Good morning all, just got this text from Zain: NEW TARIFF! Call for only Kshs 3 and SMS for only Ksh 1 to any network in Kenya 24 hours a day. No terms & conditions. Only from the strongest network in Kenya! -- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
YEAH!! Zain rocks! I got the same text and actually sent a text to a Safaricom number and it cost 1 bob! On , Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
Good morning all, just got this text from Zain:
NEW TARIFF! Call for only Kshs 3 and SMS for only Ksh 1 to any network in Kenya 24 hours a day. No terms & conditions. Only from the strongest network in Kenya!
-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
Its been in the papers since yesterday......... On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:05 AM, <sheeroh@gmail.com> wrote:
YEAH!! Zain rocks! I got the same text and actually sent a text to a Safaricom number and it cost 1 bob!
On , Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
Good morning all, just got this text from Zain:
NEW TARIFF! Call for only Kshs 3 and SMS for only Ksh 1 to any network in Kenya 24 hours a day. No terms & conditions. Only from the strongest network in Kenya!
-- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke
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Kumbe these Airtel guys really meant it...I guess we'll have to wait and see whether price changes can still change market dynamics significantly compared to the much-touted QoS and data services (which is safcom's supposed biggest angle at the moment). Time will tell!
Now they are behaving. What next? On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
Kumbe these Airtel guys really meant it...I guess we'll have to wait and see whether price changes can still change market dynamics significantly compared to the much-touted QoS and data services (which is safcom's supposed biggest angle at the moment). Time will tell! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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wait, someone confirm whether across network calls are 3 bob as am thinking some people misread that part of the advert
Dennis confirmed ........why so many Doubting Thomas here? On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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As always, postpaid customers get shafted.... On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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Phares am fine on P.Paid also ....what's up? On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
As always, postpaid customers get shafted....
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
As always, postpaid customers get shafted....
Postpaid are included, but I wonder how they will make their money, given that this is less than the termination fee Queen Bee (and probably others) charges, or am I dreaming?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
@Wash. The model here is based on increasing call volume within the network and using ON-NET income to discount cross network calls. Safaricom has executed that with excellence the main idea here is to increase Minutes of Use within the network as much as possible. With better network coverage more people join the network without necessarily relinquishing their Safaricom, Orange or Yu lines. It's always going to be a voice business first then value adds later. Kiania On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
As always, postpaid customers get shafted....
Postpaid are included, but I wonder how they will make their money, given that this is less than the termination fee Queen Bee (and probably others) charges, or am I dreaming??
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@Wash...as someone said before they will go at a loss in the short term but that is most likely in their marketing budget! [?] This time round Safaricom has to reply. It can no longer behave like the behemoth it has always portrayed itself to be. I can imagine what will happen - take me for example...I have a smartphone and a kinda cheap phone. You can guess all along which one has had the green sim card. It seems I'll just use the green sim for money transfers until the Queen Bee makes a better statement! @David...that's why Safaricom cannot afford to be reluctant in the face of all this - voice is their biggest revenue earner! Like wolves hunting...one makes the direct attack while others flank the prey on either side. Methinks Peter's assessment is spot on. @Peter...maybe we should call on Paul to predict for us? :)
My mum, a safcon diehard fan, just got herself a zain line over the 'jiconnect' craze....its officially onn! Zain's achille's heel is its unpopularity when it comes to its Zap services otherwise it might have a shot at competing with Safaricom. Revenues i would expect should flow in mostly from Zap and Zain Access data service.....so, the more people hooked to the service the better, might even mitigate their costs accross networks. Personally, i still prefer Zain :) On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
As always, postpaid customers get shafted....
Postpaid are included, but I wonder how they will make their money, given that this is less than the termination fee Queen Bee (and probably others) charges, or am I dreaming??
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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This war is great and a benefit to all mobile users !!! As for why some of us are bothered with Advertisements tactics...I def don't understand at all READ <Slogan - Green is not always the better option> This def cannot be proved in court to be XXXXXXX ...let us all just enjoy the benefits !!! On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Eva Kimathi <evakimathi@gmail.com> wrote:
My mum, a safcon diehard fan, just got herself a zain line over the 'jiconnect' craze....its officially onn!
Zain's achille's heel is its unpopularity when it comes to its Zap services otherwise it might have a shot at competing with Safaricom. Revenues i would expect should flow in mostly from Zap and Zain Access data service.....so, the more people hooked to the service the better, might even mitigate their costs accross networks.
Personally, i still prefer Zain :)
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
As always, postpaid customers get shafted....
Postpaid are included, but I wonder how they will make their money, given that this is less than the termination fee Queen Bee (and probably others) charges, or am I dreaming??
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Then they will re-brand to some "octopus wireless" and people will forget about these "zain tariffs". Anyway, who subscribes to these tariffs these days? Aren't these "tariffs" a mousetrap to unsuspecting consumers, Zain is notorious for these gimmicks only to start milking you dry when they discontinue without notice. By the way, I still have my Kencell line circa 2001. /.0721 58 6109// /.0733 91 1199// On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
This war is great and a benefit to all mobile users !!!
As for why some of us are bothered with Advertisements tactics...I def don't understand at all
READ <Slogan - Green is not always the better option>
This def cannot be proved in court to be XXXXXXX ...let us all just enjoy the benefits !!!
