Apparently it's not that much of a success, under 1,000 people have moved in the last week... M-Pesa? -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
its not only M-PESA personally, I stand to loose - 3G - coverage (Does Orange GSM cover Eastern/North Eastern ?)
The problem was solved by getting multiple sims this portability biz is too late. . On 4/7/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
its not only M-PESA personally, I stand to loose
- 3G - coverage (Does Orange GSM cover Eastern/North Eastern ?)
-- Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.posterous.com Skype : mark.mwangy
Maybe the government, in a quest to make this work, should ban all phones with dual Sim capability ( Airtel would love this ) ... :-) On 7 April 2011 15:31, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem was solved by getting multiple sims this portability biz is too late. .
On 4/7/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
its not only M-PESA personally, I stand to loose
- 3G - coverage (Does Orange GSM cover Eastern/North Eastern ?)
-- Regards,
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-- Watson Kambo
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 15:37, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe the government, in a quest to make this work, should ban all phones with dual Sim capability ( Airtel would love this ) ... :-)
Hahaaaa! Watson, that is one of the reasons! The other one is that we can easily carry two phones. Third reason is VAS. 4th is data speeds. 4th reason maybe "fear of the unknown" - or lack of education (on the part of the masses) about MNP. I completely see no reason to ditch Airtel or Safaricom. I have two phones and I am happy with the status quo. My plan is to get a nice Droid, with Dual SIM capabilities (Is there one out there?) and MNP can be there for the clueless:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
If you want a Dual-SIM Droid, look to the chinese - they already have some out. I have seen them on adverts - lightinthebox.com Regards, ====================== Andrew Wafula Wapakala Web: www.wertsoft.com MSN: a_wafula@hotmail.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/awafula Blog: http://thewert.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================== If you have made mistakes...there is always another chance for you... you may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down. - Mary Pickford "Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss People" On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 15:37, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe the government, in a quest to make this work, should ban all phones with dual Sim capability ( Airtel would love this ) ... :-)
Hahaaaa! Watson, that is one of the reasons!
The other one is that we can easily carry two phones.
Third reason is VAS.
4th is data speeds.
4th reason maybe "fear of the unknown" - or lack of education (on the part of the masses) about MNP.
I completely see no reason to ditch Airtel or Safaricom. I have two phones and I am happy with the status quo.
My plan is to get a nice Droid, with Dual SIM capabilities (Is there one out there?) and MNP can be there for the clueless:-)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 15:57, Andrew Wafula <awafula@gmail.com> wrote:
If you want a Dual-SIM Droid, look to the chinese - they already have some out. I have seen them on adverts - lightinthebox.com
I am scared of the SAR ratings of Chinese phones. Maybe Huawei will make one soon. I tend to trust them. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
And rumour has it, guys are porting TO safcom because of MPESA :-) On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 15:57, Andrew Wafula <awafula@gmail.com> wrote:
If you want a Dual-SIM Droid, look to the chinese - they already have some out. I have seen them on adverts - lightinthebox.com
I am scared of the SAR ratings of Chinese phones. Maybe Huawei will make one soon. I tend to trust them.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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hahahha..nice...safcom got value addtion..it's not just the pricing that matters....I flash back to my rural diggs and realise M-PESA is a like a candy kiosk .....they are all over so getting money ain't a problem if well..u've got a sender. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:52 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
And rumour has it, guys are porting TO safcom because of MPESA :-)
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 15:57, Andrew Wafula <awafula@gmail.com> wrote:
If you want a Dual-SIM Droid, look to the chinese - they already have some out. I have seen them on adverts - lightinthebox.com
I am scared of the SAR ratings of Chinese phones. Maybe Huawei will make one soon. I tend to trust them.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Safcom have lost Approx. 1200 so far but negligible On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:01 PM, John Adams <adams.opiyo@gmail.com> wrote:
hahahha..nice...safcom got value addtion..it's not just the pricing that matters....I flash back to my rural diggs and realise M-PESA is a like a candy kiosk .....they are all over so getting money ain't a problem if well..u've got a sender.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:52 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
And rumour has it, guys are porting TO safcom because of MPESA :-)
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 15:57, Andrew Wafula <awafula@gmail.com> wrote:
If you want a Dual-SIM Droid, look to the chinese - they already have some out. I have seen them on adverts - lightinthebox.com
I am scared of the SAR ratings of Chinese phones. Maybe Huawei will make one soon. I tend to trust them.
