
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.

ok its ironical...you left work and your looking for work On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com>wrote:
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Utter, utter uncalled for my man. We all have different reasons for leaving employment to seek other opportunities. The least you can do in this list is give encouragement to job seekers. On 11 October 2010 19:14, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
ok its ironical...you left work and your looking for work
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com>wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
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I agree. I think it's more comely behaviour to help where one can than to divert the course of the thread to some discussion that isn't really helpful to anyone. Anyway, that's just one of my many opinions which no one is obligated to agree with. Me. On 11 October 2010 19:43, Net Caster <madungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Utter, utter uncalled for my man. We all have different reasons for leaving employment to seek other opportunities. The least you can do in this list is give encouragement to job seekers.
On 11 October 2010 19:14, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
ok its ironical...you left work and your looking for work
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com>wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
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Come on guys, lighten up. I dont think Joseph meant to be mean. Despite the reasons and circumstances, its still ironical. Funny ironical. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
I agree. I think it's more comely behaviour to help where one can than to divert the course of the thread to some discussion that isn't really helpful to anyone.
Anyway, that's just one of my many opinions which no one is obligated to agree with.
Me.
On 11 October 2010 19:43, Net Caster <madungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Utter, utter uncalled for my man. We all have different reasons for leaving employment to seek other opportunities. The least you can do in this list is give encouragement to job seekers.
On 11 October 2010 19:14, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
ok its ironical...you left work and your looking for work
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com>wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
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Am sorry I didnt mean to discourage the jobseeker...i just made an observation. All the best for the job seeker On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com>wrote:
Come on guys, lighten up. I dont think Joseph meant to be mean. Despite the reasons and circumstances, its still ironical. Funny ironical.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
I agree. I think it's more comely behaviour to help where one can than to divert the course of the thread to some discussion that isn't really helpful to anyone.
Anyway, that's just one of my many opinions which no one is obligated to agree with.
Me.
On 11 October 2010 19:43, Net Caster <madungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Utter, utter uncalled for my man. We all have different reasons for leaving employment to seek other opportunities. The least you can do in this list is give encouragement to job seekers.
On 11 October 2010 19:14, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
ok its ironical...you left work and your looking for work
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com
wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
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Rachel, A few minutes after you started this thread, Crystal made an appeal for interns. Perhaps you could look for that mail and see if it interests you (if it's still available) 2010/10/11 Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>
Am sorry I didnt mean to discourage the jobseeker...i just made an observation.
All the best for the job seeker
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com>wrote:
Come on guys, lighten up. I dont think Joseph meant to be mean. Despite the reasons and circumstances, its still ironical. Funny ironical.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
I agree. I think it's more comely behaviour to help where one can than to divert the course of the thread to some discussion that isn't really helpful to anyone.
Anyway, that's just one of my many opinions which no one is obligated to agree with.
Me.
On 11 October 2010 19:43, Net Caster <madungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Utter, utter uncalled for my man. We all have different reasons for leaving employment to seek other opportunities. The least you can do in this list is give encouragement to job seekers.
On 11 October 2010 19:14, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
ok its ironical...you left work and your looking for work
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, rachel tati < racheltatirachel@gmail.com> wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
Am sorry I didnt mean to discourage the jobseeker...i just made an observation.
All the best for the job seeker
I doubt the jobseeker can do anything. Take me to be gross, but such an application as hers is not worth any consideration, unless the ICT field is like Gikomba where you can sell anything and everything. What does she mean by "*any any IT related job*"? What job category is that? If someone needs a job, they need to be a little bit more serious than this jobseeker. I wonder if, in her true mind, she was addressing potential employers. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work Me thots; though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote: Am sorry I didnt mean to discourage the jobseeker...i just made an observation.
All the best for the job seeker
I doubt the jobseeker can do anything. Take me to be gross, but such an application as hers is not worth any consideration, unless the ICT field is like Gikomba where you can sell anything and everything. What does she mean by "any any IT related job"? What job category is that?
If someone needs a job, they need to be a little bit more serious than this jobseeker. I wonder if, in her true mind, she was addressing potential employers.
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work
Me thots; though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way.
What job would you give her? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

I try to be as encouraging as i can at all times but this doesnt mean i dont tell you the truth. Rachel, with that kind of careless writing and phrasing of your statements, i wouldnt be ready to pay you to do anything. How you present yourself tells all about how you do your work - no, dont even show us one of the websites you have done.You have to impress whoever you are targeting - where is your CV/cover letter. Diploma in IT from JKUAT? Am an alumni of that campus and i can tell you mko wengi so package yourself well. In this field affirmative action is only implemented if you match up in skills and personality. Point 2 - In IT related careers the worst you can say about yourself is 'i can do anything in IT'. Pick a field you love and strengthen your skills there - then the jobs will follow you :) All the best in your job search. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com
wrote:
Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work
Me thots; though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way.
