Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from kenyans all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does security systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and his company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth 700m USD) He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes list?
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Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from kenyans all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does security systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and his company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth 700m USD) He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes list?
http://www.freshpatents.com/Julius-Mwale-NewYork-invdirm.php
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Can you believe Moi's govt forced him to go into exile. Rather sad.
That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very common biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope not). I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic behaves more like a swarm. But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested system. Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be quite interesting. Saidi On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from kenyans all
this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does security systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and his company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth 700m USD) He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes list?
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Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his name for his stories that are all over the net. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very common biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope not).
I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic behaves more like a swarm.
But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested system.
Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be quite interesting.
Saidi
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from kenyans all
this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does security systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and his company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth 700m USD) He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes list?
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Maybe we can (dreaming) get him to do a skunk talk ? -- Josiah Mugambi Samuel Goldwyn<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/samuel_goldwyn.html> - "I'm willing to admit that I may not always be right, but I am never wrong." On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his name for his stories that are all over the net.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very common biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope not).
I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic behaves more like a swarm.
But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested system.
Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be quite interesting.
Saidi
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from kenyans
all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does security systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and his company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth 700m USD) He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes list?
http://www.freshpatents.com/Julius-Mwale-NewYork-invdirm.php
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He gave a talk at Mindspeak sometime last year, so it just might be possible. On 1/21/10, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his name for his stories that are all over the net.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very common biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope not).
I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic behaves more like a swarm.
But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested system.
Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be quite interesting.
Saidi
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from kenyans
all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does security systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and his company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth 700m USD) He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes list?
http://www.freshpatents.com/Julius-Mwale-NewYork-invdirm.php
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at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich.
Well, if the *only* standard is wealth then he has definitely exceeded it. Saidi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his name for his stories that are all over the net.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very common biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope not).
I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic behaves more like a swarm.
But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested system.
Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be quite interesting.
Saidi
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from kenyans
all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does security systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and his company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth 700m USD) He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes list?
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saidimu you sound bitter...talk to us whats the problem...we can help On 1/21/10, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich.
Well, if the *only* standard is wealth then he has definitely exceeded it.
Saidi
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his name for his stories that are all over the net.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very common biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope not).
I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic behaves more like a swarm.
But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested system.
Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be quite interesting.
Saidi
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2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from kenyans
all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does security systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and his company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth 700m USD) He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes list?
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Thanks for the therapy offer, but I get mine from Slashdot. You are on to something though. For a tech list, I expected people to be celebrated for technical achievements, not wealth accumulated via any means. If this was exclusively a biz-oriented list, then that would be fine. But I expected that we would be awed my ingenious technology, and even more awed by such technology marketed successfully. Julius Mwale definitely isn't the poster boy for patents gone bad, but I don't think we should celebrate him just because he filed a patent and made a couple of mil. If that's the metric, there are more successful patent trolls with gigantic portfolios worth a lot (none are Kenyan though, AFAIK). Instead, I think we should be celebrating the technical genius of slum kids or jua-kali dudes with no patents or IPOs to ride. The fact that we regularly ignore them is cause for distress, I think. That, in short, is the cause of my angst. So Joseph, can I take you up on your offer? Saidi On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
saidimu you sound bitter...talk to us whats the problem...we can help
On 1/21/10, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich.
Well, if the *only* standard is wealth then he has definitely exceeded it.
Saidi
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his name for his stories that are all over the net.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com>wrote:
That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very common biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope not).
I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic behaves more like a swarm.
But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested system.
Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be quite interesting.
Saidi
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Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from kenyans
all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does security systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and his company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth 700m USD) He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes list?
http://www.freshpatents.com/Julius-Mwale-NewYork-invdirm.php
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I understand now where you coming from.Your right On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 9:13 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the therapy offer, but I get mine from Slashdot.
You are on to something though. For a tech list, I expected people to be celebrated for technical achievements, not wealth accumulated via any means. If this was exclusively a biz-oriented list, then that would be fine. But I expected that we would be awed my ingenious technology, and even more awed by such technology marketed successfully.
