hehe yani its still down... lol pole On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote:
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It's not (still) down at all, but the uptimes have drastically gone down! On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Mang'oli <brayous@gmail.com> wrote:
hehe yani its still down... lol pole
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>wrote:
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WOW at last here comes the complaint I most waited. We have been having trouble with our internet and Access kenya for a while and Gosh its up its down its up its down its up and very slow. We used to cherish it but I don know what happened and the trend started after the Fiber Cut issue and the service never came back, we have tried to settle with them wapi. theirs everything is ok. So we have decided Kuhama. At least we not alone. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
It's not (still) down at all, but the uptimes have drastically gone down!
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Mang'oli <brayous@gmail.com> wrote:
hehe yani its still down... lol pole
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>wrote:
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My trace to AccessKE ventures to the internet and back. No KIXP connection? *<MY IP 197.177.100.82>$tracert 41.215.22.90* * * *Tracing route to 41.215.22.90.accesskenya.com [41.215.22.90]* *over a maximum of 30 hops:* * * * 1 * * * Request timed out.* * 2 81 ms 91 ms 96 ms 196.201.216.126* * 3 102 ms 89 ms 89 ms 196.201.216.161* * 4 228 ms 219 ms 269 ms so-4-0-2.edge1.Paris1.Level3.net[212.73.206.81] * * * * 5 * * 312 ms ae-1-51.edge4.Paris1.Level3.net[4.69.139.202] * * 6 310 ms 239 ms 238 ms 213.144.183.65* * 7 405 ms 419 ms 409 ms accesskenya.palermo7.pal.seabone.net[195.22.197 * *.133]* * 8 387 ms 419 ms 389 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com[196.207.31. * *146]* * 9 417 ms 459 ms 406 ms 196.207.31.170.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.170] * * * * 10 434 ms 389 ms 389 ms 41.215.22.90.accesskenya.com [41.215.22.90] * Trace complete. ./bernard On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
WOW at last here comes the complaint I most waited. We have been having trouble with our internet and Access kenya for a while and Gosh its up its down its up its down its up and very slow. We used to cherish it but I don know what happened and the trend started after the Fiber Cut issue and the service never came back, we have tried to settle with them wapi. theirs everything is ok. So we have decided Kuhama. At least we not alone.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
It's not (still) down at all, but the uptimes have drastically gone down!
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Mang'oli <brayous@gmail.com>wrote:
hehe yani its still down... lol pole
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>wrote:
In my view, they should close shop for good!! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Any service provider has its bad days. This is such a time for accesskenya too bad guys are never patient nor understanding. I understand there is a broadcast storm making RSTP kill most connections so users cannot authenticate and active connections get dropped. Vumilieni since if you were access Kenya you would want guys to be patient. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
My trace to AccessKE ventures to the internet and back. No KIXP connection?
*<MY IP 197.177.100.82>$tracert 41.215.22.90* * * *Tracing route to 41.215.22.90.accesskenya.com [41.215.22.90]* *over a maximum of 30 hops:* * * * 1 * * * Request timed out.* * 2 81 ms 91 ms 96 ms 196.201.216.126* * 3 102 ms 89 ms 89 ms 196.201.216.161* * 4 228 ms 219 ms 269 ms so-4-0-2.edge1.Paris1.Level3.net[212.73.206.81] * * * * 5 * * 312 ms ae-1-51.edge4.Paris1.Level3.net[4.69.139.202] * * 6 310 ms 239 ms 238 ms 213.144.183.65* * 7 405 ms 419 ms 409 ms accesskenya.palermo7.pal.seabone.net[195.22.197 * *.133]* * 8 387 ms 419 ms 389 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com[196.207.31. * *146]* * 9 417 ms 459 ms 406 ms 196.207.31.170.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.170] * * * * 10 434 ms 389 ms 389 ms 41.215.22.90.accesskenya.com[41.215.22.90] *
Trace complete.
./bernard
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
WOW at last here comes the complaint I most waited. We have been having trouble with our internet and Access kenya for a while and Gosh its up its down its up its down its up and very slow. We used to cherish it but I don know what happened and the trend started after the Fiber Cut issue and the service never came back, we have tried to settle with them wapi. theirs everything is ok. So we have decided Kuhama. At least we not alone.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
It's not (still) down at all, but the uptimes have drastically gone down!
