Maling List Colleagues, Below is detailed response from the Digital Kenya Secretariat - very much appreciated. Does anyone know where I can buy a digital set top box in readiness for the test period or is it a business opportunity for me to fly to China. Mr Ambani do you know of any ? Kevin On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Ambani, Alfred <Ambani@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Dear Kevin
Thanks for your email copied to Digital Kenya secretariat
We would like to inform you as follows;
(i) The launch of the digital signal in Nairobi by KBC earlier scheduled for October 2009 was delayed due to delays in customs clearance of the digital transmission equipment. The signal is now scheduled to go on air officially just before the Jamhuri Holiday, but test transmissions shall commence early December
(ii) All the existing TV stations that are currently broadcasting on analogue platform in Nairobi will be accommodated on the digital platform so that more or less the same content is transmitted in both analogue and digital format (simulcast). At the end of simulcast period, the CCK shall instruct broadcasters to shut down analogue TV transmitters and the future shall be all digital. The spare capacity on the multiplex will be taken by 2 or three new stations
(iii) The supply of set top boxes will be left to the free market since the STBs are generally considered as consumer electronics and the CCK does not see any immediate need to intervene (but will monitor the market and if need arises, will institute whatever regulatory measures it thinks fit). In this regard, public notices were placed in the newspapers to inform interested persons on the opportunity to supply STB provided they comply with the minimum specifications issued by the CCK in conjunction with Digital Transition Committee. A copy of the public notice and the said specifications are available on the CCK website www.cck.go.ke for downloading by interested persons. We do not intent to control prices of STB but will leave to free market forces. In the near future, we may avail info on our website on names/contacts of the retailers, STB models in the market and perhaps their local prices for consumers to make reference to
(iv) As indicated above, the specifications have been provided and KEBS is also in the picture as a national standards body. CCK will also carry out surveillance to determine the quality of STBs from time to time. In a nutshell, CCK will be the main focus in terms of standards as broadcasting is under its mandate
(v) The issue of subsidy has been pursued with the Ministry of Information & Communication making specific proposals to Finance Ministry to consider zero rating taxes on STBs and digital broadcast equipment. The matter is still under consideration by the Finance Ministry and we are positive certain incentives will eventually be dished out. We are still awaiting official response on the matter
(vi) We beg to disagree on mismanagement of information on the roll-out. Some time back, the Commission in collaboration with the DTC conducted initial awareness compaign on the migration under Digital Kenya Banner, and the consumer education is expected to be rolled out on large scale when the test signal is on the air. You may wish to note that colossal amount of money is necessary to run such campaigns. The digital broadcasting network will be rolled out in phases until the whole country is covered. A lot of information will become available as the project progresses. Also, KBC will in the near future run documentaries on the same so as to raise awareness. Considering that the signal will be available initially only in Nairobi, there is no need to begin massive awareness compaigns in other areas until that time when the service is about to be deployed.
I trust this clarifies your questions. Don’t hesitate to get back to us if you need any further clarifications. Thank you
*From:* Kevin Ouma [mailto:kevin.ouma@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:08 PM *To:* Skunkworks Forum *Cc:* digitalkenya *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Digital Tv
I have cced the digital Kenya secretariat on this communication
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
I also heard on KBC radio that tests would begin any time between November 30th to 12th December.
My questions are
-For which stations will these tests be conducted -Where can people buy the set top decoders knowing that these tests are a week away -Is there a central body to ensure standards of these gadgets -is there subsidy on them
I think the information flow on this rollout is being mismanged
Kevin
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know how the progress of digital tv rollout in the country is goin on? The digital tv secretariat just ran a random ad in telly n that was it . . . They dont even have a site . . . Thought all the tv stations were to start transmitting in digital startin in october . . . And thot they wuld jump on to the freeview bandwagon . . . Anyone wit info includin cost of set-top boxes?
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
Skype : mark.mwangy _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
A company called freeview is selling set-top boxes from the major supermarkets(or so the website says) check it out www.freeview.co.ke On 11/30/09, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
Maling List Colleagues,
Below is detailed response from the Digital Kenya Secretariat - very much appreciated. Does anyone know where I can buy a digital set top box in readiness for the test period or is it a business opportunity for me to fly to China.
Mr Ambani do you know of any ?
Kevin
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Ambani, Alfred <Ambani@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Dear Kevin
Thanks for your email copied to Digital Kenya secretariat
We would like to inform you as follows;
(i) The launch of the digital signal in Nairobi by KBC earlier scheduled for October 2009 was delayed due to delays in customs clearance of the digital transmission equipment. The signal is now scheduled to go on air officially just before the Jamhuri Holiday, but test transmissions shall commence early December
(ii) All the existing TV stations that are currently broadcasting on analogue platform in Nairobi will be accommodated on the digital platform so that more or less the same content is transmitted in both analogue and digital format (simulcast). At the end of simulcast period, the CCK shall instruct broadcasters to shut down analogue TV transmitters and the future shall be all digital. The spare capacity on the multiplex will be taken by 2 or three new stations
(iii) The supply of set top boxes will be left to the free market since the STBs are generally considered as consumer electronics and the CCK does not see any immediate need to intervene (but will monitor the market and if need arises, will institute whatever regulatory measures it thinks fit). In this regard, public notices were placed in the newspapers to inform interested persons on the opportunity to supply STB provided they comply with the minimum specifications issued by the CCK in conjunction with Digital Transition Committee. A copy of the public notice and the said specifications are available on the CCK website www.cck.go.ke for downloading by interested persons. We do not intent to control prices of STB but will leave to free market forces. In the near future, we may avail info on our website on names/contacts of the retailers, STB models in the market and perhaps their local prices for consumers to make reference to
(iv) As indicated above, the specifications have been provided and KEBS is also in the picture as a national standards body. CCK will also carry out surveillance to determine the quality of STBs from time to time. In a nutshell, CCK will be the main focus in terms of standards as broadcasting is under its mandate
(v) The issue of subsidy has been pursued with the Ministry of Information & Communication making specific proposals to Finance Ministry to consider zero rating taxes on STBs and digital broadcast equipment. The matter is still under consideration by the Finance Ministry and we are positive certain incentives will eventually be dished out. We are still awaiting official response on the matter
(vi) We beg to disagree on mismanagement of information on the roll-out. Some time back, the Commission in collaboration with the DTC conducted initial awareness compaign on the migration under Digital Kenya Banner, and the consumer education is expected to be rolled out on large scale when the test signal is on the air. You may wish to note that colossal amount of money is necessary to run such campaigns. The digital broadcasting network will be rolled out in phases until the whole country is covered. A lot of information will become available as the project progresses. Also, KBC will in the near future run documentaries on the same so as to raise awareness. Considering that the signal will be available initially only in Nairobi, there is no need to begin massive awareness compaigns in other areas until that time when the service is about to be deployed.
I trust this clarifies your questions. Don’t hesitate to get back to us if you need any further clarifications. Thank you
*From:* Kevin Ouma [mailto:kevin.ouma@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:08 PM *To:* Skunkworks Forum *Cc:* digitalkenya *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Digital Tv
I have cced the digital Kenya secretariat on this communication
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
I also heard on KBC radio that tests would begin any time between November 30th to 12th December.