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I said it, its funny but queen bee is about to get fatter. This is the worst policy Airtel ever pursued and will work against them. Unless something terrible happens at Westlands (like a coup), then QB might end up even fatter. Talk of "aisifue mvua kamnyeshea". If I was Mr. Meza I would pray the world opens I sink in Zap! ------------ Don't wait for success; hunt it down like there's no tomorrow.
Question Peter, What if Airtel rolls out its long awaited 3G, would we see movement away from Queen Bee, maybe in later months? Orange will also be launching their 3G but I am not sure many would move to Orange. Regards, ====================== Andrew Wafula Wapakala Web: www.wertsoft.com MSN: a_wafula@hotmail.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/awafula Blog: http://thewert.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================== If you have made mistakes...there is always another chance for you... you may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down. - Mary Pickford "Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss People" On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
I said it, its funny but queen bee is about to get fatter. This is the worst policy Airtel ever pursued and will work against them. Unless something terrible happens at Westlands (like a coup), then QB might end up even fatter.
Talk of "aisifue mvua kamnyeshea".
If I was Mr. Meza I would pray the world opens I sink in Zap!
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How about quad sim phones <http://goo.gl/AQFyz> as a solution. On the comments as one hilariously puts it ... portable microwave ovens On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem was solved by getting multiple sims this portability biz is too late. .
On 4/7/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
its not only M-PESA personally, I stand to loose
- 3G - coverage (Does Orange GSM cover Eastern/North Eastern ?)
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Im not usually the guy to remind people of a long post on why Portability would not be succesful and I was called a Safaricom psychophant...... but the older i grow the more i think i should remind people. I wish I could trace the post and the reasons, but it has come to pass....... Now the telcoms go back to the drawing board and look for another "excuse" why they are not succesful On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Robinson muigai <bestwebkenya85@gmail.com>wrote:
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MNP is only 7 days old why all this fuss ? Even when Equity came people never moved the first day .. Airtel has alot of convincing to do .. but if it plays its cards well they still have a chance and again its not a one week thing .. So peter wait .... On 8 April 2011 16:55, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Im not usually the guy to remind people of a long post on why Portability would not be succesful and I was called a Safaricom psychophant...... but the older i grow the more i think i should remind people. I wish I could trace the post and the reasons, but it has come to pass.......
Now the telcoms go back to the drawing board and look for another "excuse" why they are not succesful
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Robinson muigai <bestwebkenya85@gmail.com>wrote:
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On 4/8/11 5:12 PM, Watson Kambo wrote:
MNP is only 7 days old why all this fuss ? Even when Equity came people never moved the first day .. Airtel has alot of convincing to do .. but if it plays its cards well they still have a chance and again its not a one week thing .. So peter wait ....
Hypothetically speaking - Ii the operators said that its free to move until 10th April. We may have seen some traction to beat the free deadline. But since its not the case, i move when i move!. TIA!. my 2 cents, Mich
Andy, Yes, it remains "what if", what if never generates revenue! People want a solution that works, currently Sfc has a solution that works n thats the most important thing. So what if a Kenyan invented a robot? What is the use of 3G internet on Airtel when my idiot couldnt sniff a whiff of it? Btw, I ended up selling it at a profit! Tells you im not porting soon. Airtel n the other smaller players should ask themselves why 78% choose to stay away from them. They'll make it after answering that, not falling over themselves on MNP.
From my market analysis, I see larger customers porting to Safaricom and that will be a travesty to the smaller players.
Peter On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
On 4/8/11 5:12 PM, Watson Kambo wrote:
MNP is only 7 days old why all this fuss ? Even when Equity came people never moved the first day .. Airtel has alot of convincing to do .. but if it plays its cards well they still have a chance and again its not a one week thing .. So peter wait ....
All they really need to do is roll out even half decent 3G and tell people theyll still be able to recieve money from mpesa and send to safaricom numbers... which is in fact the case, just a bit cumbersome but real. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
On 4/8/11 5:12 PM, Watson Kambo wrote:
MNP is only 7 days old why all this fuss ? Even when Equity came people never moved the first day .. Airtel has alot of convincing to do .. but if it plays its cards well they still have a chance and again its not a one week thing .. So peter wait ....