Julius Mwale definitely isn't the poster boy for patents gone bad, but I don't think we should celebrate him just because he filed a patent and made a couple of mil. If that's the metric, there are more successful patent trolls with gigantic portfolios worth a lot (none are Kenyan though, AFAIK).
Instead, I think we should be celebrating the technical genius of slum kids or jua-kali dudes with no patents or IPOs to ride. The fact that we regularly ignore them is cause for distress, I think.
That, in short, is the cause of my angst.
So Joseph, can I take you up on your offer?
Saidi
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
saidimu you sound bitter...talk to us whats the problem...we can help
On 1/21/10, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich.
Well, if the *only* standard is wealth then he has definitely exceeded it.
Saidi
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com
wrote:
Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his name for his stories that are all over the net.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com>wrote:
That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very common biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope not).
I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic behaves more like a swarm.
But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested system.
Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be quite interesting.
Saidi
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2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from kenyans > all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does security systems > for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and his company is > worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth 700m USD) He owns 80% > and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes list? > > > > > http://www.freshpatents.com/Julius-Mwale-NewYork-invdirm.php
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Hi Guys, I beg to differ on this. While I understand the natural tech aversion to "dirty money" it is a fact of life that we need the stuff to survive in this modern world. In my view Mwale is a good example of taking a gift/talent/skill and turning it into a commercial success. Needless to say he dfenitely didn't do it singlehandedly, there must have been enough other brains and sweat in the background - but he had the smarts to capitalize his company in a way that released personal wealth for himself. Let's remember that these days it's not that easy to do an IPO for atech company in America, couple with the dot-com bubble burst and the credit crunch, it is mainly businesses with strong revenue potential that really get the funding. Nevertheless - the point I'm making is that though this might be a tech list, it doesn't hurt to give kudos to those of us who are able to translate our innovation, ideas etc into wealth. I would be the first to say kudos to the likes of David Mugo, Njihia Mbugua, Idd Salim, Gichungwa, Mutinda and others who through their innovation hold the potential for commercial breakthrough. Regards, Brian On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:13 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the therapy offer, but I get mine from Slashdot.
You are on to something though. For a tech list, I expected people to be celebrated for technical achievements, not wealth accumulated via any means. If this was exclusively a biz-oriented list, then that would be fine. But I expected that we would be awed my ingenious technology, and even more awed by such technology marketed successfully.
Julius Mwale definitely isn't the poster boy for patents gone bad, but I don't think we should celebrate him just because he filed a patent and made a couple of mil. If that's the metric, there are more successful patent trolls with gigantic portfolios worth a lot (none are Kenyan though, AFAIK).
Instead, I think we should be celebrating the technical genius of slum kids or jua-kali dudes with no patents or IPOs to ride. The fact that we regularly ignore them is cause for distress, I think.
That, in short, is the cause of my angst.
So Joseph, can I take you up on your offer?
Saidi
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
saidimu you sound bitter...talk to us whats the problem...we can help
On 1/21/10, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich.
Well, if the *only* standard is wealth then he has definitely exceeded it.
Saidi
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com
wrote:
Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his name for his stories that are all over the net.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com>wrote:
That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very common biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope not).
I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic behaves more like a swarm.
But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested system.
Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be quite interesting.
Saidi
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2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from kenyans > all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does security systems > for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and his company is > worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth 700m USD) He owns 80% > and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes list? > > > > > http://www.freshpatents.com/Julius-Mwale-NewYork-invdirm.php
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Whats the point of a great idea if its not useful? Isnt commercial success one measure of a great invention? Because the fact that people pay for it means there is demand for it and its being useful We have seen countless examples of brilliant IT inventions that lie in the sea of forgetfullness. I think that someone who manages to create an idea and turn it into wealth deserves to be celebrated. Even better when that wealth is used for good( i still wonder if you hav googled him and seen what his foundation run by his wife does in ukambani) Methinks tech dudes need to learn that a tech idea not commercialised is like a great business invention or even medical procedure that remains a great idea...... On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Guys,
I beg to differ on this. While I understand the natural tech aversion to "dirty money" it is a fact of life that we need the stuff to survive in this modern world.
