Ladies and Gentlemen, I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000. 14 days to go... I am moving to Airtel. What about you? Timo.
Been there, done that On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
You can't move to a network where you already are. FYI Airtel has waved porting fees so you can move bila charge. Hear this is one of the reasons why they want the CCK DG out ... sad so sad. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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But the DG has been helping their case
I think we have watched this movie before ________________________________ From: Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you? Been there, done that On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
wait,there is fees to migrate?? On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Chips Funga <chips.funga@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
------------------------------ *From:* Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Oh...you mean I am already in Airtel with my 0722 prefix? Does this mean that from 1st I will just cross the road quietly from Safaricom to Airtel? On 3/17/11, Chips Funga <chips.funga@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
________________________________ From: Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
im sticking around, those pleasant chaps from sales bought me tea at serena, showed me a couple of slideshows on MPLS and cloud and promised to give a datacenter like.no.other on thika road, they also showed me their affordable video conferencing solution (USD500 per hour) where i had a chance to chat with a pleasant looking lady at kampala in real time, with nice voice sensitive cameras showing such detail (imaaaaaagine). now, unless zain waves something else at me (not just lower "prices"), ill stick around. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Oh...you mean I am already in Airtel with my 0722 prefix?
Does this mean that from 1st I will just cross the road quietly from Safaricom to Airtel?
On 3/17/11, Chips Funga <chips.funga@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
________________________________ From: Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com
wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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every move to another network should cost about 200/- On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:19 PM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
im sticking around, those pleasant chaps from sales bought me tea at serena, showed me a couple of slideshows on MPLS and cloud and promised to give a datacenter like.no.other on thika road, they also showed me their affordable video conferencing solution (USD500 per hour) where i had a chance to chat with a pleasant looking lady at kampala in real time, with nice voice sensitive cameras showing such detail (imaaaaaagine).
now, unless zain waves something else at me (not just lower "prices"), ill stick around.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Oh...you mean I am already in Airtel with my 0722 prefix?
Does this mean that from 1st I will just cross the road quietly from Safaricom to Airtel?
On 3/17/11, Chips Funga <chips.funga@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
________________________________ From: Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi < timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
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Been there done that too. But will be interesting to watch the migrations. I see Kenyans taking the famous "serengeti<->masai mara wildbeest migration" to the new levels in Telecoms now I Propose we call it "The great mobilee migration". Which side will be the breeding grounds i wonder? and what will be "crossing the crocs invested mara river? Its wait and see! Shad ________________________________ From: [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 5:19:48 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you? im sticking around, those pleasant chaps from sales bought me tea at serena, showed me a couple of slideshows on MPLS and cloud and promised to give a datacenter like.no.other on thika road, they also showed me their affordable video conferencing solution (USD500 per hour) where i had a chance to chat with a pleasant looking lady at kampala in real time, with nice voice sensitive cameras showing such detail (imaaaaaagine). now, unless zain waves something else at me (not just lower "prices"), ill stick around. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote: Oh...you mean I am already in Airtel with my 0722 prefix?
Does this mean that from 1st I will just cross the road quietly from Safaricom to Airtel?
On 3/17/11, Chips Funga <chips.funga@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
________________________________ From: Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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@washington: I think you have raised some very important points... This has also made me wonder about M-pesa and so on...will I maintain the same Safaricom SIM card or will I be issued with an Airtel SIM card... Oh my, I can foresee a lot of confusion on April 1st (which is also conveniently April Fools day) I personally think at the end of the day people will move to the cheapest network, even it it is cheaper by 50cts. And don't forget our "peculiar calling habits" Timo. On 3/17/11, Shadrack Mwaniki <shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote:
Been there done that too. But will be interesting to watch the migrations.
I see Kenyans taking the famous "serengeti<->masai mara wildbeest migration" to the new levels in Telecoms now I Propose we call it "The great mobilee migration".
Which side will be the breeding grounds i wonder? and what will be "crossing the crocs invested mara river?
Its wait and see!
