@googlegroups.com | | | On licenses from previous discussions about this things are | | ambiguous. | | | • There is a city council license as Kuria says which is between | | KSH | | 2,000 - 4,000 | | | • There is another license which costs KSH 10,000 PER STREET - so | | make sure you know what your are being charged for | | | • However, most of the photographers say that so long as you don't | | make a "big production" (tripod,reflectors and more than one | | assistant) of it, show confidence (not being furtive) and not | | lingering too long at one location you can get away without a | | license. Your biggest headache may be the watchmen/women of various | | buildings who can get very protective of their buildings and do not | | want anyone taking pictures of it! | | | • Although you do not need a police license some people advise | | notifying them. It always helps when you can say you have talked | | with the OCS Central or something like that! | | | _______________________________________________ | | | Skunkworks mailing list | | | Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | ------------ | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | ------------ | | | Skunkworks Rules | | | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | ------------ | | | Other services @ http://my.co..ke | | -- | TheBigBoss TheBigBoss | Nairobi, Kenya | Email: TheBigBoss@peperuka.com | Peperuka | _______________________________________________ | Skunkworks mailing list | Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | ------------ | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | ------------ | Skunkworks Rules | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | ------------ | Other services @ http://my.co.ke
If you are taking casual photos, the rates don't apply to you. But if you intend to set up your tripod, multiple cameras, etc you may consider coughing up the amount. On 14 February 2012 11:57, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Are you kidding? Are those rates for movie or television productions or do they apply to someone (tourist) walking around with a hand camera or worse mobile phone? Coz if its the latter that's total bull.
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This is crazy, 4k + 10k per street !!!
To subscribe via email, just send an email to photokenya+subscribe@googlegroups.com
On 14 February 2012 10:37, Daudi Were <daudi.were@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13 February 2012 18:49, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
We are planning as Wikipedians in Kenya to take photos of monuments and buildings around Nairobi then later upload them to Wikimedia Commons under the Creative Commons license. These photos are in turn used in Wikipedia articles lacking pictures or Articles shall later be written that were lacking yet the photograph is now available.
On that note, am I required to have some form of permit? Or any other form of permission from the Kenyan authorities.
Hi,
There is a Kenya Photographers Google group you may be interested in joining (you may find other photographers willing to join your quest) - the email is photokenya@googlegroups.com On licenses from previous discussions about this things are ambiguous.
- There is a city council license as Kuria says which is between KSH 2,000 - 4,000 - There is another license which costs KSH 10,000 PER STREET - so make sure you know what your are being charged for - However, most of the photographers say that so long as you don't make a "big production" (tripod,reflectors and more than one assistant) of it, show confidence (not being furtive) and not lingering too long at one location you can get away without a license. Your biggest headache may be the watchmen/women of various buildings who can get very protective of their buildings and do not want anyone taking pictures of it! - Although you do not need a police license some people advise notifying them. It always helps when you can say you have talked with the OCS Central or something like that!
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On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
If you are taking casual photos, the rates don't apply to you.
But if you intend to set up your tripod, multiple cameras, etc you may consider coughing up the amount.
It's worth getting in touch with local authorities and law enforcement either way. I had a horrible experience in Pointe Noire, Congo last December. I also saw some tourists getting harassed when they took pics of the Dedan Kimathi statue the other day - which I though was totally uncalled for. It doesn't help that some buildings that are landmarks e.g. KICC may or may not be classified as restricted, depending on who's arresting you. BR S -- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head.