In my view Mwale is a good example of taking a gift/talent/skill and turning it into a commercial success. Needless to say he dfenitely didn't do it singlehandedly, there must have been enough other brains and sweat in the background - but he had the smarts to capitalize his company in a way that released personal wealth for himself. Let's remember that these days it's not that easy to do an IPO for atech company in America, couple with the dot-com bubble burst and the credit crunch, it is mainly businesses with strong revenue potential that really get the funding.
Nevertheless - the point I'm making is that though this might be a tech list, it doesn't hurt to give kudos to those of us who are able to translate our innovation, ideas etc into wealth. I would be the first to say kudos to the likes of David Mugo, Njihia Mbugua, Idd Salim, Gichungwa, Mutinda and others who through their innovation hold the potential for commercial breakthrough.
Regards,
Brian
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:13 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the therapy offer, but I get mine from Slashdot.
You are on to something though. For a tech list, I expected people to be celebrated for technical achievements, not wealth accumulated via any means. If this was exclusively a biz-oriented list, then that would be fine. But I expected that we would be awed my ingenious technology, and even more awed by such technology marketed successfully.
Julius Mwale definitely isn't the poster boy for patents gone bad, but I don't think we should celebrate him just because he filed a patent and made a couple of mil. If that's the metric, there are more successful patent trolls with gigantic portfolios worth a lot (none are Kenyan though, AFAIK).
Instead, I think we should be celebrating the technical genius of slum kids or jua-kali dudes with no patents or IPOs to ride. The fact that we regularly ignore them is cause for distress, I think.
That, in short, is the cause of my angst.
So Joseph, can I take you up on your offer?
Saidi
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
saidimu you sound bitter...talk to us whats the problem...we can help
On 1/21/10, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich.
Well, if the *only* standard is wealth then he has definitely exceeded it.
Saidi
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo < joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his name for his stories that are all over the net.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com>wrote:
That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very common biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope not).
I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic behaves more like a swarm.
But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested system.
Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be quite interesting.
Saidi
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Mr. Mwale has just been featured on NTV's money matters where he has given a top level description of his "invention" On 26/01/2010, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Whats the point of a great idea if its not useful? Isnt commercial success one measure of a great invention? Because the fact that people pay for it means there is demand for it and its being useful
We have seen countless examples of brilliant IT inventions that lie in the sea of forgetfullness. I think that someone who manages to create an idea and turn it into wealth deserves to be celebrated. Even better when that wealth is used for good( i still wonder if you hav googled him and seen what his foundation run by his wife does in ukambani)
Methinks tech dudes need to learn that a tech idea not commercialised is like a great business invention or even medical procedure that remains a great idea......
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Guys,
I beg to differ on this. While I understand the natural tech aversion to "dirty money" it is a fact of life that we need the stuff to survive in this modern world.
In my view Mwale is a good example of taking a gift/talent/skill and turning it into a commercial success. Needless to say he dfenitely didn't do it singlehandedly, there must have been enough other brains and sweat in the background - but he had the smarts to capitalize his company in a way that released personal wealth for himself. Let's remember that these days it's not that easy to do an IPO for atech company in America, couple with the dot-com bubble burst and the credit crunch, it is mainly businesses with strong revenue potential that really get the funding.
Nevertheless - the point I'm making is that though this might be a tech list, it doesn't hurt to give kudos to those of us who are able to translate our innovation, ideas etc into wealth. I would be the first to say kudos to the likes of David Mugo, Njihia Mbugua, Idd Salim, Gichungwa, Mutinda and others who through their innovation hold the potential for commercial breakthrough.
Regards,
Brian
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:13 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the therapy offer, but I get mine from Slashdot.
You are on to something though. For a tech list, I expected people to be celebrated for technical achievements, not wealth accumulated via any means. If this was exclusively a biz-oriented list, then that would be fine. But I expected that we would be awed my ingenious technology, and even more awed by such technology marketed successfully.
Julius Mwale definitely isn't the poster boy for patents gone bad, but I don't think we should celebrate him just because he filed a patent and made a couple of mil. If that's the metric, there are more successful patent trolls with gigantic portfolios worth a lot (none are Kenyan though, AFAIK).
Instead, I think we should be celebrating the technical genius of slum kids or jua-kali dudes with no patents or IPOs to ride. The fact that we regularly ignore them is cause for distress, I think.