Shad
________________________________ From: [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 5:19:48 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
im sticking around, those pleasant chaps from sales bought me tea at serena, showed me a couple of slideshows on MPLS and cloud and promised to give a datacenter like.no.other on thika road, they also showed me their affordable video conferencing solution (USD500 per hour) where i had a chance to chat with a pleasant looking lady at kampala in real time, with nice voice sensitive cameras showing such detail (imaaaaaagine).
now, unless zain waves something else at me (not just lower "prices"), ill stick around.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh...you mean I am already in Airtel with my 0722 prefix?
Does this mean that from 1st I will just cross the road quietly from Safaricom to Airtel?
On 3/17/11, Chips Funga <chips.funga@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
________________________________ From: Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”
~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696
Only the no. is maintained. Otherwise you leave all the services you enjoy on the old network. If you are moving from Safaricom to Airtel, No m-pesa, okoa jahazi, no 3g. . just your convenient no. Am personally moving nowhere. . . On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
@washington: I think you have raised some very important points...
This has also made me wonder about M-pesa and so on...will I maintain the same Safaricom SIM card or will I be issued with an Airtel SIM card...
Oh my, I can foresee a lot of confusion on April 1st (which is also conveniently April Fools day)
I personally think at the end of the day people will move to the cheapest network, even it it is cheaper by 50cts.
And don't forget our "peculiar calling habits"
Timo.
On 3/17/11, Shadrack Mwaniki <shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote:
Been there done that too. But will be interesting to watch the migrations.
I see Kenyans taking the famous "serengeti<->masai mara wildbeest migration" to the new levels in Telecoms now I Propose we call it "The great mobilee migration".
Which side will be the breeding grounds i wonder? and what will be "crossing the crocs invested mara river?
Its wait and see!
Shad
________________________________ From: [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 5:19:48 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
im sticking around, those pleasant chaps from sales bought me tea at serena, showed me a couple of slideshows on MPLS and cloud and promised to give a datacenter like.no.other on thika road, they also showed me their affordable video conferencing solution (USD500 per hour) where i had a chance to chat with a pleasant looking lady at kampala in real time, with nice voice sensitive cameras showing such detail (imaaaaaagine).
now, unless zain waves something else at me (not just lower "prices"), ill stick around.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com
wrote:
Oh...you mean I am already in Airtel with my 0722 prefix?
Does this mean that from 1st I will just cross the road quietly from Safaricom to Airtel?
On 3/17/11, Chips Funga <chips.funga@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
________________________________ From: Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <
timothymutugi@gmail.com>
wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696
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M-Pesa is definitely a differentiator and all Safaricom will have to say is that if you port you loose your MPESA account, that will kill migration on the spot. No matter how unreliable, intermittent the service is, it is the only reason why some of us still have the line. If you need to enjoy airtel rates, you get another sim card, which is where we are at the moment. It's no wonder they are quiet about this whole thing. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Only the no. is maintained. Otherwise you leave all the services you enjoy on the old network. If you are moving from Safaricom to Airtel, No m-pesa, okoa jahazi, no 3g. . just your convenient no. Am personally moving nowhere. . .
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:
@washington: I think you have raised some very important points...
This has also made me wonder about M-pesa and so on...will I maintain the same Safaricom SIM card or will I be issued with an Airtel SIM card...
Oh my, I can foresee a lot of confusion on April 1st (which is also conveniently April Fools day)
I personally think at the end of the day people will move to the cheapest network, even it it is cheaper by 50cts.
And don't forget our "peculiar calling habits"
Timo.
On 3/17/11, Shadrack Mwaniki <shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote:
Been there done that too. But will be interesting to watch the migrations.
I see Kenyans taking the famous "serengeti<->masai mara wildbeest migration" to the new levels in Telecoms now I Propose we call it "The great mobilee migration".
Which side will be the breeding grounds i wonder? and what will be "crossing the crocs invested mara river?
Its wait and see!
