ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members - Two Kenyans on the list
ICANN has released the members of the strategic panels formed in ICANN47 Durban. and two Kenyans are members of the panels. ICANN Multistakeholder Innovation Hon. Bitange Ndemo, member — Former Permanent Secretary, Kenyan Ministry of Information and Communication ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem Alice Munyua , Member— Chair of the Kenya Internet Governance Steering Committee. Congrats to our own who continue to represent us in the international landscape. Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Date: 16 October 2013 20:16 Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members To: AfrICANN list <africann@afrinic.net> Congrats to the Many members of AfrICANN on the ICANN Strategy panels. Ndemo, Nii, Munyua, Adiel. We look forward to you to do a superb job. Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 16 October 2013 01:26, Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@icann.org> wrote:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-14oct13-en.htm ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members****
14 October 2013****
ICANN welcomes over 40 diverse practitioners, subject matter experts, and thought leaders as members of the ICANN Strategy Panels<http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-15jul13-en.htm>to support development of ICANN's strategic and operational plans. ****
ICANN Strategy Panels will serve as an integral part of a framework for cross-community dialogue on strategic matters. Designed to conduct work in critical strategic areas identified by the community, Board, and staff<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/conversation-input-24jun13-en.pdf>[PDF, 209 KB], the work of these panels will build on public input being generated to inform a new, overarching vision and five-year strategic plan. As illustrated<http://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/strategy-panels-timeline-1400x667-14oct13-en.png>, there will be extensive information sharing and community engagement with the Panels. Panel output will be posted for public comments and community discussion online and at ICANN meetings, before being factored into ICANN's strategic and/or operating plans<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement>, as appropriate.****
A video interview with Theresa Swinehart, Senior Advisor to the President on Strategy, is available here<http://www.icann.org/en/news/press/kits/video-swinehart-strategy-14oct13-en.htm> .**** Identifier Technology Innovation<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology> **** *Chair*****
Paul Mockapetris<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#paul-mockapetris>— Inventor, Domain Name System **** *Members*****
Jari Arkko<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#arkko>— Chair, Internet Engineering Task Force Anne-Marie Eklund-Löwinder<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#eklund-lowinder>— Security Manager, The Internet Infrastructure Foundation Geoff Huston<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#huston>— Chief Scientist, Asia-Pacific Network Information Center James Seng<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#seng>— CEO, Zodiac Holdings Paul Vixie<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#vixie>— CEO, Farsight Security Lixia Zhang<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#zhang>— Postel Chair of Computer Science, University of California Los Angeles ****
This panel is dedicated to strategizing engagement with the ICANN community and public on technology matters. Its objectives include developing a technology roadmap for DNS and other identifiers, and providing a technology roadmap for ICANN technical and security operations, including best practice recommendations and reference objects.**** ICANN Multistakeholder Innovation<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation> **** *Chair*****
Beth Simone Noveck<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#beth-simone-noveck>— Founder and Director, The Governance Lab **** *Members*****
Alison Gillwald<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#gillwald>— Executive Director, Research ICT Africa Joi Ito<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#ito>— Director, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Media Lab Karim Lakhani<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#lakhani>— Lumry Family Associate Professor of Business Administration, Harvard University Guo Liang<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#liang>— Director, China Internet Project Geoff Mulgan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#mulgan>— Chief Executive, National Endowment for Science Technology and the Arts Hon. Bitange Ndemo<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#ndemo>— Permanent Secretary, Kenyan Ministry of Information and Communication ****
This panel is tasked with examining how Internet policy related to unique identifiers might be best managed. It will propose new models for broad, inclusive engagement, consensus-based policymaking, and institutional structures to support such enhanced functions. In addition, it will design processes, tools and platforms to enable the global ICANN community to engage in these new forms of participatory decision-making.**** Public Responsibility Framework<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility> **** *Chair*****
Nii Quaynor<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#nii-quaynor>— Founding Chairman, AfriNIC **** *Members*****
Tim Berners-Lee<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#berners-lee>— Director, World Wide Web Consortium Soumitra Dutta<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#dutta>— Dean of Johnson Graduate School of Management, Cornell University Bob Hinden<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#hinden>— Check Point Fellow, Check Point Software Technologies Blake Irving<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#irving>— CEO, Go Daddy Nevine Tewfik<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#tewfik>— Director, Cyber Peace Initiative Raúl Zambrano<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#zambrano>— Team Leader, Inclusive Participation and Global Policy Adviser in the ICT for Development and e-governance team, United Nations Development Program* ***
This panel will propose ICANN's role and five-year strategic objectives and milestones in promoting the global public interest. It will examine ways of building out ICANN's base of internationally diverse, knowledgeable and engaged stakeholders, especially within the developing world. It will also propose a framework for achieving those objectives and milestones as well providing advice on specific programs and initiatives.**** ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem> **** *Chair*****
Vinton Cerf<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#vinton-cerf>— VP and Chief Internet Evangelist, Google **** *Members*****
Adiel Akplogan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#akplogan>— CEO, AfriNIC Ltd Michael Barrett<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#barrett>— President, The FIDO Alliance Hartmut Glaser<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#glaser>— Executive Secretary, Brazilian Internet Steering Committee/CGI.br Erik Huizer<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#huizer>— Chief Technology Officer, SURFnet Hagen Hultzsch<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#hultzsch> — Zimory Chairman of the Board Janis Karklins<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#karklins>— Assistant Director General of Communication and Information, United Nations Educational, Scientific & Cultural Organization Wolfgang Kleinwächter<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#kleinwachter>— Professor of International Communication Policy and Regulation, University of Aarhus Luis Magalhães<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#magalhaes>— Professor at * *Instituto Superior Técnico, Technical University of Lisbon Debbie Monahan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#monahan>— Domain Names Commissioner, Domain Name Commission Ltd, part of the InternetNZ Group Alice Munyua<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#munyua>— Chair of the Kenya Internet Governance Steering Committee P.J. Narayanan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#narayanan>— Director, Hyderabad International Institute of Information Technology Alejandro Pisanty<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#pisanty>— Director General, Academic Computing Service of the National University of Mexico Carlton Samuels<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#samuels>— Former Secretariat, Latin America and Caribbean Regional At-Large Advisory Organization Ismail Serageldin<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#serageldin>— Director, Library of Alexandria Pindar Wong<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#wong>— Chairman, Asia and Pacific Internet Association ****
The previously announced<http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-15jul13-en.htm>"Strategy Panel on ICANN's Role in the Internet Organizations' Ecosystem" and the "Strategy Panel on the Role of ICANN in the Future of Internet Governance" have been integrated given the topics, and are now covered under this Strategy Panel on "ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem." This panel will review the assumptions, linkages and frameworks that dictate ICANN's responsibilities in the current Internet ecosystem. It will seek insights into ways to maintain and enhance ICANN's stewardship of the evolving ecosystem while cultivating thought leadership on ways in which ICANN can serve a complex set of Internet constituencies.****
The 5th panel originally identified will be refocused and is expected to be forthcoming later this year****
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Read alongside:A blueprint for the future oversight of ICANN ... We respectfully suggest that the Rio meeting must *not* be organized as a parade of ”leaders” on a podium purporting to speak for the public. Let the meeting be open to anyone and everyone with a serious stake in the accountability of ICANN and its relationship to the U.S. and other governments. Let it have an open process for submitting, deliberating upon and expressing support for or opposition to specific proposals. Let us also not forget that ICANN and its oversight are the main topic of the meeting, which suggests that ICANN’s staff should not be playing a major role in setting the agenda for the meeting; ICANN has a bit of a conflict of interest in that regard. We must not allow ICANN to use its escape from the USG to escape all accountability. Ideas should be solicited widely, not from an assemblage of leaders hand-picked by the institution being governed. Let any dialogue on transition emerge openly from civil society, industry and governments and let them determine their own representation in the Rio event. That is the essence of “bottom up, multistakeholder” governance. .. http://www.internetgovernance.org/2013/10/16/a-blueprint-for-the-future-over... On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
ICANN has released the members of the strategic panels formed in ICANN47 Durban. and two Kenyans are members of the panels.