That, in short, is the cause of my angst.
So Joseph, can I take you up on your offer?
Saidi
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
saidimu you sound bitter...talk to us whats the problem...we can help
On 1/21/10, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich.
Well, if the *only* standard is wealth then he has definitely exceeded it.
Saidi
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo < joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his name for his stories that are all over the net.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com>wrote:
> That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason > software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very > common > biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope > not). > > > I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to > improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very > adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to > intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic > behaves > more like a swarm. > > > But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but > rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested > system. > > > Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be > quite interesting. > > > Saidi > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dennis Kioko > <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> 2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> >> >> Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from >>> kenyans all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does >>> security >>> systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and >>> his >>> company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth >>> 700m USD) >>> He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes >>> list? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> http://www.freshpatents.com/Julius-Mwale-NewYork-invdirm.php >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>> >>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> with Regards: >> >> Why you should not mind your own business, Find out at: >> http://gramware.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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think we are duped too easily. . . .http://tinyurl.com/ykxt9qc On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr. Mwale has just been featured on NTV's money matters where he has given a top level description of his "invention"
On 26/01/2010, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Whats the point of a great idea if its not useful? Isnt commercial success one measure of a great invention? Because the fact that people pay for it means there is demand for it and its being useful
We have seen countless examples of brilliant IT inventions that lie in the sea of forgetfullness. I think that someone who manages to create an idea and turn it into wealth deserves to be celebrated. Even better when that wealth is used for good( i still wonder if you hav googled him and seen what his foundation run by his wife does in ukambani)
Methinks tech dudes need to learn that a tech idea not commercialised is like a great business invention or even medical procedure that remains a great idea......
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Guys,
I beg to differ on this. While I understand the natural tech aversion to "dirty money" it is a fact of life that we need the stuff to survive in this modern world.
In my view Mwale is a good example of taking a gift/talent/skill and turning it into a commercial success. Needless to say he dfenitely didn't do it singlehandedly, there must have been enough other brains and sweat in the background - but he had the smarts to capitalize his company in a way that released personal wealth for himself. Let's remember that these days it's not that easy to do an IPO for atech company in America, couple with the dot-com bubble burst and the credit crunch, it is mainly businesses with strong revenue potential that really get the funding.
Nevertheless - the point I'm making is that though this might be a tech list, it doesn't hurt to give kudos to those of us who are able to translate our innovation, ideas etc into wealth. I would be the first to say kudos to the likes of David Mugo, Njihia Mbugua, Idd Salim, Gichungwa, Mutinda and others who through their innovation hold the potential for commercial breakthrough.
Regards,
Brian
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:13 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the therapy offer, but I get mine from Slashdot.
You are on to something though. For a tech list, I expected people to be celebrated for technical achievements, not wealth accumulated via any means. If this was exclusively a biz-oriented list, then that would be fine. But I expected that we would be awed my ingenious technology, and even more awed by such technology marketed successfully.
Julius Mwale definitely isn't the poster boy for patents gone bad, but I don't think we should celebrate him just because he filed a patent and made a couple of mil. If that's the metric, there are more successful patent trolls with gigantic portfolios worth a lot (none are Kenyan though, AFAIK).
Instead, I think we should be celebrating the technical genius of slum kids or jua-kali dudes with no patents or IPOs to ride. The fact that we regularly ignore them is cause for distress, I think.
That, in short, is the cause of my angst.
So Joseph, can I take you up on your offer?
Saidi
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
saidimu you sound bitter...talk to us whats the problem...we can help
On 1/21/10, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich.
Well, if the *only* standard is wealth then he has definitely
exceeded
it.