Shad
________________________________ From: [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 5:19:48 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
im sticking around, those pleasant chaps from sales bought me tea at serena, showed me a couple of slideshows on MPLS and cloud and promised to give a datacenter like.no.other on thika road, they also showed me their affordable video conferencing solution (USD500 per hour) where i had a chance to chat with a pleasant looking lady at kampala in real time, with nice voice sensitive cameras showing such detail (imaaaaaagine).
now, unless zain waves something else at me (not just lower "prices"), ill stick around.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh...you mean I am already in Airtel with my 0722 prefix?
Does this mean that from 1st I will just cross the road quietly from Safaricom to Airtel?
On 3/17/11, Chips Funga <chips.funga@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
________________________________ From: Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”
~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696
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Video conferencing at $500 an hour??? another thing, doesnt skype do that already? --------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com =================== ----- "[Brainiac]" <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
im sticking around, those pleasant chaps from sales bought me tea at serena, showed me a couple of slideshows on MPLS and cloud and promised to give a datacenter like.no.other on thika road, they also showed me their affordable video conferencing solution (USD500 per hour) where i had a chance to chat with a pleasant looking lady at kampala in real time, with nice voice sensitive cameras showing such detail (imaaaaaagine).
now, unless zain waves something else at me (not just lower "prices"), ill stick around.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Timothy Mutugi < timothymutugi@gmail.com > wrote:
Oh...you mean I am already in Airtel with my 0722 prefix?
Does this mean that from 1st I will just cross the road quietly from Safaricom to Airtel?
On 3/17/11, Chips Funga < chips.funga@yahoo.com > wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
________________________________ From: Paul Kevin < paultitude@gmail.com > To: Skunkworks Mailing List < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi < timothymutugi@gmail.com > wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Timo. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co..ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696
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Video conferencing at $500 an hour??? another thing, doesnt skype do that already?
youll have to ask me another one cause visibly, guys were excited. IT chaps from the who is who in manufacturing. Ow, and the 5reds is one side, cause on the other end the dude / lady will also have to cough a similar amount for his end. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
--------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com ===================
----- "[Brainiac]" <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
im sticking around, those pleasant chaps from sales bought me tea at serena, showed me a couple of slideshows on MPLS and cloud and promised to give a datacenter like.no.other on thika road, they also showed me their affordable video conferencing solution (USD500 per hour) where i had a chance to chat with a pleasant looking lady at kampala in real time, with nice voice sensitive cameras showing such detail (imaaaaaagine).
now, unless zain waves something else at me (not just lower "prices"), ill stick around.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com wrote:
Oh...you mean I am already in Airtel with my 0722 prefix?
Does this mean that from 1st I will just cross the road quietly from Safaricom to Airtel?
On 3/17/11, Chips Funga <chips.funga@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
________________________________ From: Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <
timothymutugi@gmail.com>
wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
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@Brainiac, 5 reds X 2.... now that hurts. --------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com ==================== ----- "[Brainiac]" <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Video conferencing at $500 an hour??? another thing, doesnt skype do that already? youll have to ask me another one cause visibly, guys were excited. IT chaps from the who is who in manufacturing.. Ow, and the 5reds is one side, cause on the other end the dude / lady will also have to cough a similar amount for his end.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote:
--------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com ===================
----- "[Brainiac]" < arebacollins@gmail.com > wrote:
im sticking around, those pleasant chaps from sales bought me tea at serena, showed me a couple of slideshows on MPLS and cloud and promised to give a datacenter like.no.other on thika road, they also showed me their affordable video conferencing solution (USD500 per hour) where i had a chance to chat with a pleasant looking lady at kampala in real time, with nice voice sensitive cameras showing such detail (imaaaaaagine).
now, unless zain waves something else at me (not just lower "prices"), ill stick around.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Timothy Mutugi < timothymutugi@gmail.com > wrote:
Oh...you mean I am already in Airtel with my 0722 prefix?
Does this mean that from 1st I will just cross the road quietly from Safaricom to Airtel?