Hypothetically speaking - Ii the operators said that its free to move until 10th April. We may have seen some traction to beat the free deadline.
But since its not the case, i move when i move!. TIA!.
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At the point when they (read airtel,orange and Yu) realise that Bonga points and Mpesa are as important as 3G, they will shake safaricom. 3G must be the starting point. Zap being the follow up. And given the base stations Airtel is rolling out are 4G capable, who knows what comes after that? On 4/8/11, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
All they really need to do is roll out even half decent 3G and tell people theyll still be able to recieve money from mpesa and send to safaricom numbers... which is in fact the case, just a bit cumbersome but real.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
On 4/8/11 5:12 PM, Watson Kambo wrote:
MNP is only 7 days old why all this fuss ? Even when Equity came people never moved the first day .. Airtel has alot of convincing to do .. but if it plays its cards well they still have a chance and again its not a one week thing .. So peter wait ....
Hypothetically speaking - Ii the operators said that its free to move until 10th April. We may have seen some traction to beat the free deadline.
But since its not the case, i move when i move!. TIA!.
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As Mark says this was solved by multiple sim cards, dual-sim phones and getting the number you want. Heavily reliant as i am on mobile data, i have had to crawl, pun intended, back to safcon. Talking of which wasn't airtel 3g supposed to roll out by end of last quarter? The other 3 telcos need to up their own game. Prayer, as a pal keeps reminding me, is not a strategy. ++++++ there's an app for that :-p On Apr 9, 2011 9:46 AM, "John Doe" <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
At the point when they (read airtel,orange and Yu) realise that Bonga points and Mpesa are as important as 3G, they will shake safaricom. 3G must be the starting point. Zap being the follow up. And given the base stations Airtel is rolling out are 4G capable, who knows what comes after that?
On 4/8/11, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
All they really need to do is roll out even half decent 3G and tell people theyll still be able to recieve money from mpesa and send to safaricom numbers... which is in fact the case, just a bit cumbersome but real.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
On 4/8/11 5:12 PM, Watson Kambo wrote:
MNP is only 7 days old why all this fuss ? Even when Equity came
people
never moved the first day .. Airtel has alot of convincing to do .. but if it plays its cards well they still have a chance and again its not a one week thing .. So peter wait ....
Hypothetically speaking - Ii the operators said that its free to move until 10th April. We may have seen some traction to beat the free deadline.
But since its not the case, i move when i move!. TIA!.
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Airtel 3G launch date set for June. Currently in test phase till next month. On 09/04/2011, amanya <whynnot@gmail.com> wrote:
As Mark says this was solved by multiple sim cards, dual-sim phones and getting the number you want.
Heavily reliant as i am on mobile data, i have had to crawl, pun intended, back to safcon. Talking of which wasn't airtel 3g supposed to roll out by end of last quarter?
The other 3 telcos need to up their own game. Prayer, as a pal keeps reminding me, is not a strategy.
++++++ there's an app for that :-p
On Apr 9, 2011 9:46 AM, "John Doe" <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
At the point when they (read airtel,orange and Yu) realise that Bonga points and Mpesa are as important as 3G, they will shake safaricom. 3G must be the starting point. Zap being the follow up. And given the base stations Airtel is rolling out are 4G capable, who knows what comes after that?
On 4/8/11, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
All they really need to do is roll out even half decent 3G and tell people theyll still be able to recieve money from mpesa and send to safaricom numbers... which is in fact the case, just a bit cumbersome but real.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
On 4/8/11 5:12 PM, Watson Kambo wrote:
MNP is only 7 days old why all this fuss ? Even when Equity came
people
never moved the first day .. Airtel has alot of convincing to do .. but if it plays its cards well they still have a chance and again its not a one week thing .. So peter wait ....
Hypothetically speaking - Ii the operators said that its free to move until 10th April. We may have seen some traction to beat the free deadline.
But since its not the case, i move when i move!. TIA!.
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Test phase my foot! Where is it being tested? In the lab? On 4/10/11, Nawaz Bagha <nawazb@gmail.com> wrote:
Airtel 3G launch date set for June. Currently in test phase till next month.
