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I haven't, but I know Safaricom does. I was almost deploying, but the cost was a bit on the higher side, and the aspect of owning the equipment wasn't interesting, though they can distribute the cost to several months. I don't know if there is any other CSP doing (assumming CSP == Communications Service Provider). On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:35 PM, <njungelloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone ever deployed/administered the above mentioned as a connectivity solution specifically for remote areas as an option other than VSAT. If so, via which CSP and what was the experience? I.e Link Throughput, downtime occurences, uptime, stability etc.
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too expensive. cck licences, vendor nonsense, support issues etc, however if you get it to work the throughputs are definately better, waay better than vsat. I do think maybe have a look at ubiquiti, they have some products on the unlicenced spectrum you might be interested in. if money is not an issue, most isp's might be able to go through the process to apply for spectrum for you. or just work with someone like safaricom,airtel you that already has established relationships with cck coz i think that will be the most annoying part for you. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
I haven't, but I know Safaricom does. I was almost deploying, but the cost was a bit on the higher side, and the aspect of owning the equipment wasn't interesting, though they can distribute the cost to several months. I don't know if there is any other CSP doing (assumming CSP == Communications Service Provider).
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:35 PM, <njungelloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone ever deployed/administered the above mentioned as a connectivity solution specifically for remote areas as an option other than VSAT. If so, via which CSP and what was the experience? I.e Link Throughput, downtime occurences, uptime, stability etc.
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This question is very general, probably i should ask what kind of traffic are you looking to carry? do you intend a narrowband solution like the one used to link up campuses (e.g at UON), or broadband to backhaul multimedia traffic over some distance. There is a monstrous difference between them.... On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:41 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
too expensive. cck licences, vendor nonsense, support issues etc, however if you get it to work the throughputs are definately better, waay better than vsat. I do think maybe have a look at ubiquiti, they have some products on the unlicenced spectrum you might be interested in. if money is not an issue, most isp's might be able to go through the process to apply for spectrum for you. or just work with someone like safaricom,airtel you that already has established relationships with cck coz i think that will be the most annoying part for you.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
I haven't, but I know Safaricom does. I was almost deploying, but the cost was a bit on the higher side, and the aspect of owning the equipment wasn't interesting, though they can distribute the cost to several months. I don't know if there is any other CSP doing (assumming CSP == Communications Service Provider).
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:35 PM, <njungelloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone ever deployed/administered the above mentioned as a connectivity solution specifically for remote areas as an option other than VSAT. If so, via which CSP and what was the experience? I.e Link Throughput, downtime occurences, uptime, stability etc.
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First and foremost, apologies for not getting back to ya'll sooner, been travelling. @Wash Yes, i am refering to Communication Service Providers. I too have heard something to the tune of "Safaricom Microwave". But unlike other connectivity solutions,unfortunately not aware of any(one/Org.) currently deploying it hence the inquiry. But what kind of damage (KES) are we looking at? I assume they probably sent you a quote? @John Thanks for the Info, much appreciated. But as you state, its less of a headache piggy backing on established relationships ergo Safaricom/CCK. @Kinuthia To elaborate; I have a VPN running over VSAT on one end and Wimax on the other. Both with 512Kbps bandwidth. (See: VPN over VSAT thread on the list) The IPSec tunnel in place is to facilitate "Remote Desktop Access" via Win2K8 Server CALs (3 to 5 users at any one time) to accessing an application running at the VSAT end of the tunnel. In terms of traffic, its minimal since i have the same running effortlessly on two Wimax Links (512Kbps Dedicated), the one in question above and another link at a remote office of the company without the need for traffic shaping whatsoever. However, even with traffic shaping and prioritization for the VSAT/Wimax tunnel. Sluggish response on the remote access terminal. Hence considering the need for another solution other than a satellite link which will undoubtedly knock off most of the latency. I hope that clarifies it, but if not, do ask. On 7/31/12, Kinuthia Ngugi <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com> wrote:
This question is very general, probably i should ask what kind of traffic are you looking to carry? do you intend a narrowband solution like the one used to link up campuses (e.g at UON), or broadband to backhaul multimedia traffic over some distance. There is a monstrous difference between them....