On 3/17/11, Chips Funga < chips.funga@yahoo.com > wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
________________________________ From: Paul Kevin < paultitude@gmail.com > To: Skunkworks Mailing List < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi < timothymutugi@gmail.com > wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
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if safaricom made pancakes and sold them at 250/- a piece, everyone will be excited about it and will que at all safaricom outlets for the pancakes. $500 an hour is on the higher side ( unless they serve a 3 course meal during the conference) On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:47 PM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Video conferencing at $500 an hour??? another thing, doesnt skype do that
already?
youll have to ask me another one cause visibly, guys were excited. IT chaps from the who is who in manufacturing. Ow, and the 5reds is one side, cause on the other end the dude / lady will also have to cough a similar amount for his end.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
--------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com ===================
----- "[Brainiac]" <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
im sticking around, those pleasant chaps from sales bought me tea at serena, showed me a couple of slideshows on MPLS and cloud and promised to give a datacenter like.no.other on thika road, they also showed me their affordable video conferencing solution (USD500 per hour) where i had a chance to chat with a pleasant looking lady at kampala in real time, with nice voice sensitive cameras showing such detail (imaaaaaagine).
now, unless zain waves something else at me (not just lower "prices"), ill stick around.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Timothy Mutugi <
timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh...you mean I am already in Airtel with my 0722 prefix?
Does this mean that from 1st I will just cross the road quietly from Safaricom to Airtel?
On 3/17/11, Chips Funga <chips.funga@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we have watched this movie before
________________________________ From: Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
Been there, done that
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Timothy Mutugi <
timothymutugi@gmail.com>
wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
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On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 16:31, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Wait a moment! There is this stupid network (I mean it) named YU. Suppose I move with my number, and I experience some problem, who do I call for help? Do I still call YU?? When I lose my SIM card after porting the number, who do I call?? Just to qualify my position about YU, I lost my phone recently (a twin SIM phone) and called them for help. I spoke to two different Customer Care Reps at two different times. Besides asking for and getting proof of my identity (ID Card Number), SIM Card holder number (aka serial or something), they still insisted that I give them 3 numbers that I call "regularly". Now, on this "regularly" thing, I don't use their network that much, but I could give them only TWO numbers I have called using their network! They could find those in their logs, yes, but they insisted I MUST give *three* numbers. No amount of reasoning would convince them that I am the genuine owner of that line. Now, that is what I call stupid, because from that day, I decided to let go of their network for G!! When CS Reps are made NOT to think out of the box, you have no chance, like I realized. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
I dont know where im going but im leaving safcom On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 16:31, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Wait a moment! There is this stupid network (I mean it) named YU. Suppose I move with my number, and I experience some problem, who do I call for help? Do I still call YU?? When I lose my SIM card after porting the number, who do I call??
Just to qualify my position about YU, I lost my phone recently (a twin SIM phone) and called them for help. I spoke to two different Customer Care Reps at two different times. Besides asking for and getting proof of my identity (ID Card Number), SIM Card holder number (aka serial or something), they still insisted that I give them 3 numbers that I call "regularly". Now, on this "regularly" thing, I don't use their network that much, but I could give them only TWO numbers I have called using their network! They could find those in their logs, yes, but they insisted I MUST give *three* numbers. No amount of reasoning would convince them that I am the genuine owner of that line. Now, that is what I call stupid, because from that day, I decided to let go of their network for G!! When CS Reps are made NOT to think out of the box, you have no chance, like I realized.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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I hope Airtel switch to 3G soon. Mpesa is the main reason most people will stay with Safaricom. This is a great time for Tangaza <https://www.tangaza321.com/tan/> to boost their marketing. They offer mobile money services (like Mpesa) and you can be on any network. 2011/3/17 Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com>
I dont know where im going but im leaving safcom
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 16:31, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Wait a moment! There is this stupid network (I mean it) named YU. Suppose I move with my number, and I experience some problem, who do I call for help? Do I still call YU?? When I lose my SIM card after porting the number, who do I call??