Thanks guys for the heads up. I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed. Steve ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Steve Muchai" <smuchai@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:07:00 PM | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi | | On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Gichingiri Kuria | <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote: | > | > If you are taking casual photos, the rates don't apply to you. | > | > But if you intend to set up your tripod, multiple cameras, etc you | > may consider coughing up the amount. | | It's worth getting in touch with local authorities and law | enforcement | either way. I had a horrible experience in Pointe Noire, Congo last | December. I also saw some tourists getting harassed when they took | pics of the Dedan Kimathi statue the other day - which I though was | totally uncalled for. It doesn't help that some buildings that are | landmarks e.g. KICC may or may not be classified as restricted, | depending on who's arresting you. | | BR | S | | -- | This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. | _______________________________________________ | Skunkworks mailing list | Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | ------------ | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | ------------ | | Skunkworks Rules | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | ------------ | Other services @ http://my.co.ke |
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go. Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up... BR S
Hello, We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on. Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say. If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web. These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely. Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount. Thank you for your feedback about this. Regards, Stephen. On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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Stephen, Why do you not want to pay a liscence?? Try Kanju uone...They will go with all your lovely Nikons never to be seen again. Secondly, with terrorism, get all the correct authorizations from CID and Central Police or all of you will have a swoop by the terrorism squad and before you tell them of your nice Wiki-Whatever ideas, you will have a force spokesman talking on TV of "Suspects" Finally, in case you aren't allowed to photograph legally.......Nairobi has also become another Newyork where you cannot enjoy the luxury of your Camera, taking photos of bridges and buildings. Someone will argue that Terrorist will go to the internet in your Wiki-Whatever and map attacks from there. Finally Some hope; go to KIC Roof Top, pay 100 to go up and take all the photos that you want with no one disturbing you Don't dare go on the streets photographing without having to pay Kanju and clear with the Authorities ( in writing).The damage can be massive All the best in your noble Project Thanks Oscar -----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of stephen wanjau Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:55 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi Hello, We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on. Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say. If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web. These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely. Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount. Thank you for your feedback about this. Regards, Stephen. On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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Hello, Definitely I wouldn't try Kanjo;) I will be going to the see the OCS central police (Though ataniambia hana kalamu na rubber;)) Plus the CCN for my safety and that of my colleagues plus their gadgets.I think a letter with the list of the participants would suffice. I will definitely post the results of my meeting with the two authorities here, It might be useful sometime in the future. //Stephen On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Kimani : TransTech " Love For Tech Stuff" < techstuff@transtech.co.ke> wrote:
Stephen,
Why do you not want to pay a liscence??
Try Kanju uone...They will go with all your lovely Nikons never to be seen again.
Secondly, with terrorism, get all the correct authorizations from CID and Central Police or all of you will have a swoop by the terrorism squad and before you tell them of your nice Wiki-Whatever ideas, you will have a force spokesman talking on TV of "Suspects"
Finally, in case you aren't allowed to photograph legally.......Nairobi has also become another Newyork where you cannot enjoy the luxury of your Camera, taking photos of bridges and buildings. Someone will argue that Terrorist will go to the internet in your Wiki-Whatever and map attacks from there.
Finally Some hope; go to KIC Roof Top, pay 100 to go up and take all the photos that you want with no one disturbing you
Don't dare go on the streets photographing without having to pay Kanju and clear with the Authorities ( in writing).The damage can be massive
All the best in your noble Project
Thanks
Oscar
-----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of stephen wanjau Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:55 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi
Hello,
We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on.
Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say.
If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web.
These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely.
Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount.
Thank you for your feedback about this.
Regards, Stephen.
On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please let me know. ./bernard On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello,
We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on.
Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say.
If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web.
These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely.
Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount.
Thank you for your feedback about this.
Regards, Stephen.
On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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Hello, Nikon D5100 Digital SLR Camera With 18-55mm VR Lens @ KES 85,000 //STEPHEN On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please let me know.
./bernard
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello,
We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on.
Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say.
If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web.
These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely.
Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount.
Thank you for your feedback about this.
Regards, Stephen.
On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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Stephen, please make a visit to City Hall to confirm on actual costs and procedure. On 21 February 2012 21:17, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Nikon D5100 Digital SLR Camera With 18-55mm VR Lens @ KES 85,000
//STEPHEN
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please let me know.
./bernard
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello,
We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on.
Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say.
If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web.
These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely.
Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount.
Thank you for your feedback about this.
Regards, Stephen.
On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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Hello, I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information! They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments. I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation. After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license. //Stephen On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
Stephen, please make a visit to City Hall to confirm on actual costs and procedure.
On 21 February 2012 21:17, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Nikon D5100 Digital SLR Camera With 18-55mm VR Lens @ KES 85,000
//STEPHEN
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please let me know.