WOW, This is Hate Speech goin on here! Am sure Safcom will come up with something fancy but guarantees them revenues, maybe unlimited calls for 100/= with the cash being deducted whether used or not. Please CCK bring on another Mobile Operator...I want to be paid to make calls. On 18 August 2010 13:02, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Then they will re-brand to some "octopus wireless" and people will forget about these "zain tariffs". Anyway, who subscribes to these tariffs these days? Aren't these "tariffs" a mousetrap to unsuspecting consumers, Zain is notorious for these gimmicks only to start milking you dry when they discontinue without notice.
By the way, I still have my Kencell line circa 2001.
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
This war is great and a benefit to all mobile users !!!
As for why some of us are bothered with Advertisements tactics...I def don't understand at all
READ <Slogan - Green is not always the better option>
This def cannot be proved in court to be XXXXXXX ...let us all just enjoy the benefits !!!
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Peter if you have had it that long then its been in USE !!! just like mine.....lol On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
WOW, This is Hate Speech goin on here! Am sure Safcom will come up with something fancy but guarantees them revenues, maybe unlimited calls for 100/= with the cash being deducted whether used or not.
Please CCK bring on another Mobile Operator...I want to be paid to make calls.
On 18 August 2010 13:02, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Then they will re-brand to some "octopus wireless" and people will forget about these "zain tariffs". Anyway, who subscribes to these tariffs these days? Aren't these "tariffs" a mousetrap to unsuspecting consumers, Zain is notorious for these gimmicks only to start milking you dry when they discontinue without notice.
By the way, I still have my Kencell line circa 2001.
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
This war is great and a benefit to all mobile users !!!
As for why some of us are bothered with Advertisements tactics...I def don't understand at all
READ <Slogan - Green is not always the better option>
This def cannot be proved in court to be XXXXXXX ...let us all just enjoy the benefits !!!
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Green —adj. 1. of the colour between blue and yellow in the spectrum; 2. inexperienced, gullible. 3. a (of the complexion) pale, sickly-hued. b jealous, envious. etc 'Going green is not always the better option!' is not an attack on Safcom but just a 'clever' wordplay. On 8/18/10, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter if you have had it that long then its been in USE !!! just like mine.....lol
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
WOW, This is Hate Speech goin on here! Am sure Safcom will come up with something fancy but guarantees them revenues, maybe unlimited calls for 100/= with the cash being deducted whether used or not.
Please CCK bring on another Mobile Operator...I want to be paid to make calls.
On 18 August 2010 13:02, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Then they will re-brand to some "octopus wireless" and people will forget about these "zain tariffs". Anyway, who subscribes to these tariffs these days? Aren't these "tariffs" a mousetrap to unsuspecting consumers, Zain is notorious for these gimmicks only to start milking you dry when they discontinue without notice.
By the way, I still have my Kencell line circa 2001.
/.0721 58 6109// /.0733 91 1199//
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
This war is great and a benefit to all mobile users !!!
As for why some of us are bothered with Advertisements tactics...I def don't understand at all
READ <Slogan - Green is not always the better option>
This def cannot be proved in court to be XXXXXXX ...let us all just enjoy the benefits !!!
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Just received this message "Call for Kshs 3 and SMS for 1 to any network in Kenya 24/7 . No terms and conditions. its a permanent offer, not a promotion. Zain A Wonderful World" On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Ken Teyie <kenteyie@gmail.com> wrote:
Green —adj.
1. of the colour between blue and yellow in the spectrum;
2. inexperienced, gullible.
3. a (of the complexion) pale, sickly-hued. b jealous, envious. etc
'Going green is not always the better option!' is not an attack on Safcom but just a 'clever' wordplay.
On 8/18/10, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter if you have had it that long then its been in USE !!! just like mine.....lol
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
WOW, This is Hate Speech goin on here! Am sure Safcom will come up with something fancy but guarantees them revenues, maybe unlimited calls for 100/= with the cash being deducted whether used or not.
Please CCK bring on another Mobile Operator...I want to be paid to make calls.
On 18 August 2010 13:02, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Then they will re-brand to some "octopus wireless" and people will
forget
about these "zain tariffs". Anyway, who subscribes to these tariffs these days? Aren't these "tariffs" a mousetrap to unsuspecting consumers, Zain is notorious for these gimmicks only to start milking you dry when they discontinue without notice.
By the way, I still have my Kencell line circa 2001.
/.0721 58 6109// /.0733 91 1199//
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
This war is great and a benefit to all mobile users !!!
As for why some of us are bothered with Advertisements tactics...I def don't understand at all
READ <Slogan - Green is not always the better option>
This def cannot be proved in court to be XXXXXXX ...let us all just enjoy the benefits !!!
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As always, Postpaid subscribers will still be shafted. They will be required pay (in addition to the 3 & 1bob) an extra 10 and 16 percent in duty. (Excise Duty and VAT respectively) On 8/18/10, margaret wanjiru <mwanjiru07@gmail.com> wrote:
Just received this message
"Call for Kshs 3 and SMS for 1 to any network in Kenya 24/7 . No terms and conditions. its a permanent offer, not a promotion. Zain A Wonderful World"
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Ken Teyie <kenteyie@gmail.com> wrote:
Green —adj.
1. of the colour between blue and yellow in the spectrum;
2. inexperienced, gullible.
3. a (of the complexion) pale, sickly-hued. b jealous, envious. etc
'Going green is not always the better option!' is not an attack on Safcom but just a 'clever' wordplay.
On 8/18/10, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter if you have had it that long then its been in USE !!! just like mine.....lol
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
WOW, This is Hate Speech goin on here! Am sure Safcom will come up with something fancy but guarantees them revenues, maybe unlimited calls for 100/= with the cash being deducted whether used or not.