My questions are
-For which stations will these tests be conducted -Where can people buy the set top decoders knowing that these tests are a week away -Is there a central body to ensure standards of these gadgets -is there subsidy on them
I think the information flow on this rollout is being mismanged
Kevin
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know how the progress of digital tv rollout in the country is goin on? The digital tv secretariat just ran a random ad in telly n that was it . . . They dont even have a site . . . Thought all the tv stations were to start transmitting in digital startin in october . . . And thot they wuld jump on to the freeview bandwagon . . . Anyone wit info includin cost of set-top boxes?
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
Skype : mark.mwangy _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.wordpress.com Skype : mark.mwangy
The standard used by freeview is Mpeg2 yet the cck recommended standard is Mpeg 4. wonder if this will mean that the cck decoders will be obsolete against the standard being adopted by KBC Regards Kevin On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
A company called freeview is selling set-top boxes from the major supermarkets(or so the website says) check it out www.freeview.co.ke
On 11/30/09, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
Maling List Colleagues,
Below is detailed response from the Digital Kenya Secretariat - very much appreciated. Does anyone know where I can buy a digital set top box in readiness for the test period or is it a business opportunity for me to fly to China.
Mr Ambani do you know of any ?
Kevin
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Ambani, Alfred <Ambani@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Dear Kevin
Thanks for your email copied to Digital Kenya secretariat
We would like to inform you as follows;
(i) The launch of the digital signal in Nairobi by KBC earlier scheduled for October 2009 was delayed due to delays in customs clearance of the digital transmission equipment. The signal is now scheduled to go on air officially just before the Jamhuri Holiday, but test transmissions shall commence early December
(ii) All the existing TV stations that are currently broadcasting on analogue platform in Nairobi will be accommodated on the digital platform so that more or less the same content is transmitted in both analogue and digital format (simulcast). At the end of simulcast period, the CCK shall instruct broadcasters to shut down analogue TV transmitters and the future shall be all digital. The spare capacity on the multiplex will be taken by 2 or three new stations
(iii) The supply of set top boxes will be left to the free market since the STBs are generally considered as consumer electronics and the CCK does not see any immediate need to intervene (but will monitor the market and if need arises, will institute whatever regulatory measures it thinks fit). In this regard, public notices were placed in the newspapers to inform interested persons on the opportunity to supply STB provided they comply with the minimum specifications issued by the CCK in conjunction with Digital Transition Committee. A copy of the public notice and the said specifications are available on the CCK website www.cck.go.ke for downloading by interested persons. We do not intent to control prices of STB but will leave to free market forces. In the near future, we may avail info on our website on names/contacts of the retailers, STB models in the market and perhaps their local prices for consumers to make reference to
(iv) As indicated above, the specifications have been provided and KEBS is also in the picture as a national standards body. CCK will also carry out surveillance to determine the quality of STBs from time to time. In a nutshell, CCK will be the main focus in terms of standards as broadcasting is under its mandate
(v) The issue of subsidy has been pursued with the Ministry of Information & Communication making specific proposals to Finance Ministry to consider zero rating taxes on STBs and digital broadcast equipment. The matter is still under consideration by the Finance Ministry and we are positive certain incentives will eventually be dished out. We are still awaiting official response on the matter
(vi) We beg to disagree on mismanagement of information on the roll-out. Some time back, the Commission in collaboration with the DTC conducted initial awareness compaign on the migration under Digital Kenya Banner, and the consumer education is expected to be rolled out on large scale when the test signal is on the air. You may wish to note that colossal amount of money is necessary to run such campaigns. The digital broadcasting network will be rolled out in phases until the whole country is covered. A lot of information will become available as the project progresses. Also, KBC will in the near future run documentaries on the same so as to raise awareness. Considering that the signal will be available initially only in Nairobi, there is no need to begin massive awareness compaigns in other areas until that time when the service is about to be deployed.
I trust this clarifies your questions. Don’t hesitate to get back to us if you need any further clarifications. Thank you
*From:* Kevin Ouma [mailto:kevin.ouma@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:08 PM *To:* Skunkworks Forum *Cc:* digitalkenya *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Digital Tv
I have cced the digital Kenya secretariat on this communication
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
I also heard on KBC radio that tests would begin any time between November 30th to 12th December.
My questions are
-For which stations will these tests be conducted -Where can people buy the set top decoders knowing that these tests are a week away -Is there a central body to ensure standards of these gadgets -is there subsidy on them
I think the information flow on this rollout is being mismanged
Kevin
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know how the progress of digital tv rollout in the country is goin on? The digital tv secretariat just ran a random ad in telly n that was it . . . They dont even have a site . . . Thought all the tv stations were to start transmitting in digital startin in october . . . And thot they wuld jump on to the freeview bandwagon . . . Anyone wit info includin cost of set-top boxes?
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
Skype : mark.mwangy _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
Skype : mark.mwangy _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
2009/11/30 Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com>
The standard used by freeview is Mpeg2 yet the cck recommended standard is Mpeg 4. wonder if this will mean that the cck decoders will be obsolete against the standard being adopted by KBC
Most probably, or freeview might decide to carry the channels on their frequency too. but beware of Gtv kinds and future charges.
Just got an answer from this KBC article http://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=59924 He urged consumers to consult and buy compatible digital television converter boxes that are approved for the region under the MPEG 4. *"Retailers and dealers in set boxes and other television accessories are also advised to have such boxes that have the required sets of standards" he said.* Kenya and other African countries share the DTI technology with Europe and Middle East. "*We have to adhere to digital terrestrial television (DIT) standards for the county," he said*. Ndemo said the wrong sets of gadgets being sold in the market will not be compatible with the DIT that was launched early this week and called on consumers to insist on warranty when buying them so that they can have them replaced if they fail to work. Regards Kevin Omondi On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/11/30 Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com>
The standard used by freeview is Mpeg2 yet the cck recommended standard is
Mpeg 4. wonder if this will mean that the cck decoders will be obsolete against the standard being adopted by KBC
Most probably, or freeview might decide to carry the channels on their frequency too. but beware of Gtv kinds and future charges.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
@Kevin, besides the DTV aspect, do you know what they are doing about EPG to run on the STBs? Do you guys/gals think time is ripe for embedded devices? Rgds.
Leave alone the set up boxes when are the fully digital TV going to hit the market i can remember Ndemo saying sometime back that there are no digital TV on sale and those that people are saying are Digital its conning... On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Kevin, besides the DTV aspect, do you know what they are doing about EPG to run on the STBs? Do you guys/gals think time is ripe for embedded devices?
Rgds. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
I understand that the government wants to make the Digital TV sales and capitalize on this, just like they did the 'Seat Belts' aka 'Seat Ropes' I also understand that some suppliers who tried to import were kaziwad to import them so that government can... is this true ?