What job would you give her?
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Wothout discouraging her she needs an internship with a good mentor...all of us we're not any far much better than her at some point in our careers. Besides i think this is not an interview thread(If it were,too bad...may would have dropped her),let her be pls & hook her up with a placement if u can! [?] On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:47 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
I try to be as encouraging as i can at all times but this doesnt mean i dont tell you the truth. Rachel, with that kind of careless writing and phrasing of your statements, i wouldnt be ready to pay you to do anything. How you present yourself tells all about how you do your work - no, dont even show us one of the websites you have done.You have to impress whoever you are targeting - where is your CV/cover letter. Diploma in IT from JKUAT? Am an alumni of that campus and i can tell you mko wengi so package yourself well. In this field affirmative action is only implemented if you match up in skills and personality. Point 2 - In IT related careers the worst you can say about yourself is 'i can do anything in IT'. Pick a field you love and strengthen your skills there - then the jobs will follow you :) All the best in your job search.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Ndungu < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work
Me thots; though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way.
What job would you give her?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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Mentorship - that's the word. Perhaps we could look at how seasoned IT professionals could use the blog or other channel to guide the young ones in the industry in such matters as these. I think it'd be a plus to all, not just the industry entrants or if ya'll will allow me, n00bz :-) That's just a suggestion. P.S. I don't mean to run away from responsibility, but I don't consider myself a 'seasoned' IT professional yet :-) On 12/10/2010, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com> wrote:
Wothout discouraging her she needs an internship with a good mentor...all of us we're not any far much better than her at some point in our careers. Besides i think this is not an interview thread(If it were,too bad...may would have dropped her),let her be pls & hook her up with a placement if u can! [?]
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:47 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
I try to be as encouraging as i can at all times but this doesnt mean i dont tell you the truth. Rachel, with that kind of careless writing and phrasing of your statements, i wouldnt be ready to pay you to do anything. How you present yourself tells all about how you do your work - no, dont even show us one of the websites you have done.You have to impress whoever you are targeting - where is your CV/cover letter. Diploma in IT from JKUAT? Am an alumni of that campus and i can tell you mko wengi so package yourself well. In this field affirmative action is only implemented if you match up in skills and personality. Point 2 - In IT related careers the worst you can say about yourself is 'i can do anything in IT'. Pick a field you love and strengthen your skills there - then the jobs will follow you :) All the best in your job search.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work
Me thots; though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way.
What job would you give her?
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i agree with you Lawrence, none of us woke up and found ourselves in this field, we all learnt from someone at some point in life, i believe by encouraging her and guiding her in the right direction as nyarotho put it, albiet crudely, we are actually helping her out of what she has put herself in by quitting her job. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com>wrote:
Wothout discouraging her she needs an internship with a good mentor...all of us we're not any far much better than her at some point in our careers. Besides i think this is not an interview thread(If it were,too bad...may would have dropped her),let her be pls & hook her up with a placement if u can! [?]
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:47 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
I try to be as encouraging as i can at all times but this doesnt mean i dont tell you the truth. Rachel, with that kind of careless writing and phrasing of your statements, i wouldnt be ready to pay you to do anything. How you present yourself tells all about how you do your work - no, dont even show us one of the websites you have done.You have to impress whoever you are targeting - where is your CV/cover letter. Diploma in IT from JKUAT? Am an alumni of that campus and i can tell you mko wengi so package yourself well. In this field affirmative action is only implemented if you match up in skills and personality. Point 2 - In IT related careers the worst you can say about yourself is 'i can do anything in IT'. Pick a field you love and strengthen your skills there - then the jobs will follow you :) All the best in your job search.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Ndungu < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work
Me thots; though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way.
What job would you give her?
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To the Jobseeker, Like a few skunks have mentioned, please package your self properly, impress the employers and those who can recommend you in this fora. We need many different types of competences and if you can be a bit specific especially on the area you have mentioned of web development i have a few leads... So its your call impress us. Show us your worth in any area of interest and we could show you the way regards Oliver On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:27 AM, joel eliakim <joeliakim@gmail.com> wrote:
i agree with you Lawrence, none of us woke up and found ourselves in this field, we all learnt from someone at some point in life, i believe by encouraging her and guiding her in the right direction as nyarotho put it, albiet crudely, we are actually helping her out of what she has put herself in by quitting her job.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com>wrote:
Wothout discouraging her she needs an internship with a good mentor...all of us we're not any far much better than her at some point in our careers. Besides i think this is not an interview thread(If it were,too bad...may would have dropped her),let her be pls & hook her up with a placement if u can! [?]