ICANN Multistakeholder Innovation Hon. Bitange Ndemo, member — Former Permanent Secretary, Kenyan Ministry of Information and Communication
ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem Alice Munyua , Member— Chair of the Kenya Internet Governance Steering Committee.
Congrats to our own who continue to represent us in the international landscape.
Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Date: 16 October 2013 20:16 Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members To: AfrICANN list <africann@afrinic.net>
Congrats to the Many members of AfrICANN on the ICANN Strategy panels. Ndemo, Nii, Munyua, Adiel.
We look forward to you to do a superb job.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 16 October 2013 01:26, Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@icann.org> wrote:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-14oct13-en.htm ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members****
14 October 2013****
ICANN welcomes over 40 diverse practitioners, subject matter experts, and thought leaders as members of the ICANN Strategy Panels<http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-15jul13-en.htm>to support development of ICANN's strategic and operational plans. ****
ICANN Strategy Panels will serve as an integral part of a framework for cross-community dialogue on strategic matters. Designed to conduct work in critical strategic areas identified by the community, Board, and staff<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/conversation-input-24jun13-en.pdf>[PDF, 209 KB], the work of these panels will build on public input being generated to inform a new, overarching vision and five-year strategic plan. As illustrated<http://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/strategy-panels-timeline-1400x667-14oct13-en.png>, there will be extensive information sharing and community engagement with the Panels. Panel output will be posted for public comments and community discussion online and at ICANN meetings, before being factored into ICANN's strategic and/or operating plans<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement>, as appropriate.****
A video interview with Theresa Swinehart, Senior Advisor to the President on Strategy, is available here<http://www.icann.org/en/news/press/kits/video-swinehart-strategy-14oct13-en.htm> .**** Identifier Technology Innovation<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology> **** *Chair*****
Paul Mockapetris<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#paul-mockapetris>— Inventor, Domain Name System **** *Members*****
Jari Arkko<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#arkko>— Chair, Internet Engineering Task Force Anne-Marie Eklund-Löwinder<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#eklund-lowinder>— Security Manager, The Internet Infrastructure Foundation Geoff Huston<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#huston>— Chief Scientist, Asia-Pacific Network Information Center James Seng<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#seng>— CEO, Zodiac Holdings Paul Vixie<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#vixie>— CEO, Farsight Security Lixia Zhang<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#zhang>— Postel Chair of Computer Science, University of California Los Angeles ****
This panel is dedicated to strategizing engagement with the ICANN community and public on technology matters. Its objectives include developing a technology roadmap for DNS and other identifiers, and providing a technology roadmap for ICANN technical and security operations, including best practice recommendations and reference objects.**** ICANN Multistakeholder Innovation<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation> **** *Chair*****
Beth Simone Noveck<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#beth-simone-noveck>— Founder and Director, The Governance Lab **** *Members*****
Alison Gillwald<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#gillwald>— Executive Director, Research ICT Africa Joi Ito<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#ito>— Director, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Media Lab Karim Lakhani<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#lakhani>— Lumry Family Associate Professor of Business Administration, Harvard University Guo Liang<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#liang>— Director, China Internet Project Geoff Mulgan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#mulgan>— Chief Executive, National Endowment for Science Technology and the Arts Hon. Bitange Ndemo<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#ndemo>— Permanent Secretary, Kenyan Ministry of Information and Communication ****
This panel is tasked with examining how Internet policy related to unique identifiers might be best managed. It will propose new models for broad, inclusive engagement, consensus-based policymaking, and institutional structures to support such enhanced functions. In addition, it will design processes, tools and platforms to enable the global ICANN community to engage in these new forms of participatory decision-making.**** Public Responsibility Framework<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility> **** *Chair*****
Nii Quaynor<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#nii-quaynor>— Founding Chairman, AfriNIC **** *Members*****
Tim Berners-Lee<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#berners-lee>— Director, World Wide Web Consortium Soumitra Dutta<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#dutta>— Dean of Johnson Graduate School of Management, Cornell University Bob Hinden<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#hinden>— Check Point Fellow, Check Point Software Technologies Blake Irving<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#irving>— CEO, Go Daddy Nevine Tewfik<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#tewfik>— Director, Cyber Peace Initiative Raúl Zambrano<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#zambrano>— Team Leader, Inclusive Participation and Global Policy Adviser in the ICT for Development and e-governance team, United Nations Development Program ****
This panel will propose ICANN's role and five-year strategic objectives and milestones in promoting the global public interest. It will examine ways of building out ICANN's base of internationally diverse, knowledgeable and engaged stakeholders, especially within the developing world. It will also propose a framework for achieving those objectives and milestones as well providing advice on specific programs and initiatives.**** ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem> **** *Chair*****
Vinton Cerf<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#vinton-cerf>— VP and Chief Internet Evangelist, Google **** *Members*****
Adiel Akplogan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#akplogan>— CEO, AfriNIC Ltd Michael Barrett<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#barrett>— President, The FIDO Alliance Hartmut Glaser<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#glaser>— Executive Secretary, Brazilian Internet Steering Committee/CGI.br Erik Huizer<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#huizer>— Chief Technology Officer, SURFnet Hagen Hultzsch<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#hultzsch> — Zimory Chairman of the Board Janis Karklins<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#karklins>— Assistant Director General of Communication and Information, United Nations Educational, Scientific & Cultural Organization Wolfgang Kleinwächter<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#kleinwachter>— Professor of International Communication Policy and Regulation, University of Aarhus Luis Magalhães<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#magalhaes>— Professor at * *Instituto Superior Técnico, Technical University of Lisbon Debbie Monahan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#monahan>— Domain Names Commissioner, Domain Name Commission Ltd, part of the InternetNZ Group Alice Munyua<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#munyua>— Chair of the Kenya Internet Governance Steering Committee P.J. Narayanan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#narayanan>— Director, Hyderabad International Institute of Information Technology Alejandro Pisanty<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#pisanty>— Director General, Academic Computing Service of the National University of Mexico Carlton Samuels<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#samuels>— Former Secretariat, Latin America and Caribbean Regional At-Large Advisory Organization Ismail Serageldin<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#serageldin>— Director, Library of Alexandria Pindar Wong<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#wong>— Chairman, Asia and Pacific Internet Association ****
The previously announced<http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-15jul13-en.htm>"Strategy Panel on ICANN's Role in the Internet Organizations' Ecosystem" and the "Strategy Panel on the Role of ICANN in the Future of Internet Governance" have been integrated given the topics, and are now covered under this Strategy Panel on "ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem." This panel will review the assumptions, linkages and frameworks that dictate ICANN's responsibilities in the current Internet ecosystem. It will seek insights into ways to maintain and enhance ICANN's stewardship of the evolving ecosystem while cultivating thought leadership on ways in which ICANN can serve a complex set of Internet constituencies.****
The 5th panel originally identified will be refocused and is expected to be forthcoming later this year****