Reliable sources tell me that a number of businessmen have already imported the STBs and waiting for the go ahead ..lets wait and se. Kevin On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:45 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
I understand that the government wants to make the Digital TV sales and capitalize on this, just like they did the 'Seat Belts' aka 'Seat Ropes'
I also understand that some suppliers who tried to import were kaziwad to import them so that government can... is this true ?
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
2009/12/3 ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>
I understand that the government wants to make the Digital TV sales and capitalize on this, just like they did the 'Seat Belts' aka 'Seat Ropes'
I also understand that some suppliers who tried to import were kaziwad to import them so that government can... is this true ?
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
Hearsay & rumours. I saw a unit being sold @ of all places Eastmatt Supermarket in Kitengela. Please knock on wood. [?] I certainly hope you are wrong. Kind regards, -- Lusiola Brian Everyone has photographic memory, not everyone has film though.
steve, isn't that standard procedure of doing business in Kenya. -- with Regards: Get your free technology e-magazine in pdf format: Tekniaonline: http://bit.ly/tekniaonline-2 26 alphabetical pick up lines for dummies, only at: http://gramware.blogspot.com
So where are all those settop boxes we try this new shizel . . Ama this was another Teams? On 12/3/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
steve, isn't that standard procedure of doing business in Kenya.
-- with Regards:
Get your free technology e-magazine in pdf format: Tekniaonline: http://bit.ly/tekniaonline-2
26 alphabetical pick up lines for dummies, only at: http://gramware.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.wordpress.com Skype : mark.mwangy
2009/12/9 Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
So where are all those settop boxes we try this new shizel . . Ama this was another Teams?
On Luthuli Avenue, I guess!!!
On 12/3/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
steve, isn't that standard procedure of doing business in Kenya.
-- with Regards:
Get your free technology e-magazine in pdf format: Tekniaonline: http://bit.ly/tekniaonline-2
26 alphabetical pick up lines for dummies, only at: http://gramware.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
Skype : mark.mwangy _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke
MPEG-4 DVB-T transmission is usually backwards compatible with MPEG-2 receivers depending on the feed coming from the broadcaster - we may have a situation where the lower cost MPEG-2 STBs work alongside the superior MPEG-4 STBs. Let's wait and see.... Brian On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
2009/12/9 Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
So where are all those settop boxes we try this new shizel . . Ama
this was another Teams?
On Luthuli Avenue, I guess!!!
On 12/3/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
steve, isn't that standard procedure of doing business in Kenya.
-- with Regards:
Get your free technology e-magazine in pdf format: Tekniaonline: http://bit.ly/tekniaonline-2
26 alphabetical pick up lines for dummies, only at: http://gramware.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
Skype : mark.mwangy _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
Digital TV -- No local content... We need content... Can KBC fund me to start an animation/puppet series [XYZ style filmed with a green screen background for special madoidos ?] I think they should fund me; so that we can fill all those hypothetical channels...
@aki axtually checked a test signal of the digital TV and must say its a much more clearer signal than what you get on DSTV . Kevin On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:42 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
A a DSTV viewer, I don't need any special antennes, boosters etc. And for
an STB, no need either. DSTV carries channels.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki axtually checked a test signal of the digital TV and must say its a much more clearer signal than what you get on DSTV .
And where did yu get your STB from? At what cost?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
Those new Sony Bravia X Series TV's should be able to receive digital signal without the STBs. I think most people in Kenya are not aware of the Digital TV transition, and I know most households in rural areas do not have television sets. I would love to know the statistics of how many households in rural and urban areas have television sets. I hope the data from the census will give us these statistics. But I think what we lack is content, we may have digital TV but nothing to transmit with it. And it seems since the days of Cobra Squad nothing has been coming out of the local scene lately. We need to develop content, because content is king. In developed countries, the broadcasting companies like BBC, NBC, CBS fund and produce most content they show on their channels. I don't see why KBC or the other broadcasters can not do the same. With more content, you get more viewership, and view-ship means advertising. You also don't have to pay fees to broadcast foreign content.
Ok. Let's be very careful of marketing material. Whereas the TVs can work with free-to-air channels (KBC, KTN, NTV etc), there's something called the Conditional Access which encrypts transmission to ensure that only paid for content can be viewed, best example DSTV. In some instances you may require the STB to support 2 or more CAs or what is referred to as simulcast. Your built in STB may let you down on this one. It maybe inevitable that you'll still need to purchase a set-top box for premium content eg World Cup games, Boxing matches, NBA etc. My recommendation get an STB and whatever tele you want. My 2 cents Kiania D. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Those new Sony Bravia X Series TV's should be able to receive digital signal without the STBs. I think most people in Kenya are not aware of the Digital TV transition, and I know most households in rural areas do not have television sets. I would love to know the statistics of how many households in rural and urban areas have television sets. I hope the data from the census will give us these statistics. But I think what we lack is content, we may have digital TV but nothing to transmit with it. And it seems since the days of Cobra Squad nothing has been coming out of the local scene lately. We need to develop content, because content is king. In developed countries, the broadcasting companies like BBC, NBC, CBS fund and produce most content they show on their channels. I don't see why KBC or the other broadcasters can not do the same. With more content, you get more viewership, and view-ship means advertising. You also don't have to pay fees to broadcast foreign content. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon
I think the build in STBs are pretty advanced nowadays and can handle conditional access and everything else the standalone set top boxes can do. And some are even more advanced than the standalone STBs.
A few questions What will happen to DSTV?Do we need it any more? Some one said we'll have to pay in order to view some TV Stations..Is that true? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:42 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
A a DSTV viewer, I don't need any special antennes, boosters etc. And for
an STB, no need either. DSTV carries channels.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com>wrote:
A few questions
What will happen to DSTV?Do we need it any more? Some one said we'll have to pay in order to view some TV Stations..Is that true?
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:42 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
A a DSTV viewer, I don't need any special antennes, boosters etc. And
for an STB, no need either. DSTV carries channels.
@Lawrence, DSTV will be around as far as I know since its pay tv. So am a bit confused about your question.. -- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
Content is king, and DSTv has content that the free to air Digital or Analogue TV do not have. So DSTv will be around for a very time. It is very difficult to dethrone an emperor. Just ask GTV. I have just noticed the only content the local channels seem to have are those Mexican/South American soap operas which all end the same way.