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:47 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
I try to be as encouraging as i can at all times but this doesnt mean i dont tell you the truth. Rachel, with that kind of careless writing and phrasing of your statements, i wouldnt be ready to pay you to do anything. How you present yourself tells all about how you do your work - no, dont even show us one of the websites you have done.You have to impress whoever you are targeting - where is your CV/cover letter. Diploma in IT from JKUAT? Am an alumni of that campus and i can tell you mko wengi so package yourself well. In this field affirmative action is only implemented if you match up in skills and personality. Point 2 - In IT related careers the worst you can say about yourself is 'i can do anything in IT'. Pick a field you love and strengthen your skills there - then the jobs will follow you :) All the best in your job search.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Ndungu < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work
Me thots; though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way.
What job would you give her?
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I guess we are now confirming to her that list is not a serious one going by her casual employment request. Can someone on the list at least offer internship so she can learn what has been preached here!!!!!! From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Oliver Ndegwa Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:03 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] help me get a job To the Jobseeker, Like a few skunks have mentioned, please package your self properly, impress the employers and those who can recommend you in this fora. We need many different types of competences and if you can be a bit specific especially on the area you have mentioned of web development i have a few leads... So its your call impress us. Show us your worth in any area of interest and we could show you the way regards Oliver On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:27 AM, joel eliakim <joeliakim@gmail.com> wrote: i agree with you Lawrence, none of us woke up and found ourselves in this field, we all learnt from someone at some point in life, i believe by encouraging her and guiding her in the right direction as nyarotho put it, albiet crudely, we are actually helping her out of what she has put herself in by quitting her job. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com> wrote: Wothout discouraging her she needs an internship with a good mentor...all of us we're not any far much better than her at some point in our careers. Besides i think this is not an interview thread(If it were,too bad...may would have dropped her),let her be pls & hook her up with a placement if u can! On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:47 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote: I try to be as encouraging as i can at all times but this doesnt mean i dont tell you the truth. Rachel, with that kind of careless writing and phrasing of your statements, i wouldnt be ready to pay you to do anything. How you present yourself tells all about how you do your work - no, dont even show us one of the websites you have done.You have to impress whoever you are targeting - where is your CV/cover letter. Diploma in IT from JKUAT? Am an alumni of that campus and i can tell you mko wengi so package yourself well. In this field affirmative action is only implemented if you match up in skills and personality. Point 2 - In IT related careers the worst you can say about yourself is 'i can do anything in IT'. Pick a field you love and strengthen your skills there - then the jobs will follow you :) All the best in your job search. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote: Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work Me thots; though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way. What job would you give her? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1 fbjAwOUE&hl=en> &hl=en ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke <http://my.co.ke/> -- People should know when they are conquered. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f bjAwOUE <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1 fbjAwOUE&hl=en> &hl=en ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- No mountain is too high to keep you from Climbing it.... 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Am sure there IS someone on the list that can offer her an internship ....but in what ?? data entry ??? network cable crimping?? What ... what?? I think Oliver put it properly for her ... state you competencies and not only may she get an internship.... She may just get a job. I know am hiring web app developers but the language must be known Kind regards, Paul Mwachi -- iSys * Cape Office Park * Kilimani Ring Road * P O Box 17726 - 00100, Nairobi Kenya T (Off) +254 202 425 031 (Cell) +254 722 320187 E: paul@isys.co.ke * www.isys.co.ke Top Tier Software Developers - The Effective Process - Your Organization From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Tony Gacheru Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:16 PM To: 'Skunkworks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] help me get a job I guess we are now confirming to her that list is not a serious one going by her casual employment request. Can someone on the list at least offer internship so she can learn what has been preached here!!!!!! From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Oliver Ndegwa Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:03 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] help me get a job To the Jobseeker, Like a few skunks have mentioned, please package your self properly, impress the employers and those who can recommend you in this fora. We need many different types of competences and if you can be a bit specific especially on the area you have mentioned of web development i have a few leads... So its your call impress us. Show us your worth in any area of interest and we could show you the way regards Oliver On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:27 AM, joel eliakim <joeliakim@gmail.com<mailto:joeliakim@gmail.com>> wrote: i agree with you Lawrence, none of us woke up and found ourselves in this field, we all learnt from someone at some point in life, i believe by encouraging her and guiding her in the right direction as nyarotho put it, albiet crudely, we are actually helping her out of what she has put herself in by quitting her job. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com<mailto:lawrencekago@gmail.com>> wrote: Wothout discouraging her she needs an internship with a good mentor...all of us we're not any far much better than her at some point in our careers. Besides i think this is not an interview thread(If it were,too bad...may would have dropped her),let her be pls & hook her up with a placement if u can! [cid:image001.gif@01CB6A2A.49049980] On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:47 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com<mailto:kenyarotho@gmail.com>> wrote: I try to be as encouraging as i can at all times but this doesnt mean i dont tell you the truth. Rachel, with that kind of careless writing and phrasing of your statements, i wouldnt be ready to pay you to do anything. How you present yourself tells all about how you do your work - no, dont even show us one of the websites you have done.You have to impress whoever you are targeting - where is your CV/cover letter. Diploma in IT from JKUAT? Am an alumni of that campus and i can tell you mko wengi so package yourself well. In this field affirmative action is only implemented if you match up in skills and personality. Point 2 - In IT related careers the worst you can say about yourself is 'i can do anything in IT'. Pick a field you love and strengthen your skills there - then the jobs will follow you :) All the best in your job search. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com<mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com>> wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com<mailto:ndungustephen@gmail.com>> wrote: Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work Me thots; though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way. What job would you give her? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke<http://my.co.ke/> -- People should know when they are conquered. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- No mountain is too high to keep you from Climbing it.... Life is not about waiting for storms to pass....it's about learning how to dance in the rain,or even swim when necessary Lawrence K +254720784912 +254737103681 _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- "Change is the only constant"- Heraclitus _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Clearly she is not online,else she's have responded to the thread. Can someone give her a call,*Paul Mwachi* might consider her...waste no opportunity & skunks is there to help techies,why not her?. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Paul Mwachi <paul@isys.co.ke> wrote:
Am sure there IS someone on the list that can offer her an internship ….but in what ?? data entry ??? network cable crimping?? What … what??
