Re: [Skunkworks] ICT Position Manager
To be honest your questions are really interesting though you have tried to present something like an aptitude test 1. No 1..it's not a matter of preference or just a single technique that sort things out. Most of the time its a combination of techniques, policies, staff attitude, etc. 2. While anti virus is not the only network security, answering the question would in no way give any clue of a good network security expert. 3. Haha..it reminds me of a certain day when our in-house system suddenly stop showing data in all the user forms. All managers and other guys higher up there who spend more time in computers forwarding reports they never prepare and chatting were punching me with all non-sense professional jargons from linkedin in the MD's Office. I simply told them I had no time to waste with their non-sense discussion and went back to my cube. About 10 minutes later, I had a solution with a number of culprits and guess who, half of them were my catch. They had shared couples of pics from their previous, trip. They shared those photos through the main file server from an infected USB flash disk. Some pressures are non sense from lazy guys present themselves as professionals but really a bunch of bogus guys. 4. Is this a manager or a jack off trade bass ass? 5. Is also an interesting question, the no of users doesn't necessarily tell how competent one is with both ERP concepts and processes implemented by the respective ERPs. For example having 40 users( 20-sales people, 10- stores guys, 1-accounting, 1-purchasing, 1-market guy, the rest are bosses who simple look at very few reports. On top of that , what if these guys are really good, they don't need much help, in setting chat of account, costing, production etc. Re: ICT Position Manager Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS314DECB671780B39A935526EFDD0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Skunks. We have an emergency post to fill. All interested kindly send your cv offlist and answer the following questions. 1. Briefly describe and explain your most preferred technique of securing computer networks? 2. In your own opinion, where would you place an antivirus program, in a network that contains two servers and twenty workstations? 3. Tell me about an IT related decision you made recently while under intense pressure. 4. Describe a time when you had to develop and present plans that anticipated new technologies not yet in use in your workplace. How did you go about researching them and creating a case for early experimentation and/or pilot programs? 5. What kinds of ERP systems have you worked with? On average, how many people used the systems at each given day? NB: 1) Plagiarism will not be tolerated (Any detection of copy pasted answers from Google or any other source will lead to disqualification). 2) Stick to the point but provide detailed answers. Warm Regards, Owen Sakawa Tel: +254723060160 Skype: owen.sakawa
On 12 October 2016 at 23:25, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: 2. In your own opinion, where would you place an antivirus program, in a
network that contains two servers and twenty workstations?
For Windows, under C:\ Program Files or C:\Program Files (x86) For Linux, depends on distro, could be \usr\bin, \bin etc 3. Tell me about an IT related decision you made recently while under intense pressure. Just after losing Sportpesa Bet, I had to *switch on my computer(IT Related)* to do a report for Monday. Can I come for the job? Sincerely, Jared Oyier
LOL !! + 1 Alvin Ochola Sales Manager Greenline Technology Limited -ICT Solutions Cell +254 - 722 - 313923;Watsapp +254 - 722 - 313923;Skype - <alvinochola> On 13 October 2016 at 07:01, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 12 October 2016 at 23:25, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
2. In your own opinion, where would you place an antivirus program, in a
network that contains two servers and twenty workstations?
For Windows, under C:\ Program Files or C:\Program Files (x86)
For Linux, depends on distro, could be \usr\bin, \bin etc
3. Tell me about an IT related decision you made recently while under intense pressure. Just after losing Sportpesa Bet, I had to *switch on my computer(IT Related)* to do a report for Monday.
Can I come for the job?
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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There are now three people less who would quality for the position... ;-) On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Alvin Ochola via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
LOL !! + 1
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On 13 October 2016 at 07:01, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 12 October 2016 at 23:25, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
2. In your own opinion, where would you place an antivirus program, in a
network that contains two servers and twenty workstations?
For Windows, under C:\ Program Files or C:\Program Files (x86)
For Linux, depends on distro, could be \usr\bin, \bin etc
3. Tell me about an IT related decision you made recently while under intense pressure. Just after losing Sportpesa Bet, I had to *switch on my computer(IT Related)* to do a report for Monday.