DVB-T transmission allows a broadcaster who has taken up a channel to partition that channel into a high-priority (HP) and low-priority (LP) broadcast. The HP would usually carry normal standard density (SD) broadcast - generally MPEG-2 whille the LP would carry high-density (HD) - generally MPEG-4 broadcast. It is purely up to the broadcaster to decide what kind of target market and programming they want to send out, then dimension their channel accordingly. Obviously an interesting element is the opportunity to incorporate an interactive aspect into the programming to allow for Video-on-demand or pay-per-view type of programming. The platform is here - let's see how innovative our broadcasters are going to be in terms of delivering a variety of programming that engages and excites the market. Brian On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Content is king, and DSTv has content that the free to air Digital or Analogue TV do not have. So DSTv will be around for a very time. It is very difficult to dethrone an emperor. Just ask GTV. I have just noticed the only content the local channels seem to have are those Mexican/South American soap operas which all end the same way. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
I happened to attend the launch yesterday and the content and distribution issue come up repeatedly. Here are some highlights :- 1) There are 40 TV pending licenses awaiting processing by CCK and over 150 Radio licenses. 2) DVB-T will allow all these stations to be licenses however I highly doubt if the current headend (HE) can take 50 muxes and if this can be done on one HE. 3) This project is broke in 3 phases viz Test and initial launch (happened yesterday), Phase 2 greater Nairobi and Urban/Metro centers and Phase 3 remaining regions needed to achieve countrywide coverage. 4) Kenya has 5 million television sets which form the potential marketsize. There are more TV Sets than internet connections, second only to mobile fones ... 5) Dr. Kamau Gachigi (a skunker) and a team from UON are working on a local spec for manufacture and fabrication of Set-Top-Boxes. I am soo proud of this team. 6) Content is King and this is broadcasting and equipment etc 7) Based on the KBC Tender the provision was for all SD Channels and NO HD. I think premium content will also be based on SD channels at least for the 1st phase. I suggest we do a dedicated skunk session on Digital Terrestrial Television (DTT) and implications where we explore all this issue. We have to be the most informed lot and if possible but the STPs and try it out. These are indeed exciting times. Kiania D On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
DVB-T transmission allows a broadcaster who has taken up a channel to partition that channel into a high-priority (HP) and low-priority (LP) broadcast. The HP would usually carry normal standard density (SD) broadcast - generally MPEG-2 whille the LP would carry high-density (HD) - generally MPEG-4 broadcast. It is purely up to the broadcaster to decide what kind of target market and programming they want to send out, then dimension their channel accordingly.
Obviously an interesting element is the opportunity to incorporate an interactive aspect into the programming to allow for Video-on-demand or pay-per-view type of programming.
The platform is here - let's see how innovative our broadcasters are going to be in terms of delivering a variety of programming that engages and excites the market.
Brian
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Content is king, and DSTv has content that the free to air Digital or Analogue TV do not have. So DSTv will be around for a very time. It is very difficult to dethrone an emperor. Just ask GTV. I have just noticed the only content the local channels seem to have are those Mexican/South American soap operas which all end the same way. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon
I second kiania. . . .am also abit confused as to what will actually change. . .is it to say to get certain channels they wiil charge? or will it be like dstv only that now some will be free while others paid for?. . .in the mean time lemme go look for Dr.Gachigi n see if I can "pox" in that team On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:13 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
I happened to attend the launch yesterday and the content and distribution issue come up repeatedly. Here are some highlights :-
1) There are 40 TV pending licenses awaiting processing by CCK and over 150 Radio licenses.
2) DVB-T will allow all these stations to be licenses however I highly doubt if the current headend (HE) can take 50 muxes and if this can be done on one HE.
3) This project is broke in 3 phases viz Test and initial launch (happened yesterday), Phase 2 greater Nairobi and Urban/Metro centers and Phase 3 remaining regions needed to achieve countrywide coverage.
4) Kenya has 5 million television sets which form the potential marketsize. There are more TV Sets than internet connections, second only to mobile fones ...
5) Dr. Kamau Gachigi (a skunker) and a team from UON are working on a local spec for manufacture and fabrication of Set-Top-Boxes. I am soo proud of this team.
6) Content is King and this is broadcasting and equipment etc
7) Based on the KBC Tender the provision was for all SD Channels and NO HD. I think premium content will also be based on SD channels at least for the 1st phase.
I suggest we do a dedicated skunk session on Digital Terrestrial Television (DTT) and implications where we explore all this issue. We have to be the most informed lot and if possible but the STPs and try it out.
These are indeed exciting times.
Kiania D
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
DVB-T transmission allows a broadcaster who has taken up a channel to partition that channel into a high-priority (HP) and low-priority (LP) broadcast. The HP would usually carry normal standard density (SD) broadcast - generally MPEG-2 whille the LP would carry high-density (HD) - generally MPEG-4 broadcast. It is purely up to the broadcaster to decide what kind of target market and programming they want to send out, then dimension their channel accordingly.
Obviously an interesting element is the opportunity to incorporate an interactive aspect into the programming to allow for Video-on-demand or pay-per-view type of programming.
The platform is here - let's see how innovative our broadcasters are going to be in terms of delivering a variety of programming that engages and excites the market.
Brian
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Content is king, and DSTv has content that the free to air Digital or Analogue TV do not have. So DSTv will be around for a very time. It is
very
difficult to dethrone an emperor. Just ask GTV. I have just noticed the only content the local channels seem to have are those Mexican/South American soap operas which all end the same way. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
--
[Asentric Consulting Ltd]
If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth ....
-Richest Man in Babylon _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.wordpress.com Skype : mark.mwangy
The whole purpose of the transmission is to free up frequency by carrying all stations on a single channel and using the EPG (Electronic Product Guide) to differentiate the channels. This is an ITU directive in which governments must transition by 2015, the freed spectrum will inturn be used for LTE, WiMAX etc Now for the sake of sustainability, the National Broadcaster(s) adopt a mixed model where there are free-to-air channels (KBN, KTN, NTV etc) but also on the same platform carry 'premium' paid for content such as NATGEO, Boxing matches, Soccer etc Yes some channels will be charged for but the rest will be free. The interesting thing is that you'll still have a antenna which will be attached to the STB (Surprise Surprise) and not to burst the bubble further, the image kept freezing so it's still not stable. Kiania On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I second kiania. . . .am also abit confused as to what will actually change. . .is it to say to get certain channels they wiil charge? or will it be like dstv only that now some will be free while others paid for?. . .in the mean time lemme go look for Dr.Gachigi n see if I can "pox" in that team
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:13 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
I happened to attend the launch yesterday and the content and distribution issue come up repeatedly. Here are some highlights :-
1) There are 40 TV pending licenses awaiting processing by CCK and over 150 Radio licenses.
2) DVB-T will allow all these stations to be licenses however I highly doubt if the current headend (HE) can take 50 muxes and if this can be done on one HE.
3) This project is broke in 3 phases viz Test and initial launch (happened yesterday), Phase 2 greater Nairobi and Urban/Metro centers and Phase 3 remaining regions needed to achieve countrywide coverage.
4) Kenya has 5 million television sets which form the potential marketsize. There are more TV Sets than internet connections, second only to mobile fones ...
5) Dr. Kamau Gachigi (a skunker) and a team from UON are working on a local spec for manufacture and fabrication of Set-Top-Boxes. I am soo proud of this team.
6) Content is King and this is broadcasting and equipment etc
7) Based on the KBC Tender the provision was for all SD Channels and NO HD. I think premium content will also be based on SD channels at least for the 1st phase.
I suggest we do a dedicated skunk session on Digital Terrestrial Television (DTT) and implications where we explore all this issue. We have to be the most informed lot and if possible but the STPs and try it out.
These are indeed exciting times.
Kiania D
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
DVB-T transmission allows a broadcaster who has taken up a channel to partition that channel into a high-priority (HP) and low-priority (LP) broadcast. The HP would usually carry normal standard density (SD) broadcast - generally MPEG-2 whille the LP would carry high-density (HD) - generally MPEG-4 broadcast. It is purely up to the broadcaster to decide what kind of target market and programming they want to send out, then dimension their channel accordingly.