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:41 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
too expensive. cck licences, vendor nonsense, support issues etc, however if you get it to work the throughputs are definately better, waay better than vsat. I do think maybe have a look at ubiquiti, they have some products on the unlicenced spectrum you might be interested in. if money is not an issue, most isp's might be able to go through the process to apply for spectrum for you. or just work with someone like safaricom,airtel you that already has established relationships with cck coz i think that will be the most annoying part for you.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
I haven't, but I know Safaricom does. I was almost deploying, but the cost was a bit on the higher side, and the aspect of owning the equipment wasn't interesting, though they can distribute the cost to several months. I don't know if there is any other CSP doing (assumming CSP == Communications Service Provider).
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:35 PM, <njungelloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone ever deployed/administered the above mentioned as a connectivity solution specifically for remote areas as an option other than VSAT. If so, via which CSP and what was the experience? I.e Link Throughput, downtime occurences, uptime, stability etc.
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Well, in that case then you don't want the traditional TDM microwaves used by telcos (kina safcom, airtel etc). Reasons being; 1. The smallest bandwidth will probably be too much for your needs, being at least 2 E1s for the smallest radio, thats about 4Mbps. Doing fractional E1 will not make sense since its still the same unit. 2. As mentioned here earlier, you will have to deal with CCK licenses, spectrum fees, infrastructure (masts and towers if it's remote areas) and probably high installation fees. So I wouldn't suggest this solution for you now.... On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Lloyd Njunge <njungelloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
First and foremost, apologies for not getting back to ya'll sooner, been travelling.
@Wash Yes, i am refering to Communication Service Providers. I too have heard something to the tune of "Safaricom Microwave". But unlike other connectivity solutions,unfortunately not aware of any(one/Org.) currently deploying it hence the inquiry.
But what kind of damage (KES) are we looking at? I assume they probably sent you a quote?
@John Thanks for the Info, much appreciated. But as you state, its less of a headache piggy backing on established relationships ergo Safaricom/CCK.
@Kinuthia To elaborate; I have a VPN running over VSAT on one end and Wimax on the other. Both with 512Kbps bandwidth. (See: VPN over VSAT thread on the list)
The IPSec tunnel in place is to facilitate "Remote Desktop Access" via Win2K8 Server CALs (3 to 5 users at any one time) to accessing an application running at the VSAT end of the tunnel.
In terms of traffic, its minimal since i have the same running effortlessly on two Wimax Links (512Kbps Dedicated), the one in question above and another link at a remote office of the company without the need for traffic shaping whatsoever.
However, even with traffic shaping and prioritization for the VSAT/Wimax tunnel. Sluggish response on the remote access terminal. Hence considering the need for another solution other than a satellite link which will undoubtedly knock off most of the latency.
I hope that clarifies it, but if not, do ask.
On 7/31/12, Kinuthia Ngugi <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com> wrote:
This question is very general, probably i should ask what kind of traffic are you looking to carry? do you intend a narrowband solution like the one used to link up campuses (e.g at UON), or broadband to backhaul multimedia traffic over some distance. There is a monstrous difference between them....
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:41 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
too expensive. cck licences, vendor nonsense, support issues etc, however if you get it to work the throughputs are definately better, waay better than vsat. I do think maybe have a look at ubiquiti, they have some products on the unlicenced spectrum you might be interested in. if money is not an issue, most isp's might be able to go through the process to apply for spectrum for you. or just work with someone like safaricom,airtel you that already has established relationships with cck coz i think that will be the most annoying part for you.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
I haven't, but I know Safaricom does. I was almost deploying, but the cost was a bit on the higher side, and the aspect of owning the equipment wasn't interesting, though they can distribute the cost to several months. I don't know if there is any other CSP doing (assumming CSP == Communications Service Provider).
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:35 PM, <njungelloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone ever deployed/administered the above mentioned as a connectivity solution specifically for remote areas as an option other than VSAT. If so, via which CSP and what was the experience? I.e Link Throughput, downtime occurences, uptime, stability etc.
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Lloyd Njunge <njungelloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
First and foremost, apologies for not getting back to ya'll sooner, been travelling.
@Wash Yes, i am refering to Communication Service Providers. I too have heard something to the tune of "Safaricom Microwave". But unlike other connectivity solutions,unfortunately not aware of any(one/Org.) currently deploying it hence the inquiry.
But what kind of damage (KES) are we looking at? I assume they probably sent you a quote?
The cost that was quoted to me was about 1.9m - which also included bandwidth costs for 1Mbps Local loop. It was to be spread over a predetermined period of your choice - 12, 24 or 36 months. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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