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Mang'oli <brayous@gmail.com>wrote:
hehe yani its still down... lol pole
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>wrote:
In my view, they should close shop for good!! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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@Job, We have been patient, but patience has its limits. 3-weeks and still running, they need to call in outside help - people like John Gitau could give them some insight into what could be ailing their network! It's more like that moment when you know yo've reached your /etc and need a third eye. They could have brilliant engineers in there, but such moments when everyone has clogged eyes always surfaces and an outsider with a much clearer mind, who's not used to the environment would easily help them pinpoint the snag. I am wondering why they haven't considered this as an option. Yes, I know they'd want us to be patient, but there are places where AK is the only provider, because other providers cannot venture there, so what happens when you don't have the luxury of a redundancy?? On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
Any service provider has its bad days. This is such a time for accesskenya too bad guys are never patient nor understanding. I understand there is a broadcast storm making RSTP kill most connections so users cannot authenticate and active connections get dropped. Vumilieni since if you were access Kenya you would want guys to be patient.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
My trace to AccessKE ventures to the internet and back. No KIXP connection?
*<MY IP 197.177.100.82>$tracert 41.215.22.90* * * *Tracing route to 41.215.22.90.accesskenya.com [41.215.22.90]* *over a maximum of 30 hops:* * * * 1 * * * Request timed out.* * 2 81 ms 91 ms 96 ms 196.201.216.126* * 3 102 ms 89 ms 89 ms 196.201.216.161* * 4 228 ms 219 ms 269 ms so-4-0-2.edge1.Paris1.Level3.net[212.73.206.81] * * * * 5 * * 312 ms ae-1-51.edge4.Paris1.Level3.net[4.69.139.202] * * 6 310 ms 239 ms 238 ms 213.144.183.65* * 7 405 ms 419 ms 409 ms accesskenya.palermo7.pal.seabone.net[195.22.197 * *.133]* * 8 387 ms 419 ms 389 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com[196.207.31. * *146]* * 9 417 ms 459 ms 406 ms 196.207.31.170.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.170] * * * * 10 434 ms 389 ms 389 ms 41.215.22.90.accesskenya.com[41.215.22.90] *
Trace complete.
./bernard
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
WOW at last here comes the complaint I most waited. We have been having trouble with our internet and Access kenya for a while and Gosh its up its down its up its down its up and very slow. We used to cherish it but I don know what happened and the trend started after the Fiber Cut issue and the service never came back, we have tried to settle with them wapi. theirs everything is ok. So we have decided Kuhama. At least we not alone.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
It's not (still) down at all, but the uptimes have drastically gone down!
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Mang'oli <brayous@gmail.com>wrote:
hehe yani its still down... lol pole
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>wrote:
In my view, they should close shop for good!! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
@Odhiambo, Can you consider talking to your Account Manager at AK and the senior most level you can escalate the issue to and offer your suggestions to so that they turn into great results you expect. Sometimes most of the decision makers don't get this kind of feedback and it ends up more like empty complains at the wrong place and to the wrong group of people who are only suffering the same problem. ________________________________ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Access Kenya @Job, We have been patient, but patience has its limits. 3-weeks and still running, they need to call in outside help - people like John Gitau could give them some insight into what could be ailing their network! It's more like that moment when you know yo've reached your /etc and need a third eye. They could have brilliant engineers in there, but such moments when everyone has clogged eyes always surfaces and an outsider with a much clearer mind, who's not used to the environment would easily help them pinpoint the snag. I am wondering why they haven't considered this as an option. Yes, I know they'd want us to be patient, but there are places where AK is the only provider, because other providers cannot venture there, so what happens when you don't have the luxury of a redundancy?? On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote: Any service provider has its bad days. This is such a time for accesskenya too bad guys are never patient nor
understanding. I understand there is a broadcast storm making RSTP kill most connections so users cannot authenticate and active connections get dropped. Vumilieni since if you were access Kenya you would want guys to be patient.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
My trace to AccessKE ventures to the internet and back. No KIXP connection?
<MY IP 197.177.100.82>$tracert 41.215.22.90
Tracing route to 41.215.22.90.accesskenya.com [41.215.22.90] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out. 2 81 ms 91 ms 96 ms 196.201.216.126 3 102 ms 89 ms 89 ms 196.201.216.161 4 228 ms 219 ms 269 ms so-4-0-2.edge1.Paris1.Level3.net [212.73.206.81]
5 * * 312 ms ae-1-51.edge4.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.139.202] 6 310 ms 239 ms 238 ms 213.144.183.65 7 405 ms 419 ms 409 ms accesskenya.palermo7.pal.seabone.net [195.22.197 .133] 8 387 ms 419 ms 389 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com [196.207.31. 146] 9 417 ms 459 ms 406 ms 196.207.31.170.accesskenya.com [196.207.31.170]
10 434 ms 389 ms 389 ms 41.215.22.90.accesskenya.com [41.215.22.90]
Trace complete.