I think Oliver put it properly for her … state you competencies and not only may she get an internship…. She may just get a job. I know am hiring web app developers but the language must be known
Kind regards,
Paul Mwachi
-- iSys · Cape Office Park · Kilimani Ring Road · P O Box 17726 - 00100, Nairobi Kenya T (Off) +254 202 425 031 (Cell) +254 722 320187 E: paul@isys.co.ke · www.isys.co.ke
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*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Tony Gacheru *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:16 PM
*To:* 'Skunkworks Mailing List' *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] help me get a job
I guess we are now confirming to her that list is not a serious one going by her casual employment request. Can someone on the list at least offer internship so she can learn what has been preached here!!!!!!
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Oliver Ndegwa *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:03 PM *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] help me get a job
To the Jobseeker,
Like a few skunks have mentioned, please package your self properly, impress the employers and those who can recommend you in this fora.
We need many different types of competences and if you can be a bit specific especially on the area you have mentioned of web development i have a few leads... So its your call impress us. Show us your worth in any area of interest and we could show you the way
regards
Oliver
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:27 AM, joel eliakim <joeliakim@gmail.com> wrote:
i agree with you Lawrence, none of us woke up and found ourselves in this field, we all learnt from someone at some point in life, i believe by encouraging her and guiding her in the right direction as nyarotho put it, albiet crudely, we are actually helping her out of what she has put herself in by quitting her job.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com> wrote:
Wothout discouraging her she needs an internship with a good mentor...all of us we're not any far much better than her at some point in our careers. Besides i think this is not an interview thread(If it were,too bad...may would have dropped her),let her be pls & hook her up with a placement if u can!
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:47 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
I try to be as encouraging as i can at all times but this doesnt mean i dont tell you the truth. Rachel, with that kind of careless writing and phrasing of your statements, i wouldnt be ready to pay you to do anything. How you present yourself tells all about how you do your work - no, dont even show us one of the websites you have done.You have to impress whoever you are targeting - where is your CV/cover letter. Diploma in IT from JKUAT? Am an alumni of that campus and i can tell you mko wengi so package yourself well. In this field affirmative action is only implemented if you match up in skills and personality.
Point 2 - In IT related careers the worst you can say about yourself is 'i can do anything in IT'. Pick a field you love and strengthen your skills there - then the jobs will follow you :)
All the best in your job search.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work
Me thots;
though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way.
What job would you give her?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com>wrote:
Clearly she is not online,else she's have responded to the thread. Can someone give her a call,*Paul Mwachi* might consider her...waste no opportunity & skunks is there to help techies,why not her?.
Why should that be someone else's duty, Lawrence? You shouldn't wait for someone else to do it.
From what I can tell, hers was a one-off post to an audience she did not even bother to understand in the first place -- much like a shot in the wild!
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LoL !!! Yenyewe that chinese guy in that youtube clip is funny [?]!!!! "this most dangerous snake in africa,,, it bite you, you die! Not yesterday, you die today "

lol i like you site´s main pic Paul Mwachi nice one :) On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Paul Mwachi <paul@isys.co.ke> wrote:
Am sure there IS someone on the list that can offer her an internship ….but in what ?? data entry ??? network cable crimping?? What … what??
I think Oliver put it properly for her … state you competencies and not only may she get an internship…. She may just get a job. I know am hiring web app developers but the language must be known
Kind regards,
Paul Mwachi
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*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Tony Gacheru *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:16 PM
*To:* 'Skunkworks Mailing List' *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] help me get a job
I guess we are now confirming to her that list is not a serious one going by her casual employment request. Can someone on the list at least offer internship so she can learn what has been preached here!!!!!!