./bernard
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello,
We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on.
Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say.
If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web.
These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely.
Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount.
Thank you for your feedback about this.
Regards, Stephen.
On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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They will not understand what you are doing - You and that guy who wants to take pictures for his keeping are all the same - just live with it ./Ok3ch On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information!
They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments.
I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation.
After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license.
//Stephen
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
Stephen, please make a visit to City Hall to confirm on actual costs and procedure.
On 21 February 2012 21:17, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Nikon D5100 Digital SLR Camera With 18-55mm VR Lens @ KES 85,000
//STEPHEN
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please let me know.
./bernard
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on.
Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say.
If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web.
These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely.
Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount.
Thank you for your feedback about this.
Regards, Stephen.
On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote: > Thanks guys for the heads up. > > I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to > Nairobi > with my camera. > I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times > have > changed. >
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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@Ok3ch, Yeah I have to live with it, but I think I have not done an extensive outreach for guys to really know about this CC license, Wikipedia, Wikimedia etc //Stephen On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
They will not understand what you are doing - You and that guy who wants to take pictures for his keeping are all the same - just live with it
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information!
They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments.
I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation.
After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license.
//Stephen
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
Stephen, please make a visit to City Hall to confirm on actual costs and procedure.
On 21 February 2012 21:17, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Nikon D5100 Digital SLR Camera With 18-55mm VR Lens @ KES 85,000
//STEPHEN
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please let me know.
./bernard
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on.
Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to
say.
If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web.
These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely.
Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount.
Thank you for your feedback about this.
Regards, Stephen.
On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> > wrote: >> Thanks guys for the heads up. >> >> I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to >> Nairobi >> with my camera. >> I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize
times
>> have >> changed. >> > > It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, > when > they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside > it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a > permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and > reminded > them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both > have > cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits > for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me > go. > > Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd > panic > and pay up... > > BR > S > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ok3ch, Yeah I have to live with it, but I think I have not done an extensive outreach for guys to really know about this CC license, Wikipedia, Wikimedia etc
Hi, This is probably a long shot but maybe the Tourism Ministry may have something of interest? I wouldn't know where to start, though. Maybe the Brand Kenya initiative could have some idea, since this should be of interest to them? BR S
This is utter rubbish. I have traveled through many cities in the west and I have never found one that you have to pay to take photos with a hand held. In some places I have even asked cops to pose in the shot and they do it so gladly. Another thing, when tourists visit Nairobi are they asked to pay the 2600? ----- Original Message ----- | From: "stephen wanjau" <wanjaustev@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:50:09 AM | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi | Hello, | I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed | a letter from the Ministry of information! | They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings | and monuments. | I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes | while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity | for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia | Foundation. | After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under | the CC license. | //Stephen | On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gichingiri Kuria < | gmail@gichingiri.com > wrote: | | Stephen, please make a visit to City Hall to confirm on actual | | costs | | and procedure. | | | On 21 February 2012 21:17, stephen wanjau < wanjaustev@gmail.com > | | wrote: | | | | Hello, | | | | | | Nikon D5100 Digital SLR Camera With 18-55mm VR Lens @ KES 85,000 | | | | | | //STEPHEN | | | | | | On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru < | | | bmwagiru@gmail.com | | | > wrote: | | | | | | | On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please | | | | let | | | | me | | | | know. | | | | | | | | | | ../bernard | | | | | | | | | | On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau < | | | | wanjaustev@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | Hello, | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods | | | | | just | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so | | | | | on. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. | | | | | So | | | | | to | | | | | say. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's | | | | | capital | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | on the web. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the | | | | | CC | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | license which implies they are free for reuse either | | | | | commercially | | | | | or | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | freely. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station | | | | | because | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who | | | | | am | | | | | sure | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | will charge some amount. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Thank you for your feedback about this. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Regards, | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stephen. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai < smuchai@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi < | | | | | > steve@sobbayi.com | | | | | > > wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | >> Thanks guys for the heads up. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | >> I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I | | | | | >> come | | | | | >> to | | | | | >> Nairobi | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | >> with my camera. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | >> I think its high time they changed their attitude and | | | | | >> realize | | | | | >> times have | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | >> changed. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa | | | | | > airport, | | | | | > when | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera | | | | | > was | | | | | > inside | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I | | | | | > needed | | | | | > a | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, | | | | | > and | | | | | > reminded | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since | | | | | > they | | | | | > both | | | | | > have | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > cameras. 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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
This is utter rubbish. I have traveled through many cities in the west and I have never found one that you have to pay to take photos with a hand held. In some places I have even asked cops to pose in the shot and they do it so gladly.
