Claire... Shoddy. Some clients had to withdraw from the same business because there wasn't revenue coming to them...(the sms 1234 and get the location, price and details of property....). Though a noble idea but 100,000/=? per month, please. -- Many Thanks. Regards, Clement Ongera.

if something seems too good to be true it probably is ;) On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Martin Muraguri <martinmur87@gmail.com> wrote:

I think 100,000 against an investment of 5000 is overrated.

What about advertising - How do you tell 16 Million People that you have a certain service X.

Do you need to register your business? Do you need a betting License? If the service you are selling is indeed valuable it may take some resources and effort to put together say a property listing.. You need to avail new properties... maybe even partner with a property management company.

Making money through this method is possible but there are lots of considerations to make before investing here.

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Claire... Shoddy. Some clients had to withdraw from the same business because there wasn't revenue coming to them...(the sms 1234 and get the location, price and details of property....). Though a noble idea but 100,000/=? per month, please.

-- Many Thanks.

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I have just traced back viva.co.ke to a certain Stephen Alala... http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/stephen-alala/3/a71/6a1 Stephen....if you are on this list....please do something about your website...the shoddy work makes your venture look shady! At least it is better if I get conned from a better looking site than get conned from a shoddy looking site;-) I can picture the conversation at the police station when I am reporting the case: Me: I have just been conned Policeman: How? Me: I paid Sh. 5K to viva.co.ke and I have not earned my Sh. 100K Policeman: Hiyo viva ni ya Coca Cola? Me: Hapana, it is a website Policeman: Web ni kama ile ya spider? Me: Hapana, web ni ya internet? Police: Ooooh, like that one of ours which was chopped up? Me: I think you mean hacked... Policeman: Sasa hii viva has been hacked? Me: No, they conned me... Policeman: How did you know about them. Me: I saw them on the internet...let me show you on my iPad Policeman: Madam, na hiyo simu yaho ni kubwa, hehehe, kwani ni ile booth ya kitambo Me: Hii ni iPad, this is the latest technology...let me open for you the viva.co.ke website Policeman: Sawa, endelea Me: There take a look, they have said "Easily earn over Kshs 100,000 per month...." Policeman: Wewe Madam, hata mimi sijui hii mambo ya chopped na hacked, lakini hii spider hatawewe ukiangalia, does it look like a genuine business, ehhh? Claire. On 1/7/11, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

Business valuation is more on *net* revenue... e.g. If you check Wikipedia, Apple (at 259 Billion Market Cap as of 3rd Quarter 2010) is worth more than Walmart ( at 200 odd billion). When you look at profitability, Apple is at 14 Billion Net, along with Walmart (roughly the same 14 billion) ... Walmart has annual gross revenues of 400 Billion USD, while Apple has annual revenues of 65 Billion USD... Apple is on a growth curve, not so with Walmart... Just an example...

-- With Regards,

Phares Kariuki

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@Imelda...lol Oh my, I have just checked what I posted and realised that I should reduce my caffeine intake...today I am feeling like an energizer bunny... On 1/7/11, imelda Mueni <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow @Claire your that idle

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I have just traced back viva.co.ke to a certain Stephen Alala...

http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/stephen-alala/3/a71/6a1

Stephen....if you are on this list....please do something about your website...the shoddy work makes your venture look shady!

At least it is better if I get conned from a better looking site than get conned from a shoddy looking site;-)

I can picture the conversation at the police station when I am reporting the case:

Me: I have just been conned

Policeman: How?

Me: I paid Sh. 5K to viva.co.ke and I have not earned my Sh. 100K

Policeman: Hiyo viva ni ya Coca Cola?

Me: Hapana, it is a website

Policeman: Web ni kama ile ya spider?

Me: Hapana, web ni ya internet?

Police: Ooooh, like that one of ours which was chopped up?

Me: I think you mean hacked...

Policeman: Sasa hii viva has been hacked?

Me: No, they conned me...

Policeman: How did you know about them.

Me: I saw them on the internet...let me show you on my iPad

Policeman: Madam, na hiyo simu yaho ni kubwa, hehehe, kwani ni ile booth ya kitambo

Me: Hii ni iPad, this is the latest technology...let me open for you the viva.co.ke website

Policeman: Sawa, endelea

Me: There take a look, they have said "Easily earn over Kshs 100,000 per month...."

Policeman: Wewe Madam, hata mimi sijui hii mambo ya chopped na hacked, lakini hii spider hatawewe ukiangalia, does it look like a genuine business, ehhh?

Claire.