Obviously an interesting element is the opportunity to incorporate an interactive aspect into the programming to allow for Video-on-demand or pay-per-view type of programming.
The platform is here - let's see how innovative our broadcasters are going to be in terms of delivering a variety of programming that engages and excites the market.
Brian
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Content is king, and DSTv has content that the free to air Digital or Analogue TV do not have. So DSTv will be around for a very time. It is very difficult to dethrone an emperor. Just ask GTV. I have just noticed the only content the local channels seem to have are those Mexican/South American soap operas which all end the same way. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
--
[Asentric Consulting Ltd]
If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth ....
-Richest Man in Babylon _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
Skype : mark.mwangy
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:32 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
The interesting thing is that you'll still have a antenna which will be attached to the STB (Surprise Surprise) and not to burst the bubble further, the image kept freezing so it's still not stable.
Kiania
@David, I listed this freeze issue a few months ago and Bernard and others added too. Antenne installers who use Bit Error Rate meters will make more sense than those with mere signal strength meters because slight re-pointing on the antennes will be tricky. -- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
@aki I wont be able to use my old rusty regular antenna on the roof? On 12/10/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:32 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
The interesting thing is that you'll still have a antenna which will be attached to the STB (Surprise Surprise) and not to burst the bubble further, the image kept freezing so it's still not stable.
Kiania
@David, I listed this freeze issue a few months ago and Bernard and others added too. Antenne installers who use Bit Error Rate meters will make more sense than those with mere signal strength meters because slight re-pointing on the antennes will be tricky.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
-- Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.wordpress.com Skype : mark.mwangy
For those of you interested in EPG development you'd be interested to know one of the interface providers is Opera, yes the browser. They have done tonnes of work in this arena and I think even have a SDK for the same. I do believe Desktop or Client/Server apps will take a backseat as people venture into mobile and TV app development. Again we can minimize the idea generation and let's do something ... @Aki thanks for the heads up. Kiania D. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki I wont be able to use my old rusty regular antenna on the roof?
On 12/10/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:32 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
The interesting thing is that you'll still have a antenna which will be attached to the STB (Surprise Surprise) and not to burst the bubble further, the image kept freezing so it's still not stable.
Kiania
@David, I listed this freeze issue a few months ago and Bernard and others added too. Antenne installers who use Bit Error Rate meters will make more sense than those with mere signal strength meters because slight re-pointing on the antennes will be tricky.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
Skype : mark.mwangy _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
For those of you interested in EPG development you'd be interested to know one of the interface providers is Opera, yes the browser. They have done tonnes of work in this arena and I think even have a SDK for the same.
I do believe Desktop or Client/Server apps will take a backseat as people venture into mobile and TV app development. Again we can minimize the idea generation and let's do something ...
@Aki thanks for the heads up.
Kiania D.
@David, I believe that there is very good potential for kenyan developers to create a single platform and stations can use this platform to distribute EPG info ( at a fee ofcourse ) . And this is just the beginning of what can be done on DTV systems. I'm going to paste this thread into the 2010; Kenyan Developers Year thread and pls add as you many details as you can. -- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
Let me reframe the question what the skunker was basically asking is if He would be able to use his DSTV Decoder to recieve the free to air digital channels or he would have to buy another set top box On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
For those of you interested in EPG development you'd be interested to know one of the interface providers is Opera, yes the browser. They have done tonnes of work in this arena and I think even have a SDK for the same.
I do believe Desktop or Client/Server apps will take a backseat as people venture into mobile and TV app development. Again we can minimize the idea generation and let's do something ...
@Aki thanks for the heads up.
Kiania D.
@David, I believe that there is very good potential for kenyan developers to create a single platform and stations can use this platform to distribute EPG info ( at a fee ofcourse ) . And this is just the beginning of what can be done on DTV systems.
I'm going to paste this thread into the 2010; Kenyan Developers Year thread and pls add as you many details as you can.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
so where can I get a set top box?. . . its like launching fiber when no one has a computer. .. . On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, saich <saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me reframe the question what the skunker was basically asking is if He would be able to use his DSTV Decoder to recieve the free to air digital channels or he would have to buy another set top box
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
For those of you interested in EPG development you'd be interested to know one of the interface providers is Opera, yes the browser. They have done tonnes of work in this arena and I think even have a SDK for the same.
I do believe Desktop or Client/Server apps will take a backseat as people venture into mobile and TV app development. Again we can minimize the idea generation and let's do something ...
@Aki thanks for the heads up.
Kiania D.
@David, I believe that there is very good potential for kenyan developers to create a single platform and stations can use this platform to distribute EPG info ( at a fee ofcourse ) . And this is just the beginning of what can be done on DTV systems.
I'm going to paste this thread into the 2010; Kenyan Developers Year thread and pls add as you many details as you can.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f...
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.wordpress.com Skype : mark.mwangy
DSTV is based on the DVB-S standard, which is very different from DVB-T, which is what Kenya is using for DTT (Digital Terrestrial television). so the answer is no - you can't use your DVB-S receiver to get DVB-T transmission. B On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, saich <saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me reframe the question what the skunker was basically asking is if He would be able to use his DSTV Decoder to recieve the free to air digital channels or he would have to buy another set top box
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
For those of you interested in EPG development you'd be interested to know one of the interface providers is Opera, yes the browser. They have done tonnes of work in this arena and I think even have a SDK for the same.
I do believe Desktop or Client/Server apps will take a backseat as people venture into mobile and TV app development. Again we can minimize the idea generation and let's do something ...
@Aki thanks for the heads up.
Kiania D.
@David, I believe that there is very good potential for kenyan developers to create a single platform and stations can use this platform to distribute EPG info ( at a fee ofcourse ) . And this is just the beginning of what can be done on DTV systems.
I'm going to paste this thread into the 2010; Kenyan Developers Year thread and pls add as you many details as you can.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f...
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
I have been looking for a Set Top Box to install DTT (Digital Terrestrial Television) since the launch to no avail. The last STB I saw was with Mzee Ojwang (during the launch skit) they are quite elusive. My research has however lead to an interesting discovery .. KBC has been running tests using Jacobsons STB Models http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/103403028/T5_CX_A_Jacobsons_SD_Mpeg4.htm... which take 4-8 weeks to import. Here is my thought: - - Does anyone know where I can get an STB immediately? During the launch the President asked the Finance Minister to review duties and taxes (16% VAT and 25% Duty) on STBs, this means that we could get these for KES 5,000 or less. if NOT - Can we get critical mass on this list and import these units for our homes and offices. There are some of us who are interested in Electronic Product Guide (EPG) development, and it's imperative to have these devices in as many developers as possible. Aki is champion and am supporting. According to the Daniel Obath (Chairman DTT Task Force) you to not need a new aerial for the STBs if you have one of those Ellis type antennas. However those of us who use hangers ;-) as they say Kimeumana. Kiania D. On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
DSTV is based on the DVB-S standard, which is very different from DVB-T, which is what Kenya is using for DTT (Digital Terrestrial television).
so the answer is no - you can't use your DVB-S receiver to get DVB-T transmission.