Do they have Al-Shabab there? Or Nyeri women who might take exception to being caught in the background? Mblayo
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*To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:50:09 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi
Hello,
I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information!
They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments.
I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation.
After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license.
//Stephen
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
Stephen, please make a visit to City Hall to confirm on actual costs and procedure.
On 21 February 2012 21:17, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Nikon D5100 Digital SLR Camera With 18-55mm VR Lens @ KES 85,000
//STEPHEN
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please let me know.
../bernard
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello,
We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on.
Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say.
If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web.
These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely.
Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount.
Thank you for your feedback about this.
Regards, Stephen.
On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote: > Thanks guys for the heads up. > > I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi > with my camera. > I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have > changed. >
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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Stephen and Mblayo, Why do you want to just go to the street and take photos of Our buildings and not follow such a simple procedure Actually if you go to Ministry of Information or ICT board, you can get a letter from Bitange or Paul Kukubo that can even enable you get a waiver on these costs that you are sooo complaining about How do you want to spend a day photographing our buildings and we don't know who the hell you are. Kindly respect and follow procedure. Don't see the CCN and Central Police and a bother...they aren't @ Mblayo.I don't know what cities that you are talking about..about I know every city has Non Photography areas..and for Nairobi, all our buildings are Non Photography areas unless you have authorization. I was with a group of Kenyans in Newyork in 2010 and they decided to take pics of a beautiful bridge as we got to NY...we were in a car...and that guy really sweated his small cloth explaining that he is an innocent kenyan on an exchange program.. Lastly.Mblayo. The Nyeri women comments isn't good. Such a stereotype that we are all cracking a joke about, happened in 2006-2007 when some people were called " Madoadoa" and you well know what happened in Dec 2007- Feb 2008. Thanks and go and get the correct authorization. Kudos steve for your consistency Kimani Maina From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Brian Munyao Longwe Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:47 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote: This is utter rubbish. I have traveled through many cities in the west and I have never found one that you have to pay to take photos with a hand held. In some places I have even asked cops to pose in the shot and they do it so gladly. Do they have Al-Shabab there? Or Nyeri women who might take exception to being caught in the background? Mblayo _____ From: "stephen wanjau" <wanjaustev@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:50:09 AM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi Hello, I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information! They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments. I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation. After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license. //Stephen On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote: Stephen, please make a visit to City Hall to confirm on actual costs and procedure. On 21 February 2012 21:17, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, Nikon D5100 Digital SLR Camera With 18-55mm VR Lens @ KES 85,000 //STEPHEN On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please let me know. ../bernard On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on. Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say. If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web. These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely. Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount. Thank you for your feedback about this. Regards, Stephen. On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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in defense of CCN, though am privy of the drive and am well aware that its a noble idea being a volunteer with Wikimedia ,i want to point out a few things ,if you argue that you don't need to pay because ,you aint making money and if anything you doing Kenya a favor everybody would want to come in the good name of non profit making organization to evade tax. Comparing Nairobi to other cities in the World with less stringent security measures is totally missing the point because ,we are exposed to different security threats and thus the need to approach things differently it,is like saying am putting off my electric fence cz my neighbor doesn't have a fence. My take is that if CCN has been charging exuberant levies to guys calling themselves photographers and using the money to keep our city in the sun clean i have no problem with them and we will do ourselves great favor to pay up and go take the snaps , lest we turn this list into a whining galore!what i know the law or should i say the by laws apply equally across the board , rgds. Branton. On 2/23/12, Kimani : TransTech " Love For Tech Stuff" <techstuff@transtech.co.ke> wrote:
Stephen and Mblayo,
Why do you want to just go to the street and take photos of Our buildings and not follow such a simple procedure
Actually if you go to Ministry of Information or ICT board, you can get a letter from Bitange or Paul Kukubo that can even enable you get a waiver on these costs that you are sooo complaining about
How do you want to spend a day photographing our buildings and we don't know who the hell you are.
