After an attempted burglary at our offices(saved by the alarm,the rest of the offices in the compound were burgled), we are looking for a remote data backup solution, either local or international. Any leads as i google?
Depends on how much you are willing to spend ;) Zuhair From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Young techie Sent: 14 March 2013 11:28 AM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: [Skunkworks] Online backup service After an attempted burglary at our offices(saved by the alarm,the rest of the offices in the compound were burgled), we are looking for a remote data backup solution, either local or international. Any leads as i google? This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should notdisseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, orcontain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for anyerrors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Kenya Data Networks, Tel: +254(20)5000000, www.kdn.co.ke
This will depend on : - Sensitivity of the data. - Size of data to be backed up - Budget For non-sensitive data that's not too bulky; say under 2GB, I'd go with free online solutions eg DropBox. Else, keep on googling for credible commercial solutions
Must he spend?? I think it depends on other factors than "how much he is willing to spend". Your thinking around this is quite pedestrian! 1. What type of data he needs to backup remotely 2. How often that data changes - hence how often to backup/sync 3. How often that data needs to be accessed and the size of the data - which determines how much bandwidth he'll need. 4. Volume of data - which will determine if he can go with the free services or opt for the pay options On 14 March 2013 11:31, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Depends on how much you are willing to spend ;)****
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Ok, so now let’s say you have the details of the sensitivity, volume, bandwidth etc. What comes next? You still need to know what the budget is. If they are willing to pay; lets say $20 a month, why would they go for dropbox when they can have their own server on the cloud? My point is, the world as it is today will offer solutions depending on your budget, the rest just comes in second. Zuhair From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington Sent: 14 March 2013 11:36 AM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Online backup service Must he spend?? I think it depends on other factors than "how much he is willing to spend". Your thinking around this is quite pedestrian! 1. What type of data he needs to backup remotely 2. How often that data changes - hence how often to backup/sync 3. How often that data needs to be accessed and the size of the data - which determines how much bandwidth he'll need. 4. Volume of data - which will determine if he can go with the free services or opt for the pay options On 14 March 2013 11:31, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote: Depends on how much you are willing to spend ;) Zuhair From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Young techie Sent: 14 March 2013 11:28 AM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: [Skunkworks] Online backup service After an attempted burglary at our offices(saved by the alarm,the rest of the offices in the compound were burgled), we are looking for a remote data backup solution, either local or international. Any leads as i google? This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Kenya Data Networks, Tel: +254(20)5000000, www.kdn.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should notdisseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, orcontain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for anyerrors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Kenya Data Networks, Tel: +254(20)5000000, www.kdn.co.ke
Thank you for your suggestions. Am hoping for something like http://www.backblaze.com/. We are willing to spend up to $50 a month On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:46 AM, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke>wrote:
Ok, so now let’s say you have the details of the sensitivity, volume, bandwidth etc. What comes next? You still need to know what the budget is. If they are willing to pay; lets say $20 a month, why would they go for dropbox when they can have their own server on the cloud?****
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My point is, the world as it is today will offer solutions depending on your budget, the rest just comes in second.****
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Must he spend??
I think it depends on other factors than "how much he is willing to spend". Your thinking around this is quite pedestrian!
1. What type of data he needs to backup remotely 2. How often that data changes - hence how often to backup/sync 3. How often that data needs to be accessed and the size of the data - which determines how much bandwidth he'll need. 4. Volume of data - which will determine if he can go with the free services or opt for the pay options
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On 14 March 2013 11:31, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:****
Depends on how much you are willing to spend ;)****
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*Ok, so now let’s say you have the details of the sensitivity, volume, bandwidth etc. What comes next? You still need to know what the budget is. If they are willing to pay; lets say $20 a month, why would they go for dropbox when they can have their own server on the cloud?*
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Not necessarily so Zuhair. I side with Wash on this. Even if I am willing to spend, I may not choose to go that route if there's some free alternative that squarely fit's my requirements. Case in point : - Once in a while I find myself with work related 'MS Project' (.mpp) documents that I need to view. One option is to purchase the MS Project module but I choose to use OpenProj/ProjectLibre.