B
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, saich <saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me reframe the question what the skunker was basically asking is if He would be able to use his DSTV Decoder to recieve the free to air digital channels or he would have to buy another set top box
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
For those of you interested in EPG development you'd be interested to know one of the interface providers is Opera, yes the browser. They have done tonnes of work in this arena and I think even have a SDK for the same.
I do believe Desktop or Client/Server apps will take a backseat as people venture into mobile and TV app development. Again we can minimize the idea generation and let's do something ...
@Aki thanks for the heads up.
Kiania D.
@David, I believe that there is very good potential for kenyan developers to create a single platform and stations can use this platform to distribute EPG info ( at a fee ofcourse ) . And this is just the beginning of what can be done on DTV systems.
I'm going to paste this thread into the 2010; Kenyan Developers Year thread and pls add as you many details as you can.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon
His name is Daniel Obam. I called on them to provide all the necessary information that we are all asking for http://www.ictcradle.com/kenyacurrent/?p=735 On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 1:44 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
I have been looking for a Set Top Box to install DTT (Digital Terrestrial Television) since the launch to no avail. The last STB I saw was with Mzee Ojwang (during the launch skit) they are quite elusive. My research has however lead to an interesting discovery .. KBC has been running tests using Jacobsons STB Models http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/103403028/T5_CX_A_Jacobsons_SD_Mpeg4.htm... which take 4-8 weeks to import. Here is my thought: -
- Does anyone know where I can get an STB immediately? During the launch the President asked the Finance Minister to review duties and taxes (16% VAT and 25% Duty) on STBs, this means that we could get these for KES 5,000 or less.
if NOT
- Can we get critical mass on this list and import these units for our homes and offices. There are some of us who are interested in Electronic Product Guide (EPG) development, and it's imperative to have these devices in as many developers as possible. Aki is champion and am supporting.
According to the Daniel Obath (Chairman DTT Task Force) you to not need a new aerial for the STBs if you have one of those Ellis type antennas. However those of us who use hangers ;-) as they say Kimeumana.
Kiania D.
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
DSTV is based on the DVB-S standard, which is very different from DVB-T, which is what Kenya is using for DTT (Digital Terrestrial television).
so the answer is no - you can't use your DVB-S receiver to get DVB-T transmission.
B
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, saich <saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me reframe the question what the skunker was basically asking is if He would be able to use his DSTV Decoder to recieve the free to air digital channels or he would have to buy another set top box
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
For those of you interested in EPG development you'd be interested to know one of the interface providers is Opera, yes the browser. They have done tonnes of work in this arena and I think even have a SDK for the same.
I do believe Desktop or Client/Server apps will take a backseat as people venture into mobile and TV app development. Again we can minimize the idea generation and let's do something ...
@Aki thanks for the heads up.
Kiania D.
@David, I believe that there is very good potential for kenyan developers to create a single platform and stations can use this platform to distribute EPG info ( at a fee ofcourse ) . And this is just the beginning of what can be done on DTV systems.
I'm going to paste this thread into the 2010; Kenyan Developers Year thread and pls add as you many details as you can.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
--
[Asentric Consulting Ltd]
If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth ....
-Richest Man in Babylon _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
@David, excellent tip on the box. I checked , two things are now known. One : Output composite on scart while processor is ST200 series. Interestingly, the system seems an embedded device, and I think there is a dev on this platform. http://www.stlinux.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/32. C, C++, .linux people should check the link out. If anyone has access to the DTB suggested by David, pls provide boot time screen shots, firmware version or even better chipset set if you can open the box. If the box is based on the above chip and embedded based, whooaa.. Flagging the chips for certain functions, eg display stream data could be done from source. Oh dear...candy for the kids in us?!!! @Alex, great info in that links you provided. Just hope that someone from that committee would have been on this list. This list is being starved of all the IT initiatves out there. It would be much easier to thrash out the EPG and content generation data streams goals that they have planned as Im sure they are in the E-age. What I understand now is that the stations will want to be linked to Signet on fiber ( most likely ) . Which means they do not have to go digital but pool on a mux. Thats good, application layer does not need to know about physical layer. Makes its much easier for developers to not know about the encoders, decoders etc. General comment. We need to break that box, take reading off the processors, tuner. Now we are moving into more things, besides EPG : - Installers will not need a BERt meter to resolve any tech issues. We can take readings off the tuner, or stream stage and generate a signal strength and error rate check meter display into the stb. The installers can go to a set channel and it can display the quality stats. maybe the STB already has this built-in function. If yes, then is signet going to allocate a test channel that can inject a stream used for aligning or installations? Esshh, DTV project is starting to look like a domino effect. Everywhere along the chain, there is something to be done. Will Kenyan Developers finally wake up to the call? Will people be able to take this thing head and realize it's no magic? David, Alex why get our minds buzzing on a sunday, cpu ni overloaded after 16 hours days..... even machines need a re-boot/restart of services once in a while... :-)))) Chat as soon as possible..
Am looking at this keenly, I need somebody to advice me accordingly. I want to maybe get say about 5,000 pieces for starters. Kiania, if hopefully the serekali can "behave" I can bring them in maybe in mid- march or early, that depends on how logistics come through. As of Aki, I hope you havent given up on the project. The EPG would have been a great milestone for Kenyan developers and the techie community customising their own transmission. James Muendo Leerick Office & Tech Supplies P.O Box 28016 - 00200 Nairobi,Kenya. Phone: + 254 725 567 508 gtalk: timrick Skype: tim.rick -----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd Sent: 13 December 2009 01:44 To: Skunkworks Forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Digital Tv I have been looking for a Set Top Box to install DTT (Digital Terrestrial Television) since the launch to no avail. The last STB I saw was with Mzee Ojwang (during the launch skit) they are quite elusive. My research has however lead to an interesting discovery .. KBC has been running tests using Jacobsons STB Models http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/103403028/T5_CX_A_Jacobsons_SD_Mpeg4.htm l which take 4-8 weeks to import. Here is my thought: - - Does anyone know where I can get an STB immediately? During the launch the President asked the Finance Minister to review duties and taxes (16% VAT and 25% Duty) on STBs, this means that we could get these for KES 5,000 or less. if NOT - Can we get critical mass on this list and import these units for our homes and offices. There are some of us who are interested in Electronic Product Guide (EPG) development, and it's imperative to have these devices in as many developers as possible. Aki is champion and am supporting. According to the Daniel Obath (Chairman DTT Task Force) you to not need a new aerial for the STBs if you have one of those Ellis type antennas. However those of us who use hangers ;-) as they say Kimeumana. Kiania D. On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
DSTV is based on the DVB-S standard, which is very different from DVB-T, which is what Kenya is using for DTT (Digital Terrestrial television).
so the answer is no - you can't use your DVB-S receiver to get DVB-T transmission.