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This is an interesting debate Gakuru, especially now that Brazil announced plans to build their own internet after the Snowden affair. ICANN through Fadi saw it fit to have a high level Internet Governance meeting with the representatives of BRICS to allay fears over the US-centric internet and demonstrate that they are dedicated to the Multistakeholder approach. The civil society more prominently IGC are ensuring that they are well represented and that they also get to set the agenda of that meeting. But it has been noted that since President Rousseff will be running for re-election just about that time, she might not be upto the task. It will be interesting to see how things will shape up. On 16/10/2013, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Read alongside:A blueprint for the future oversight of ICANN ... We respectfully suggest that the Rio meeting must *not* be organized as a parade of ”leaders” on a podium purporting to speak for the public. Let the meeting be open to anyone and everyone with a serious stake in the accountability of ICANN and its relationship to the U.S. and other governments. Let it have an open process for submitting, deliberating upon and expressing support for or opposition to specific proposals. Let us also not forget that ICANN and its oversight are the main topic of the meeting, which suggests that ICANN’s staff should not be playing a major role in setting the agenda for the meeting; ICANN has a bit of a conflict of interest in that regard. We must not allow ICANN to use its escape from the USG to escape all accountability. Ideas should be solicited widely, not from an assemblage of leaders hand-picked by the institution being governed. Let any dialogue on transition emerge openly from civil society, industry and governments and let them determine their own representation in the Rio event. That is the essence of “bottom up, multistakeholder” governance. .. http://www.internetgovernance.org/2013/10/16/a-blueprint-for-the-future-over...
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
ICANN has released the members of the strategic panels formed in ICANN47 Durban. and two Kenyans are members of the panels.
ICANN Multistakeholder Innovation Hon. Bitange Ndemo, member — Former Permanent Secretary, Kenyan Ministry of Information and Communication
ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem Alice Munyua , Member— Chair of the Kenya Internet Governance Steering Committee.
Congrats to our own who continue to represent us in the international landscape.
Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Date: 16 October 2013 20:16 Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members To: AfrICANN list <africann@afrinic.net>
Congrats to the Many members of AfrICANN on the ICANN Strategy panels. Ndemo, Nii, Munyua, Adiel.
We look forward to you to do a superb job.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 16 October 2013 01:26, Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@icann.org> wrote:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-14oct13-en.htm ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members****
14 October 2013****
ICANN welcomes over 40 diverse practitioners, subject matter experts, and thought leaders as members of the ICANN Strategy Panels<http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-15jul13-en.htm>to support development of ICANN's strategic and operational plans. ****
ICANN Strategy Panels will serve as an integral part of a framework for cross-community dialogue on strategic matters. Designed to conduct work in critical strategic areas identified by the community, Board, and staff<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/conversation-input-24jun13-en.pdf>[PDF, 209 KB], the work of these panels will build on public input being generated to inform a new, overarching vision and five-year strategic plan. As illustrated<http://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/strategy-panels-timeline-1400x667-14oct13-en.png>, there will be extensive information sharing and community engagement with the Panels. Panel output will be posted for public comments and community discussion online and at ICANN meetings, before being factored into ICANN's strategic and/or operating plans<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement>, as appropriate.****
A video interview with Theresa Swinehart, Senior Advisor to the President on Strategy, is available here<http://www.icann.org/en/news/press/kits/video-swinehart-strategy-14oct13-en.htm> .**** Identifier Technology Innovation<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology> **** *Chair*****
Paul Mockapetris<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#paul-mockapetris>— Inventor, Domain Name System **** *Members*****
Jari Arkko<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#arkko>— Chair, Internet Engineering Task Force Anne-Marie Eklund-Löwinder<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#eklund-lowinder>— Security Manager, The Internet Infrastructure Foundation Geoff Huston<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#huston>— Chief Scientist, Asia-Pacific Network Information Center James Seng<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#seng>— CEO, Zodiac Holdings Paul Vixie<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#vixie>— CEO, Farsight Security Lixia Zhang<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#zhang>— Postel Chair of Computer Science, University of California Los Angeles ****
This panel is dedicated to strategizing engagement with the ICANN community and public on technology matters. Its objectives include developing a technology roadmap for DNS and other identifiers, and providing a technology roadmap for ICANN technical and security operations, including best practice recommendations and reference objects.**** ICANN Multistakeholder Innovation<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation> **** *Chair*****
Beth Simone Noveck<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#beth-simone-noveck>— Founder and Director, The Governance Lab **** *Members*****
Alison Gillwald<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#gillwald>— Executive Director, Research ICT Africa Joi Ito<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#ito>— Director, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Media Lab Karim Lakhani<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#lakhani>— Lumry Family Associate Professor of Business Administration, Harvard University Guo Liang<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#liang>— Director, China Internet Project Geoff Mulgan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#mulgan>— Chief Executive, National Endowment for Science Technology and the Arts Hon. Bitange Ndemo<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#ndemo>— Permanent Secretary, Kenyan Ministry of Information and Communication ****
This panel is tasked with examining how Internet policy related to unique identifiers might be best managed. It will propose new models for broad, inclusive engagement, consensus-based policymaking, and institutional structures to support such enhanced functions. In addition, it will design processes, tools and platforms to enable the global ICANN community to engage in these new forms of participatory decision-making.**** Public Responsibility Framework<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility> **** *Chair*****
Nii Quaynor<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#nii-quaynor>— Founding Chairman, AfriNIC **** *Members*****
Tim Berners-Lee<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#berners-lee>— Director, World Wide Web Consortium Soumitra Dutta<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#dutta>— Dean of Johnson Graduate School of Management, Cornell University Bob Hinden<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#hinden>— Check Point Fellow, Check Point Software Technologies Blake Irving<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#irving>— CEO, Go Daddy Nevine Tewfik<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#tewfik>— Director, Cyber Peace Initiative Raúl Zambrano<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#zambrano>— Team Leader, Inclusive Participation and Global Policy Adviser in the ICT for Development and e-governance team, United Nations Development Program ****
This panel will propose ICANN's role and five-year strategic objectives and milestones in promoting the global public interest. It will examine ways of building out ICANN's base of internationally diverse, knowledgeable and engaged stakeholders, especially within the developing world. It will also propose a framework for achieving those objectives and milestones as well providing advice on specific programs and initiatives.**** ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem> **** *Chair*****
Vinton Cerf<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#vinton-cerf>— VP and Chief Internet Evangelist, Google **** *Members*****