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Oliver Ndegwa *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:03 PM *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] help me get a job
To the Jobseeker,
Like a few skunks have mentioned, please package your self properly, impress the employers and those who can recommend you in this fora.
We need many different types of competences and if you can be a bit specific especially on the area you have mentioned of web development i have a few leads... So its your call impress us. Show us your worth in any area of interest and we could show you the way
regards
Oliver
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:27 AM, joel eliakim <joeliakim@gmail.com> wrote:
i agree with you Lawrence, none of us woke up and found ourselves in this field, we all learnt from someone at some point in life, i believe by encouraging her and guiding her in the right direction as nyarotho put it, albiet crudely, we are actually helping her out of what she has put herself in by quitting her job.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com> wrote:
Wothout discouraging her she needs an internship with a good mentor...all of us we're not any far much better than her at some point in our careers. Besides i think this is not an interview thread(If it were,too bad...may would have dropped her),let her be pls & hook her up with a placement if u can!
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:47 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
I try to be as encouraging as i can at all times but this doesnt mean i dont tell you the truth. Rachel, with that kind of careless writing and phrasing of your statements, i wouldnt be ready to pay you to do anything. How you present yourself tells all about how you do your work - no, dont even show us one of the websites you have done.You have to impress whoever you are targeting - where is your CV/cover letter. Diploma in IT from JKUAT? Am an alumni of that campus and i can tell you mko wengi so package yourself well. In this field affirmative action is only implemented if you match up in skills and personality.
Point 2 - In IT related careers the worst you can say about yourself is 'i can do anything in IT'. Pick a field you love and strengthen your skills there - then the jobs will follow you :)
All the best in your job search.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work
Me thots;
though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way.
What job would you give her?
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Jessy and Jeremy thanx 4 the feeds. I hope u will consider my application. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Dennis Karigi <dkarigi@gmail.com> wrote:
lol i like you site´s main pic Paul Mwachi nice one :)
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Paul Mwachi <paul@isys.co.ke> wrote:
Am sure there IS someone on the list that can offer her an internship ….but in what ?? data entry ??? network cable crimping?? What … what??
I think Oliver put it properly for her … state you competencies and not only may she get an internship…. She may just get a job. I know am hiring web app developers but the language must be known
Kind regards,
Paul Mwachi
-- iSys · Cape Office Park · Kilimani Ring Road · P O Box 17726 - 00100, Nairobi Kenya T (Off) +254 202 425 031 (Cell) +254 722 320187 E: paul@isys.co.ke · www.isys.co.ke
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*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Tony Gacheru *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:16 PM
*To:* 'Skunkworks Mailing List' *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] help me get a job
I guess we are now confirming to her that list is not a serious one going by her casual employment request. Can someone on the list at least offer internship so she can learn what has been preached here!!!!!!
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Oliver Ndegwa *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:03 PM *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] help me get a job
To the Jobseeker,
Like a few skunks have mentioned, please package your self properly, impress the employers and those who can recommend you in this fora.
We need many different types of competences and if you can be a bit specific especially on the area you have mentioned of web development i have a few leads... So its your call impress us. Show us your worth in any area of interest and we could show you the way
regards
Oliver
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:27 AM, joel eliakim <joeliakim@gmail.com> wrote:
i agree with you Lawrence, none of us woke up and found ourselves in this field, we all learnt from someone at some point in life, i believe by encouraging her and guiding her in the right direction as nyarotho put it, albiet crudely, we are actually helping her out of what she has put herself in by quitting her job.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com> wrote:
Wothout discouraging her she needs an internship with a good mentor...all of us we're not any far much better than her at some point in our careers. Besides i think this is not an interview thread(If it were,too bad...may would have dropped her),let her be pls & hook her up with a placement if u can!
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:47 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
I try to be as encouraging as i can at all times but this doesnt mean i dont tell you the truth. Rachel, with that kind of careless writing and phrasing of your statements, i wouldnt be ready to pay you to do anything. How you present yourself tells all about how you do your work - no, dont even show us one of the websites you have done.You have to impress whoever you are targeting - where is your CV/cover letter. Diploma in IT from JKUAT? Am an alumni of that campus and i can tell you mko wengi so package yourself well. In this field affirmative action is only implemented if you match up in skills and personality.
Point 2 - In IT related careers the worst you can say about yourself is 'i can do anything in IT'. Pick a field you love and strengthen your skills there - then the jobs will follow you :)
All the best in your job search.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Guess skunkworks is informal; and by saying 'any' it may mean she is a beginner and willing to start on any line of IT work
Me thots;
though as you said; a little elaboration would go a long way.
What job would you give her?