Just to qualify my position about YU, I lost my phone recently (a twin SIM phone) and called them for help. I spoke to two different Customer Care Reps at two different times. Besides asking for and getting proof of my identity (ID Card Number), SIM Card holder number (aka serial or something), they still insisted that I give them 3 numbers that I call "regularly". Now, on this "regularly" thing, I don't use their network that much, but I could give them only TWO numbers I have called using their network! They could find those in their logs, yes, but they insisted I MUST give *three* numbers. No amount of reasoning would convince them that I am the genuine owner of that line. Now, that is what I call stupid, because from that day, I decided to let go of their network for G!! When CS Reps are made NOT to think out of the box, you have no chance, like I realized.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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if im ever to move, it would be to EVDO, but im not soo sure number portability applies to that. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
I hope Airtel switch to 3G soon. Mpesa is the main reason most people will stay with Safaricom. This is a great time for Tangaza <https://www.tangaza321.com/tan/> to boost their marketing. They offer mobile money services (like Mpesa) and you can be on any network.
2011/3/17 Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com>
I dont know where im going but im leaving safcom
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 16:31, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
14 days to go...
I am moving to Airtel.
What about you?
Wait a moment! There is this stupid network (I mean it) named YU. Suppose I move with my number, and I experience some problem, who do I call for help? Do I still call YU?? When I lose my SIM card after porting the number, who do I call??
Just to qualify my position about YU, I lost my phone recently (a twin SIM phone) and called them for help. I spoke to two different Customer Care Reps at two different times. Besides asking for and getting proof of my identity (ID Card Number), SIM Card holder number (aka serial or something), they still insisted that I give them 3 numbers that I call "regularly". Now, on this "regularly" thing, I don't use their network that much, but I could give them only TWO numbers I have called using their network! They could find those in their logs, yes, but they insisted I MUST give *three* numbers. No amount of reasoning would convince them that I am the genuine owner of that line. Now, that is what I call stupid, because from that day, I decided to let go of their network for G!! When CS Reps are made NOT to think out of the box, you have no chance, like I realized.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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2 cents.. Number porting only becomes economically relevant when you are being called on a number that is permanently known to the rest of the world and more so IF you incur charges when being called e.g. Toll Free or Toll shared numbers for contact centres. I don't see this new service having such a great impact on things as they are today ... This is because 1. Almost everyone I know originally had a Safaricom Number 2. When the war began the same people maintained their Safaricom Number and bought another line (ALTERNATIVE) to make cheaper calls / sms. The other line in order of preference Airtel, Yu then Orange 3. Most of the people known to these people by now know the ALTERNATIVE number for the sake of making On-Net calls (Cheapest) Now come number portability do you think majority will port any of their lines to any other network ... for the sake of making cheap er calls from THAT line .. Personally, I will keep the original SIM/prefix for the original network. There are many un-answered questions in the porting service that need to be considered. 1. How long does the porting process take ? a week or 2, ? 2. More importantly will one be able to communicate with the line as the process is taking place 3. What happens to one's airtime on the existing network when porting ? Does it disappear or will it be converted to shilling for shilling airtime on the porting network ? 4. On the same thought ... Will post paid customers with a debt on the existing network move with their debt to the new network (I see many defaulters looking into this option) 5. Since CCK has not fully implemented the SIM registration database will one be required to register on the porting network 6. How long should a subscriber stay on the existing network before the number is eligible for porting. These becomes relevant to prodigal sons who port to a network that purportedly looked greener only to find that things are not all that then they would want to port back home... 7. What happens to numbers that have contractual obligations with the provider ? 8. Will the porting be virtual or will one need to get a new SIM card from the porting network with an assigned UPC 9. Can one port a fixed line number / vice versa
we are focusing on moving from SFC to BA, how about BA to SFC: will I (or any other kenyan) be able to enjoy M-PESA services with Kencel (hic) number? On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Kibui <thomas.kibui@gmail.com>wrote:
2 cents.. Number porting only becomes economically relevant when you are being called on a number that is permanently known to the rest of the world and more so IF you incur charges when being called e.g. Toll Free or Toll shared numbers for contact centres.