Adiel Akplogan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#akplogan>— CEO, AfriNIC Ltd Michael Barrett<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#barrett>— President, The FIDO Alliance Hartmut Glaser<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#glaser>— Executive Secretary, Brazilian Internet Steering Committee/CGI.br Erik Huizer<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#huizer>— Chief Technology Officer, SURFnet Hagen Hultzsch<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#hultzsch> — Zimory Chairman of the Board Janis Karklins<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#karklins>— Assistant Director General of Communication and Information, United Nations Educational, Scientific & Cultural Organization Wolfgang Kleinwächter<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#kleinwachter>— Professor of International Communication Policy and Regulation, University of Aarhus Luis Magalhães<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#magalhaes>— Professor at * *Instituto Superior Técnico, Technical University of Lisbon Debbie Monahan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#monahan>— Domain Names Commissioner, Domain Name Commission Ltd, part of the InternetNZ Group Alice Munyua<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#munyua>— Chair of the Kenya Internet Governance Steering Committee P.J. Narayanan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#narayanan>— Director, Hyderabad International Institute of Information Technology Alejandro Pisanty<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#pisanty>— Director General, Academic Computing Service of the National University of Mexico Carlton Samuels<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#samuels>— Former Secretariat, Latin America and Caribbean Regional At-Large Advisory Organization Ismail Serageldin<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#serageldin>— Director, Library of Alexandria Pindar Wong<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#wong>— Chairman, Asia and Pacific Internet Association ****
The previously announced<http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-15jul13-en.htm>"Strategy Panel on ICANN's Role in the Internet Organizations' Ecosystem" and the "Strategy Panel on the Role of ICANN in the Future of Internet Governance" have been integrated given the topics, and are now covered under this Strategy Panel on "ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem." This panel will review the assumptions, linkages and frameworks that dictate ICANN's responsibilities in the current Internet ecosystem. It will seek insights into ways to maintain and enhance ICANN's stewardship of the evolving ecosystem while cultivating thought leadership on ways in which ICANN can serve a complex set of Internet constituencies.****
The 5th panel originally identified will be refocused and is expected to be forthcoming later this year****
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Its interesting and frustrating as well. ICANN system architects design it to choke global public interest while fronting an "open participation" *façade. * when in reality it is controlled by an over represented bunch of Intellectual Property private interests and their handsomely rewarded 'activists'. Let's face it, infuriates to see some Africans pipers "participating" motivated by promises of air tickets and some travel allowances thus go there to sing a pre-set tune chorus tune -- praising whomever calls the tune and pays the piper. Thoroughly associate myself with Prof. Milton Mueller on below. regards, Alex --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Milton L Mueller <mueller@syr.edu> Date: Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Fadi's strategy panels To: Jorge Amodio <jmamodio@gmail.com>, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> Cc: "ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" <ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org> Ignore them, and they will go away. These panels not only have no legitimacy, there is really no clear explanation for why we need them and what they will do that meets a need defined by CANN's actual constituencies and communities. The idea that a group of 6 people led by someone who has never spent a minute in ICANN's process or in the formulation or analysis of DNS policy is going to make major reforms in process strikes me as especially ridiculous. --MM On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
This is an interesting debate Gakuru, especially now that Brazil announced plans to build their own internet after the Snowden affair. ICANN through Fadi saw it fit to have a high level Internet Governance meeting with the representatives of BRICS to allay fears over the US-centric internet and demonstrate that they are dedicated to the Multistakeholder approach. The civil society more prominently IGC are ensuring that they are well represented and that they also get to set the agenda of that meeting. But it has been noted that since President Rousseff will be running for re-election just about that time, she might not be upto the task.
It will be interesting to see how things will shape up.
On 16/10/2013, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Read alongside:A blueprint for the future oversight of ICANN ... We respectfully suggest that the Rio meeting must *not* be organized as a parade of ”leaders” on a podium purporting to speak for the public. Let the meeting be open to anyone and everyone with a serious stake in the accountability of ICANN and its relationship to the U.S. and other governments. Let it have an open process for submitting, deliberating upon and expressing support for or opposition to specific proposals. Let us also not forget that ICANN and its oversight are the main topic of the meeting, which suggests that ICANN’s staff should not be playing a major role in setting the agenda for the meeting; ICANN has a bit of a conflict of interest in that regard. We must not allow ICANN to use its escape from the USG to escape all accountability. Ideas should be solicited widely, not from an assemblage of leaders hand-picked by the institution being governed. Let any dialogue on transition emerge openly from civil society, industry and governments and let them determine their own representation in the Rio event. That is the essence of “bottom up, multistakeholder” governance. ..
http://www.internetgovernance.org/2013/10/16/a-blueprint-for-the-future-over...
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
ICANN has released the members of the strategic panels formed in ICANN47 Durban. and two Kenyans are members of the panels.
ICANN Multistakeholder Innovation Hon. Bitange Ndemo, member — Former Permanent Secretary, Kenyan Ministry of Information and Communication
ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem Alice Munyua , Member— Chair of the Kenya Internet Governance Steering Committee.
Congrats to our own who continue to represent us in the international landscape.
Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Date: 16 October 2013 20:16 Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members To: AfrICANN list <africann@afrinic.net>
Congrats to the Many members of AfrICANN on the ICANN Strategy panels. Ndemo, Nii, Munyua, Adiel.
We look forward to you to do a superb job.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 16 October 2013 01:26, Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@icann.org> wrote:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-14oct13-en.htm
ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members****
14 October 2013****
ICANN welcomes over 40 diverse practitioners, subject matter experts, and thought leaders as members of the ICANN Strategy Panels< http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-15jul13-en.htm>to support development of ICANN's strategic and operational plans. ****
ICANN Strategy Panels will serve as an integral part of a framework for cross-community dialogue on strategic matters. Designed to conduct work in critical strategic areas identified by the community, Board, and staff< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/conversation-inp... [PDF, 209 KB], the work of these panels will build on public input being generated to inform a new, overarching vision and five-year strategic plan. As illustrated< http://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/strategy-panels-timeline-1400x667-1... , there will be extensive information sharing and community engagement with the Panels. Panel output will be posted for public comments and community discussion online and at ICANN meetings, before being factored into ICANN's strategic and/or operating plans<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement>, as appropriate.****
A video interview with Theresa Swinehart, Senior Advisor to the President on Strategy, is available here< http://www.icann.org/en/news/press/kits/video-swinehart-strategy-14oct13-en....
.**** Identifier Technology Innovation< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-techn...
**** *Chair*****
Paul Mockapetris< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#paul-mockap... — Inventor, Domain Name System **** *Members*****
Jari Arkko< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-techn... — Chair, Internet Engineering Task Force Anne-Marie Eklund-Löwinder< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-techn... — Security Manager, The Internet Infrastructure Foundation Geoff Huston< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-techn... — Chief Scientist, Asia-Pacific Network Information Center James Seng< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-techn... — CEO, Zodiac Holdings Paul Vixie< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-techn... — CEO, Farsight Security Lixia Zhang< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-techn... — Postel Chair of Computer Science, University of California Los Angeles ****
This panel is dedicated to strategizing engagement with the ICANN community and public on technology matters. Its objectives include developing a technology roadmap for DNS and other identifiers, and providing a technology roadmap for ICANN technical and security operations, including best practice recommendations and reference objects.**** ICANN Multistakeholder Innovation< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder...