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Rachel, try the below: Octopus ICT Solutions, an IT company dealing primarily with E- Learning, Internet and Web Solutions and based in Nairobi is seeking to hire people to fill the following positions 1. MARKETING COORDINATOR The incumbent will be responsible for successfully assist the marketing team with various tasks such as collateral development, customer satisfaction analysis, sales programs, product development and service programs. Candidates should be able to multitask, have strong communication skills and business knowledge. Marketing and sales awareness and experience will be required. The marketing coordinator professional will be expected to assist with and deliver marketing information in a timely manner on behalf of the marketing department. • Undertake the implementation of marketing promotions and campaigns • Participate in marketing events such as seminars, trade shows, and telemarketing events. • Provide on-the-job training to new sales employees. Forging and maintaining relationships with new & existing clients • Proposing and Presenting ELearning, internet and or web based solutions to customers Requirements and Skills • A degree in marketing or business related field. • Previous sales experience (at least 1 year) is a must. Selling experience into electronic commerce (e-commerce) services, ICT services and or software applications is an added advantage. • At least a foundation certificate in an IT-Related training. Must be computer literate with MS Office products. Excellent Computer Skills. • Working knowledge of Internet marketing strategies. • A proven, demonstrable track record of success in business development and sales management. • A self-motivated attribute and ability to work with minimal supervision. • Superior knowledge of sales techniques including cold-calling, networking, lead generation, all with the ability to capture and close the deal. • Superior work Ethics. 2. WEB DEVELOPERS The web developer will be responsible for: • Translating a client’s marketing or informational content into a functional website. • Mapping or outlining a website’s structural content. • Creating or editing images and graphics for website use. • Determining all coding requirements for site creation including: e- commerce capability, forms and specialized scripts. • Creating templates of approved website layout. • Coordinating with programmers for specialized scripts. • Creating verbal content for the website or using approved content from the client. • Integrating verbal content with site design for final product. • Posting completed site to internet server using FTP software. • Making changes to the site directed by client. • Submitting completed site to search engines. • Working with Project Managers and content team to ensure products are delivered on time and according to quality standards. Requirements and skills • Ability to use HTML, PHP, Flash, Photoshop/Illustrator, and ability to create CMS sites. • Include examples of sites done in your CV 3. CONTENT DEVELOPERS The Web content developer will be responsible for researching, writing, gathering, organizing, and editing information for publication on web sites. Content includes prose, graphics, pictures, recordings, movies or other digital assets. Duties and Responsibilities • Search engine optimization • Content development and content enrichment • Set up of Domain Registration and Hosting • Web and Email Support for existing clients • Liaising with clients to provide required content • researching and developing articles • edit, review, and decide what articles will be used and what articles will be rejected • Ensure website design and content meet copy style guide and graphics standards. • Perform regular reviews of the website to ensure content accuracy, timeliness and relevance. • Test website accessibility and functionality from a variety of environments. • Perform related duties and responsibilities as assigned. • Design and create internet applications including interactive forms. • Maintain current web site. • Monitor web usage and provide statistics for management reporting. • Ensure website content meets the needs of external clients. • Manage links and cross-promotions with other sites. • Coordinate timely responses to e-mail inquiries received via the website. Requirements and skills • Professional writing skills • Advanced Computer and IT skills • Preference will be given to applicants with skills in Web development and the ability to use HTML, PHP, Flash, Photoshop or Illustrator. • Samples of work should be included if any. Interested parties should send their applications to jobs@octopusict.com by 22nd October 2010. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com>wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
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Or this other: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jessy Chepchumba <jessy.waeldoret@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 3:55 PM Subject: [YP_Ke] Vacancy To: youngprofessionals_ke <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com> Hi, Am looking to fill two position in a Micro Finance company. 1. IT Officer - who can also work in the field occasionally. 2. Operations Manager - This is a senior position. Micro finance experience A MUST. Send your CV directly to my email and I will contact you direct. Regards Jessy. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:35 PM, JEREMIAH CHUNGE <jayrehmc@gmail.com> wrote:
Rachel, try the below:
Octopus ICT Solutions, an IT company dealing primarily with E- Learning, Internet and Web Solutions and based in Nairobi is seeking to hire people to fill the following positions
1. MARKETING COORDINATOR The incumbent will be responsible for successfully assist the marketing team with various tasks such as collateral development, customer satisfaction analysis, sales programs, product development and service programs. Candidates should be able to multitask, have strong communication skills and business knowledge. Marketing and sales awareness and experience will be required. The marketing coordinator professional will be expected to assist with and deliver marketing information in a timely manner on behalf of the marketing department. • Undertake the implementation of marketing promotions and campaigns • Participate in marketing events such as seminars, trade shows, and telemarketing events. • Provide on-the-job training to new sales employees. Forging and maintaining relationships with new & existing clients • Proposing and Presenting ELearning, internet and or web based solutions to customers
Requirements and Skills
• A degree in marketing or business related field. • Previous sales experience (at least 1 year) is a must. Selling experience into electronic commerce (e-commerce) services, ICT services and or software applications is an added advantage. • At least a foundation certificate in an IT-Related training. Must be computer literate with MS Office products. Excellent Computer Skills. • Working knowledge of Internet marketing strategies. • A proven, demonstrable track record of success in business development and sales management. • A self-motivated attribute and ability to work with minimal supervision. • Superior knowledge of sales techniques including cold-calling, networking, lead generation, all with the ability to capture and close the deal. • Superior work Ethics.