B
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, saich <saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me reframe the question what the skunker was basically asking is if He would be able to use his DSTV Decoder to recieve the free to air digital channels or he would have to buy another set top box
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
For those of you interested in EPG development you'd be interested to know one of the interface providers is Opera, yes the browser. They have done tonnes of work in this arena and I think even have a SDK for the same.
I do believe Desktop or Client/Server apps will take a backseat as people venture into mobile and TV app development. Again we can minimize the idea generation and let's do something ...
@Aki thanks for the heads up.
Kiania D.
@David, I believe that there is very good potential for kenyan developers to create a single platform and stations can use this platform to distribute EPG info ( at a fee ofcourse ) . And this is just the beginning of what can be done on DTV systems.
I'm going to paste this thread into the 2010; Kenyan Developers Year thread and pls add as you many details as you can.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
Both Aki and I have not given up on EPG development, we are in information gathering mode and will try our level best to see how to proceed with it. However I think we'll have to hive off a side discussion so as not to involve the entire skunk community on this one, and focus on a core group based on interest. Those interested could register interest with Aki and we can then put some plan in place on the way forward. Hope this is acceptable. Kiania D. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Am looking at this keenly, I need somebody to advice me accordingly. I want to maybe get say about 5,000 pieces for starters. Kiania, if hopefully the serekali can "behave" I can bring them in maybe in mid- march or early, that depends on how logistics come through.
As of Aki, I hope you haven’t given up on the project. The EPG would have been a great milestone for Kenyan developers and the techie community customising their own transmission.
James Muendo Leerick Office & Tech Supplies P.O Box 28016 - 00200 Nairobi,Kenya.
Phone: + 254 725 567 508 gtalk: timrick Skype: tim.rick
-----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd Sent: 13 December 2009 01:44 To: Skunkworks Forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Digital Tv
I have been looking for a Set Top Box to install DTT (Digital Terrestrial Television) since the launch to no avail. The last STB I saw was with Mzee Ojwang (during the launch skit) they are quite elusive. My research has however lead to an interesting discovery .. KBC has been running tests using Jacobsons STB Models http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/103403028/T5_CX_A_Jacobsons_SD_Mpeg4.htm l which take 4-8 weeks to import. Here is my thought: -
- Does anyone know where I can get an STB immediately? During the launch the President asked the Finance Minister to review duties and taxes (16% VAT and 25% Duty) on STBs, this means that we could get these for KES 5,000 or less.
if NOT
- Can we get critical mass on this list and import these units for our homes and offices. There are some of us who are interested in Electronic Product Guide (EPG) development, and it's imperative to have these devices in as many developers as possible. Aki is champion and am supporting.
According to the Daniel Obath (Chairman DTT Task Force) you to not need a new aerial for the STBs if you have one of those Ellis type antennas. However those of us who use hangers ;-) as they say Kimeumana.
Kiania D.
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
DSTV is based on the DVB-S standard, which is very different from DVB-T, which is what Kenya is using for DTT (Digital Terrestrial television).
so the answer is no - you can't use your DVB-S receiver to get DVB-T transmission.
B
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, saich <saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me reframe the question what the skunker was basically asking is if He would be able to use his DSTV Decoder to recieve the free to air digital channels or he would have to buy another set top box
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
For those of you interested in EPG development you'd be interested to know one of the interface providers is Opera, yes the browser. They have done tonnes of work in this arena and I think even have a SDK for the same.
I do believe Desktop or Client/Server apps will take a backseat as people venture into mobile and TV app development. Again we can minimize the idea generation and let's do something ...
@Aki thanks for the heads up.
Kiania D.
@David, I believe that there is very good potential for kenyan developers to create a single platform and stations can use this platform to distribute EPG info ( at a fee ofcourse ) . And this is just the beginning of what can be done on DTV systems.
I'm going to paste this thread into the 2010; Kenyan Developers Year thread and pls add as you many details as you can.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
--
[Asentric Consulting Ltd]
If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth ....
-Richest Man in Babylon _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon
Totally acceptable. James Muendo Leerick Office & Tech Supplies P.O Box 28016 - 00200 Nairobi,Kenya. Phone: + 254 725 567 508 gtalk: timrick Skype: tim.rick -----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd Sent: 14 December 2009 12:21 To: Skunkworks Forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Digital Tv Both Aki and I have not given up on EPG development, we are in information gathering mode and will try our level best to see how to proceed with it. However I think we'll have to hive off a side discussion so as not to involve the entire skunk community on this one, and focus on a core group based on interest. Those interested could register interest with Aki and we can then put some plan in place on the way forward. Hope this is acceptable. Kiania D. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Am looking at this keenly, I need somebody to advice me accordingly. I want to maybe get say about 5,000 pieces for starters. Kiania, if hopefully the serekali can "behave" I can bring them in maybe in mid- march or early, that depends on how logistics come through.
As of Aki, I hope you havent given up on the project. The EPG would have been a great milestone for Kenyan developers and the techie community customising their own transmission.
James Muendo Leerick Office & Tech Supplies P.O Box 28016 - 00200 Nairobi,Kenya.
Phone: + 254 725 567 508 gtalk: timrick Skype: tim.rick
-----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd Sent: 13 December 2009 01:44 To: Skunkworks Forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Digital Tv
I have been looking for a Set Top Box to install DTT (Digital Terrestrial Television) since the launch to no avail. The last STB I saw was with Mzee Ojwang (during the launch skit) they are quite elusive. My research has however lead to an interesting discovery .. KBC has been running tests using Jacobsons STB Models
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/103403028/T5_CX_A_Jacobsons_SD_Mpeg4.htm
l which take 4-8 weeks to import. Here is my thought: -
- Does anyone know where I can get an STB immediately? During the launch the President asked the Finance Minister to review duties and taxes (16% VAT and 25% Duty) on STBs, this means that we could get these for KES 5,000 or less.
if NOT
- Can we get critical mass on this list and import these units for our homes and offices. There are some of us who are interested in Electronic Product Guide (EPG) development, and it's imperative to have these devices in as many developers as possible. Aki is champion and am supporting.
According to the Daniel Obath (Chairman DTT Task Force) you to not need a new aerial for the STBs if you have one of those Ellis type antennas. However those of us who use hangers ;-) as they say Kimeumana.
Kiania D.
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
DSTV is based on the DVB-S standard, which is very different from DVB-T, which is what Kenya is using for DTT (Digital Terrestrial television).
so the answer is no - you can't use your DVB-S receiver to get DVB-T transmission.
B
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, saich <saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me reframe the question what the skunker was basically asking is if He would be able to use his DSTV Decoder to recieve the free to air digital channels or he would have to buy another set top box
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting
Ltd
<kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
For those of you interested in EPG development you'd be interested to know one of the interface providers is Opera, yes the browser. They have done tonnes of work in this arena and I think even have a SDK
for
the same.
I do believe Desktop or Client/Server apps will take a backseat as people venture into mobile and TV app development. Again we can minimize the idea generation and let's do something ...
@Aki thanks for the heads up.
Kiania D.
@David, I believe that there is very good potential for kenyan developers to create a single platform and stations can use this platform to distribute EPG info ( at a fee ofcourse ) . And this is just the beginning of what can be done on DTV systems.