That's just it. Your budget for viewing .mpp is preferably kshs 0.00. But that's still a budget! The guy who is willing to buy MS Project, and has the budget for it, will get a different experience. I still stick to the fact that a budget is required first. But that's just my opinion. Zuhair From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Tony Likhanga Sent: 14 March 2013 12:07 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Online backup service 2013/3/14 zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> Ok, so now let's say you have the details of the sensitivity, volume, bandwidth etc. What comes next? You still need to know what the budget is. If they are willing to pay; lets say $20 a month, why would they go for dropbox when they can have their own server on the cloud? My point is, the world as it is today will offer solutions depending on your budget, the rest just comes in second. Zuhair Not necessarily so Zuhair. I side with Wash on this. Even if I am willing to spend, I may not choose to go that route if there's some free alternative that squarely fit's my requirements. Case in point : - Once in a while I find myself with work related 'MS Project' (.mpp) documents that I need to view. One option is to purchase the MS Project module but I choose to use OpenProj/ProjectLibre. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should notdisseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, orcontain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for anyerrors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Kenya Data Networks, Tel: +254(20)5000000, www.kdn.co.ke
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*That’s just it… Your budget for viewing .mpp is preferably kshs 0.00… But that’s still a budget! The guy who is willing to buy MS Project, and has the budget for it, will get a different experience.*
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*I still stick to the fact that a budget is required first. But that’s just my opinion.*
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I disagree; My requirement was to get a solution that allows me to view .mpp files!! That was the Primary consideration! The cost then came on as an elimination factor. Question : What if the ONLY way ever for me to ever view .mpp files was through buying a crystal ball worth 200 Chinese Yen. Would it help if I stuck to my Kes 500/= budget?
Money is the focus; because, when dealing with generic requirements, such as online backups, it helps to understand where the person stands. I am not saying the other requirements don't matter, they are very significant, but I have dealt with too many who are happy until they learn the cost. Zuhair From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Tony Likhanga Sent: 14 March 2013 12:21 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Online backup service 2013/3/14 zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> That's just it. Your budget for viewing .mpp is preferably kshs 0.00. But that's still a budget! The guy who is willing to buy MS Project, and has the budget for it, will get a different experience. I still stick to the fact that a budget is required first. But that's just my opinion. Zuhair I disagree; My requirement was to get a solution that allows me to view .mpp files!! That was the Primary consideration! The cost then came on as an elimination factor. Question : What if the ONLY way ever for me to ever view .mpp files was through buying a crystal ball worth 200 Chinese Yen. Would it help if I stuck to my Kes 500/= budget? This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should notdisseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, orcontain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for anyerrors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Kenya Data Networks, Tel: +254(20)5000000, www.kdn.co.ke
So every time someone asks you for a solution, your first question would be "what is your budget"? :-) Sounds sensible, somehow. From now on, that would be the first question I'll be asking whenever I am approached. It makes sense to monetize everything. On 14 March 2013 12:41, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Money is the focus; because, when dealing with generic requirements, such as online backups, it helps to understand where the person stands. I am not saying the other requirements don’t matter, they are very significant, but I have dealt with too many who are happy until they learn the cost.****
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*That’s just it… Your budget for viewing .mpp is preferably kshs 0.00… But that’s still a budget! The guy who is willing to buy MS Project, and has the budget for it, will get a different experience.*****
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*I still stick to the fact that a budget is required first. But that’s just my opinion.*****
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I disagree;****
My requirement was to get a solution that allows me to view .mpp files!! That was the Primary consideration!****
The cost then came on as an elimination factor.****
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Question : What if the ONLY way ever for me to ever view .mpp files was through buying a crystal ball worth 200 Chinese Yen. Would it help if I stuck to my Kes 500/= budget?****
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Oh, and before I forget - please get a different (personal) address to use on the list, or be weeding out that KDN disclaimer. On 14 March 2013 12:41, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Money is the focus; because, when dealing with generic requirements, such as online backups, it helps to understand where the person stands. I am not saying the other requirements don’t matter, they are very significant, but I have dealt with too many who are happy until they learn the cost.****
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*2013/3/14 zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke>*****
*That’s just it… Your budget for viewing .mpp is preferably kshs 0.00… But that’s still a budget! The guy who is willing to buy MS Project, and has the budget for it, will get a different experience.*****
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*I still stick to the fact that a budget is required first. But that’s just my opinion.*****
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I disagree;****
My requirement was to get a solution that allows me to view .mpp files!! That was the Primary consideration!****
The cost then came on as an elimination factor.****
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Question : What if the ONLY way ever for me to ever view .mpp files was through buying a crystal ball worth 200 Chinese Yen. Would it help if I stuck to my Kes 500/= budget?****
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Seriously.... did this get personal???? On 14 March 2013 12:51, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, and before I forget - please get a different (personal) address to use on the list, or be weeding out that KDN disclaimer.
