Re: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank

Disclaimer, i dont work there, This is what happens with banks; when u open an account with bank X, in this case coop, they get all ur details in hard copy. They input all the soft details like name, address, etc as u wait to be allocated an acc number. Details like signatures, thumb prints, etc are sent to their head offices for scanning then distributed to their branches for updating. This physical movement of your signature takes time. Sent from My HTC ----- Reply message ----- From: "Job Muriuki" <muriukin@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 23:16 I had a situation where an joint account had no signatories after taking our pic and signs twice. we left that account. On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Mash <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote: Elaborate. Sent from My HTC ----- Reply message ----- From: "Tusker 21" <tusker212@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 22:03 Hey Skunks, Anyone eva been messed by this bank? They keep telling me its not my signature. I'm my twin brother. Stupid bank, are they victims of fraud or sth? regards, Tusker 21 _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki, Phone: (+254) - 722906324 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob Address: 42665 00100 Nrb

Well; there are some things I usually notice when they say my signature is wrong --- (1) I have never got that crap from a male cashier (2) wen you are dressed in casual wear (3) wen you are removing amounts and you dont look like you can afford that amount So the challenge I usually pose them is "I have an ID; two, the ID has my signature; three, you have a photo in my account - am sure there is a way you can pull it from the database"