Please CCK bring on another Mobile Operator...I want to be paid to make calls.
On 18 August 2010 13:02, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Then they will re-brand to some "octopus wireless" and people will
forget
about these "zain tariffs". Anyway, who subscribes to these tariffs these days? Aren't these "tariffs" a mousetrap to unsuspecting consumers, Zain is notorious for these gimmicks only to start milking you dry when they discontinue without notice.
By the way, I still have my Kencell line circa 2001.
/.0721 58 6109// /.0733 91 1199//
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
This war is great and a benefit to all mobile users !!!
As for why some of us are bothered with Advertisements tactics...I def don't understand at all
READ <Slogan - Green is not always the better option>
This def cannot be proved in court to be XXXXXXX ...let us all just enjoy the benefits !!!
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Off the rumour mill Safcom managers got into a crisis meeting around 1:00pm, lets see what they come out with On 8/18/10, Ken Teyie <kenteyie@gmail.com> wrote:
As always, Postpaid subscribers will still be shafted. They will be required pay (in addition to the 3 & 1bob) an extra 10 and 16 percent in duty. (Excise Duty and VAT respectively)
On 8/18/10, margaret wanjiru <mwanjiru07@gmail.com> wrote:
Just received this message
"Call for Kshs 3 and SMS for 1 to any network in Kenya 24/7 . No terms and conditions. its a permanent offer, not a promotion. Zain A Wonderful World"
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Ken Teyie <kenteyie@gmail.com> wrote:
Green —adj.
1. of the colour between blue and yellow in the spectrum;
2. inexperienced, gullible.
3. a (of the complexion) pale, sickly-hued. b jealous, envious. etc
'Going green is not always the better option!' is not an attack on Safcom but just a 'clever' wordplay.
On 8/18/10, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter if you have had it that long then its been in USE !!! just like mine.....lol
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
WOW, This is Hate Speech goin on here! Am sure Safcom will come up with something fancy but guarantees them revenues, maybe unlimited calls for 100/= with the cash being deducted whether used or not.
Please CCK bring on another Mobile Operator...I want to be paid to make calls.
On 18 August 2010 13:02, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Then they will re-brand to some "octopus wireless" and people will
forget
about these "zain tariffs". Anyway, who subscribes to these tariffs these days? Aren't these "tariffs" a mousetrap to unsuspecting consumers, Zain is notorious for these gimmicks only to start milking you dry when they discontinue without notice.
By the way, I still have my Kencell line circa 2001.
/.0721 58 6109// /.0733 91 1199//
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: > > This war is great and a benefit to all mobile users !!! > > As for why some of us are bothered with Advertisements tactics...I > def > don't understand at all > > READ > <Slogan - Green is not always the better option> > > This def cannot be proved in court to be XXXXXXX ...let us all just > enjoy the benefits !!! >
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My friend. What else do you need. 3 bob across all networks. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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Number portability will be the killer blow to safcon,am really waiting On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
Kumbe these Airtel guys really meant it...I guess we'll have to wait and see whether price changes can still change market dynamics significantly compared to the much-touted QoS and data services (which is safcom's supposed biggest angle at the moment). Time will tell! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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@martin I can assure you where safcom has guys by the noose is not really number portability or data services (internet/vpn etc), but the financial services - mpesa/mkesho etc. Whoever comes up with cross-network money transfer might just have blown an EMP in the skies over Nairobi...at least in safcom's view :)
well with number portability I believe will have the flexibility to switch from one net work to another depending on what tariff impresses you most,currently you either have dual sim card or two phones.For instance with such an offer with ZAIN all would have switched to zain by now without going MTEJA on their original network benefiting on zain on (MO). so am still convinced its too bad for safcon.actually its game shot. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
@martin I can assure you where safcom has guys by the noose is not really number portability or data services (internet/vpn etc), but the financial services - mpesa/mkesho etc.
Whoever comes up with cross-network money transfer might just have blown an EMP in the skies over Nairobi...at least in safcom's view :)
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The pundits have spoken! I'll just make myself a pot of coffee, sit back and watch the drama unfold... [?]
well if its any help @haggai, im planning to make a bonfire of my million safaricom lines. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
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What is the obsession with condemning Safaricom to oblivion, if we are not happy why don't we go for other operators and they are many. Yu for instance allows you to call to any network for KES 6 what is Safaricom's crime? Bewildered Kiania On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:20 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
well if its any help @haggai, im planning to make a bonfire of my million safaricom lines.
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Maybe they are relying on the anticipated fall of internetwork charges Either way this could be the rise or fall of Zain(nothing in between). But am personally going for a zain line RIGHT NOW
Interconnect rates are currently 4.42 + 26% TAX. That means for every call (Zain - other network), Zain will be paying an approx amount of 5.57 per call, while charging the customer 3 bob. Business wise, they will make losses per interconnect call. I think they hope that when the masses move to Zain (as they surely will), they will also be calling each other on Zain. I wouldnt call it sustainable, but then, I may be wrong. The big winner of this will be safaricom. Also, if Zain has negotiated lower rates that 4.42 with the other networks, then the above does not necessarily hold true Regards, Tito
* * *2010/8/18 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> *
*Interconnect rates are currently 4.42 + 26% TAX. That means for every call (Zain - other network), Zain will be paying an approx amount of 5.57 per call, while charging the customer 3 bob.
Business wise, they will make losses per interconnect call. I think they hope that when the masses move to Zain (as they surely will), they will also be calling each other on Zain. I wouldnt call it sustainable, but then, I may be wrong.