./bernard
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
WOW at last here comes the complaint I most waited. We have been having trouble with our internet and Access kenya for a while and Gosh its up its down its up its down its up and very slow. We used to cherish it but I don know what happened and the trend started after the Fiber Cut issue and the service never came back, we have tried to settle with them wapi. theirs everything is ok. So we have decided Kuhama. At least we not alone.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
It's not (still) down at all, but the uptimes have drastically gone down!
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Mang'oli <brayous@gmail.com> wrote:
hehe yani its still down... lol pole
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote:
In my view, they should close shop for good!!
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Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
@Richard, I have already done that this morning when they sent me another notification on this Core Network problem. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM, richard were <richard.were@yahoo.com>wrote:
@Odhiambo, Can you consider talking to your Account Manager at AK and the senior most level you can escalate the issue to and offer your suggestions to so that they turn into great results you expect. Sometimes most of the decision makers don't get this kind of feedback and it ends up more like empty complains at the wrong place and to the wrong group of people who are only suffering the same problem.
------------------------------ *From:* Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:13 AM *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Access Kenya
@Job,
We have been patient, but patience has its limits. 3-weeks and still running, they need to call in outside help - people like John Gitau could give them some insight into what could be ailing their network! It's more like that moment when you know yo've reached your /etc and need a third eye. They could have brilliant engineers in there, but such moments when everyone has clogged eyes always surfaces and an outsider with a much clearer mind, who's not used to the environment would easily help them pinpoint the snag. I am wondering why they haven't considered this as an option.
Yes, I know they'd want us to be patient, but there are places where AK is the only provider, because other providers cannot venture there, so what happens when you don't have the luxury of a redundancy??
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
Any service provider has its bad days. This is such a time for accesskenya too bad guys are never patient nor understanding. I understand there is a broadcast storm making RSTP kill most connections so users cannot authenticate and active connections get dropped. Vumilieni since if you were access Kenya you would want guys to be patient.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
My trace to AccessKE ventures to the internet and back. No KIXP connection?
*<MY IP 197.177.100.82>$tracert 41.215.22.90* * * *Tracing route to 41.215.22.90.accesskenya.com [41.215.22.90]* *over a maximum of 30 hops:* * * * 1 * * * Request timed out.* * 2 81 ms 91 ms 96 ms 196.201.216.126* * 3 102 ms 89 ms 89 ms 196.201.216.161* * 4 228 ms 219 ms 269 ms so-4-0-2.edge1.Paris1.Level3.net<http://so-4-0-2.edge1.paris1.level3.net/>[212.73.206.81] * * * * 5 * * 312 ms ae-1-51.edge4.Paris1.Level3.net<http://ae-1-51.edge4.paris1.level3.net/>[4.69.139.202] * * 6 310 ms 239 ms 238 ms 213.144.183.65* * 7 405 ms 419 ms 409 ms accesskenya.palermo7.pal.seabone.net[195.22.197 * *.133]* * 8 387 ms 419 ms 389 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com<http://tenge-2-1-bp_core01.accesskenya.com/>[196.207.31. * *146]* * 9 417 ms 459 ms 406 ms 196.207.31.170.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.170] * * * * 10 434 ms 389 ms 389 ms 41.215.22.90.accesskenya.com[41.215.22.90] *
Trace complete.
./bernard
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
WOW at last here comes the complaint I most waited. We have been having trouble with our internet and Access kenya for a while and Gosh its up its down its up its down its up and very slow. We used to cherish it but I don know what happened and the trend started after the Fiber Cut issue and the service never came back, we have tried to settle with them wapi. theirs everything is ok. So we have decided Kuhama. At least we not alone.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
It's not (still) down at all, but the uptimes have drastically gone down!
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Mang'oli <brayous@gmail.com> wrote:
hehe yani its still down... lol pole
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@Richard, Let me just tell you most people have tried to escalate issues to the top of the chain in AK but eventually nothing ever gets done. What is upsetting is that the service is deteriorating day by day. From last week to today, I don't think anyone at AK has had a stable connection. Worse is when you have a whole day outage like yesterday/ When you hear that 'our VLANs' has issues, then you know you are in trouble for the long haul. if last week was a 'fibre-cut', this week is 'VLAN has issues' and next week it is something else, what do you think most IT Managers will think? Incompetence. AccessKenya needs to fix these issues quickly or risk losing a lot of business.
