Bail money for Majjiwa ? lol.. :-) On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:17 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:

sasa bado godaddy. :-)

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:

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This is for information purposes : It looks like the City Council has doubled parking fees from 140 to 300 as from this coming Monday.

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Kenyanews/Parking-gets-expensive-in-Kenyan-c...

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If jobo didnt provide parking...........huh !! On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:32 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:

Goddammit!!! The government wants to bleed us dry...!!!! Is there a way we can sue gova ? Kwanza they encourage economic growth, then they realize they werent prepared, now they want to punish pple for their undersight ! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

This is good. More ppl use public transport = less traffic. Wish a fee would be added for any car to enter town like some recent experiments/ ongoing projects in other city centres: http://www.google.com/search?q=city+car+fee+experiments Not needing a car is one of the few advantages of living in a city. Higher living costs but lower transportation costs :) It is hard taking someone who complains about traffic seriously if the person is alone in their car to and from work. On 10/26/2010 06:32 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:

Goddammit!!!

The government wants to bleed us dry...!!!!

Is there a way we can sue gova ?

Kwanza they encourage economic growth, then they realize they werent prepared, now they want to punish pple for their undersight !

Incentive to relocate businesses out of CBD and decongest the city. From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Eric Mugo Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:49 AM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] [OT] Parking Fees Doubled those other cities have very good, clean and efficient railway, trams and bus transport that are affordable and reliable come rain, snow, summer etc... what do we have here, chaotic matatus that from january when they are wiped out of CBD...anyone working in town will pay double fares by the remaining big matatus allowed into the CBD... in short, working in CBD will be two jobs....transport and the actual work... On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote: This is good. More ppl use public transport = less traffic. Wish a fee would be added for any car to enter town like some recent experiments/ ongoing projects in other city centres: http://www.google.com/search?q=city+car+fee+experiments Not needing a car is one of the few advantages of living in a city. Higher living costs but lower transportation costs :) It is hard taking someone who complains about traffic seriously if the person is alone in their car to and from work. On 10/26/2010 06:32 PM, ndungu stephen wrote: Goddammit!!! The government wants to bleed us dry...!!!! Is there a way we can sue gova ? Kwanza they encourage economic growth, then they realize they werent prepared, now they want to punish pple for their undersight ! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

On 27 October 2010 08:59, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

Incentive to relocate businesses out of CBD and decongest the city.

...

yaaah right, like tatu city, right?

The problem with Kaju is that they are short sighted; - What will happen to business in the city - cbd is everybody re-locate? - it means no investors will dare land there or are we devolving businesses too? - Is the 300 bob worth the service they give if they render any? - Where is organised matatu/transport service - Come January, much time/work wi be spent hunting for matatus (2) for every route or if blessed with your own car 1 - The security is wanting within CBD as far as kaju is concerned. - i prophesy downfall of the kaju of Nairobi, very soon you will see retrenchment - i bet they pay their employees with the parking fee- millions every month? - Why cant they re-introduce "muthufari - city council buses and promise efficiency other that introducing draconian rules that benefit none of the city dwellers? in my opinion, they fee is not timely - let them lay the structures/basics before they set the rooftops! Wilson.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Tony Gacheru <tonygacheru@gmail.com>wrote:

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*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Eric Mugo *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:49 AM *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] [OT] Parking Fees Doubled

those other cities have very good, clean and efficient railway, trams and bus transport that are affordable and reliable come rain, snow, summer etc...

what do we have here, chaotic matatus that from january when they are wiped out of CBD...anyone working in town will pay double fares by the remaining big matatus allowed into the CBD...

in short, working in CBD will be two jobs....transport and the actual work...

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:

This is good. More ppl use public transport = less traffic. Wish a fee would be added for any car to enter town like some recent experiments/ ongoing projects in other city centres:

http://www.google.com/search?q=city+car+fee+experiments

Not needing a car is one of the few advantages of living in a city. Higher living costs but lower transportation costs :)

It is hard taking someone who complains about traffic seriously if the person is alone in their car to and from work.

On 10/26/2010 06:32 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:

Goddammit!!!