Can I come for the job?
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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Haha...Lol. Interview should be a 2 communication. Not a Master- slave affair. It's much risky and tricky trying to answer a wrong crafted question, just to appease those are in a driver seat. Wrong questions will always bring wrong expectations and eventual misunderstandings. On Oct 13, 2016 7:58 AM, "Peter Karunyu" <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
There are now three people less who would quality for the position... ;-)
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Alvin Ochola via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
LOL !! + 1
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On 13 October 2016 at 07:01, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 12 October 2016 at 23:25, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
2. In your own opinion, where would you place an antivirus program, in a
network that contains two servers and twenty workstations?
For Windows, under C:\ Program Files or C:\Program Files (x86)
For Linux, depends on distro, could be \usr\bin, \bin etc
3. Tell me about an IT related decision you made recently while under intense pressure. Just after losing Sportpesa Bet, I had to *switch on my computer(IT Related)* to do a report for Monday.
Can I come for the job?
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud. On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
To be honest your questions are really interesting though you have tried to present something like an aptitude test
1. No 1..it's not a matter of preference or just a single technique that sort things out. Most of the time its a combination of techniques, policies, staff attitude, etc.
2. While anti virus is not the only network security, answering the question would in no way give any clue of a good network security expert.
3. Haha..it reminds me of a certain day when our in-house system suddenly stop showing data in all the user forms. All managers and other guys higher up there who spend more time in computers forwarding reports they never prepare and chatting were punching me with all non-sense professional jargons from linkedin in the MD's Office. I simply told them I had no time to waste with their non-sense discussion and went back to my cube. About 10 minutes later, I had a solution with a number of culprits and guess who, half of them were my catch. They had shared couples of pics from their previous, trip. They shared those photos through the main file server from an infected USB flash disk. Some pressures are non sense from lazy guys present themselves as professionals but really a bunch of bogus guys.
4. Is this a manager or a jack off trade bass ass?
5. Is also an interesting question, the no of users doesn't necessarily tell how competent one is with both ERP concepts and processes implemented by the respective ERPs. For example having 40 users( 20-sales people, 10- stores guys, 1-accounting, 1-purchasing, 1-market guy, the rest are bosses who simple look at very few reports. On top of that , what if these guys are really good, they don't need much help, in setting chat of account, costing, production etc.
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Hi Skunks.
We have an emergency post to fill. All interested kindly send your cv offlist and answer the following questions.
1. Briefly describe and explain your most preferred technique of securing computer networks?
2. In your own opinion, where would you place an antivirus program, in a network that contains two servers and twenty workstations?
3. Tell me about an IT related decision you made recently while under intense pressure.
4. Describe a time when you had to develop and present plans that anticipated new technologies not yet in use in your workplace. How did you go about researching them and creating a case for early experimentation and/or pilot programs?
5. What kinds of ERP systems have you worked with? On average, how many people used the systems at each given day?
NB:
1) Plagiarism will not be tolerated (Any detection of copy pasted answers from Google or any other source will lead to disqualification).
2) Stick to the point but provide detailed answers.
Warm Regards,
Owen Sakawa
Tel: +254723060160
Skype: owen.sakawa
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On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks. Sincerely, Jared Oyier
Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for? Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons. or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers. Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks.
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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IT manager Questions should be done with specific organizational goals in mind , if the company is looking for someone who will lead it to using new technologies not existing the organization , then they're not looking for a techie manager they are looking for a project manager (i suspect that's what they're looking for in this case) , if they're looking for a manager to come in and take control over the systems and technologies the organization has invested in , then they're looking for the guy who's been in the trenches and seen it all from cable laying to server setups to disaster recovery preparedness or in some cases has been involved in disaster recovery (most companies i'm sure don't do the disaster recovery preparedness drills , but most bank IT guys know what i'm talking of) , then there are those who are looking for someone who will help the organization in getting "more from their investments" , here you're looking at the IT idea think tank , basically integrations , automation ,new services (at no cost apart from human resource and dev feature enhancements ) , this guy basically has a vast experience with systems and probably has certificates from all over All organizations will have to go through these types of managers. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for?
Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons.
or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers.
Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks.
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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So its : ICT Position Manager or ICT Manager Position If this wasn't a copy paste from a voice conversation .... I don't know :-( Regards, Alvin Ochola On 13 October 2016 at 09:49, geoffrey gitagia via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
IT manager Questions should be done with specific organizational goals in mind , if the company is looking for someone who will lead it to using new technologies not existing the organization , then they're not looking for a techie manager they are looking for a project manager (i suspect that's what they're looking for in this case) , if they're looking for a manager to come in and take control over the systems and technologies the organization has invested in , then they're looking for the guy who's been in the trenches and seen it all from cable laying to server setups to disaster recovery preparedness or in some cases has been involved in disaster recovery (most companies i'm sure don't do the disaster recovery preparedness drills , but most bank IT guys know what i'm talking of) , then there are those who are looking for someone who will help the organization in getting "more from their investments" , here you're looking at the IT idea think tank , basically integrations , automation ,new services (at no cost apart from human resource and dev feature enhancements ) , this guy basically has a vast experience with systems and probably has certificates from all over
All organizations will have to go through these types of managers.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for?
Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons.
or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers.
Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks.
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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Key element to a successful IT Manager would be the level of understanding of the business goals of a specific organization and how to align available resources towards achieving the goals. Unless it an organization where Manager is just a title. Regards, On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:49 AM, geoffrey gitagia via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
IT manager Questions should be done with specific organizational goals in mind , if the company is looking for someone who will lead it to using new technologies not existing the organization , then they're not looking for a techie manager they are looking for a project manager (i suspect that's what they're looking for in this case) , if they're looking for a manager to come in and take control over the systems and technologies the organization has invested in , then they're looking for the guy who's been in the trenches and seen it all from cable laying to server setups to disaster recovery preparedness or in some cases has been involved in disaster recovery (most companies i'm sure don't do the disaster recovery preparedness drills , but most bank IT guys know what i'm talking of) , then there are those who are looking for someone who will help the organization in getting "more from their investments" , here you're looking at the IT idea think tank , basically integrations , automation ,new services (at no cost apart from human resource and dev feature enhancements ) , this guy basically has a vast experience with systems and probably has certificates from all over
All organizations will have to go through these types of managers.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for?
Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons.
or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers.
Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks.
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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Good one too GG. Ogori ________________________________ From: geoffrey gitagia via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:49 AM To: Peter Karunyu; Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] ICT Position Manager IT manager Questions should be done with specific organizational goals in mind , if the company is looking for someone who will lead it to using new technologies not existing the organization , then they're not looking for a techie manager they are looking for a project manager (i suspect that's what they're looking for in this case) , if they're looking for a manager to come in and take control over the systems and technologies the organization has invested in , then they're looking for the guy who's been in the trenches and seen it all from cable laying to server setups to disaster recovery preparedness or in some cases has been involved in disaster recovery (most companies i'm sure don't do the disaster recovery preparedness drills , but most bank IT guys know what i'm talking of) , then there are those who are looking for someone who will help the organization in getting "more from their investments" , here you're looking at the IT idea think tank , basically integrations , automation ,new services (at no cost apart from human resource and dev feature enhancements ) , this guy basically has a vast experience with systems and probably has certificates from all over All organizations will have to go through these types of managers. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>> wrote: Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for? Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons. or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers. Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>> wrote: On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>> wrote: Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud. True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks. Sincerely, Jared Oyier _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- GG
Quite an interesting one. To me, while skills and experience are important, I would largely look at academic/professional qualifications and the attitude-can do it and willing to try it attitude, and all others are acquired over time. In fact, this reminds me of an interview I attended at KQ some years back. And when I look back, all I say is well, May be it's the reason they have as a company posted "very good" results YoY. Regards, Patrick On Oct 13, 2016 6:48 PM, "Noah Ogori via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Good one too GG.