The big winner of this will be safaricom.**
Also, if Zain has negotiated lower rates that 4.42 with the other networks, then the above does not necessarily hold true
*
* * Looks like Zain got timely info on the new interconnection fee and chose to leverage on it, according to the report below. http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/International/Zain-Kenya-lowers-call-rat...
And..... If Safcom matches Zain's offer soon, no one will move and Zain will be doomed right? Too risky.
*
* *2010/8/18 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> *
*Interconnect rates are currently 4.42 + 26% TAX. That means for every call (Zain - other network), Zain will be paying an approx amount of 5.57 per call, while charging the customer 3 bob.
Business wise, they will make losses per interconnect call. I think they hope that when the masses move to Zain (as they surely will), they will also be calling each other on Zain. I wouldnt call it sustainable, but then, I may be wrong.
The big winner of this will be safaricom.**
Also, if Zain has negotiated lower rates that 4.42 with the other networks, then the above does not necessarily hold true
*
* * Looks like Zain got timely info on the new interconnection fee and chose to leverage on it, according to the report below.
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that mister sospeter is correct, but that will only be after a considerable number of guys have moved. Me thoughts safcom is calling bluff on airtel at the moment. :0-) On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:55 PM, <sospeter@elimu.co.ke> wrote:
And.....
If Safcom matches Zain's offer soon, no one will move and Zain will be doomed right?
Too risky.
*
* *2010/8/18 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> *
*Interconnect rates are currently 4.42 + 26% TAX. That means for every call (Zain - other network), Zain will be paying an approx amount of 5.57 per call, while charging the customer 3 bob.
Business wise, they will make losses per interconnect call. I think they hope that when the masses move to Zain (as they surely will), they will also be calling each other on Zain. I wouldnt call it sustainable, but then, I may be wrong.
The big winner of this will be safaricom.**
Also, if Zain has negotiated lower rates that 4.42 with the other networks, then the above does not necessarily hold true
*
* * Looks like Zain got timely info on the new interconnection fee and chose to leverage on it, according to the report below.
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Did i miss the circular on their 3G network? Me thoughted it was supposed to go live in July? And the way i moved across in June so the good tidings find me there? On 8/18/10, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
that mister sospeter is correct, but that will only be after a considerable number of guys have moved. Me thoughts safcom is calling bluff on airtel at the moment. :0-)
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:55 PM, <sospeter@elimu.co.ke> wrote:
And.....
If Safcom matches Zain's offer soon, no one will move and Zain will be doomed right?
Too risky.
*
* *2010/8/18 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> *
*Interconnect rates are currently 4.42 + 26% TAX. That means for every call (Zain - other network), Zain will be paying an approx amount of 5.57 per call, while charging the customer 3 bob.
Business wise, they will make losses per interconnect call. I think they hope that when the masses move to Zain (as they surely will), they will also be calling each other on Zain. I wouldnt call it sustainable, but then, I may be wrong.
The big winner of this will be safaricom.**
Also, if Zain has negotiated lower rates that 4.42 with the other networks, then the above does not necessarily hold true
*
* * Looks like Zain got timely info on the new interconnection fee and chose to leverage on it, according to the report below.
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Let them fight! As long as I pay less and keep in touch. The customer wins! On 8/18/10, Wanjiru Njoroge <wanjirunjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
Did i miss the circular on their 3G network? Me thoughted it was supposed to go live in July? And the way i moved across in June so the good tidings find me there?
On 8/18/10, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
that mister sospeter is correct, but that will only be after a considerable number of guys have moved. Me thoughts safcom is calling bluff on airtel at the moment. :0-)
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:55 PM, <sospeter@elimu.co.ke> wrote:
And.....
If Safcom matches Zain's offer soon, no one will move and Zain will be doomed right?
Too risky.
*
* *2010/8/18 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> *
*Interconnect rates are currently 4.42 + 26% TAX. That means for every call (Zain - other network), Zain will be paying an approx amount of 5.57 per call, while charging the customer 3 bob.
Business wise, they will make losses per interconnect call. I think they hope that when the masses move to Zain (as they surely will), they will also be calling each other on Zain. I wouldnt call it sustainable, but then, I may be wrong.
The big winner of this will be safaricom.**
Also, if Zain has negotiated lower rates that 4.42 with the other networks, then the above does not necessarily hold true
*
* * Looks like Zain got timely info on the new interconnection fee and chose to leverage on it, according to the report below.
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Turns out that Airtel will not have to subsidize cross network calls, since the interconnection rate was reduced to KES 2 per minute. I watched Michel Joseph yesterday on tele yesterday and I have never seen him that rattled. If interconnect is 2 bob why in the world was safcom charging 12? Now that makes me mad. Kiania D. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> wrote:
Let them fight! As long as I pay less and keep in touch. The customer wins!
On 8/18/10, Wanjiru Njoroge <wanjirunjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
Did i miss the circular on their 3G network? Me thoughted it was supposed to go live in July? And the way i moved across in June so the good tidings find me there?
On 8/18/10, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
that mister sospeter is correct, but that will only be after a considerable number of guys have moved. Me thoughts safcom is calling bluff on airtel at the moment. :0-)
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:55 PM, <sospeter@elimu.co.ke> wrote:
And.....
If Safcom matches Zain's offer soon, no one will move and Zain will be doomed right?
Too risky.
*
* *2010/8/18 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> *
*Interconnect rates are currently 4.42 + 26% TAX. That means for every call (Zain - other network), Zain will be paying an approx amount of 5.57 per call, while charging the customer 3 bob.