On 09/04/2011, amanya <whynnot@gmail.com> wrote:
As Mark says this was solved by multiple sim cards, dual-sim phones and getting the number you want.
Heavily reliant as i am on mobile data, i have had to crawl, pun intended, back to safcon. Talking of which wasn't airtel 3g supposed to roll out by end of last quarter?
The other 3 telcos need to up their own game. Prayer, as a pal keeps reminding me, is not a strategy.
++++++ there's an app for that :-p
On Apr 9, 2011 9:46 AM, "John Doe" <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
At the point when they (read airtel,orange and Yu) realise that Bonga points and Mpesa are as important as 3G, they will shake safaricom. 3G must be the starting point. Zap being the follow up. And given the base stations Airtel is rolling out are 4G capable, who knows what comes after that?
On 4/8/11, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
All they really need to do is roll out even half decent 3G and tell people theyll still be able to recieve money from mpesa and send to safaricom numbers... which is in fact the case, just a bit cumbersome but real.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
On 4/8/11 5:12 PM, Watson Kambo wrote:
MNP is only 7 days old why all this fuss ? Even when Equity came
people
never moved the first day .. Airtel has alot of convincing to do .. but if it plays its cards well they still have a chance and again its not a one week thing .. So peter wait ....
Hypothetically speaking - Ii the operators said that its free to move until 10th April. We may have seen some traction to beat the free deadline.
But since its not the case, i move when i move!. TIA!.
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Please go easy on Airtel and the other small operators.
Other small operators, maybe. Airrel? Heck! Airtel has been here since time immemorial... :_( On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Please go easy on Airtel and the other small operators.
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I agree with Watson Kambo and like minded people. Safcom have enjoyed their dominance for sometime now but they also know that they can't keep moving forever. Telcommunication changes everyday and its your market conveniences that favors you. A thousand people is a big step! Kenyans have queer ways of doing things! and if this is true then don't be suprised if you woke up to an Airtel dominated Kenya
I think the whole number portability thing was overtaken by events. At the time it was conceived, calling rates were high and the idea was to break the "club" effect that safaricom was currently enjoying. Airtel is trying to woo people over with rational explanations. Good luck with that. My experience is that the explanation that "everyone is doing it" seems to justify pretty much anything. Find people who influence opinion, move them over, and maybe portability would gain traction then Thats my 2 cents. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mak Muva <makmuva@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Watson Kambo and like minded people. Safcom have enjoyed their dominance for sometime now but they also know that they can't keep moving forever. Telcommunication changes everyday and its your market conveniences that favors you. A thousand people is a big step! Kenyans have queer ways of doing things! and if this is true then don't be suprised if you woke up to an Airtel dominated Kenya _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Flogging a solution for a problem that does not exist is not a smart move IMO. Safaricom keeps its clientele because it works. you want fast internet? safaricom has HSDPA and works right off a regular simcard. Want to transfer money? Safaricom has a countrywide network, bank affiliations, and western union. Are you a techno dweeb? Safaricom has an array of android,blackberry,nokia,sony erickson handsets and assorted tablets from the cheap to the not so cheap. . .the choice is yours. . For Airtel and Orange (Yu is technically owned by Vodafone) the ecosystem does not exist yet or is not juicy enough for most of the people I know to waarrant a move. maybe the targeted demographic is different? On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the whole number portability thing was overtaken by events.
At the time it was conceived, calling rates were high and the idea was to break the "club" effect that safaricom was currently enjoying.
Airtel is trying to woo people over with rational explanations. Good luck with that. My experience is that the explanation that "everyone is doing it" seems to justify pretty much anything. Find people who influence opinion, move them over, and maybe portability would gain traction then
Thats my 2 cents.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mak Muva <makmuva@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Watson Kambo and like minded people. Safcom have enjoyed their dominance for sometime now but they also know that they can't keep moving forever. Telcommunication changes everyday and its your market conveniences that favors you. A thousand people is a big step! Kenyans have queer ways of doing things! and if this is true then don't be suprised if you woke up to an Airtel dominated Kenya _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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And what happens to subscribed Mbanking services Short Codes like *677#, *522# after porting away from the Network you registered them with? On 4/11/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Flogging a solution for a problem that does not exist is not a smart move IMO. Safaricom keeps its clientele because it works. you want fast internet? safaricom has HSDPA and works right off a regular simcard. Want to transfer money? Safaricom has a countrywide network, bank affiliations, and western union. Are you a techno dweeb? Safaricom has an array of android,blackberry,nokia,sony erickson handsets and assorted tablets from the cheap to the not so cheap. . .the choice is yours. .