Ogori
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IT manager Questions should be done with specific organizational goals in mind , if the company is looking for someone who will lead it to using new technologies not existing the organization , then they're not looking for a techie manager they are looking for a project manager (i suspect that's what they're looking for in this case) , if they're looking for a manager to come in and take control over the systems and technologies the organization has invested in , then they're looking for the guy who's been in the trenches and seen it all from cable laying to server setups to disaster recovery preparedness or in some cases has been involved in disaster recovery (most companies i'm sure don't do the disaster recovery preparedness drills , but most bank IT guys know what i'm talking of) , then there are those who are looking for someone who will help the organization in getting "more from their investments" , here you're looking at the IT idea think tank , basically integrations , automation ,new services (at no cost apart from human resource and dev feature enhancements ) , this guy basically has a vast experience with systems and probably has certificates from all over
All organizations will have to go through these types of managers.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for?
Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons.
or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers.
Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks <
skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks.
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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I'd say, to each his own. We all have our own patent processes for hiring IT Managers, so let the poster ask his own set of questions. On Thu, 13 Oct 2016, 19:41 Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks, < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Quite an interesting one. To me, while skills and experience are important, I would largely look at academic/professional qualifications and the attitude-can do it and willing to try it attitude, and all others are acquired over time. In fact, this reminds me of an interview I attended at KQ some years back. And when I look back, all I say is well, May be it's the reason they have as a company posted "very good" results YoY.
Regards, Patrick
On Oct 13, 2016 6:48 PM, "Noah Ogori via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Good one too GG.
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IT manager Questions should be done with specific organizational goals in mind , if the company is looking for someone who will lead it to using new technologies not existing the organization , then they're not looking for a techie manager they are looking for a project manager (i suspect that's what they're looking for in this case) , if they're looking for a manager to come in and take control over the systems and technologies the organization has invested in , then they're looking for the guy who's been in the trenches and seen it all from cable laying to server setups to disaster recovery preparedness or in some cases has been involved in disaster recovery (most companies i'm sure don't do the disaster recovery preparedness drills , but most bank IT guys know what i'm talking of) , then there are those who are looking for someone who will help the organization in getting "more from their investments" , here you're looking at the IT idea think tank , basically integrations , automation ,new services (at no cost apart from human resource and dev feature enhancements ) , this guy basically has a vast experience with systems and probably has certificates from all over
All organizations will have to go through these types of managers.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for?
Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons.
or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers.
Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks <
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Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks.
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Peter, You need a guy with a good mix of both academic qualifications and technical skills. If you lean on either side you'll have problems. If you are well educated you will not suffer from inferiority complex and you will be versed with the theoretical perspectives of the technical systems as well. A well educated person is also able to search for information when he encounters challenges and piece it together to solve a problem. Technical skills are required for you to be able to manage staff otherwise some will keep taking you round and doing nothing. They should know that despite you managing them, you could also roll up your sleeves and solve a technical problems. A manager should be capable of at least engaging technical staff technically when you have a challenging problems and provide ideas /leads on how to resolve them even if you will not handle the nuts and bolts directly. Regards, James On Oct 13, 2016 9:12 AM, "Peter Karunyu via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for?
Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons.
or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers.
Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks.
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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I hope Mr. Sakawa is reading all of these excellent suggestions! On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:20 AM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter,
You need a guy with a good mix of both academic qualifications and technical skills. If you lean on either side you'll have problems. If you are well educated you will not suffer from inferiority complex and you will be versed with the theoretical perspectives of the technical systems as well. A well educated person is also able to search for information when he encounters challenges and piece it together to solve a problem.
Technical skills are required for you to be able to manage staff otherwise some will keep taking you round and doing nothing. They should know that despite you managing them, you could also roll up your sleeves and solve a technical problems. A manager should be capable of at least engaging technical staff technically when you have a challenging problems and provide ideas /leads on how to resolve them even if you will not handle the nuts and bolts directly.
Regards, James
On Oct 13, 2016 9:12 AM, "Peter Karunyu via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for?
Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons.
or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers.
Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks.
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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Hope so too .. I believe he ''copy pasted'' something ....lol Alvin Ochola On 13 October 2016 at 11:48, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I hope Mr. Sakawa is reading all of these excellent suggestions!