Business wise, they will make losses per interconnect call. I think they hope that when the masses move to Zain (as they surely will), they will also be calling each other on Zain. I wouldnt call it sustainable, but then, I may be wrong.
The big winner of this will be safaricom.**
Also, if Zain has negotiated lower rates that 4.42 with the other networks, then the above does not necessarily hold true
*
* * Looks like Zain got timely info on the new interconnection fee and chose to leverage on it, according to the report below.
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Zain at the moment is actually paying Safaricom for every call that is made from Zain to Safaricom. The new rates set in in September, till then the rate is about 5 bob which is higher than the zain - Saf rate, so Safa must be wondering what the hell Zain is trying out
On 19 August 2010 08:21, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Turns out that Airtel will not have to subsidize cross network calls, since the interconnection rate was reduced to KES 2 per minute. I watched Michel Joseph yesterday on tele yesterday and I have never seen him that rattled.
If interconnect is 2 bob why in the world was safcom charging 12? Now that makes me mad.
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He's probably one of the few CEOs to go home enraged. Most of them smile all the way to the bank!! The common man must be treated like a person, not a shopping mall!
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> wrote:
Let them fight! As long as I pay less and keep in touch. The customer wins!
On 8/18/10, Wanjiru Njoroge <wanjirunjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
Did i miss the circular on their 3G network? Me thoughted it was supposed to go live in July? And the way i moved across in June so the good tidings find me there?
On 8/18/10, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
that mister sospeter is correct, but that will only be after a considerable number of guys have moved. Me thoughts safcom is calling bluff on airtel at the moment. :0-)
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:55 PM, <sospeter@elimu.co.ke> wrote:
And.....
If Safcom matches Zain's offer soon, no one will move and Zain will be doomed right?
Too risky.
*
* *2010/8/18 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> * > > *Interconnect rates are currently 4.42 + 26% TAX. That means for every > call (Zain - other network), Zain will be paying an approx amount of > 5.57 > per call, while charging the customer 3 bob. > > Business wise, they will make losses per interconnect call. I think > they > hope that when the masses move to Zain (as they surely will), they will > also > be calling each other on Zain. I wouldnt call it sustainable, but then, > I > may be wrong. > > The big winner of this will be safaricom.** > > Also, if Zain has negotiated lower rates that 4.42 with the other > networks, > then the above does not necessarily hold true > > *
* * Looks like Zain got timely info on the new interconnection fee and chose to leverage on it, according to the report below.
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mj so it coming thats why he has to leave in hurry and leave a legacy.."back in my days I did".its clear they have not been fair and I thank God safcon has ran out of tricks to milk us with hidden costs " conditions apply ". Zain Thanks big time,lets see what YOU will DO. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On 19 August 2010 08:21, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Turns out that Airtel will not have to subsidize cross network calls, since the interconnection rate was reduced to KES 2 per minute. I watched Michel Joseph yesterday on tele yesterday and I have never seen him that rattled.
If interconnect is 2 bob why in the world was safcom charging 12? Now that makes me mad.
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He's probably one of the few CEOs to go home enraged. Most of them smile all the way to the bank!!
The common man must be treated like a person, not a shopping mall!
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> wrote:
Let them fight! As long as I pay less and keep in touch. The customer wins!
On 8/18/10, Wanjiru Njoroge <wanjirunjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
Did i miss the circular on their 3G network? Me thoughted it was supposed to go live in July? And the way i moved across in June so the good tidings find me there?
On 8/18/10, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
that mister sospeter is correct, but that will only be after a considerable number of guys have moved. Me thoughts safcom is calling bluff on airtel at the moment. :0-)
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:55 PM, <sospeter@elimu.co.ke> wrote:
And.....
If Safcom matches Zain's offer soon, no one will move and Zain will be doomed right?
Too risky.
> * > > * > *2010/8/18 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> > * >> >> *Interconnect rates are currently 4.42 + 26% TAX. That means for every >> call (Zain - other network), Zain will be paying an approx amount of >> 5.57 >> per call, while charging the customer 3 bob. >> >> Business wise, they will make losses per interconnect call. I think >> they >> hope that when the masses move to Zain (as they surely will), they will >> also >> be calling each other on Zain. I wouldnt call it sustainable, but then, >> I >> may be wrong. >> >> The big winner of this will be safaricom.** >> >> Also, if Zain has negotiated lower rates that 4.42 with the other >> networks, >> then the above does not necessarily hold true >> >> * > > * * > Looks like Zain got timely info on the new interconnection fee and chose > to > leverage on it, according to the report below. > > http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/International/Zain-Kenya-lowers-call-rat... > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Feels like a David vs Goliath duel...Zain is on point ....Bahrti has the edge ... experience with similar market -India....I am relishing this duel ..watch this space... From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Tony Likhanga Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:23 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] inZain tarrif 2010/8/18 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com<mailto:titonjoroge@gmail.com>> Interconnect rates are currently 4.42 + 26% TAX. That means for every call (Zain - other network), Zain will be paying an approx amount of 5.57 per call, while charging the customer 3 bob. Business wise, they will make losses per interconnect call. I think they hope that when the masses move to Zain (as they surely will), they will also be calling each other on Zain. I wouldnt call it sustainable, but then, I may be wrong. The big winner of this will be safaricom. Also, if Zain has negotiated lower rates that 4.42 with the other networks, then the above does not necessarily hold true Looks like Zain got timely info on the new interconnection fee and chose to leverage on it, according to the report below. http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/International/Zain-Kenya-lowers-call-rat... ________________________________ Strathmore University provides all-round education in an atmosphere of freedom and responsibility. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for use by the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete this email and/or any files attached to it from your computer. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Strathmore University. The University accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damages incurred, or suffered, resulting, or arising, from the use of this email and/or its attachments. The University warrants neither the integrity of the e-mail nor its freedom from errors, viruses, interception or any other form of interference. ............................................................................ Website: www.strathmore.edu
One thing that waits to be seen is the actual number of guys who will Vuka because of the price diff. In my view the most important thing that needs to be done is Number portability then we just Vuka to whomever we so wish to. As it stands i may be using my safcom line less but would not want to loose it. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Pius Walela <PWalela@strathmore.edu> wrote:
Feels like a David vs Goliath duel…Zain is on point ….Bahrti has the edge … experience with similar market –India….I am relishing this duel ..watch this space…
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*Interconnect rates are currently 4.42 + 26% TAX. That means for every call (Zain - other network), Zain will be paying an approx amount of 5.57 per call, while charging the customer 3 bob.
