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On Oct 19, 2013, at 1:09 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

Actually Walu, according to me, those members selected have great credentials in the respective panel they are representing. Most are respected across the spectrum of thheir respective fileds. Rolling out names like Tim Berners-Lee, Paul Mockapetris, Vinton Cerf and our own Bitange Ndemo is no joke. Change has to come from somewhere, and probably it's on the way.

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On 18 October 2013 14:42, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
relax @Alex,

worst case scenario is that the two would be "selling" the Kenyan brand on an international stage- even if they slept through their appointment. furthermore, i would rather an "illegally" appointed Kenyan than no Kenyan at all -theory of a bird in hand is better than two in the bush :-).

finally remember that these appointments are not restricted to Kenyans only and am sure other global citizens would be glad to take them up asap in case anyone declines.

that said, maybe we shall task these two Kenyans to pass your message in the first meeting, requesting that future appointments on such panels are done more "openly, transparently and bottom-up".

walu.
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On Fri, 10/18/13, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] ICANN Announces Strategy Panel Members - Two Kenyans on the list
 To: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com>
 Cc: "Milton L Mueller" <mueller@syr.edu>, "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>
 Date: Friday, October 18, 2013, 1:55 AM

 At least be decided
 on a universal fundamental?



 Reasonably believing that have demonstrated that:--

 a) shed bright light on
 purported "local" voices,


 b) stand by my initial email
 which provoked you,  

 c) act against subdued, legitimate local voice,
 d) get personal only when and with whom I wish.


 Be that as it may, type the last email if it so pleases
 you.

 On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at
 1:04 AM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com>
 wrote:


 On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Alex
 Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com>
 wrote:



 > Everyone is equally entitled to own beliefs, opinion
 and expression best

 > stated devoid of inferiority or superiority complex.



 correct, but not your own facts.

 >

 > Simply proclaiming being "factual" (or even
 "truthful") ignores questions --

 > whose facts? whose truth? and in whose world?



 Look at the list of people on the panels.  None of
 them are IP lawyers

 or involved in IP protection. That is a fact to all, in this
 world.



 I would be happy to say I'm wrong if you can point to
 anyone on any of

 the panels and tell me they represent IP interests.



 --

 Cheers,



 McTim

 "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates
 where it is. A

 route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel




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