On 26/01/2010, Joram Mwinamo <
joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Whats the point of a great idea if its not useful? Isnt commercial success
> one measure of a great invention? Because the fact that people pay for it
> means there is demand for it and its being useful
>
> We have seen countless examples of brilliant IT inventions that lie in the
> sea of forgetfullness. I think that someone who manages to create an idea
> and turn it into wealth deserves to be celebrated. Even better when that
> wealth is used for good( i still wonder if you hav googled him and seen what
> his foundation run by his wife does in ukambani)
>
> Methinks tech dudes need to learn that a tech idea not commercialised is
> like a great business invention or even medical procedure that remains a
> great idea......
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe
> <
blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I beg to differ on this. While I understand the natural tech aversion to
>> "dirty money" it is a fact of life that we need the stuff to survive in
>> this modern world.
>>
>> In my view Mwale is a good example of taking a gift/talent/skill and
>> turning it into a commercial success. Needless to say he dfenitely didn't
>> do
>> it singlehandedly, there must have been enough other brains and sweat in
>> the
>> background - but he had the smarts to capitalize his company in a way that
>> released personal wealth for himself. Let's remember that these days it's
>> not that easy to do an IPO for atech company in America, couple with the
>> dot-com bubble burst and the credit crunch, it is mainly businesses with
>> strong revenue potential that really get the funding.
>>
>> Nevertheless - the point I'm making is that though this might be a tech
>> list, it doesn't hurt to give kudos to those of us who are able to
>> translate
>> our innovation, ideas etc into wealth. I would be the first to say kudos
>> to
>> the likes of David Mugo, Njihia Mbugua, Idd Salim, Gichungwa, Mutinda and
>> others who through their innovation hold the potential for commercial
>> breakthrough.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:13 AM, saidimu apale <
saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the therapy offer, but I get mine from Slashdot.
>>>
>>> You are on to something though. For a tech list, I expected people to be
>>> celebrated for technical achievements, not wealth accumulated via any
>>> means.
>>> If this was exclusively a biz-oriented list, then that would be fine. But
>>> I
>>> expected that we would be awed my ingenious technology, and even more
>>> awed
>>> by such technology marketed successfully.
>>>
>>> Julius Mwale definitely isn't the poster boy for patents gone bad, but I
>>> don't think we should celebrate him just because he filed a patent and
>>> made
>>> a couple of mil. If that's the metric, there are more successful patent
>>> trolls with gigantic portfolios worth a lot (none are Kenyan though,
>>> AFAIK).
>>>
>>> Instead, I think we should be celebrating the technical genius of slum
>>> kids or jua-kali dudes with no patents or IPOs to ride. The fact that we
>>> regularly ignore them is cause for distress, I think.
>>>
>>> That, in short, is the cause of my angst.
>>>
>>> So Joseph, can I take you up on your offer?
>>>
>>> Saidi
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Joseph McDonald
>>> <
mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> saidimu you sound bitter...talk to us whats the problem...we can help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/21/10, saidimu apale <
saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> at least he got an idea that has now made the dude super rich.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, if the *only* standard is wealth then he has definitely exceeded
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Saidi
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Joram Mwinamo <
>>>>>
joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Saidi, i dont think his patent was useless. And if it was, at least he
>>>>>> got an idea that has now made the dude super rich. You can google his
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> for his stories that are all over the net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM, saidimu apale
>>>>>> <
saidimu@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's an excellent example of a useless patent, and the reason
>>>>>>> software patents are "a bad thing". The method described is a very
>>>>>>> common
>>>>>>> biometric authentication method, I wonder if it was awarded (I hope
>>>>>>> not).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to see patents for *real* inventions, perhaps a way to
>>>>>>> improve image-recognition algorithms so they can work well under very
>>>>>>> adverse conditions (like in a rainstorm, for example). Or a way to
>>>>>>> intelligently route traffic in a place like Nairobi, where traffic
>>>>>>> behaves
>>>>>>> more like a swarm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I suppose the whole idea of patents isn't to invent any more, but
>>>>>>> rather principally to make money by gaming the loophole-infested
>>>>>>> system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Back to Julius Mwela: I'm very curious to hear his story, should be
>>>>>>> quite interesting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saidi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dennis Kioko
>>>>>>> <
dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/1/20 Joram Mwinamo <
joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where did the dude appear from and how come he was hidden from
>>>>>>>>> kenyans all this time? He runs an it company SBA tech which does
>>>>>>>>> security
>>>>>>>>> systems for mobile cash transfers. an IPO on nasdaq is pending and
>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>> company is worth 7B USD( by my poor calculations coz 10% is worth
>>>>>>>>> 700m USD)
>>>>>>>>> He owns 80% and sleeps 8 hrs a week. How did this guy escape forbes
>>>>>>>>> list?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
http://www.freshpatents.com/Julius-Mwale-NewYork-invdirm.php
>>>>>>>>
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> God is not an excuse for lack of discipline
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful
> beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us.There is
> nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure
> around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other people
> permission to do the same.
> As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically liberates
> others.
>