Business wise, they will make losses per interconnect call. I think they hope that when the masses move to Zain (as they surely will), they will also be calling each other on Zain. I wouldnt call it sustainable, but then, I may be wrong.
The big winner of this will be safaricom.
Also, if Zain has negotiated lower rates that 4.42 with the other networks, then the above does not necessarily hold true*
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Hehehe I'm still sipping on my coffee...I wonder what will happen when interconnect fees are scrapped in the next few years, since it seems CCK is following the recommendations of the UK consultancy they hired. My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity. Anybody noticed Zain has been kinda loaded since yesterday...a few times when I try calling it says it's congested, but my call still goes through and is not dropped. They better upgrade!
Haggai, Change your "coffee" peddler ;-), I don't see interconnection fee being scrapped all together, it'll remain but very nominal. Zain has lots of head room before they get to congestion. Kiania D. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehehe I'm still sipping on my coffee...I wonder what will happen when interconnect fees are scrapped in the next few years, since it seems CCK is following the recommendations of the UK consultancy they hired. My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity.
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GUYS!!! Have you noticed that SAFCOM and TELKOM have blocked all the calls from ZAIN ????????????????????? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:57 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Haggai,
Change your "coffee" peddler ;-), I don't see interconnection fee being scrapped all together, it'll remain but very nominal.
Zain has lots of head room before they get to congestion.
Kiania D.
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Hehehe I'm still sipping on my coffee...I wonder what will happen when interconnect fees are scrapped in the next few years, since it seems CCK is following the recommendations of the UK consultancy they hired. My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity.
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Ati M.J called Zain to protest the price war. The Zain guys were left laughing because he used a Zain line...LOL... On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
GUYS!!! Have you noticed that SAFCOM and TELKOM have blocked all the calls from ZAIN ?????????????????????
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:57 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Haggai,
Change your "coffee" peddler ;-), I don't see interconnection fee being scrapped all together, it'll remain but very nominal.
Zain has lots of head room before they get to congestion.
Kiania D.
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Hehehe I'm still sipping on my coffee...I wonder what will happen when interconnect fees are scrapped in the next few years, since it seems CCK is following the recommendations of the UK consultancy they hired. My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity.
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Ati M.J called Zain to protest the price war. The Zain guys were left laughing because he used a Zain line...LOL...
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@Alvin...wweeeeeehhhhhhhhh!!! hahahaha....stop inciting!hahahaha...i just called myself from zain to safcom and it got through!hahaha..ama the safcom chaps know my zain line so allow my safcom line to call it! Have a great day! Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
GUYS!!! Have you noticed that SAFCOM and TELKOM have blocked all the calls from ZAIN ?????????????????????
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:57 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Haggai,
Change your "coffee" peddler ;-), I don't see interconnection fee being scrapped all together, it'll remain but very nominal.
Zain has lots of head room before they get to congestion.
Kiania D.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehehe I'm still sipping on my coffee...I wonder what will happen when interconnect fees are scrapped in the next few years, since it seems CCK is following the recommendations of the UK consultancy they hired. My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity.
Anybody noticed Zain has been kinda loaded since yesterday...a few times when I try calling it says it's congested, but my call still goes through and is not dropped. They better upgrade! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH....what on earth is this M.J using Zaing line ...this is really making my day ...... On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Amarjit Labhuram < amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alvin...wweeeeeehhhhhhhhh!!! hahahaha....stop inciting!hahahaha...i just called myself from zain to safcom and it got through!hahaha..ama the safcom chaps know my zain line so allow my safcom line to call it!
Have a great day!
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
GUYS!!! Have you noticed that SAFCOM and TELKOM have blocked all the calls from ZAIN ?????????????????????
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:57 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Haggai,
Change your "coffee" peddler ;-), I don't see interconnection fee being scrapped all together, it'll remain but very nominal.
Zain has lots of head room before they get to congestion.
Kiania D.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehehe I'm still sipping on my coffee...I wonder what will happen when interconnect fees are scrapped in the next few years, since it seems CCK is following the recommendations of the UK consultancy they hired. My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity.
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Alvin, maybe that's the issue...as I get that prompt "Your call cannot be completed..." sometimes when i'm calling from zain to safaricom. Zain to Zain is perfect. Haven't tried Telkom though...to Yu its ok... @Ruth...I'll drink another fresh brew to that [?]
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
GUYS!!! Have you noticed that SAFCOM and TELKOM have blocked all the calls from ZAIN ?????????????????????