On 1/7/11, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Business valuation is more on *net* revenue... e.g. If you check Wikipedia, Apple (at 259 Billion Market Cap as of 3rd Quarter 2010) is worth more than Walmart ( at 200 odd billion). When you look at profitability, Apple is at 14 Billion Net, along with Walmart (roughly the same 14 billion) ... Walmart has annual gross revenues of 400 Billion USD, while Apple has annual revenues of 65 Billion USD... Apple is on a growth curve, not so with Walmart... Just an example...

-- With Regards,

Phares Kariuki

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@Claire its ok i was kidding, :)...my fridays are usually a drag in the office i will try coffee n see if i will feel like an energized bunny :) On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com> wrote:

@Imelda...lol

Oh my, I have just checked what I posted and realised that I should reduce my caffeine intake...today I am feeling like an energizer bunny...

On 1/7/11, imelda Mueni <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Wow @Claire your that idle

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I have just traced back viva.co.ke to a certain Stephen Alala...

http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/stephen-alala/3/a71/6a1

Stephen....if you are on this list....please do something about your website...the shoddy work makes your venture look shady!

At least it is better if I get conned from a better looking site than get conned from a shoddy looking site;-)

I can picture the conversation at the police station when I am reporting the case:

Me: I have just been conned

Policeman: How?

Me: I paid Sh. 5K to viva.co.ke and I have not earned my Sh. 100K

Policeman: Hiyo viva ni ya Coca Cola?

Me: Hapana, it is a website

Policeman: Web ni kama ile ya spider?

Me: Hapana, web ni ya internet?

Police: Ooooh, like that one of ours which was chopped up?

Me: I think you mean hacked...

Policeman: Sasa hii viva has been hacked?

Me: No, they conned me...

Policeman: How did you know about them.

Me: I saw them on the internet...let me show you on my iPad

Policeman: Madam, na hiyo simu yaho ni kubwa, hehehe, kwani ni ile booth ya kitambo

Me: Hii ni iPad, this is the latest technology...let me open for you the viva.co.ke website

Policeman: Sawa, endelea

Me: There take a look, they have said "Easily earn over Kshs 100,000 per month...."

Policeman: Wewe Madam, hata mimi sijui hii mambo ya chopped na hacked, lakini hii spider hatawewe ukiangalia, does it look like a genuine business, ehhh?

Claire.

On 1/7/11, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Business valuation is more on *net* revenue... e.g. If you check Wikipedia, Apple (at 259 Billion Market Cap as of 3rd Quarter 2010) is worth more than Walmart ( at 200 odd billion). When you look at profitability, Apple is at 14 Billion Net, along with Walmart (roughly the same 14 billion) ... Walmart has annual gross revenues of 400 Billion USD, while Apple has annual revenues of 65 Billion USD... Apple is on a growth curve, not so with Walmart... Just an example...

-- With Regards,

Phares Kariuki

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Hello All, At last we have a website we can actually look at. Good work. On 1/9/11, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I have just traced back viva.co.ke to a certain Stephen Alala...

http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/stephen-alala/3/a71/6a1

Stephen....if you are on this list....please do something about your website...the shoddy work makes your venture look shady!

At least it is better if I get conned from a better looking site than get conned from a shoddy looking site;-)

I can picture the conversation at the police station when I am reporting the case:

Me: I have just been conned

Policeman: How?

Me: I paid Sh. 5K to viva.co.ke and I have not earned my Sh. 100K

Policeman: Hiyo viva ni ya Coca Cola?

Me: Hapana, it is a website

Policeman: Web ni kama ile ya spider?

Me: Hapana, web ni ya internet?

Police: Ooooh, like that one of ours which was chopped up?

Me: I think you mean hacked...

Policeman: Sasa hii viva has been hacked?

Me: No, they conned me...

Policeman: How did you know about them.

Me: I saw them on the internet...let me show you on my iPad

Policeman: Madam, na hiyo simu yaho ni kubwa, hehehe, kwani ni ile booth ya kitambo

Me: Hii ni iPad, this is the latest technology...let me open for you the viva.co.ke website

Policeman: Sawa, endelea

Me: There take a look, they have said "Easily earn over Kshs 100,000 per month...."

Policeman: Wewe Madam, hata mimi sijui hii mambo ya chopped na hacked, lakini hii spider hatawewe ukiangalia, does it look like a genuine business, ehhh?

This gal (or woman? There are no ladies and gentlemen in IT!!) has just made my day. At 2am and stressed and happy somewhere, this is just the right antidote for my situation.

-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

-- Many Thanks. Regards, Clement Ongera.