For Airtel and Orange (Yu is technically owned by Vodafone) the ecosystem does not exist yet or is not juicy enough for most of the people I know to waarrant a move. maybe the targeted demographic is different?
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the whole number portability thing was overtaken by events.
At the time it was conceived, calling rates were high and the idea was to break the "club" effect that safaricom was currently enjoying.
Airtel is trying to woo people over with rational explanations. Good luck with that. My experience is that the explanation that "everyone is doing it" seems to justify pretty much anything. Find people who influence opinion, move them over, and maybe portability would gain traction then
Thats my 2 cents.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mak Muva <makmuva@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Watson Kambo and like minded people. Safcom have enjoyed their dominance for sometime now but they also know that they can't keep moving forever. Telcommunication changes everyday and its your market conveniences that favors you. A thousand people is a big step! Kenyans have queer ways of doing things! and if this is true then don't be suprised if you woke up to an Airtel dominated Kenya _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Very simple really, after you port, you lose the good and the bad of your previous network and embrace the evils and joys of the next. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Edward Kimani <edwardkmn@gmail.com> wrote:
And what happens to subscribed Mbanking services Short Codes like *677#, *522# after porting away from the Network you registered them with?
On 4/11/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Flogging a solution for a problem that does not exist is not a smart move IMO. Safaricom keeps its clientele because it works. you want fast internet? safaricom has HSDPA and works right off a regular simcard. Want to transfer money? Safaricom has a countrywide network, bank affiliations, and western union. Are you a techno dweeb? Safaricom has an array of android,blackberry,nokia,sony erickson handsets and assorted tablets from the cheap to the not so cheap. . .the choice is yours. .
For Airtel and Orange (Yu is technically owned by Vodafone) the ecosystem does not exist yet or is not juicy enough for most of the people I know to waarrant a move. maybe the targeted demographic is different?
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the whole number portability thing was overtaken by events.
At the time it was conceived, calling rates were high and the idea was to break the "club" effect that safaricom was currently enjoying.
Airtel is trying to woo people over with rational explanations. Good luck with that. My experience is that the explanation that "everyone is doing it" seems to justify pretty much anything. Find people who influence opinion, move them over, and maybe portability would gain traction then
Thats my 2 cents.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mak Muva <makmuva@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Watson Kambo and like minded people. Safcom have enjoyed their dominance for sometime now but they also know that they can't keep moving forever. Telcommunication changes everyday and its your market conveniences that favors you. A thousand people is a big step! Kenyans have queer ways of doing things! and if this is true then don't be suprised if you woke up to an Airtel dominated Kenya _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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You may see reverse portiiiiing.. Guys moving from other small networks to Safaricom. Smaller networks should be very worried. Main problem with Airtel is that it views Safaricom as its problem, instead of looking to Safaricom for answers. Yatafakali hayo. /Bonz On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, george < theonlydamnedavailablename@gmail.com> wrote:
Very simple really, after you port, you lose the good and the bad of your previous network and embrace the evils and joys of the next.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Edward Kimani <edwardkmn@gmail.com>wrote:
And what happens to subscribed Mbanking services Short Codes like *677#, *522# after porting away from the Network you registered them with?
On 4/11/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Flogging a solution for a problem that does not exist is not a smart move IMO. Safaricom keeps its clientele because it works. you want fast internet? safaricom has HSDPA and works right off a regular simcard. Want to transfer money? Safaricom has a countrywide network, bank affiliations, and western union. Are you a techno dweeb? Safaricom has an array of android,blackberry,nokia,sony erickson handsets and assorted tablets from the cheap to the not so cheap. . .the choice is yours. .
For Airtel and Orange (Yu is technically owned by Vodafone) the ecosystem does not exist yet or is not juicy enough for most of the people I know to waarrant a move. maybe the targeted demographic is different?
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the whole number portability thing was overtaken by events.