Saidi
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo < joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he > got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his > name > for his stories that are all over the net. > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale > <saidimu@gmail.com>wrote: > >> That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason >> software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very >> common >> biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope >> not). >> >> >> I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to >> improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very >> adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to >> intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic >> behaves >> more like a swarm. >> >> >> But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but >> rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested >> system. >> >> >> Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be >> quite interesting. >> >> >> Saidi >> >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dennis Kioko >> <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> 2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> >>> >>> Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from >>>> kenyans all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does >>>> security >>>> systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and >>>> his >>>> company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth >>>> 700m USD) >>>> He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. 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fooled by the $$$ thee hee hee skunkers the fawning over mwale $$was noma me i was initialy suspicious that forbes and the american media hadnt gotten this feel good american dream story from a man hailing from obamaland so i kept quite . On 2/9/10, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
think we are duped too easily. . . .http://tinyurl.com/ykxt9qc
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr. Mwale has just been featured on NTV's money matters where he has given a top level description of his "invention"
On 26/01/2010, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Whats the point of a great idea if its not useful? Isnt commercial success one measure of a great invention? Because the fact that people pay for it means there is demand for it and its being useful
We have seen countless examples of brilliant IT inventions that lie in the sea of forgetfullness. I think that someone who manages to create an idea and turn it into wealth deserves to be celebrated. Even better when that wealth is used for good( i still wonder if you hav googled him and seen what his foundation run by his wife does in ukambani)
Methinks tech dudes need to learn that a tech idea not commercialised is like a great business invention or even medical procedure that remains a great idea......
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Guys,
I beg to differ on this. While I understand the natural tech aversion to "dirty money" it is a fact of life that we need the stuff to survive in this modern world.
In my view Mwale is a good example of taking a gift/talent/skill and turning it into a commercial success. Needless to say he dfenitely didn't do it singlehandedly, there must have been enough other brains and sweat in the background - but he had the smarts to capitalize his company in a way that released personal wealth for himself. Let's remember that these days it's not that easy to do an IPO for atech company in America, couple with the dot-com bubble burst and the credit crunch, it is mainly businesses with strong revenue potential that really get the funding.
Nevertheless - the point I'm making is that though this might be a tech list, it doesn't hurt to give kudos to those of us who are able to translate our innovation, ideas etc into wealth. I would be the first to say kudos to the likes of David Mugo, Njihia Mbugua, Idd Salim, Gichungwa, Mutinda and others who through their innovation hold the potential for commercial breakthrough.
Regards,
Brian
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:13 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the therapy offer, but I get mine from Slashdot.
You are on to something though. For a tech list, I expected people to be celebrated for technical achievements, not wealth accumulated via any means. If this was exclusively a biz-oriented list, then that would be fine. But I expected that we would be awed my ingenious technology, and even more awed by such technology marketed successfully.
Julius Mwale definitely isn't the poster boy for patents gone bad, but I don't think we should celebrate him just because he filed a patent and made a couple of mil. If that's the metric, there are more successful patent trolls with gigantic portfolios worth a lot (none are Kenyan though, AFAIK).
Instead, I think we should be celebrating the technical genius of slum kids or jua-kali dudes with no patents or IPOs to ride. The fact that we regularly ignore them is cause for distress, I think.
That, in short, is the cause of my angst.
So Joseph, can I take you up on your offer?
Saidi
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
saidimu you sound bitter...talk to us whats the problem...we can help
On 1/21/10, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote: > > at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. > > > > Well, if the *only* standard is wealth then he has definitely exceeded > it. > > > Saidi > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo < > joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he >> got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his >> name >> for his stories that are all over the net. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale >> <saidimu@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason >>> software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very >>> common >>> biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I >>> hope >>> not). >>> >>> >>> I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to >>> improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very >>> adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to >>> intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic >>> behaves >>> more like a swarm. >>> >>> >>> But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but >>> rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested >>> system. >>> >>> >>> Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should >>> be >>> quite interesting. >>> >>> >>> Saidi >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dennis Kioko >>> <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from >>>>> kenyans all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does >>>>> security >>>>> systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and >>>>> his >>>>> company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is >>>>> worth >>>>> 700m USD) >>>>> He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes >>>>> list? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> http://www.freshpatents.com/Julius-Mwale-NewYork-invdirm.php >>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>> >>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> with Regards: >>>> >>>> Why you should not mind your own business, Find out at: >>>> http://gramware.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>> >>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>> >>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> God is not an excuse for lack of discipline >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are >> powerful beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that >> frightens >> us.There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other >> people >> won't >> feel insecure around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously >> give >> other people permission to do the same. >> As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically liberates >> others. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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its not proven that he isnt that rich yet.........hold your horses On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:26 PM, matere lusitche <kenyabizideas@gmail.com>wrote:
fooled by the $$$ thee hee hee skunkers the fawning over mwale $$was noma me i was initialy suspicious that forbes and the american media hadnt gotten this feel good american dream story from a man hailing from obamaland so i kept quite .