*@Philip:* Usually when a provider says our "VLANs have issues", it translates to a problem on their switching layer (to my understanding). Most likely the last-mile trunks terminated there are flapping indicating either over-subscription or a requirement / indication to upgrade their core equipment (perhaps they have reached their end-of-life and / or Cisco SmartNet has expired). On 28 August 2012 12:20, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Richard,
Let me just tell you most people have tried to escalate issues to the top of the chain in AK but eventually nothing ever gets done.
What is upsetting is that the service is deteriorating day by day. From last week to today, I don't think anyone at AK has had a stable connection. Worse is when you have a whole day outage like yesterday/
When you hear that 'our VLANs' has issues, then you know you are in trouble for the long haul. if last week was a 'fibre-cut', this week is 'VLAN has issues' and next week it is something else, what do you think most IT Managers will think? Incompetence.
AccessKenya needs to fix these issues quickly or risk losing a lot of business.
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*@Philip:* Broadcast storms are also a possibility and Access Kenya haven't put in place storm control mechanisms to curb this... On 28 August 2012 12:20, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Richard,
Let me just tell you most people have tried to escalate issues to the top of the chain in AK but eventually nothing ever gets done.
What is upsetting is that the service is deteriorating day by day. From last week to today, I don't think anyone at AK has had a stable connection. Worse is when you have a whole day outage like yesterday/
When you hear that 'our VLANs' has issues, then you know you are in trouble for the long haul. if last week was a 'fibre-cut', this week is 'VLAN has issues' and next week it is something else, what do you think most IT Managers will think? Incompetence.
AccessKenya needs to fix these issues quickly or risk losing a lot of business.
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Anyway, lets wait and see. They are fixing these issues so hopefully their network will be stable.
100% agree as a client On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Richard,
Let me just tell you most people have tried to escalate issues to the top of the chain in AK but eventually nothing ever gets done.
What is upsetting is that the service is deteriorating day by day. From last week to today, I don't think anyone at AK has had a stable connection. Worse is when you have a whole day outage like yesterday/
When you hear that 'our VLANs' has issues, then you know you are in trouble for the long haul. if last week was a 'fibre-cut', this week is 'VLAN has issues' and next week it is something else, what do you think most IT Managers will think? Incompetence.
AccessKenya needs to fix these issues quickly or risk losing a lot of business.
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Again most people when they started offering metro Ethernet services went the "kienyeji way". Very few guys start off with scalability in mind, no plan , no documentation etc so something like this even when foreseen is left unresolved. If the issue is Vlans' related it means interesting things are happening at the core. It won't get any easier without them investing some or if they are lucky they have a responsive vendor. This is a public listed company so tough on their share prices too if this gets picked up by the media. apart from a full rebuild and mass migrations I don't see how this will be resolved. A bandaid might work but soon this issue will recur. Just bloody move. Or form a proper lobbying body, or look for one that exists to help get recompense. Again .. You get what you pay for. Move to safaricom, a bit expensive but well things work on their metro Ethernet service. Jtl is also a good option that I know works and at least has the wherewithal to work on their issues. And yes I think I see a bunch of scalable network design classes coming up. Disclaimer. I have no idea what the issue is. Like everyone else I'm just throwing words around. Hopefully someone from ak can throw in some details for us to chew on. Gitau Sent from my iPad On 28 Aug 2012, at 15:51, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote:
100% agree as a client
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: @Richard,
Let me just tell you most people have tried to escalate issues to the top of the chain in AK but eventually nothing ever gets done.
What is upsetting is that the service is deteriorating day by day. From last week to today, I don't think anyone at AK has had a stable connection. Worse is when you have a whole day outage like yesterday/
When you hear that 'our VLANs' has issues, then you know you are in trouble for the long haul. if last week was a 'fibre-cut', this week is 'VLAN has issues' and next week it is something else, what do you think most IT Managers will think? Incompetence.
AccessKenya needs to fix these issues quickly or risk losing a lot of business.
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I like your Disclaimer ________________________________ From: John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Access Kenya Again most people when they started offering metro Ethernet services went the "kienyeji way". Very few guys start off with scalability in mind, no plan , no documentation etc so something like this even when foreseen is left unresolved. If the issue is Vlans' related it means interesting things are happening at the core. It won't get any easier without them investing some or if they are lucky they have a responsive vendor. This is a public listed company so tough on their share prices too if this gets picked up by the media. apart from a full rebuild and mass migrations I don't see how this will be resolved. A bandaid might work but soon this issue will recur. Just bloody move. Or form a proper lobbying body, or look for one that exists to help get recompense. Again .. You get what you pay for. Move to safaricom, a bit expensive but well things work on their metro Ethernet service. Jtl is also a good option that I know works and at least has the wherewithal to work on their issues. And yes I think I see a bunch of scalable network design classes coming up. Disclaimer. I have no idea what the issue is. Like everyone else I'm just throwing words around. Hopefully someone from ak can throw in some details for us to chew on. Gitau Sent from my iPad On 28 Aug 2012, at 15:51, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com> wrote: 100% agree as a client
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Richard,
Let me just tell you most people have tried to escalate issues to the top of the chain in AK but eventually nothing ever gets done.