On 14 March 2013 12:41, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Money is the focus; because, when dealing with generic requirements, such as online backups, it helps to understand where the person stands. I am not saying the other requirements don’t matter, they are very significant, but I have dealt with too many who are happy until they learn the cost.****
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*2013/3/14 zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke>*****
*That’s just it… Your budget for viewing .mpp is preferably kshs 0.00… But that’s still a budget! The guy who is willing to buy MS Project, and has the budget for it, will get a different experience.*****
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*I still stick to the fact that a budget is required first. But that’s just my opinion.*****
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*Zuhair*****
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I disagree;****
My requirement was to get a solution that allows me to view .mpp files!! That was the Primary consideration!****
The cost then came on as an elimination factor.****
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Question : What if the ONLY way ever for me to ever view .mpp files was through buying a crystal ball worth 200 Chinese Yen. Would it help if I stuck to my Kes 500/= budget?****
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Too personal I must say...ION am looking for a draft for a systems Admin. Any help? Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:46:15 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Online backup service _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
I mean a draft Job Descprition for systems Admin. Sorry for that. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: kabiroz@yahoo.com Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:53:18 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: kabiroz@yahoo.com, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Online backup service Too personal I must say...ION am looking for a draft for a systems Admin. Any help? Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:46:15 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Online backup service _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
Always remember to have a Subject for any new mail for easy tracking ________________________________ From: "kabiroz@yahoo.com" <kabiroz@yahoo.com> To: kabiroz@yahoo.com; Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, 14 March 2013, 15:55 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Online backup service I mean a draft Job Descprition for systems Admin. Sorry for that. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: kabiroz@yahoo.com Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:53:18 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: kabiroz@yahoo.com, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Online backup service Too personal I must say...ION am looking for a draft for a systems Admin. Any help? Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:46:15 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Online backup service _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke/ _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke/ _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke/
Nothing personal. Using official e-mail address with company disclaimers on a mailing list is against netiquette, IIRC. That's nothing personal. On 14 March 2013 15:46, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Seriously.... did this get personal????
On 14 March 2013 12:51, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, and before I forget - please get a different (personal) address to use on the list, or be weeding out that KDN disclaimer.
On 14 March 2013 12:41, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Money is the focus; because, when dealing with generic requirements, such as online backups, it helps to understand where the person stands. I am not saying the other requirements don’t matter, they are very significant, but I have dealt with too many who are happy until they learn the cost.****
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*2013/3/14 zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke>*****
*That’s just it… Your budget for viewing .mpp is preferably kshs 0.00… But that’s still a budget! The guy who is willing to buy MS Project, and has the budget for it, will get a different experience.*****
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*I still stick to the fact that a budget is required first. But that’s just my opinion.*****
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I disagree;****
My requirement was to get a solution that allows me to view .mpp files!! That was the Primary consideration!****
The cost then came on as an elimination factor.****
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Question : What if the ONLY way ever for me to ever view .mpp files was through buying a crystal ball worth 200 Chinese Yen. Would it help if I stuck to my Kes 500/= budget?****
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Sorry to ask, but are you Indian by any chance (no prejudice intended)? I am just wondering why money is your first focus. I do not agree with you that the first thing to think about when looking for a solution should be money. You first qualify the available options based on your requirements/considerations then look at the most cost-effective. On 14 March 2013 11:46, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Ok, so now let’s say you have the details of the sensitivity, volume, bandwidth etc. What comes next? You still need to know what the budget is. If they are willing to pay; lets say $20 a month, why would they go for dropbox when they can have their own server on the cloud?****
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My point is, the world as it is today will offer solutions depending on your budget, the rest just comes in second.****
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Must he spend??
I think it depends on other factors than "how much he is willing to spend". Your thinking around this is quite pedestrian!