On 2/9/10, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
think we are duped too easily. . . .http://tinyurl.com/ykxt9qc
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr. Mwale has just been featured on NTV's money matters where he has given a top level description of his "invention"
On 26/01/2010, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Whats the point of a great idea if its not useful? Isnt commercial success one measure of a great invention? Because the fact that people pay for it means there is demand for it and its being useful
We have seen countless examples of brilliant IT inventions that lie in the sea of forgetfullness. I think that someone who manages to create an idea and turn it into wealth deserves to be celebrated. Even better when that wealth is used for good( i still wonder if you hav googled him and seen what his foundation run by his wife does in ukambani)
Methinks tech dudes need to learn that a tech idea not commercialised is like a great business invention or even medical procedure that remains a great idea......
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Guys,
I beg to differ on this. While I understand the natural tech aversion to "dirty money" it is a fact of life that we need the stuff to survive in this modern world.
In my view Mwale is a good example of taking a gift/talent/skill and turning it into a commercial success. Needless to say he dfenitely didn't do it singlehandedly, there must have been enough other brains and sweat in the background - but he had the smarts to capitalize his company in a way that released personal wealth for himself. Let's remember that these days it's not that easy to do an IPO for atech company in America, couple with the dot-com bubble burst and the credit crunch, it is mainly businesses with strong revenue potential that really get the funding.
Nevertheless - the point I'm making is that though this might be a tech list, it doesn't hurt to give kudos to those of us who are able to translate our innovation, ideas etc into wealth. I would be the first to say kudos to the likes of David Mugo, Njihia Mbugua, Idd Salim, Gichungwa, Mutinda and others who through their innovation hold the potential for commercial breakthrough.
Regards,
Brian
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:13 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the therapy offer, but I get mine from Slashdot.
You are on to something though. For a tech list, I expected people to be celebrated for technical achievements, not wealth accumulated via any means. If this was exclusively a biz-oriented list, then that would be fine. But I expected that we would be awed my ingenious technology, and even more awed by such technology marketed successfully.
Julius Mwale definitely isn't the poster boy for patents gone bad, but I don't think we should celebrate him just because he filed a patent and made a couple of mil. If that's the metric, there are more successful patent trolls with gigantic portfolios worth a lot (none are Kenyan though, AFAIK).
Instead, I think we should be celebrating the technical genius of slum kids or jua-kali dudes with no patents or IPOs to ride. The fact that we regularly ignore them is cause for distress, I think.
That, in short, is the cause of my angst.
So Joseph, can I take you up on your offer?
Saidi
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> saidimu you sound bitter...talk to us whats the problem...we can help > > > On 1/21/10, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. >> >> >> >> Well, if the *only* standard is wealth then he has definitely exceeded >> it. >> >> >> Saidi >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo < >> joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he >>> got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his >>> name >>> for his stories that are all over the net. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale >>> <saidimu@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason >>>> software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very >>>> common >>>> biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I >>>> hope >>>> not). >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to >>>> improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very >>>> adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to >>>> intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic >>>> behaves >>>> more like a swarm. >>>> >>>> >>>> But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but >>>> rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested >>>> system. >>>> >>>> >>>> Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should >>>> be >>>> quite interesting. >>>> >>>> >>>> Saidi >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dennis Kioko >>>> <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from >>>>>> kenyans all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does >>>>>> security >>>>>> systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and >>>>>> his >>>>>> company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is >>>>>> worth >>>>>> 700m USD) >>>>>> He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes >>>>>> list? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> http://www.freshpatents.com/Julius-Mwale-NewYork-invdirm.php >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>>> >>>>>>
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participants (11)
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Brian Munyao Longwe -
Dennis Kioko -
Gitonga Eric -
John Maina -
Joram Mwinamo -
Joseph McDonald -
Josiah Mugambi -
Mark Mwangi -
matere lusitche -
Peter Karunyu -
saidimu apale