I don't see this new service having such a great impact on things as they are today ... This is because
1. Almost everyone I know originally had a Safaricom Number 2. When the war began the same people maintained their Safaricom Number and bought another line (ALTERNATIVE) to make cheaper calls / sms. The other line in order of preference Airtel, Yu then Orange 3. Most of the people known to these people by now know the ALTERNATIVE number for the sake of making On-Net calls (Cheapest)
Now come number portability do you think majority will port any of their lines to any other network ... for the sake of making cheap er calls from THAT line ..
Personally, I will keep the original SIM/prefix for the original network. There are many un-answered questions in the porting service that need to be considered.
1. How long does the porting process take ? a week or 2, ? 2. More importantly will one be able to communicate with the line as the process is taking place 3. What happens to one's airtime on the existing network when porting ? Does it disappear or will it be converted to shilling for shilling airtime on the porting network ? 4. On the same thought ... Will post paid customers with a debt on the existing network move with their debt to the new network (I see many defaulters looking into this option) 5. Since CCK has not fully implemented the SIM registration database will one be required to register on the porting network 6. How long should a subscriber stay on the existing network before the number is eligible for porting. These becomes relevant to prodigal sons who port to a network that purportedly looked greener only to find that things are not all that then they would want to port back home... 7. What happens to numbers that have contractual obligations with the provider ? 8. Will the porting be virtual or will one need to get a new SIM card from the porting network with an assigned UPC 9. Can one port a fixed line number / vice versa
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@Kibui, 1)SLA is 48hrs.Technically, its faster than this but there are other processes that will make it longer.Customers will send a message to an SMS shortcode and visit either a retail agent or an authorised third party agent.The operators risk/revenue assurance will also perform validation.This is important to avoid fraud ,debt validation,etc.There are some grey areas in certain issues E.g Postpay subs in bill arrears, roamers, Okoa jahazi, some fraud-locked subs,line status (active/suspend/idle/etc). 2)There's a chance you'll exist in both INs(both n/ws billing systems).At retail centres, the customers will be given the other network's SIM card.There will be a notification on your old SIM card informing whether the process is successful or not. So dont throw your old SIM yet. 3) The rules encourage you to consume your balance otherwise it forfeited. The old n/w is not obligated to refunds. 4) Porting will be denied in this case. 5)CCK will take this opportunity to do some registrations.Also, the recipients n/w will take this advantage. When it becomes legal, CCK will enforce registration at the porting stage. 6) The first time you will be allowed to port out.but within 14 days the customers is given an opportunity to go back to old n/w.After this, you will have to remain in the other n/w for 60 days before another port,either back or to another n/w. 7) If you ar epostpay, you have to honour the contract otherwise accept penalties.Mpesa/Zap/Orange Money/Yu Cash are also contracts which the old n/w will have to pay before allowing the customer to port. 8) New n/w will issue a new SIM card. In MNP, only the MSISDN is moving not the SIM's IMSI, ICCID,etc Otherwise, you wont be able to perform location update. 9) Not possible. Mobile Number Portability.......key word is mobile . ./bernard On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Kibui <thomas.kibui@gmail.com>wrote:
2 cents.. Number porting only becomes economically relevant when you are being called on a number that is permanently known to the rest of the world and more so IF you incur charges when being called e.g. Toll Free or Toll shared numbers for contact centres.
I don't see this new service having such a great impact on things as they are today ... This is because
1. Almost everyone I know originally had a Safaricom Number 2. When the war began the same people maintained their Safaricom Number and bought another line (ALTERNATIVE) to make cheaper calls / sms. The other line in order of preference Airtel, Yu then Orange 3. Most of the people known to these people by now know the ALTERNATIVE number for the sake of making On-Net calls (Cheapest)
Now come number portability do you think majority will port any of their lines to any other network ... for the sake of making cheap er calls from THAT line ..
Personally, I will keep the original SIM/prefix for the original network. There are many un-answered questions in the porting service that need to be considered.