2. WEB DEVELOPERS The web developer will be responsible for: • Translating a client’s marketing or informational content into a functional website. • Mapping or outlining a website’s structural content. • Creating or editing images and graphics for website use. • Determining all coding requirements for site creation including: e- commerce capability, forms and specialized scripts. • Creating templates of approved website layout. • Coordinating with programmers for specialized scripts. • Creating verbal content for the website or using approved content from the client. • Integrating verbal content with site design for final product. • Posting completed site to internet server using FTP software. • Making changes to the site directed by client. • Submitting completed site to search engines. • Working with Project Managers and content team to ensure products are delivered on time and according to quality standards. Requirements and skills • Ability to use HTML, PHP, Flash, Photoshop/Illustrator, and ability to create CMS sites. • Include examples of sites done in your CV
3. CONTENT DEVELOPERS The Web content developer will be responsible for researching, writing, gathering, organizing, and editing information for publication on web sites. Content includes prose, graphics, pictures, recordings, movies or other digital assets.
Duties and Responsibilities • Search engine optimization • Content development and content enrichment • Set up of Domain Registration and Hosting • Web and Email Support for existing clients • Liaising with clients to provide required content • researching and developing articles • edit, review, and decide what articles will be used and what articles will be rejected • Ensure website design and content meet copy style guide and graphics standards. • Perform regular reviews of the website to ensure content accuracy, timeliness and relevance. • Test website accessibility and functionality from a variety of environments. • Perform related duties and responsibilities as assigned. • Design and create internet applications including interactive forms. • Maintain current web site. • Monitor web usage and provide statistics for management reporting. • Ensure website content meets the needs of external clients. • Manage links and cross-promotions with other sites. • Coordinate timely responses to e-mail inquiries received via the website. Requirements and skills
• Professional writing skills • Advanced Computer and IT skills • Preference will be given to applicants with skills in Web development and the ability to use HTML, PHP, Flash, Photoshop or Illustrator. • Samples of work should be included if any.
Interested parties should send their applications to jobs@octopusict.com by 22nd October 2010.
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com>wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
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Seems skunkworks has turned into an ivory tower occupied by know-it-all, have-it-all Alpha geeks. Dear ALPHA GEEKS, Please be kind enough to tell us how you ended up at your current position of <sarcasm>experience, unbounded knowledge and influence</sarcasm>, without starting out at a level similar to Rachels ?? Thank you. Yours sincerely, Pissed-off Patronas <flame suit: "on"> On 10/5/10, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com> wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.

touche !! On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Garr Patronas <garr.patronas@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems skunkworks has turned into an ivory tower occupied by know-it-all, have-it-all Alpha geeks.
Dear ALPHA GEEKS, Please be kind enough to tell us how you ended up at your current position of <sarcasm>experience, unbounded knowledge and influence</sarcasm>, without starting out at a level similar to Rachels ?? Thank you.
Yours sincerely, Pissed-off Patronas <flame suit: "on">
On 10/5/10, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com> wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
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guys thanks for the challenge ,we all begin from on where am sure. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
touche !!
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Garr Patronas <garr.patronas@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems skunkworks has turned into an ivory tower occupied by know-it-all, have-it-all Alpha geeks.
Dear ALPHA GEEKS, Please be kind enough to tell us how you ended up at your current position of <sarcasm>experience, unbounded knowledge and influence</sarcasm>, without starting out at a level similar to Rachels ?? Thank you.
Yours sincerely, Pissed-off Patronas <flame suit: "on">
On 10/5/10, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com> wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
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Finally! On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:05 PM, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com>wrote:
guys thanks for the challenge ,we all begin from on where am sure.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
touche !!
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Garr Patronas <garr.patronas@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems skunkworks has turned into an ivory tower occupied by know-it-all, have-it-all Alpha geeks.
Dear ALPHA GEEKS, Please be kind enough to tell us how you ended up at your current position of <sarcasm>experience, unbounded knowledge and influence</sarcasm>, without starting out at a level similar to Rachels ?? Thank you.
Yours sincerely, Pissed-off Patronas <flame suit: "on">
On 10/5/10, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com> wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
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Lets close this issue people. Rachel. please package your CV properly and send it to this thread. We got jobs. Lets see what you can do. regards Oliver On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com>wrote:
Finally!