At the time it was conceived, calling rates were high and the idea was to break the "club" effect that safaricom was currently enjoying.
Airtel is trying to woo people over with rational explanations. Good luck with that. My experience is that the explanation that "everyone is doing it" seems to justify pretty much anything. Find people who influence opinion, move them over, and maybe portability would gain traction then
Thats my 2 cents.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mak Muva <makmuva@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Watson Kambo and like minded people. Safcom have enjoyed their dominance for sometime now but they also know that they can't keep moving forever. Telcommunication changes everyday and its your market conveniences that favors you. A thousand people is a big step! Kenyans have queer ways of doing things! and if this is true then don't be suprised if you woke up to an Airtel dominated Kenya _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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they should be looking to their subscribers for answers not safaricom. For example safaricom subscribers complain about clarity, but are willing to climb trees to get clear network. maybe we actually enjoy the tree climbing process! On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
You may see reverse portiiiiing.. Guys moving from other small networks to Safaricom. Smaller networks should be very worried. Main problem with Airtel is that it views Safaricom as its problem, instead of looking to Safaricom for answers.
Yatafakali hayo.
/Bonz
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, george < theonlydamnedavailablename@gmail.com> wrote:
Very simple really, after you port, you lose the good and the bad of your previous network and embrace the evils and joys of the next.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Edward Kimani <edwardkmn@gmail.com>wrote:
And what happens to subscribed Mbanking services Short Codes like *677#, *522# after porting away from the Network you registered them with?
On 4/11/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Flogging a solution for a problem that does not exist is not a smart move IMO. Safaricom keeps its clientele because it works. you want fast internet? safaricom has HSDPA and works right off a regular simcard. Want to transfer money? Safaricom has a countrywide network, bank affiliations, and western union. Are you a techno dweeb? Safaricom has an array of android,blackberry,nokia,sony erickson handsets and assorted tablets from the cheap to the not so cheap. . .the choice is yours. .
For Airtel and Orange (Yu is technically owned by Vodafone) the ecosystem does not exist yet or is not juicy enough for most of the people I know to waarrant a move. maybe the targeted demographic is different?
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the whole number portability thing was overtaken by events.
At the time it was conceived, calling rates were high and the idea was to break the "club" effect that safaricom was currently enjoying.
Airtel is trying to woo people over with rational explanations. Good luck with that. My experience is that the explanation that "everyone is doing it" seems to justify pretty much anything. Find people who influence opinion, move them over, and maybe portability would gain traction then
Thats my 2 cents.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mak Muva <makmuva@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Watson Kambo and like minded people. Safcom have enjoyed their dominance for sometime now but they also know that they can't keep moving forever. Telcommunication changes everyday and its your market conveniences that favors you. A thousand people is a big step! Kenyans have queer ways of doing things! and if this is true then don't be suprised if you woke up to an Airtel dominated Kenya _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Joram, Maybe we Safaricom users have peculiar tree climbing habits, just may be. That Airtel advert looks good until you realize they are selling Manchester United! I know Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City guys hate it with all the contempt that it deserves. Another good reason why a corporate's marketing strategy fails. And they keep complaining abt a certain "dominant player!" On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
they should be looking to their subscribers for answers not safaricom. For example safaricom subscribers complain about clarity, but are willing to climb trees to get clear network. maybe we actually enjoy the tree climbing process!
My take on the MNP is that in the long run it will benefit the dominant player, QB. Airtel will in particular loose immensely due to the fact that many subscribers first started with Kencell before joining safcom Many have kept their original Kencell numbers simply because moving to Safcom would have affected their businesses and contacts Simple mathematics shows that for every one customer that ports from Airtel to Safcom, Airtel must get 5 to port from safcom. This is a big odd to beat. The options available for other operators in order of are: 1. Consider Merging with others in the same predicament 2. Target the virgin markets and recruit new customers, Rural areas, s. Sudan and Somalia 3. Develop a new strategic plan, re-organise to bring on board new thinking 4. If you cant beat, them join them, just merge with QB 5. Cut the losses and run Shadrack
@ Shadrack, Interesting point. Rene Meza claims, for everyone who ports to Safaricom, 20 are porting to Airtel. Let's wait and see :-) Weird habits and all. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Shadrack Mwaniki < shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote:
My take on the MNP is that in the long run it will benefit the dominant player, QB.