I'm going to paste this thread into the 2010; Kenyan Developers Year thread and pls add as you many details as you can.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f
bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f
bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f
bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
--
[Asentric Consulting Ltd]
If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth ....
-Richest Man in Babylon _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f
bjAwOUE&hl=en ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
James b4 u order ua shipment make sure the waiver on duties on the gadgets has been effected lest you end up with expensive stuff bwhich you have to sell at a loss... On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:30 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Totally acceptable.
James Muendo Leerick Office & Tech Supplies P.O Box 28016 - 00200 Nairobi,Kenya.
Phone: + 254 725 567 508 gtalk: timrick Skype: tim.rick
-----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd Sent: 14 December 2009 12:21 To: Skunkworks Forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Digital Tv
Both Aki and I have not given up on EPG development, we are in information gathering mode and will try our level best to see how to proceed with it. However I think we'll have to hive off a side discussion so as not to involve the entire skunk community on this one, and focus on a core group based on interest.
Those interested could register interest with Aki and we can then put some plan in place on the way forward. Hope this is acceptable.
Kiania D.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Am looking at this keenly, I need somebody to advice me accordingly. I want to maybe get say about 5,000 pieces for starters. Kiania, if hopefully the serekali can "behave" I can bring them in maybe in mid- march or early, that depends on how logistics come through.
As of Aki, I hope you haven’t given up on the project. The EPG would have been a great milestone for Kenyan developers and the techie community customising their own transmission.
James Muendo Leerick Office & Tech Supplies P.O Box 28016 - 00200 Nairobi,Kenya.
Phone: + 254 725 567 508 gtalk: timrick Skype: tim.rick
-----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd Sent: 13 December 2009 01:44 To: Skunkworks Forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Digital Tv
I have been looking for a Set Top Box to install DTT (Digital Terrestrial Television) since the launch to no avail. The last STB I saw was with Mzee Ojwang (during the launch skit) they are quite elusive. My research has however lead to an interesting discovery .. KBC has been running tests using Jacobsons STB Models
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/103403028/T5_CX_A_Jacobsons_SD_Mpeg4.htm
l which take 4-8 weeks to import. Here is my thought: -
- Does anyone know where I can get an STB immediately? During the launch the President asked the Finance Minister to review duties and taxes (16% VAT and 25% Duty) on STBs, this means that we could get these for KES 5,000 or less.
if NOT
- Can we get critical mass on this list and import these units for our homes and offices. There are some of us who are interested in Electronic Product Guide (EPG) development, and it's imperative to have these devices in as many developers as possible. Aki is champion and am supporting.
According to the Daniel Obath (Chairman DTT Task Force) you to not need a new aerial for the STBs if you have one of those Ellis type antennas. However those of us who use hangers ;-) as they say Kimeumana.
Kiania D.
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
DSTV is based on the DVB-S standard, which is very different from DVB-T, which is what Kenya is using for DTT (Digital Terrestrial television).
so the answer is no - you can't use your DVB-S receiver to get DVB-T transmission.
B
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, saich <saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me reframe the question what the skunker was basically asking is if He would be able to use his DSTV Decoder to recieve the free to air digital channels or he would have to buy another set top box
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting
Ltd
<kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
For those of you interested in EPG development you'd be interested to know one of the interface providers is Opera, yes the browser. They have done tonnes of work in this arena and I think even have a SDK
for
the same.
I do believe Desktop or Client/Server apps will take a backseat as people venture into mobile and TV app development. Again we can minimize the idea generation and let's do something ...
@Aki thanks for the heads up.
Kiania D.
@David, I believe that there is very good potential for kenyan developers to create a single platform and stations can use this platform to distribute EPG info ( at a fee ofcourse ) . And this is just the beginning of what can be done on DTV systems.
I'm going to paste this thread into the 2010; Kenyan Developers Year thread and pls add as you many details as you can.
-- ( the rise of Yoda! Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi... )
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f
bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f
bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f
bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
--
[Asentric Consulting Ltd]
If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth ....
-Richest Man in Babylon _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f
bjAwOUE&hl=en ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
--
[Asentric Consulting Ltd]
If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth ....
-Richest Man in Babylon _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE&hl=en ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Both Aki and I have not given up on EPG development, we are in information gathering mode and will try our level best to see how to proceed with it. However I think we'll have to hive off a side discussion so as not to involve the entire skunk community on this one, and focus on a core group based on interest.
Those interested could register interest with Aki and we can then put some plan in place on the way forward. Hope this is acceptable.
Kiania D.
Some people are using Google Wave for this kind of thing. http://vermorel.com/journal/2009/12/11/right-level-of-interruption-and-produ...
@David, suggest that we keep the EPG/Receiver thread open on the list until we have all the info. We can take it further from there. At the moment we need to establish and I'm looking for the mail address of the person who can answer these: - EPG standard - EPG scope - EPG format and universal platforms - EPG rollout time - EPG uptake by Stations. Rgds.
Maybe get a hold of somebody working in the media..... Alex, any pointers on this? James Muendo Leerick Office & Tech Supplies P.O Box 28016 - 00200 Nairobi,Kenya. Phone: + 254 725 567 508 gtalk: timrick Skype: tim.rick From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of aki Sent: 14 December 2009 15:53 To: Skunkworks Forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Digital Tv @David, suggest that we keep the EPG/Receiver thread open on the list until we have all the info. We can take it further from there. At the moment we need to establish and I'm looking for the mail address of the person who can answer these: - EPG standard - EPG scope - EPG format and universal platforms - EPG rollout time - EPG uptake by Stations. Rgds.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:49 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe get a hold of somebody working in the media.....
Alex, any pointers on this?
I asked the ministry to give us somebody to give us all needed info "Additionally, I am also directing the Ministry of Information and Communications to educate Kenyans on the Digital Television Broadcasting process to make it more understandable by Kenyans. It is important that Kenyans are made aware of the benefits of digital broadcasting. Some of the benefits include superior image and sound clarity, interactive communication, and data broadcasting." <http://www.statehousekenya.go.ke/speeches/kibaki/dec09/2009091201.htm> rgds
Did a random check along Luthuli..most shops had no clue what I was talking about despite the fact that the launch was being relayed live on TV.This means that there is digital TV but no STBs in the market Kevin On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
2009/12/9 Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
So where are all those settop boxes we try this new shizel . . Ama
this was another Teams?
On Luthuli Avenue, I guess!!!
On 12/3/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
steve, isn't that standard procedure of doing business in Kenya.
-- with Regards:
Get your free technology e-magazine in pdf format: Tekniaonline: http://bit.ly/tekniaonline-2
26 alphabetical pick up lines for dummies, only at: http://gramware.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
Skype : mark.mwangy _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
participants (16)
-
aki -
Brian Lusiola -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd -
Dennis Kioko -
Gakuru Alex -
James Muendo -
Kevin Ouma -
Lawrence Kago -
Mark Mwangi -
Murigi Muraya -
ndungu stephen -
Odhiambo Washington -
Philip Musyoki -
saich -
Solomon Mburu Kamau