Kindly respect and follow procedure. Don't see the CCN and Central Police and a bother...they aren't
@ Mblayo.I don't know what cities that you are talking about..about I know every city has Non Photography areas..and for Nairobi, all our buildings are Non Photography areas unless you have authorization.
I was with a group of Kenyans in Newyork in 2010 and they decided to take pics of a beautiful bridge as we got to NY...we were in a car...and that guy really sweated his small cloth explaining that he is an innocent kenyan on an exchange program..
Lastly.Mblayo. The Nyeri women comments isn't good. Such a stereotype that we are all cracking a joke about, happened in 2006-2007 when some people were called " Madoadoa" and you well know what happened in Dec 2007- Feb 2008.
Thanks and go and get the correct authorization. Kudos steve for your consistency
Kimani Maina
From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Brian Munyao Longwe Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:47 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
This is utter rubbish. I have traveled through many cities in the west and I have never found one that you have to pay to take photos with a hand held. In some places I have even asked cops to pose in the shot and they do it so gladly.
Do they have Al-Shabab there? Or Nyeri women who might take exception to being caught in the background?
Mblayo
_____
From: "stephen wanjau" <wanjaustev@gmail.com>
To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:50:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi
Hello,
I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information!
They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments.
I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation.
After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license.
//Stephen
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
Stephen, please make a visit to City Hall to confirm on actual costs and procedure.
On 21 February 2012 21:17, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Nikon D5100 Digital SLR Camera With 18-55mm VR Lens @ KES 85,000
//STEPHEN
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please let me know.
../bernard
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on.
Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say.
If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web.
These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely.
Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount.
Thank you for your feedback about this.
Regards, Stephen.
On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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dude, your email client is the worsetest. subject keep changing On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Kimani : TransTech " Love For Tech Stuff" <techstuff@transtech.co.ke> wrote:
Stephen and Mblayo,****
** **
Why do you want to just go to the street and take photos of Our buildings and not follow such a simple procedure****
** **
Actually if you go to Ministry of Information or ICT board, you can get a letter from Bitange or Paul Kukubo that can even enable you get a waiver on these costs that you are sooo complaining about****
** **
How do you want to spend a day photographing our buildings and we don’t know who the hell you are.****
** **
Kindly respect and follow procedure. Don’t see the CCN and Central Police and a bother…..they aren’t****
** **
@ Mblayo…I don’t know what cities that you are talking about….about I know every city has Non Photography areas….and for Nairobi, all our buildings are Non Photography areas unless you have authorization.****
** **
I was with a group of Kenyans in Newyork in 2010 and they decided to take pics of a beautiful bridge as we got to NY...we were in a car…..and that guy really sweated his small cloth explaining that he is an innocent kenyan on an exchange program……****
** **
** **
Lastly…Mblayo… The Nyeri women comments isn’t good. Such a stereotype that we are all cracking a joke about, happened in 2006-2007 when some people were called “ Madoadoa” and you well know what happened in Dec 2007- Feb 2008.****
** **
Thanks and go and get the correct authorization. Kudos steve for your consistency****
** **
** **
Kimani Maina****
** **
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Brian Munyao Longwe *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:47 PM *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi****
** **
** **
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:* ***
This is utter rubbish. I have traveled through many cities in the west and I have never found one that you have to pay to take photos with a hand held. In some places I have even asked cops to pose in the shot and they do it so gladly.****
** **
Do they have Al-Shabab there? Or Nyeri women who might take exception to being caught in the background?****
** **
Mblayo****
****
** ** ------------------------------
*From: *"stephen wanjau" <wanjaustev@gmail.com>****
*To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>****
*Sent: *Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:50:09 AM****
*Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi****
Hello,
I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information!
They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments.
I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation.
After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license.