Airtel will in particular loose immensely due to the fact that many subscribers first started with Kencell before joining safcom Many have kept their original Kencell numbers simply because moving to Safcom would have affected their businesses and contacts
Simple mathematics shows that for every one customer that ports from Airtel to Safcom, Airtel must get 5 to port from safcom. This is a big odd to beat.
The options available for other operators in order of are: 1. Consider Merging with others in the same predicament 2. Target the virgin markets and recruit new customers, Rural areas, s. Sudan and Somalia 3. Develop a new strategic plan, re-organise to bring on board new thinking 4. If you cant beat, them join them, just merge with QB 5. Cut the losses and run
Shadrack
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The way I see it, Safaricom will not sit around and lose clients because of say a 1 bob difference with Airtel, so the logical thing is they will level the cost to match Airtel thereby stemming this movement. Airtel on the other hand will have to stop relying on calls and come up with more innovative products, like safcom does time and again. Orange have the biggest potential..but need to make the most changes. Maybe Airtel can buy them. Yu--are they still around btw? If they are, they should probably change their name to fone express and get us some handsets.. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:03 AM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Shadrack,
Interesting point.
Rene Meza claims, for everyone who ports to Safaricom, 20 are porting to Airtel. Let's wait and see :-) Weird habits and all.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Shadrack Mwaniki < shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote:
My take on the MNP is that in the long run it will benefit the dominant player, QB.
Airtel will in particular loose immensely due to the fact that many subscribers first started with Kencell before joining safcom Many have kept their original Kencell numbers simply because moving to Safcom would have affected their businesses and contacts
Simple mathematics shows that for every one customer that ports from Airtel to Safcom, Airtel must get 5 to port from safcom. This is a big odd to beat.
The options available for other operators in order of are: 1. Consider Merging with others in the same predicament 2. Target the virgin markets and recruit new customers, Rural areas, s. Sudan and Somalia 3. Develop a new strategic plan, re-organise to bring on board new thinking 4. If you cant beat, them join them, just merge with QB 5. Cut the losses and run
Shadrack
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JD; As I said before, people are porting to QB in larger numbers than the other operators envisaged. Kenyans do not have issues with Safaricom, the problem we have is that once someone ports to another provider, they realize "hiyo ka'nyumba ni single room", hata choo ni shared. Then they port back to Sfc. When Airtel develop a mansion of a network <?lik safcom, and we all seem to have their sim anyway, the actions will be louder than words. For now they should not be pointing fingures at Safaricom yet their network is a single room, even if its brightly painted (clear network?). They need to built it. Peter On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:27 AM, george < theonlydamnedavailablename@gmail.com> wrote:
The way I see it,
Safaricom will not sit around and lose clients because of say a 1 bob difference with Airtel, so the logical thing is they will level the cost to match Airtel thereby stemming this movement.
Airtel on the other hand will have to stop relying on calls and come up with more innovative products, like safcom does time and again.
Orange have the biggest potential..but need to make the most changes. Maybe Airtel can buy them.
Yu--are they still around btw? If they are, they should probably change their name to fone express and get us some handsets..
are there any official figures to back these claims up? On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
JD;
As I said before, people are porting to QB in larger numbers than the other operators envisaged. Kenyans do not have issues with Safaricom, the problem we have is that once someone ports to another provider, they realize "hiyo ka'nyumba ni single room", hata choo ni shared. Then they port back to Sfc.
When Airtel develop a mansion of a network <?lik safcom, and we all seem to have their sim anyway, the actions will be louder than words. For now they should not be pointing fingures at Safaricom yet their network is a single room, even if its brightly painted (clear network?). They need to built it.
Peter
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:27 AM, george < theonlydamnedavailablename@gmail.com> wrote:
The way I see it,
Safaricom will not sit around and lose clients because of say a 1 bob difference with Airtel, so the logical thing is they will level the cost to match Airtel thereby stemming this movement.
Airtel on the other hand will have to stop relying on calls and come up with more innovative products, like safcom does time and again.
Orange have the biggest potential..but need to make the most changes. Maybe Airtel can buy them.
Yu--are they still around btw? If they are, they should probably change their name to fone express and get us some handsets..
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