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:05 PM, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com>wrote:
guys thanks for the challengeour ,we all begin from on where am sure.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
touche !!
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Garr Patronas <garr.patronas@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems skunkworks has turned into an ivory tower occupied by know-it-all, have-it-all Alpha geeks.
Dear ALPHA GEEKS, Please be kind enough to tell us how you ended up at your current position of <sarcasm>experience, unbounded knowledge and influence</sarcasm>, without starting out at a level similar to Rachels ?? Thank you.
Yours sincerely, Pissed-off Patronas <flame suit: "on">
On 10/5/10, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com> wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f...
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- No mountain is too high to keep you from Climbing it....
Life is not about waiting for storms to pass....it's about learning how to dance in the rain,or even swim when necessary **
Lawrence K +254720784912 +254737103681
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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People please read headings before posting On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Lets close this issue people.
Rachel. please package your CV properly and send it to this thread. We got jobs. Lets see what you can do.
regards Oliver
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com>wrote:
Finally!
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:05 PM, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com>wrote:
guys thanks for the challengeour ,we all begin from on where am sure.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com
wrote:
touche !!
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Garr Patronas < garr.patronas@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems skunkworks has turned into an ivory tower occupied by know-it-all, have-it-all Alpha geeks.
Dear ALPHA GEEKS, Please be kind enough to tell us how you ended up at your current position of <sarcasm>experience, unbounded knowledge and influence</sarcasm>, without starting out at a level similar to Rachels ?? Thank you.
Yours sincerely, Pissed-off Patronas <flame suit: "on">
On 10/5/10, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com> wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f...
------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- No mountain is too high to keep you from Climbing it....
Life is not about waiting for storms to pass....it's about learning how to dance in the rain,or even swim when necessary **
Lawrence K +254720784912 +254737103681
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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Patronas.... Kenya's fast paced telecoms industry has no time for foundation classes (CV writing, cover letters etc) - i believe Rachel appreciates what we are telling her. Jobs and even internships are not just dished out like bananas during Moi's time - you've got to stand out (not even necessarily with your technical skills) Why am i speaking like i know it all? its because i went through a similar experience. Two years ago, Theus Owicho (a member of this list) asked me to pass my CV to him for an internship. I told him this "I only have hard copy, nikuletee wapi tao?". That did it for me....i missed the opportunity.But i learnt that i have to be proactive and above AVERAGE in life skills!. It exposes quite a lot.....some even post their applications here thinking skunkworks is a person/company. Yet when you go through their flashy CVs the only IT thing they might have a slight problem in doing is turning a CRT into a Touchscreen! As i said, "babysit me today, tommorow you will babysit me and my kids" On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Garr Patronas <garr.patronas@gmail.com>wrote:
Seems skunkworks has turned into an ivory tower occupied by know-it-all, have-it-all Alpha geeks.
Dear ALPHA GEEKS, Please be kind enough to tell us how you ended up at your current position of <sarcasm>experience, unbounded knowledge and influence</sarcasm>, without starting out at a level similar to Rachels ?? Thank you.
Yours sincerely, Pissed-off Patronas <flame suit: "on">
On 10/5/10, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com> wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- People should know when they are conquered.

Dear 'Pissed-off Patronas' on Fire We got here by presenting ourselves right ... like we are seriously looking for a job and not just lamenting to pals about recent changes in ourlives. At minimum say what you can do. Or else you may be offered jobs like and I quote " network cable crimping" just saying!!!!! On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Garr Patronas <garr.patronas@gmail.com>wrote:
Seems skunkworks has turned into an ivory tower occupied by know-it-all, have-it-all Alpha geeks.
Dear ALPHA GEEKS, Please be kind enough to tell us how you ended up at your current position of <sarcasm>experience, unbounded knowledge and influence</sarcasm>, without starting out at a level similar to Rachels ?? Thank you.
Yours sincerely, Pissed-off Patronas <flame suit: "on">
On 10/5/10, rachel tati <racheltatirachel@gmail.com> wrote:
help guys,please assist me to get a job. i have done a diploma in It from JKUAT and currently left where i was working .am good website design any any IT related job will be ok with me. your help will be appreciate please.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Aladin Khedira
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Alvin Jason Ochieng
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Dennis Karigi
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Garr Patronas
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Gichingiri Kuria
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JEREMIAH CHUNGE
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joel eliakim
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Joseph McDonald
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Lawrence Kago
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Lenchipai Nakodony
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ndungu stephen
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Net Caster
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nyarotho kennedy
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Odhiambo Washington
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Oliver Ndegwa
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Paul Mwachi
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rachel tati
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Simon Mbuthia
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Stephen Munguti
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Stephen Ndungu
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steve kyengo
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Tech List Kenya
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Tony Gacheru