1. What type of data he needs to backup remotely 2. How often that data changes - hence how often to backup/sync 3. How often that data needs to be accessed and the size of the data - which determines how much bandwidth he'll need. 4. Volume of data - which will determine if he can go with the free services or opt for the pay options
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On 14 March 2013 11:31, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:****
Depends on how much you are willing to spend ;)****
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Zuhair****
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After an attempted burglary at our offices(saved by the alarm,the rest of the offices in the compound were burgled), we are looking for a remote data backup solution, either local or international. Any leads as i google? *** *
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This is apropos of my previous email about getting off of PST files and using gmail. The great benefit there is that your data is already on the cloud, backups are massively faster and easier (to the degree that you even need them). I always advocate the following: 1. Try to have master data as high up the chain as possible so that devices like laptops and phones can benefit from a wipe strategy rather than a restore strategy after being lost or stolen. The same goes with servers. Ideally servers would just be local caches of data stored in a data center and ideally in a redundant cloud architecture. This isn't always possible but you can get pretty close these days. 2. I personally like to back up to S3 via Arq ( http://www.haystacksoftware.com/arq/). I really like separating the software from the storage because it allows for specialization. S3 is the most successful publicly-accessible storage solution ever created and nobody comes close to catching up to it. Arq is a great piece of Mac-specific software which is well worth it. There are other solutions for Linux or Windows but I highly recommend using a solution that backs to S3. 3. Since you probably don't have tight control on all the machines and since getting everything on the cloud is difficult, you should check out something like Synology NAS ( http://www.synology.com/products/spec.php?product_name=DS112%2B&lang=enu#p_s...). Their devices can back up to S3 so you have nearline storage of your assets automatically backed up to S3. -Adam https://twitter.com/varud https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:46 AM, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke>wrote:
Ok, so now let’s say you have the details of the sensitivity, volume, bandwidth etc. What comes next? You still need to know what the budget is. If they are willing to pay; lets say $20 a month, why would they go for dropbox when they can have their own server on the cloud?****
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My point is, the world as it is today will offer solutions depending on your budget, the rest just comes in second.****
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Zuhair ****
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Must he spend??
I think it depends on other factors than "how much he is willing to spend". Your thinking around this is quite pedestrian!
1. What type of data he needs to backup remotely 2. How often that data changes - hence how often to backup/sync 3. How often that data needs to be accessed and the size of the data - which determines how much bandwidth he'll need. 4. Volume of data - which will determine if he can go with the free services or opt for the pay options
****
On 14 March 2013 11:31, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:****
Depends on how much you are willing to spend ;)****
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After an attempted burglary at our offices(saved by the alarm,the rest of the offices in the compound were burgled), we are looking for a remote data backup solution, either local or international. Any leads as i google? *** *
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Corporate backup solutions to consider: www.carbonite.com www.idrive.com Those are my top two.. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
This is apropos of my previous email about getting off of PST files and using gmail. The great benefit there is that your data is already on the cloud, backups are massively faster and easier (to the degree that you even need them). I always advocate the following:
1. Try to have master data as high up the chain as possible so that devices like laptops and phones can benefit from a wipe strategy rather than a restore strategy after being lost or stolen. The same goes with servers. Ideally servers would just be local caches of data stored in a data center and ideally in a redundant cloud architecture. This isn't always possible but you can get pretty close these days. 2. I personally like to back up to S3 via Arq ( http://www.haystacksoftware.com/arq/). I really like separating the software from the storage because it allows for specialization. S3 is the most successful publicly-accessible storage solution ever created and nobody comes close to catching up to it. Arq is a great piece of Mac-specific software which is well worth it. There are other solutions for Linux or Windows but I highly recommend using a solution that backs to S3. 3. Since you probably don't have tight control on all the machines and since getting everything on the cloud is difficult, you should check out something like Synology NAS ( http://www.synology.com/products/spec.php?product_name=DS112%2B&lang=enu#p_s...). Their devices can back up to S3 so you have nearline storage of your assets automatically backed up to S3.
-Adam
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On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:46 AM, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke>wrote:
Ok, so now let’s say you have the details of the sensitivity, volume, bandwidth etc. What comes next? You still need to know what the budget is. If they are willing to pay; lets say $20 a month, why would they go for dropbox when they can have their own server on the cloud?****
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My point is, the world as it is today will offer solutions depending on your budget, the rest just comes in second.****
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Zuhair ****
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Must he spend??
I think it depends on other factors than "how much he is willing to spend". Your thinking around this is quite pedestrian!
1. What type of data he needs to backup remotely 2. How often that data changes - hence how often to backup/sync 3. How often that data needs to be accessed and the size of the data - which determines how much bandwidth he'll need. 4. Volume of data - which will determine if he can go with the free services or opt for the pay options
****
On 14 March 2013 11:31, zuhair jaffer <zuhair.jaffer@kdn.co.ke> wrote:*** *
Depends on how much you are willing to spend ;)****
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Zuhair****
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After an attempted burglary at our offices(saved by the alarm,the rest of the offices in the compound were burgled), we are looking for a remote data backup solution, either local or international. Any leads as i google? ** **
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Have you investigated whether the FREE ones can suffice for your needs? Dropbox, Skydrive, etc.... Perhaps you can even pay for them for more space.. On 14 March 2013 11:28, Young techie <rriobs@gmail.com> wrote:
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