@Alvin, Don't say that!! You mean the real war has started? Can't wait to see Zain and MJ washing their linen in public:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
@washington ......a Phone with 4 sim cards!!!!!!!!!! On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
GUYS!!! Have you noticed that SAFCOM and TELKOM have blocked all the calls from ZAIN ?????????????????????
@Alvin,
Don't say that!! You mean the real war has started? Can't wait to see Zain and MJ washing their linen in public:-)
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I agree with Haggai on that "My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity. " On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
Hehehe I'm still sipping on my coffee...I wonder what will happen when interconnect fees are scrapped in the next few years, since it seems CCK is following the recommendations of the UK consultancy they hired. My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity.
Anybody noticed Zain has been kinda loaded since yesterday...a few times when I try calling it says it's congested, but my call still goes through and is not dropped. They better upgrade!
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@RUTH...hhahahahahha...M.J. amevuka! hahaha! Have a great day! Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Eva Kimathi <evakimathi@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Haggai on that "My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity. "
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
Hehehe I'm still sipping on my coffee...I wonder what will happen when interconnect fees are scrapped in the next few years, since it seems CCK is following the recommendations of the UK consultancy they hired. My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity.
Anybody noticed Zain has been kinda loaded since yesterday...a few times when I try calling it says it's congested, but my call still goes through and is not dropped. They better upgrade!
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Wash am serious ...alot of dropped calls from the two.....and from records its from 6pm last evening... On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Amarjit Labhuram <amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com> wrote:
@RUTH...hhahahahahha...M.J. amevuka! hahaha! Have a great day!
Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Eva Kimathi <evakimathi@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Haggai on that "My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity. "
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehehe I'm still sipping on my coffee...I wonder what will happen when interconnect fees are scrapped in the next few years, since it seems CCK is following the recommendations of the UK consultancy they hired. My bet is at that point price will not matter anymore, but the QoS and service diversity.
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Me thinks its Kenyans unique calling habits ... scratch card ya 100 then *100#, ... talk all month tariff. Zain = 1.8 Million Kenyans, Safaricom = 15 Million Kenyans+Foreigners. If Zain improves to 6 or 7 Million Kenyans+foreigners, the QoS will drop below Safaricoms and the migration to Westlands from Mombasa Rd will begin. And thats why I like watching the wildebeest migrate (and stampede). /.0721586109// Shhhhh. I hear Kencell used old transmission equipment from Eriksson. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
Wash am serious ...alot of dropped calls from the two.....and from records its from 6pm last evening...
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Amarjit Labhuram <amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com> wrote:
@RUTH...hhahahahahha...M.J. amevuka! hahaha! Have a great day!
Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram.
@Peter...not Alcatel? Correct me if I'm wrong...
They left Ericssson quite a while back in Kenya On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com> wrote:
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Nope, kencell used alcatel... Celtel, Zain used ericsson... Saa hii, i dont know !
Saa hii they on Siemens stuff... On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Nope, kencell used alcatel...
Celtel, Zain used ericsson...
Saa hii, i dont know !
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They used recylced radio equipment from all of the above, each move proving fatal, now if only 1/8 of Safaricom's customer migrate, imagine what will happen? It will be apocalyptic! And then they'll rebrand and people will have a hard time remembering their special offers. Let Queen bee reign. /.0721586109// On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
Saa hii they on Siemens stuff...
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Nope, kencell used alcatel...
Celtel, Zain used ericsson...
Saa hii, i dont know !
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They used recylced radio equipment from all of the above, each move proving fatal, now if only 1/8 of Safaricom's customer migrate, imagine what will happen? It will be apocalyptic! And then they'll rebrand and people will have a hard time remembering their special offers.
Let Queen bee reign.
/.0721586109//
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
Saa hii they on Siemens stuff...
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Nope, kencell used alcatel...
Celtel, Zain used ericsson...
Saa hii, i dont know !
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Andrew, You should not have intervened it's interesting seeing how much rumors shapes opinion without anyone bothering to verify the truth. Zain is a shared network among most vendors: - Radio: Ericsson and ALCALU (shared by regions). Transmission: Ericsson and NEC - I am certain that some Transmission equipment is NSN like ADM switches. Optimization: Motorola Core: Ericsson IN: (I have no idea) So which component are you referring to as refurbished and old? Kiania ---- On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Andrew Wafula <awafula@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as I know Zain still uses Ericsson equipment and they do have quote a bit of capacity. So Peter I think you are mistaken. ====================== Andrew Wafula Wapakala Web: www.wertsoft.com MSN: a_wafula@hotmail.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/awafula Blog: http://thewert.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================== If you have made mistakes...there is always another chance for you... you may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down. - Mary Pickford "Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss People"
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
They used recylced radio equipment from all of the above, each move proving fatal, now if only 1/8 of Safaricom's customer migrate, imagine what will happen? It will be apocalyptic! And then they'll rebrand and people will have a hard time remembering their special offers.
Let Queen bee reign.
/.0721586109//
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Saa hii they on Siemens stuff...
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Nope, kencell used alcatel...
Celtel, Zain used ericsson...
Saa hii, i dont know !
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IN:Ericsson On 19 August 2010 15:37, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Andrew,
You should not have intervened it's interesting seeing how much rumors shapes opinion without anyone bothering to verify the truth.
Zain is a shared network among most vendors: -
Radio: Ericsson and ALCALU (shared by regions). Transmission: Ericsson and NEC - I am certain that some Transmission equipment is NSN like ADM switches. Optimization: Motorola Core: Ericsson IN: (I have no idea)
So which component are you referring to as refurbished and old?