**** *Chair*****
Beth Simone Noveck< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#beth-simone... — Founder and Director, The Governance Lab **** *Members*****
Alison Gillwald< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder... — Executive Director, Research ICT Africa Joi Ito< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder... — Director, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Media Lab Karim Lakhani< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder... — Lumry Family Associate Professor of Business Administration, Harvard University Guo Liang< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder... — Director, China Internet Project Geoff Mulgan< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder... — Chief Executive, National Endowment for Science Technology and the Arts Hon. Bitange Ndemo< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder... — Permanent Secretary, Kenyan Ministry of Information and Communication ****
This panel is tasked with examining how Internet policy related to unique identifiers might be best managed. It will propose new models for broad, inclusive engagement, consensus-based policymaking, and institutional structures to support such enhanced functions. In addition, it will design processes, tools and platforms to enable the global ICANN community to engage in these new forms of participatory decision-making.**** Public Responsibility Framework< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsib...
**** *Chair*****
Nii Quaynor< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#nii-quaynor — Founding Chairman, AfriNIC **** *Members*****
Tim Berners-Lee< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsib... — Director, World Wide Web Consortium Soumitra Dutta< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsib... — Dean of Johnson Graduate School of Management, Cornell University Bob Hinden< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsib... — Check Point Fellow, Check Point Software Technologies Blake Irving< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsib... — CEO, Go Daddy Nevine Tewfik< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsib... — Director, Cyber Peace Initiative Raúl Zambrano< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsib... — Team Leader, Inclusive Participation and Global Policy Adviser in the ICT for Development and e-governance team, United Nations Development Program ****
This panel will propose ICANN's role and five-year strategic objectives and milestones in promoting the global public interest. It will examine ways of building out ICANN's base of internationally diverse, knowledgeable and engaged stakeholders, especially within the developing world. It will also propose a framework for achieving those objectives and milestones as well providing advice on specific programs and initiatives.**** ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy...
**** *Chair*****
Vinton Cerf< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#vinton-cerf — VP and Chief Internet Evangelist, Google **** *Members*****
Adiel Akplogan< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — CEO, AfriNIC Ltd Michael Barrett< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — President, The FIDO Alliance Hartmut Glaser< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Executive Secretary, Brazilian Internet Steering Committee/CGI.br Erik Huizer< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Chief Technology Officer, SURFnet Hagen Hultzsch< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy...
— Zimory Chairman of the Board Janis Karklins< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Assistant Director General of Communication and Information, United Nations Educational, Scientific & Cultural Organization Wolfgang Kleinwächter< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Professor of International Communication Policy and Regulation, University of Aarhus Luis Magalhães< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Professor at * *Instituto Superior Técnico, Technical University of Lisbon Debbie Monahan< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Domain Names Commissioner, Domain Name Commission Ltd, part of the InternetNZ Group Alice Munyua< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Chair of the Kenya Internet Governance Steering Committee P.J. Narayanan< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Director, Hyderabad International Institute of Information Technology Alejandro Pisanty< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Director General, Academic Computing Service of the National University of Mexico Carlton Samuels< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Former Secretariat, Latin America and Caribbean Regional At-Large Advisory Organization Ismail Serageldin< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Director, Library of Alexandria Pindar Wong< http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosy... — Chairman, Asia and Pacific Internet Association ****
The previously announced< http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-15jul13-en.htm "Strategy Panel on ICANN's Role in the Internet Organizations' Ecosystem" and the "Strategy Panel on the Role of ICANN in the Future of Internet Governance" have been integrated given the topics, and are now covered under this Strategy Panel on "ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem." This panel will review the assumptions, linkages and frameworks that dictate ICANN's responsibilities in the current Internet ecosystem. It will seek insights into ways to maintain and enhance ICANN's stewardship of the evolving ecosystem while cultivating thought leadership on ways in which ICANN can serve a complex set of Internet constituencies.****
The 5th panel originally identified will be refocused and is expected to be forthcoming later this year****
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Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat *gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org* *http://gnso.icann.org*****
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Alex, On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Its interesting and frustrating as well. ICANN system architects design it to choke global public interest while fronting an "open participation" façade. when in reality it is controlled by an over represented bunch of Intellectual Property private interests
Can you name one person on any of these panels that represents IP interests? and their handsomely rewarded
'activists'.
Let's face it, infuriates to see some Africans pipers "participating" motivated by promises of air tickets and some travel allowances thus go there to sing a pre-set tune chorus tune -- praising whomever calls the tune and pays the piper.
I thought they were there to actually change the tune! -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
Thoroughly associate myself with Prof. Milton Mueller on below.
regards,
Alex
--------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Milton L Mueller <mueller@syr.edu> Date: Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Fadi's strategy panels To: Jorge Amodio <jmamodio@gmail.com>, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> Cc: "ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" <ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org>
Ignore them, and they will go away.
These panels not only have no legitimacy, there is really no clear explanation for why we need them and what they will do that meets a need defined by CANN's actual constituencies and communities.
The idea that a group of 6 people led by someone who has never spent a minute in ICANN's process or in the formulation or analysis of DNS policy is going to make major reforms in process strikes me as especially ridiculous.
--MM
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
This is an interesting debate Gakuru, especially now that Brazil announced plans to build their own internet after the Snowden affair. ICANN through Fadi saw it fit to have a high level Internet Governance meeting with the representatives of BRICS to allay fears over the US-centric internet and demonstrate that they are dedicated to the Multistakeholder approach. The civil society more prominently IGC are ensuring that they are well represented and that they also get to set the agenda of that meeting. But it has been noted that since President Rousseff will be running for re-election just about that time, she might not be upto the task.
It will be interesting to see how things will shape up.
On 16/10/2013, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Read alongside:A blueprint for the future oversight of ICANN ... We respectfully suggest that the Rio meeting must *not* be organized as a parade of ”leaders” on a podium purporting to speak for the public. Let the meeting be open to anyone and everyone with a serious stake in the accountability of ICANN and its relationship to the U.S. and other governments. Let it have an open process for submitting, deliberating upon and expressing support for or opposition to specific proposals. Let us also not forget that ICANN and its oversight are the main topic of the meeting, which suggests that ICANN’s staff should not be playing a major role in setting the agenda for the meeting; ICANN has a bit of a conflict of interest in that regard. We must not allow ICANN to use its escape from the USG to escape all accountability. Ideas should be solicited widely, not from an assemblage of leaders hand-picked by the institution being governed. Let any dialogue on transition emerge openly from civil society, industry and governments and let them determine their own representation in the Rio event. That is the essence of “bottom up, multistakeholder” governance. ..
http://www.internetgovernance.org/2013/10/16/a-blueprint-for-the-future-over...
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
ICANN has released the members of the strategic panels formed in ICANN47 Durban. and two Kenyans are members of the panels.
ICANN Multistakeholder Innovation Hon. Bitange Ndemo, member — Former Permanent Secretary, Kenyan Ministry of Information and Communication
ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem Alice Munyua , Member— Chair of the Kenya Internet Governance Steering Committee.
Congrats to our own who continue to represent us in the international landscape.
Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
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Congrats to the Many members of AfrICANN on the ICANN Strategy panels. Ndemo, Nii, Munyua, Adiel.
We look forward to you to do a superb job.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 16 October 2013 01:26, Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@icann.org> wrote:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-14oct13-en.htm ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members****
14 October 2013****
ICANN welcomes over 40 diverse practitioners, subject matter experts, and thought leaders as members of the ICANN Strategy
Panels<http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-15jul13-en.htm>to support development of ICANN's strategic and operational plans. ****
ICANN Strategy Panels will serve as an integral part of a framework for cross-community dialogue on strategic matters. Designed to conduct work in critical strategic areas identified by the community, Board, and
staff<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/conversation-input-24jun13-en.pdf>[PDF, 209 KB], the work of these panels will build on public input being generated to inform a new, overarching vision and five-year strategic plan. As
illustrated<http://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/strategy-panels-timeline-1400x667-14oct13-en.png>, there will be extensive information sharing and community engagement with the Panels. Panel output will be posted for public comments and community discussion online and at ICANN meetings, before being factored into ICANN's strategic and/or operating plans<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement>, as appropriate.****
A video interview with Theresa Swinehart, Senior Advisor to the President on Strategy, is available
here<http://www.icann.org/en/news/press/kits/video-swinehart-strategy-14oct13-en.htm> .**** Identifier Technology
Innovation<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology> **** *Chair*****
Paul
Mockapetris<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#paul-mockapetris>— Inventor, Domain Name System **** *Members*****
Jari
Arkko<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#arkko>— Chair, Internet Engineering Task Force Anne-Marie
Eklund-Löwinder<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#eklund-lowinder>— Security Manager, The Internet Infrastructure Foundation Geoff
Huston<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#huston>— Chief Scientist, Asia-Pacific Network Information Center James
Seng<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#seng>— CEO, Zodiac Holdings Paul
Vixie<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#vixie>— CEO, Farsight Security Lixia
Zhang<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/identifier-technology/bios#zhang>— Postel Chair of Computer Science, University of California Los Angeles ****
This panel is dedicated to strategizing engagement with the ICANN community and public on technology matters. Its objectives include developing a technology roadmap for DNS and other identifiers, and providing a technology roadmap for ICANN technical and security operations, including best practice recommendations and reference objects.**** ICANN Multistakeholder
Innovation<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation> **** *Chair*****
Beth Simone
Noveck<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#beth-simone-noveck>— Founder and Director, The Governance Lab **** *Members*****
Alison
Gillwald<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#gillwald>— Executive Director, Research ICT Africa Joi
Ito<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#ito>— Director, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Media Lab Karim
Lakhani<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#lakhani>— Lumry Family Associate Professor of Business Administration, Harvard University Guo
Liang<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#liang>— Director, China Internet Project Geoff
Mulgan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#mulgan>— Chief Executive, National Endowment for Science Technology and the Arts Hon. Bitange
Ndemo<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/multistakeholder-innovation/bios#ndemo>— Permanent Secretary, Kenyan Ministry of Information and Communication ****
This panel is tasked with examining how Internet policy related to unique identifiers might be best managed. It will propose new models for broad, inclusive engagement, consensus-based policymaking, and institutional structures to support such enhanced functions. In addition, it will design processes, tools and platforms to enable the global ICANN community to engage in these new forms of participatory decision-making.**** Public Responsibility
Framework<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility> **** *Chair*****
Nii
Quaynor<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#nii-quaynor>— Founding Chairman, AfriNIC **** *Members*****
Tim
Berners-Lee<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#berners-lee>— Director, World Wide Web Consortium Soumitra
Dutta<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#dutta>— Dean of Johnson Graduate School of Management, Cornell University Bob
Hinden<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#hinden>— Check Point Fellow, Check Point Software Technologies Blake
Irving<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#irving>— CEO, Go Daddy Nevine
Tewfik<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#tewfik>— Director, Cyber Peace Initiative Raúl
Zambrano<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/public-responsibility/bios#zambrano>— Team Leader, Inclusive Participation and Global Policy Adviser in the ICT for Development and e-governance team, United Nations Development Program ****
This panel will propose ICANN's role and five-year strategic objectives and milestones in promoting the global public interest. It will examine ways of building out ICANN's base of internationally diverse, knowledgeable and engaged stakeholders, especially within the developing world. It will also propose a framework for achieving those objectives and milestones as well providing advice on specific programs and initiatives.**** ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance
Ecosystem<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem> **** *Chair*****
Vinton
Cerf<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/bios#vinton-cerf>— VP and Chief Internet Evangelist, Google **** *Members*****
Adiel
Akplogan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#akplogan>— CEO, AfriNIC Ltd Michael
Barrett<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#barrett>— President, The FIDO Alliance Hartmut
Glaser<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#glaser>— Executive Secretary, Brazilian Internet Steering Committee/CGI.br Erik
Huizer<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#huizer>— Chief Technology Officer, SURFnet Hagen
Hultzsch<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#hultzsch> — Zimory Chairman of the Board Janis
Karklins<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#karklins>— Assistant Director General of Communication and Information, United Nations Educational, Scientific & Cultural Organization Wolfgang
Kleinwächter<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#kleinwachter>— Professor of International Communication Policy and Regulation, University of Aarhus Luis
Magalhães<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#magalhaes>— Professor at * *Instituto Superior Técnico, Technical University of Lisbon Debbie
Monahan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#monahan>— Domain Names Commissioner, Domain Name Commission Ltd, part of the InternetNZ Group Alice
Munyua<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#munyua>— Chair of the Kenya Internet Governance Steering Committee P.J.
Narayanan<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#narayanan>— Director, Hyderabad International Institute of Information Technology Alejandro
Pisanty<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#pisanty>— Director General, Academic Computing Service of the National University of Mexico Carlton
Samuels<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#samuels>— Former Secretariat, Latin America and Caribbean Regional At-Large Advisory Organization Ismail
Serageldin<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#serageldin>— Director, Library of Alexandria Pindar
Wong<http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic-engagement/governance-ecosystem/bios#wong>— Chairman, Asia and Pacific Internet Association ****
The previously
announced<http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-15jul13-en.htm>"Strategy Panel on ICANN's Role in the Internet Organizations' Ecosystem" and the "Strategy Panel on the Role of ICANN in the Future of Internet Governance" have been integrated given the topics, and are now covered under this Strategy Panel on "ICANN's Role in the Internet Governance Ecosystem." This panel will review the assumptions, linkages and frameworks that dictate ICANN's responsibilities in the current Internet ecosystem. It will seek insights into ways to maintain and enhance ICANN's stewardship of the evolving ecosystem while cultivating thought leadership on ways in which ICANN can serve a complex set of Internet constituencies.****
The 5th panel originally identified will be refocused and is expected to be forthcoming later this year****
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I choose not to personalize. Change by individuals handpicked by ICANN staff? Who voted them in? On Thursday, October 17, 2013, McTim wrote:
Alex,
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com<javascript:;>> wrote:
Its interesting and frustrating as well. ICANN system architects design it to choke global public interest while fronting an "open participation" façade. when in reality it is controlled by an over represented bunch of Intellectual Property private interests
Can you name one person on any of these panels that represents IP interests?
and their handsomely rewarded
'activists'.