Its that cumbersome reallty? Haven't they heard of Graphic pads? Signatures can be in all branches in real time with this. These pads are relatively cheap http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet ----- "Mash" <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Disclaimer, i dont work there, This is what happens with banks; when u open an account with bank X, in this case coop, they get all ur details in hard copy. They input all the soft details like name, address, etc as u wait to be allocated an acc number. Details like signatures, thumb prints, etc are sent to their head offices for scanning then distributed to their branches for updating. This physical movement of your signature takes time.
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----- Reply message ----- From: "Job Muriuki" <muriukin@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 23:16
I had a situation where an joint account had no signatories after taking our pic and signs twice. we left that account.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Mash < mashlists@gmail.com > wrote:
Elaborate.
Sent from My HTC
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From: "Tusker 21" < tusker212@gmail.com > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 22 :03
Hey Skunks, Anyone eva been messed by this bank? They keep telling me its not my signature. I'm my twin brother. Stupid bank, are they victims of fraud or sth? regards, Tusker 21
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Phone: (+254) - 722906324 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob
Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
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i'd solve this in one of two ways: who do you report to? (and go all the way to the manager) or may i close my account? @ Steve wish skunksworks could get to be that. a way of engaging business in providing solutions. for example, in the land of mpesa, pesapal etc i still see 5k cheques being dished out On Nov 14, 2011 11:55 PM, "Steve Obbayi" <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Its that cumbersome reallty? Haven't they heard of Graphic pads? Signatures can be in all branches in real time with this. These pads are relatively cheap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet
----- "Mash" <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Disclaimer, i dont work there, This is what happens with banks; when u open an account with bank X, in this case coop, they get all ur details in hard copy. They input all the soft details like name, address, etc as u wait to be allocated an acc number. Details like signatures, thumb prints, etc are sent to their head offices for scanning then distributed to their branches for updating. This physical movement of your signature takes time.
Sent from My HTC
----- Reply message ----- From: "Job Muriuki" <muriukin@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 23:16
I had a situation where an joint account had no signatories after taking our pic and signs twice. we left that account.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Mash <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaborate.
Sent from My HTC
----- Reply message -----
From: "Tusker 21" <tusker212@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 22:03
Hey Skunks,
Anyone eva been messed by this bank? They keep telling me its not my signature. I'm my twin brother. Stupid bank, are they victims of fraud or sth?
regards,
Tusker 21
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-- Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki,
Phone: (+254) - 722906324 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob
Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
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Managers really dont care. They tell you that that they are covering their a$$e$, closing your account too is a non issue to them. Infact they tell you its your call. Worse of it all is they tell you their is a charge associated in closing the account 1. They readily accept the cash, or draw your account with closure fees 2. I doubt if they request you to sign and counter verify your signature in the closure forms In short the problem is them giving ou the cash. Possible solutions. - Avoid going to the banking hall - Increase your withdrawal limit to maximum - KCB can chuck up to 2 hundred K. - The stupid bank has few faulty and lonq queued ATMs Nowanda safcom is beating banks in their own game. Ever heard a telco that is doing beta than banks in financial services. okoa jahazi is a loan at 10% interest rate. Plus MPESA neva verify your sign its your number, your ID and pap u deposit or withdraw now thats technology. Verifying signature and the old thumbprint thingie is for them shaddy bank called Coop. regards Tusker 21 On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:23 AM, amanya <whynnot@gmail.com> wrote:
i'd solve this in one of two ways: who do you report to? (and go all the way to the manager) or may i close my account?
@ Steve wish skunksworks could get to be that. a way of engaging business in providing solutions. for example, in the land of mpesa, pesapal etc i still see 5k cheques being dished out On Nov 14, 2011 11:55 PM, "Steve Obbayi" <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Its that cumbersome reallty? Haven't they heard of Graphic pads? Signatures can be in all branches in real time with this. These pads are relatively cheap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet
----- "Mash" <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Disclaimer, i dont work there, This is what happens with banks; when u open an account with bank X, in this case coop, they get all ur details in hard copy. They input all the soft details like name, address, etc as u wait to be allocated an acc number. Details like signatures, thumb prints, etc are sent to their head offices for scanning then distributed to their branches for updating. This physical movement of your signature takes time.
Sent from My HTC
----- Reply message ----- From: "Job Muriuki" <muriukin@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 23:16
I had a situation where an joint account had no signatories after taking our pic and signs twice. we left that account.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Mash <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaborate.
Sent from My HTC
----- Reply message -----
From: "Tusker 21" <tusker212@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 22:03
Hey Skunks,
Anyone eva been messed by this bank? They keep telling me its not my signature. I'm my twin brother. Stupid bank, are they victims of fraud or sth?
regards,
Tusker 21
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-- Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki,
Phone: (+254) - 722906324 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob
Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
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Ha i thought am the only one, i normally ask for a plain sheet of paper -> 1 - 30 and start signing until they say, that one looks like it :(. You could even ask for a glass of water. I always insist that i didnt take art lessons in replication. My other friend simply signs j.f.f its hard to miss this *_______________________________________________________________ its ok child, He's heard you * On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:
Managers really dont care. They tell you that that they are covering their a$$e$, closing your account too is a non issue to them. Infact they tell you its your call.
Worse of it all is they tell you their is a charge associated in closing the account
1. They readily accept the cash, or draw your account with closure fees 2. I doubt if they request you to sign and counter verify your signature in the closure forms
In short the problem is them giving ou the cash.
Possible solutions.
- Avoid going to the banking hall - Increase your withdrawal limit to maximum - KCB can chuck up to 2 hundred K. - The stupid bank has few faulty and lonq queued ATMs
Nowanda safcom is beating banks in their own game. Ever heard a telco that is doing beta than banks in financial services. okoa jahazi is a loan at 10% interest rate.
Plus MPESA neva verify your sign its your number, your ID and pap u deposit or withdraw now thats technology. Verifying signature and the old thumbprint thingie is for them shaddy bank called Coop.
regards
Tusker 21
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:23 AM, amanya <whynnot@gmail.com> wrote:
i'd solve this in one of two ways: who do you report to? (and go all the way to the manager) or may i close my account?
@ Steve wish skunksworks could get to be that. a way of engaging business in providing solutions. for example, in the land of mpesa, pesapal etc i still see 5k cheques being dished out On Nov 14, 2011 11:55 PM, "Steve Obbayi" <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Its that cumbersome reallty? Haven't they heard of Graphic pads? Signatures can be in all branches in real time with this. These pads are relatively cheap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet
----- "Mash" <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Disclaimer, i dont work there, This is what happens with banks; when u open an account with bank X, in this case coop, they get all ur details in hard copy. They input all the soft details like name, address, etc as u wait to be allocated an acc number. Details like signatures, thumb prints, etc are sent to their head offices for scanning then distributed to their branches for updating. This physical movement of your signature takes time.
Sent from My HTC
----- Reply message ----- From: "Job Muriuki" <muriukin@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 23:16
I had a situation where an joint account had no signatories after taking our pic and signs twice. we left that account.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Mash <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaborate.
Sent from My HTC
----- Reply message -----
From: "Tusker 21" <tusker212@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 22:03
Hey Skunks,
Anyone eva been messed by this bank? They keep telling me its not my signature. I'm my twin brother. Stupid bank, are they victims of fraud or sth?
regards,
Tusker 21
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-- Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki,
Phone: (+254) - 722906324 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob
Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
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Disclaimer, i dont work there, This is what happens with banks; when u open an account with bank X, in this case coop, they get all ur details in hard copy. They input all the soft details like name, address, etc as u wait to be allocated an acc number. Details like signatures, thumb prints, etc are sent to their head offices for scanning then distributed to their branches for updating. This physical movement of your signature takes time. I was always been reffered to my home branch (Eldoret) to 'take a photo' every time I was signing a banker's cheque. Sometimes they would just be honest and say 'it's your signature boss'. Having opened my account in 2002, dont you think this 'physical movement' of my details has taken a bit too long ? -- <http://neno.co.ke> Ndungi Kyalo neno.co.ke ~ Your word O Lord, lights my path. <http://neno.co.ke> On 14 November 2011 23:31, Mash <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
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----- Reply message ----- From: "Job Muriuki" <muriukin@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 23:16
I had a situation where an joint account had no signatories after taking our pic and signs twice. we left that account.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Mash <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaborate.
Sent from My HTC
----- Reply message ----- From: "Tusker 21" <tusker212@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Co-op Bank Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 22:03
Hey Skunks,
Anyone eva been messed by this bank? They keep telling me its not my signature. I'm my twin brother. Stupid bank, are they victims of fraud or sth?
regards,
Tusker 21
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-- Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki,
Phone: (+254) - 722906324 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob
Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
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amanya
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joe mwirigi
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Mash
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Ndungi Kyalo
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ndungu stephen
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Steve Obbayi
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Tusker 21