Kiania
---- On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Andrew Wafula <awafula@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as I know Zain still uses Ericsson equipment and they do have quote a bit of capacity. So Peter I think you are mistaken. ====================== Andrew Wafula Wapakala Web: www.wertsoft.com MSN: a_wafula@hotmail.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/awafula Blog: http://thewert.blogspot.com/
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
They used recylced radio equipment from all of the above, each move proving fatal, now if only 1/8 of Safaricom's customer migrate, imagine
what
will happen? It will be apocalyptic! And then they'll rebrand and people will have a hard time remembering their special offers.
Let Queen bee reign.
/.0721586109//
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Saa hii they on Siemens stuff...
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, ndungu stephen <
ndungustephen@gmail.com>
wrote:
Nope, kencell used alcatel...
Celtel, Zain used ericsson...
Saa hii, i dont know !
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Kiania your DEF right !!! Or does Peter work for SAFCOM? lol !!! On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:37 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Andrew,
You should not have intervened it's interesting seeing how much rumors shapes opinion without anyone bothering to verify the truth.
Zain is a shared network among most vendors: -
Radio: Ericsson and ALCALU (shared by regions). Transmission: Ericsson and NEC - I am certain that some Transmission equipment is NSN like ADM switches. Optimization: Motorola Core: Ericsson IN: (I have no idea)
So which component are you referring to as refurbished and old?
Kiania
---- On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Andrew Wafula <awafula@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as I know Zain still uses Ericsson equipment and they do have quote a bit of capacity. So Peter I think you are mistaken. ====================== Andrew Wafula Wapakala Web: www.wertsoft.com MSN: a_wafula@hotmail.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/awafula Blog: http://thewert.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================== If you have made mistakes...there is always another chance for you... you may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down. - Mary Pickford "Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss People"
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
They used recylced radio equipment from all of the above, each move proving fatal, now if only 1/8 of Safaricom's customer migrate, imagine what will happen? It will be apocalyptic! And then they'll rebrand and people will have a hard time remembering their special offers.
Let Queen bee reign.
/.0721586109//
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Saa hii they on Siemens stuff...
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Nope, kencell used alcatel...
Celtel, Zain used ericsson...
Saa hii, i dont know !
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<rumour>He is </rumour> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Kiania your DEF right !!! Or does Peter work for SAFCOM? lol !!!
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:37 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Andrew,
You should not have intervened it's interesting seeing how much rumors shapes opinion without anyone bothering to verify the truth.
Zain is a shared network among most vendors: -
Radio: Ericsson and ALCALU (shared by regions). Transmission: Ericsson and NEC - I am certain that some Transmission equipment is NSN like ADM switches. Optimization: Motorola Core: Ericsson IN: (I have no idea)
So which component are you referring to as refurbished and old?
Kiania
---- On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Andrew Wafula <awafula@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as I know Zain still uses Ericsson equipment and they do have quote a bit of capacity. So Peter I think you are mistaken. ====================== Andrew Wafula Wapakala Web: www.wertsoft.com MSN: a_wafula@hotmail.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/awafula Blog: http://thewert.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================== If you have made mistakes...there is always another chance for you... you may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down. - Mary Pickford "Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss People"
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
They used recylced radio equipment from all of the above, each move proving fatal, now if only 1/8 of Safaricom's customer migrate, imagine what will happen? It will be apocalyptic! And then they'll rebrand and people will have a hard time remembering their special offers.
Let Queen bee reign.
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Saa hii they on Siemens stuff...
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Nope, kencell used alcatel...
Celtel, Zain used ericsson...
Saa hii, i dont know !
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Just in - in my case that is - yu has just announced a new tariff starting kesho details still pending and so the battle continues.... On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:50 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
<rumour>He is </rumour>
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Kiania your DEF right !!! Or does Peter work for SAFCOM? lol !!!
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:37 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Andrew,
You should not have intervened it's interesting seeing how much rumors shapes opinion without anyone bothering to verify the truth.
Zain is a shared network among most vendors: -
Radio: Ericsson and ALCALU (shared by regions). Transmission: Ericsson and NEC - I am certain that some Transmission equipment is NSN like ADM switches. Optimization: Motorola Core: Ericsson IN: (I have no idea)
So which component are you referring to as refurbished and old?
Kiania
---- On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Andrew Wafula <awafula@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as I know Zain still uses Ericsson equipment and they do have quote a bit of capacity. So Peter I think you are mistaken. ====================== Andrew Wafula Wapakala Web: www.wertsoft.com MSN: a_wafula@hotmail.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/awafula Blog: http://thewert.blogspot.com/
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
They used recylced radio equipment from all of the above, each move proving fatal, now if only 1/8 of Safaricom's customer migrate,
imagine what
will happen? It will be apocalyptic! And then they'll rebrand and people will have a hard time remembering their special offers.
Let Queen bee reign.
/.0721586109//
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Saa hii they on Siemens stuff...
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, ndungu stephen <
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
Me thinks its Kenyans unique calling habits ... scratch card ya 100 then *100#, ... talk all month tariff. Zain = 1.8 Million Kenyans, Safaricom = 15 Million Kenyans+Foreigners. If Zain improves to 6 or 7 Million Kenyans+foreigners, the QoS will drop below Safaricoms and the migration to Westlands from Mombasa Rd will begin
Osotsi, Zain are also in Westlands. The war is being fought under "Kaa Ngumu"'s nose:-) That bldg in MSA Rd is a "phony" presence! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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