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:20 AM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter,
You need a guy with a good mix of both academic qualifications and technical skills. If you lean on either side you'll have problems. If you are well educated you will not suffer from inferiority complex and you will be versed with the theoretical perspectives of the technical systems as well. A well educated person is also able to search for information when he encounters challenges and piece it together to solve a problem.
Technical skills are required for you to be able to manage staff otherwise some will keep taking you round and doing nothing. They should know that despite you managing them, you could also roll up your sleeves and solve a technical problems. A manager should be capable of at least engaging technical staff technically when you have a challenging problems and provide ideas /leads on how to resolve them even if you will not handle the nuts and bolts directly.
Regards, James
On Oct 13, 2016 9:12 AM, "Peter Karunyu via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for?
Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons.
or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers.
Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks.
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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Take a way CAT is finished! 30/30. Ndio mjue *students hawataki ujinga. * On 13 October 2016 at 11:53, Alvin Ochola via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hope so too .. I believe he ''copy pasted'' something ....lol
Alvin Ochola
On 13 October 2016 at 11:48, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I hope Mr. Sakawa is reading all of these excellent suggestions!
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:20 AM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter,
You need a guy with a good mix of both academic qualifications and technical skills. If you lean on either side you'll have problems. If you are well educated you will not suffer from inferiority complex and you will be versed with the theoretical perspectives of the technical systems as well. A well educated person is also able to search for information when he encounters challenges and piece it together to solve a problem.
Technical skills are required for you to be able to manage staff otherwise some will keep taking you round and doing nothing. They should know that despite you managing them, you could also roll up your sleeves and solve a technical problems. A manager should be capable of at least engaging technical staff technically when you have a challenging problems and provide ideas /leads on how to resolve them even if you will not handle the nuts and bolts directly.
Regards, James
On Oct 13, 2016 9:12 AM, "Peter Karunyu via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for?
Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons.
or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers.
Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks.
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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By the way.. Hii inaweza kuwa assignment ya mtu On 13 Oct 2016 12:09 PM, "Isaac Kiplagat via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Take a way CAT is finished! 30/30. Ndio mjue *students hawataki ujinga. *
On 13 October 2016 at 11:53, Alvin Ochola via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hope so too .. I believe he ''copy pasted'' something ....lol
Alvin Ochola
On 13 October 2016 at 11:48, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I hope Mr. Sakawa is reading all of these excellent suggestions!
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:20 AM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter,
You need a guy with a good mix of both academic qualifications and technical skills. If you lean on either side you'll have problems. If you are well educated you will not suffer from inferiority complex and you will be versed with the theoretical perspectives of the technical systems as well. A well educated person is also able to search for information when he encounters challenges and piece it together to solve a problem.
Technical skills are required for you to be able to manage staff otherwise some will keep taking you round and doing nothing. They should know that despite you managing them, you could also roll up your sleeves and solve a technical problems. A manager should be capable of at least engaging technical staff technically when you have a challenging problems and provide ideas /leads on how to resolve them even if you will not handle the nuts and bolts directly.
Regards, James
On Oct 13, 2016 9:12 AM, "Peter Karunyu via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okay guys, out of curiosity, what questions would you ask an applicant to an IT Manager position? What qualifications and experience would you look for?
Would you prefer an academic IT Manager, one with all the right papers and qualifications, who is very familiar with all the buzzwords, but who cant roll up his sleeves and solve intricate tech problems? I am sure most of you have met this kind of IT manager, and remember him/her well, and not for good reasons.
or would you prefer a person born and bred in the trenches, who has seen and done it all, but happens not to have all the shiny papers.
Because, IMHO, people who have both are either self employed, not available or too darn expensive.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
On 13 October 2016 at 08:22, James Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need > answered for free.....just thinking loud.
True, this guy is doing his assignments through Skunkworks.
Sincerely, Jared Oyier
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:22 AM, James Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hahahaha those are academic question he got as take away CAT he need answered for free.....just thinking loud.
No way these are academic questions! They are too specific and our academic institutions love to teach "broad concepts", totally ridiculous if you ask me. They are not also from a professional certification e.g. CCNA because those are way more specific
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