What is upsetting is that the service is deteriorating day by day. From last week to today, I don't think anyone at AK has had a stable connection. Worse is when you have a whole day outage like yesterday/
When you hear that 'our VLANs' has issues, then you know you are in trouble for the long haul. if last week was a 'fibre-cut', this week is 'VLAN has issues' and next week it is something else, what do you think most IT Managers will think? Incompetence.
AccessKenya needs to fix these issues quickly or risk losing a lot of business.
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mickey to which isp did u hama too ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey Mickey" <michaelakunga@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Monday, 27 August, 2012 7:04:45 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Access Kenya WOW at last here comes the complaint I most waited. We have been having trouble with our internet and Access kenya for a while and Gosh its up its down its up its down its up and very slow. We used to cherish it but I don know what happened and the trend started after the Fiber Cut issue and the service never came back, we have tried to settle with them wapi. theirs everything is ok. So we have decided Kuhama. At least we not alone. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com > wrote: It's not (still) down at all, but the uptimes have drastically gone down! On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Mang'oli < brayous@gmail.com > wrote: hehe yani its still down... lol pole On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Simon Wainaina < swainaina@gmail.com > wrote: In my view, they should close shop for good!! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121 / +254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- MICHAEL A. AKUNGA Cell No: (+254) ( 0) 726 174 815 E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com michaelakunga@yahoo.com Blog: http://michysoft.blogspot.com Skype: michaelakunga _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
I think JTL & Safaricom are the main beneficiaries of this exodus. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Compuline Kenya <compulinekenya@gmail.com>wrote:
mickey to which isp did u hama too
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey Mickey" <michaelakunga@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Monday, 27 August, 2012 7:04:45 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Access Kenya
WOW at last here comes the complaint I most waited. We have been having trouble with our internet and Access kenya for a while and Gosh its up its down its up its down its up and very slow. We used to cherish it but I don know what happened and the trend started after the Fiber Cut issue and the service never came back, we have tried to settle with them wapi. theirs everything is ok. So we have decided Kuhama. At least we not alone.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
It's not (still) down at all, but the uptimes have drastically gone down!
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Mang'oli < brayous@gmail.com > wrote:
hehe yani its still down... lol pole
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Simon Wainaina < swainaina@gmail.com > wrote:
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Simbanet is also a good option. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:23 PM, William Warero <wwarero@gmail.com> wrote:
I think JTL & Safaricom are the main beneficiaries of this exodus.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Compuline Kenya < compulinekenya@gmail.com> wrote:
mickey to which isp did u hama too
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey Mickey" <michaelakunga@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Monday, 27 August, 2012 7:04:45 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Access Kenya
WOW at last here comes the complaint I most waited. We have been having trouble with our internet and Access kenya for a while and Gosh its up its down its up its down its up and very slow. We used to cherish it but I don know what happened and the trend started after the Fiber Cut issue and the service never came back, we have tried to settle with them wapi. theirs everything is ok. So we have decided Kuhama. At least we not alone.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
It's not (still) down at all, but the uptimes have drastically gone down!
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Mang'oli < brayous@gmail.com > wrote:
hehe yani its still down... lol pole
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Simon Wainaina < swainaina@gmail.com > wrote:
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Safaricom and JTL On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM, charles kungu <charles.kungu@gmail.com>wrote:
Simbanet is also a good option.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:23 PM, William Warero <wwarero@gmail.com> wrote:
I think JTL & Safaricom are the main beneficiaries of this exodus.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Compuline Kenya < compulinekenya@gmail.com> wrote:
mickey to which isp did u hama too
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey Mickey" <michaelakunga@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Monday, 27 August, 2012 7:04:45 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Access Kenya
WOW at last here comes the complaint I most waited. We have been having trouble with our internet and Access kenya for a while and Gosh its up its down its up its down its up and very slow. We used to cherish it but I don know what happened and the trend started after the Fiber Cut issue and the service never came back, we have tried to settle with them wapi. theirs everything is ok. So we have decided Kuhama. At least we not alone.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com > wrote:
It's not (still) down at all, but the uptimes have drastically gone down!
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Mang'oli < brayous@gmail.com > wrote:
hehe yani its still down... lol pole
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