Let's face it, infuriates to see some Africans pipers "participating" motivated by promises of air tickets and some travel allowances thus go there to sing a pre-set tune chorus tune -- praising whomever calls the tune and pays the piper.
I thought they were there to actually change the tune!
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
Thoroughly associate myself with Prof. Milton Mueller on below.
regards,
Alex
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Ignore them, and they will go away.
These panels not only have no legitimacy, there is really no clear explanation for why we need them and what they will do that meets a need defined by CANN's actual constituencies and communities.
The idea that a group of 6 people led by someone who has never spent a minute in ICANN's process or in the formulation or analysis of DNS
policy is
going to make major reforms in process strikes me as especially ridiculous.
--MM
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
This is an interesting debate Gakuru, especially now that Brazil announced plans to build their own internet after the Snowden affair. ICANN through Fadi saw it fit to have a high level Internet Governance meeting with the representatives of BRICS to allay fears over the US-centric internet and demonstrate that they are dedicated to the Multistakeholder approach. The civil society more prominently IGC are ensuring that they are well represented and that they also get to set the agenda of that meeting. But it has been noted that since President Rousseff will be running for re-election just about that time, she might not be upto the task.
It will be interesting to see how things will shape up.
On 16/10/2013, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Read alongside:A blueprint for the future oversight of ICANN ... We respectfully suggest that the Rio meeting must *not* be organized
as
a parade of ”leaders” on a podium purporting to speak for the public. Let the meeting be open to anyone and everyone with a serious stake in the accountability of ICANN and its relationship to the U.S. and other governments. Let it have an open process for submitting, deliberating upon and expressing support for or opposition to specific proposals. Let us also not forget that ICANN and its oversight are the main topic of the meeting, which suggests that ICANN’s staff should not be playing a major role in setting the agenda for the meeting; ICANN has a bit of a conflict of interest in that regard. We must not allow ICANN to use its escape from the USG to escape all accountability. Ideas should be solicited widely, not from an assemblage of leaders hand-picked by the institution being governed. Let any dialogue on transition emerge openly from civil society, industry and governments and let them determine their own representation in the Rio event. That is the essence of “bottom up, multistakeholder” governance. ..
http://www.internetgovernance.org/2013/10/16/a-blueprint-for-the-future-over...
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Alex, On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
I choose not to personalize.
"Let's face it, infuriates to see some Africans pipers "participating" motivated by promises of air tickets and some travel allowances thus go there to sing a pre-set tune chorus tune -- praising whomever calls the tune and pays the piper." Sounds pretty personal to me. Look again at the list of people involved. There aren't any IP interests involved. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
One could also ask what your personal interest and role in ever defending the status quo really is? hebu fafanua? On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:30 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
Alex,
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
I choose not to personalize.
"Let's face it, infuriates to see some Africans pipers "participating" motivated by promises of air tickets and some travel allowances thus go there to sing a pre-set tune chorus tune -- praising whomever calls the tune and pays the piper."
Sounds pretty personal to me.
Look again at the list of people involved. There aren't any IP interests involved.
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
Alex, On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
One could also ask what your personal interest and role in ever defending the status quo really is?
I have zero financial interest in any company that deals with domain names or any aspect of keeping the "status quo" intact (and by that I suspect you mean the NTIA/IANA contract). I defend what currently works in favor of something untried and untested. I am happy to support change pole pole, but not radical revolutionary changes to Internet Governance that would make the Internet less stable. My main "interest" is in factual dialogue. I pointed out where your remarks were counterfactual, yet you fail to address that issue. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
Everyone is equally entitled to own beliefs, opinion and expression best stated devoid of inferiority or superiority complex. Simply proclaiming being "factual" (or even "truthful") ignores questions -- whose facts? whose truth? and in whose world? On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:39 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
Alex,
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
One could also ask what your personal interest and role in ever defending the status quo really is?
I have zero financial interest in any company that deals with domain names or any aspect of keeping the "status quo" intact (and by that I suspect you mean the NTIA/IANA contract).
I defend what currently works in favor of something untried and untested. I am happy to support change pole pole, but not radical revolutionary changes to Internet Governance that would make the Internet less stable.
My main "interest" is in factual dialogue. I pointed out where your remarks were counterfactual, yet you fail to address that issue.
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone is equally entitled to own beliefs, opinion and expression best stated devoid of inferiority or superiority complex.
correct, but not your own facts.
Simply proclaiming being "factual" (or even "truthful") ignores questions -- whose facts? whose truth? and in whose world?
Look at the list of people on the panels. None of them are IP lawyers or involved in IP protection. That is a fact to all, in this world. I would be happy to say I'm wrong if you can point to anyone on any of the panels and tell me they represent IP interests. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
At least be decided on a universal fundamental? Reasonably believing that have demonstrated that:-- a) shed bright light on purported "local" voices, b) stand by my initial email which provoked you, c) act against subdued, legitimate local voice, d) get personal only when and with whom I wish. Be that as it may, type the last email if it so pleases you. On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:04 AM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone is equally entitled to own beliefs, opinion and expression best stated devoid of inferiority or superiority complex.
correct, but not your own facts.
Simply proclaiming being "factual" (or even "truthful") ignores
questions --
whose facts? whose truth? and in whose world?
Look at the list of people on the panels. None of them are IP lawyers or involved in IP protection. That is a fact to all, in this world.
I would be happy to say I'm wrong if you can point to anyone on any of the panels and tell me they represent IP interests.
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
relax @Alex, worst case scenario is that the two would be "selling" the Kenyan brand on an international stage- even if they slept through their appointment. furthermore, i would rather an "illegally" appointed Kenyan than no Kenyan at all -theory of a bird in hand is better than two in the bush :-). finally remember that these appointments are not restricted to Kenyans only and am sure other global citizens would be glad to take them up asap in case anyone declines. that said, maybe we shall task these two Kenyans to pass your message in the first meeting, requesting that future appointments on such panels are done more "openly, transparently and bottom-up". walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 10/18/13, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members - Two Kenyans on the list To: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com> Cc: "Milton L Mueller" <mueller@syr.edu>, "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> Date: Friday, October 18, 2013, 1:55 AM At least be decided on a universal fundamental? Reasonably believing that have demonstrated that:-- a) shed bright light on purported "local" voices, b) stand by my initial email which provoked you, c) act against subdued, legitimate local voice, d) get personal only when and with whom I wish. Be that as it may, type the last email if it so pleases you. On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:04 AM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote: On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone is equally entitled to own beliefs, opinion and expression best
stated devoid of inferiority or superiority complex.
correct, but not your own facts.
Simply proclaiming being "factual" (or even "truthful") ignores questions --
whose facts? whose truth? and in whose world?