//Stephen****
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:****
Stephen, please make a visit to City Hall to confirm on actual costs and procedure.****
** **
** **
** **
On 21 February 2012 21:17, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:*** *
Hello,**** Nikon D5100 Digital SLR Camera With 18-55mm VR Lens @ KES 85,000****
//STEPHEN****
** **
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:****
On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please let me know. ****
** **
../bernard****
** **
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:****
Hello,
We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on.
Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say.
If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web.
These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely.
Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount.
Thank you for your feedback about this.
Regards, Stephen.****
On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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How does charging for photos or requiring a license increase security? On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 16:24, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
dude, your email client is the worsetest. subject keep changing
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Kimani : TransTech " Love For Tech Stuff" <techstuff@transtech.co.ke> wrote:
Stephen and Mblayo,****
** **
Why do you want to just go to the street and take photos of Our buildings and not follow such a simple procedure****
** **
Actually if you go to Ministry of Information or ICT board, you can get a letter from Bitange or Paul Kukubo that can even enable you get a waiver on these costs that you are sooo complaining about****
** **
How do you want to spend a day photographing our buildings and we don’t know who the hell you are.****
** **
Kindly respect and follow procedure. Don’t see the CCN and Central Police and a bother…..they aren’t****
** **
@ Mblayo…I don’t know what cities that you are talking about….about I know every city has Non Photography areas….and for Nairobi, all our buildings are Non Photography areas unless you have authorization.****
** **
I was with a group of Kenyans in Newyork in 2010 and they decided to take pics of a beautiful bridge as we got to NY...we were in a car…..and that guy really sweated his small cloth explaining that he is an innocent kenyan on an exchange program……****
** **
** **
Lastly…Mblayo… The Nyeri women comments isn’t good. Such a stereotype that we are all cracking a joke about, happened in 2006-2007 when some people were called “ Madoadoa” and you well know what happened in Dec 2007- Feb 2008.****
** **
Thanks and go and get the correct authorization. Kudos steve for your consistency****
** **
** **
Kimani Maina****
** **
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Brian Munyao Longwe *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:47 PM *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi****
** **
** **
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote: ****
This is utter rubbish. I have traveled through many cities in the west and I have never found one that you have to pay to take photos with a hand held. In some places I have even asked cops to pose in the shot and they do it so gladly.****
** **
Do they have Al-Shabab there? Or Nyeri women who might take exception to being caught in the background?****
** **
Mblayo****
****
** ** ------------------------------
*From: *"stephen wanjau" <wanjaustev@gmail.com>****
*To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>****
*Sent: *Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:50:09 AM****
*Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Taking Photos in Nairobi****
Hello,
I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information!
They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments.
I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation.
After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license.
//Stephen****
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:****
Stephen, please make a visit to City Hall to confirm on actual costs and procedure.****
** **
** **
** **
On 21 February 2012 21:17, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:** **
Hello,**** Nikon D5100 Digital SLR Camera With 18-55mm VR Lens @ KES 85,000****
//STEPHEN****
** **
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:****
On a different note, if anyone's selling a Nikon D5100 please let me know. ****
** **
../bernard****
** **
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:55 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:****
Hello,
We are a group of volunteers under the umbrella of Wikimedia foundation which is non-profit. We will be having no tripods just simple DSLRs like the Nikon D5000, smartphone cameras and so on.
Someone charging me for 4K+10K per street is totally insane. So to say.
If anything we will be doing a great task of putting Kenya's capital on the web.
These images shall later be uploaded to WikiCommons under the CC license which implies they are free for reuse either commercially or freely.
Anyhu, I will make a point of going to Central police station because of the current invasion by KDF into Somalia. Plus the CCN who am sure will charge some amount.
Thank you for your feedback about this.
Regards, Stephen.****
On 2/14/12, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Thanks guys for the heads up.
I guess I need to have eyes at the back of my head when I come to Nairobi with my camera. I think its high time they changed their attitude and realize times have changed.