1. How long does the porting process take ? a week or 2, ? 2. More importantly will one be able to communicate with the line as the process is taking place 3. What happens to one's airtime on the existing network when porting ? Does it disappear or will it be converted to shilling for shilling airtime on the porting network ? 4. On the same thought ... Will post paid customers with a debt on the existing network move with their debt to the new network (I see many defaulters looking into this option) 5. Since CCK has not fully implemented the SIM registration database will one be required to register on the porting network 6. How long should a subscriber stay on the existing network before the number is eligible for porting. These becomes relevant to prodigal sons who port to a network that purportedly looked greener only to find that things are not all that then they would want to port back home... 7. What happens to numbers that have contractual obligations with the provider ? 8. Will the porting be virtual or will one need to get a new SIM card from the porting network with an assigned UPC 9. Can one port a fixed line number / vice versa
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Correction point number 2) You will be given the other n/w's SIM at the other n/w's retail centre/authorised agent. ./bernard On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
@Kibui,
1)SLA is 48hrs.Technically, its faster than this but there are other processes that will make it longer.Customers will send a message to an SMS shortcode and visit either a retail agent or an authorised third party agent.The operators risk/revenue assurance will also perform validation.This is important to avoid fraud ,debt validation,etc.There are some grey areas in certain issues E.g Postpay subs in bill arrears, roamers, Okoa jahazi, some fraud-locked subs,line status (active/suspend/idle/etc).
2)There's a chance you'll exist in both INs(both n/ws billing systems).At retail centres, the customers will be given the other network's SIM card.There will be a notification on your old SIM card informing whether the process is successful or not. So dont throw your old SIM yet.
3) The rules encourage you to consume your balance otherwise it forfeited. The old n/w is not obligated to refunds.
4) Porting will be denied in this case.
5)CCK will take this opportunity to do some registrations.Also, the recipients n/w will take this advantage. When it becomes legal, CCK will enforce registration at the porting stage.
6) The first time you will be allowed to port out.but within 14 days the customers is given an opportunity to go back to old n/w.After this, you will have to remain in the other n/w for 60 days before another port,either back or to another n/w.
7) If you ar epostpay, you have to honour the contract otherwise accept penalties.Mpesa/Zap/Orange Money/Yu Cash are also contracts which the old n/w will have to pay before allowing the customer to port.
8) New n/w will issue a new SIM card. In MNP, only the MSISDN is moving not the SIM's IMSI, ICCID,etc Otherwise, you wont be able to perform location update.
9) Not possible. Mobile Number Portability.......key word is mobile .
./bernard
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Kibui <thomas.kibui@gmail.com>wrote:
2 cents.. Number porting only becomes economically relevant when you are being called on a number that is permanently known to the rest of the world and more so IF you incur charges when being called e.g. Toll Free or Toll shared numbers for contact centres.
I don't see this new service having such a great impact on things as they are today ... This is because
1. Almost everyone I know originally had a Safaricom Number 2. When the war began the same people maintained their Safaricom Number and bought another line (ALTERNATIVE) to make cheaper calls / sms. The other line in order of preference Airtel, Yu then Orange 3. Most of the people known to these people by now know the ALTERNATIVE number for the sake of making On-Net calls (Cheapest)
Now come number portability do you think majority will port any of their lines to any other network ... for the sake of making cheap er calls from THAT line ..
Personally, I will keep the original SIM/prefix for the original network. There are many un-answered questions in the porting service that need to be considered.
1. How long does the porting process take ? a week or 2, ? 2. More importantly will one be able to communicate with the line as the process is taking place 3. What happens to one's airtime on the existing network when porting ? Does it disappear or will it be converted to shilling for shilling airtime on the porting network ? 4. On the same thought ... Will post paid customers with a debt on the existing network move with their debt to the new network (I see many defaulters looking into this option) 5. Since CCK has not fully implemented the SIM registration database will one be required to register on the porting network 6. How long should a subscriber stay on the existing network before the number is eligible for porting. These becomes relevant to prodigal sons who port to a network that purportedly looked greener only to find that things are not all that then they would want to port back home... 7. What happens to numbers that have contractual obligations with the provider ? 8. Will the porting be virtual or will one need to get a new SIM card from the porting network with an assigned UPC 9. Can one port a fixed line number / vice versa
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Thanks Bernard ..
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