Look at the list of people on the panels. None of them are IP lawyers or involved in IP protection. That is a fact to all, in this world. I would be happy to say I'm wrong if you can point to anyone on any of the panels and tell me they represent IP interests. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
Everyone interested in continuing under this thread please remove Milton from copy. Thank you. [Sent from my tiny screen wireless device. Excuse mobile brevity and or unintended typos] On Oct 18, 2013 2:42 PM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
relax @Alex,
worst case scenario is that the two would be "selling" the Kenyan brand on an international stage- even if they slept through their appointment. furthermore, i would rather an "illegally" appointed Kenyan than no Kenyan at all -theory of a bird in hand is better than two in the bush :-).
finally remember that these appointments are not restricted to Kenyans only and am sure other global citizens would be glad to take them up asap in case anyone declines.
that said, maybe we shall task these two Kenyans to pass your message in the first meeting, requesting that future appointments on such panels are done more "openly, transparently and bottom-up".
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 10/18/13, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members - Two Kenyans on the list To: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com> Cc: "Milton L Mueller" <mueller@syr.edu>, "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Friday, October 18, 2013, 1:55 AM
At least be decided on a universal fundamental?
Reasonably believing that have demonstrated that:--
a) shed bright light on purported "local" voices,
b) stand by my initial email which provoked you,
c) act against subdued, legitimate local voice, d) get personal only when and with whom I wish.
Be that as it may, type the last email if it so pleases you.
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:04 AM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone is equally entitled to own beliefs, opinion and expression best
stated devoid of inferiority or superiority complex.
correct, but not your own facts.
Simply proclaiming being "factual" (or even "truthful") ignores questions --
whose facts? whose truth? and in whose world?
Look at the list of people on the panels. None of them are IP lawyers
or involved in IP protection. That is a fact to all, in this world.
I would be happy to say I'm wrong if you can point to anyone on any of
the panels and tell me they represent IP interests.
--
Cheers,
McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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Actually Walu, according to me, those members selected have great credentials in the respective panel they are representing. Most are respected across the spectrum of thheir respective fileds. Rolling out names like Tim Berners-Lee, Paul Mockapetris, Vinton Cerf and our own Bitange Ndemo is no joke. Change has to come from somewhere, and probably it's on the way. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 18 October 2013 14:42, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
relax @Alex,
worst case scenario is that the two would be "selling" the Kenyan brand on an international stage- even if they slept through their appointment. furthermore, i would rather an "illegally" appointed Kenyan than no Kenyan at all -theory of a bird in hand is better than two in the bush :-).
finally remember that these appointments are not restricted to Kenyans only and am sure other global citizens would be glad to take them up asap in case anyone declines.
that said, maybe we shall task these two Kenyans to pass your message in the first meeting, requesting that future appointments on such panels are done more "openly, transparently and bottom-up".
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 10/18/13, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members - Two Kenyans on the list To: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com> Cc: "Milton L Mueller" <mueller@syr.edu>, "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Friday, October 18, 2013, 1:55 AM
At least be decided on a universal fundamental?
Reasonably believing that have demonstrated that:--
a) shed bright light on purported "local" voices,
b) stand by my initial email which provoked you,
c) act against subdued, legitimate local voice, d) get personal only when and with whom I wish.
Be that as it may, type the last email if it so pleases you.
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:04 AM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone is equally entitled to own beliefs, opinion and expression best
stated devoid of inferiority or superiority complex.
correct, but not your own facts.
Simply proclaiming being "factual" (or even "truthful") ignores questions --
whose facts? whose truth? and in whose world?
Look at the list of people on the panels. None of them are IP lawyers
or involved in IP protection. That is a fact to all, in this world.
I would be happy to say I'm wrong if you can point to anyone on any of
the panels and tell me they represent IP interests.
--
Cheers,
McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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Mwendwa, I agree. Perhaps at the IGF in Bali!? -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Actually Walu, according to me, those members selected have great credentials in the respective panel they are representing. Most are respected across the spectrum of thheir respective fileds. Rolling out names like Tim Berners-Lee, Paul Mockapetris, Vinton Cerf and our own Bitange Ndemo is no joke. Change has to come from somewhere, and probably it's on the way.
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 18 October 2013 14:42, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
relax @Alex,
worst case scenario is that the two would be "selling" the Kenyan brand on an international stage- even if they slept through their appointment. furthermore, i would rather an "illegally" appointed Kenyan than no Kenyan at all -theory of a bird in hand is better than two in the bush :-).
finally remember that these appointments are not restricted to Kenyans only and am sure other global citizens would be glad to take them up asap in case anyone declines.
that said, maybe we shall task these two Kenyans to pass your message in the first meeting, requesting that future appointments on such panels are done more "openly, transparently and bottom-up".
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 10/18/13, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members - Two Kenyans on the list To: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com> Cc: "Milton L Mueller" <mueller@syr.edu>, "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Friday, October 18, 2013, 1:55 AM
At least be decided on a universal fundamental?
Reasonably believing that have demonstrated that:--
a) shed bright light on purported "local" voices,
b) stand by my initial email which provoked you,
c) act against subdued, legitimate local voice, d) get personal only when and with whom I wish.
Be that as it may, type the last email if it so pleases you.
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:04 AM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone is equally entitled to own beliefs, opinion and expression best
stated devoid of inferiority or superiority complex.
correct, but not your own facts.
Simply proclaiming being "factual" (or even "truthful") ignores questions --
whose facts? whose truth? and in whose world?
Look at the list of people on the panels. None of them are IP lawyers
or involved in IP protection. That is a fact to all, in this world.
I would be happy to say I'm wrong if you can point to anyone on any of
the panels and tell me they represent IP interests.
--
Cheers,
McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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On Oct 19, 2013, at 1:09 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Actually Walu, according to me, those members selected have great credentials in the respective panel they are representing. Most are respected across the spectrum of thheir respective fileds. Rolling out names like Tim Berners-Lee, Paul Mockapetris, Vinton Cerf and our own Bitange Ndemo is no joke. Change has to come from somewhere, and probably it's on the way.
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 18 October 2013 14:42, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: relax @Alex,
worst case scenario is that the two would be "selling" the Kenyan brand on an international stage- even if they slept through their appointment. furthermore, i would rather an "illegally" appointed Kenyan than no Kenyan at all -theory of a bird in hand is better than two in the bush :-).
finally remember that these appointments are not restricted to Kenyans only and am sure other global citizens would be glad to take them up asap in case anyone declines.
that said, maybe we shall task these two Kenyans to pass your message in the first meeting, requesting that future appointments on such panels are done more "openly, transparently and bottom-up".
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 10/18/13, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members - Two Kenyans on the list To: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com> Cc: "Milton L Mueller" <mueller@syr.edu>, "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> Date: Friday, October 18, 2013, 1:55 AM
At least be decided on a universal fundamental?
Reasonably believing that have demonstrated that:--
a) shed bright light on purported "local" voices,
b) stand by my initial email which provoked you,
c) act against subdued, legitimate local voice, d) get personal only when and with whom I wish.
Be that as it may, type the last email if it so pleases you.
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:04 AM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone is equally entitled to own beliefs, opinion and expression best
stated devoid of inferiority or superiority complex.
correct, but not your own facts.
Simply proclaiming being "factual" (or even "truthful") ignores questions --
whose facts? whose truth? and in whose world?
Look at the list of people on the panels. None of them are IP lawyers
or involved in IP protection. That is a fact to all, in this world.
I would be happy to say I'm wrong if you can point to anyone on any of
the panels and tell me they represent IP interests.
--
Cheers,
McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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