It gets worse. It was a big deal for me once at Kinshasa airport, when they were searching through my laptop bag, and my camera was inside it. Some idiot cops/customs guys harassed me, saying I needed a permit. So I told them to show me where to apply and pay, and reminded them I'd need two more permits for my phones too, since they both have cameras. And I proceeded to ask other travellers if they had permits for their phones too.....I pissed them off so much they had to let me go.
Of course no such permit was required, they were just hoping I'd panic and pay up...
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello,
I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information!
They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments.
I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation.
After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license.
You are trying to follow the letter of the law. Unfortunately, i think even if you had the neccessary permits you would still be harassed if you are at the wrong place at the wrong time,since the ones enforcing the law dont respect it themselves. So you are perhaps better of taking a chance and not getting any permits just walking around taking pictures. I used to do photo walks with friends ( http://www.flickr.com/groups/nairobistreetshooters ) we have never actually been harassed ; but with the post terrorism paranoia epidemic going around, i think walking around with a camera in town maybe a bad idea.
How is the photo thing going on, i dont want to miss it feed me pls cheers Michelle On 22/02/2012, ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello,
I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information!
They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments.
I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation.
After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license.
You are trying to follow the letter of the law. Unfortunately, i think even if you had the neccessary permits you would still be harassed if you are at the wrong place at the wrong time,since the ones enforcing the law dont respect it themselves. So you are perhaps better of taking a chance and not getting any permits just walking around taking pictures.
I used to do photo walks with friends ( http://www.flickr.com/groups/nairobistreetshooters ) we have never actually been harassed ; but with the post terrorism paranoia epidemic going around, i think walking around with a camera in town maybe a bad idea.
-- Shivu M
Maybe you guys can contact the Town Clerk, and talk to him. He may help On 22 February 2012 14:22, Michelle Shivu <shivumich89@gmail.com> wrote:
How is the photo thing going on, i dont want to miss it feed me pls
cheers Michelle
On 22/02/2012, ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information!
They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments.
I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation.
After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license.
You are trying to follow the letter of the law. Unfortunately, i think even if you had the neccessary permits you would still be harassed if you are at the wrong place at the wrong time,since the ones enforcing the law dont respect it themselves. So you are perhaps better of taking a chance and not getting any permits just walking around taking pictures.
I used to do photo walks with friends ( http://www.flickr.com/groups/nairobistreetshooters ) we have never actually been harassed ; but with the post terrorism paranoia epidemic going around, i think walking around with a camera in town maybe a bad idea.
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@odhiambo:: totally offlist hehehe Cheers. On 22 February 2012 15:55, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe you guys can contact the Town Clerk, and talk to him. He may help
On 22 February 2012 14:22, Michelle Shivu <shivumich89@gmail.com> wrote:
How is the photo thing going on, i dont want to miss it feed me pls
cheers Michelle
On 22/02/2012, ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I actually visited the City council and they advised me that I needed a letter from the Ministry of information!
They usually charge 2600KES per day for taking pictures of buildings and monuments.
I was wondering why they should have such bureaucratic processes while for my case am doing this on a voluntary capacity for a non-commercial endeavor under the umbrella of the Wikimedia Foundation.
After capturing the photos I will upload them to WikiCommons under the CC license.
You are trying to follow the letter of the law. Unfortunately, i think even if you had the neccessary permits you would still be harassed if you are at the wrong place at the wrong time,since the ones enforcing the law dont respect it themselves. So you are perhaps better of taking a chance and not getting any permits just walking around taking pictures.
I used to do photo walks with friends ( http://www.flickr.com/groups/nairobistreetshooters ) we have never actually been harassed ; but with the post terrorism paranoia epidemic going around, i think walking around with a camera in town maybe a bad idea.
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On 14 February 2012 11:57, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Are you kidding? Are those rates for movie or television productions or do they apply to someone (tourist) walking around with a hand camera or worse mobile phone? Coz if its the latter that's total bull.
City council licenses are ambiguos to say the least for example a couple of years ago when you'd go to get a business permit, they did not have any IT related categories, all they had were lawyer, doctor, farmer, accountant etc. So tech fell under "miscellaneous". The problem was, there were various types of miscellaneous. One was around 5k per year another was closer to 30k per year. Which one you were billed depended completely on whoever was serving you that day!
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