The government wants to bleed us dry...!!!!

Is there a way we can sue gova ?

Kwanza they encourage economic growth, then they realize they werent prepared, now they want to punish pple for their undersight !

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What if everyone refuses to pay? how many vehicles can NCC clamp? On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:

Ripple effect will be less collections by city council anyway because everyone is constructing away from the CBD and putting private parking spaces.

Me thinks its fundraising for elections. Suddenly every public servant is talking about needing money for this and that other project worth billions.didnt they budget at the beginning of their terms?

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:

...

On 27 October 2010 08:59, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Incentive to relocate businesses out of CBD and decongest the city.

...

yaaah right, like tatu city, right?

The problem with Kaju is that they are short sighted;

- What will happen to business in the city - cbd is everybody re-locate? - it means no investors will dare land there or are we devolving businesses too? - Is the 300 bob worth the service they give if they render any? - Where is organised matatu/transport service - Come January, much time/work wi be spent hunting for matatus (2) for every route or if blessed with your own car 1 - The security is wanting within CBD as far as kaju is concerned. - i prophesy downfall of the kaju of Nairobi, very soon you will see retrenchment - i bet they pay their employees with the parking fee- millions every month? - Why cant they re-introduce "muthufari - city council buses and promise efficiency other that introducing draconian rules that benefit none of the city dwellers?

in my opinion, they fee is not timely - let them lay the structures/basics before they set the rooftops!

Wilson.

...

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Tony Gacheru <tonygacheru@gmail.com>wrote:

...

*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Eric Mugo *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:49 AM *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] [OT] Parking Fees Doubled

those other cities have very good, clean and efficient railway, trams and bus transport that are affordable and reliable come rain, snow, summer etc...

what do we have here, chaotic matatus that from january when they are wiped out of CBD...anyone working in town will pay double fares by the remaining big matatus allowed into the CBD...

in short, working in CBD will be two jobs....transport and the actual work...

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:

This is good. More ppl use public transport = less traffic. Wish a fee would be added for any car to enter town like some recent experiments/ ongoing projects in other city centres:

http://www.google.com/search?q=city+car+fee+experiments

Not needing a car is one of the few advantages of living in a city. Higher living costs but lower transportation costs :)

It is hard taking someone who complains about traffic seriously if the person is alone in their car to and from work.

On 10/26/2010 06:32 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:

Goddammit!!!

The government wants to bleed us dry...!!!!

Is there a way we can sue gova ?

Kwanza they encourage economic growth, then they realize they werent prepared, now they want to punish pple for their undersight !

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The best thing is for Training to be offerred to all drivers on how to pick the clamp lock. The rule of the game is once you unlock, dont leave it there....put it in your boot and give it to main campus students who like hanging all sort of things in their rooms...hopefully, they will run out of clamping materials.. over to you chuks.... On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Christopher Kiagiri <ck@google.com> wrote:

The additional parking fees should be able to purchase many more clamps from jua kali vendors (job creation) and the tow-truck land rovers that sit parked all day around town will now see more business (again more jobs/work).

2010/10/27 [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>

What if everyone refuses to pay? how many vehicles can NCC clamp?

...

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Ripple effect will be less collections by city council anyway because everyone is constructing away from the CBD and putting private parking spaces.

Me thinks its fundraising for elections. Suddenly every public servant is talking about needing money for this and that other project worth billions.didnt they budget at the beginning of their terms?

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:

...

On 27 October 2010 08:59, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Incentive to relocate businesses out of CBD and decongest the city.

...

yaaah right, like tatu city, right?

The problem with Kaju is that they are short sighted;

- What will happen to business in the city - cbd is everybody re-locate? - it means no investors will dare land there or are we devolving businesses too? - Is the 300 bob worth the service they give if they render any? - Where is organised matatu/transport service - Come January, much time/work wi be spent hunting for matatus (2) for every route or if blessed with your own car 1 - The security is wanting within CBD as far as kaju is concerned. - i prophesy downfall of the kaju of Nairobi, very soon you will see retrenchment - i bet they pay their employees with the parking fee- millions every month? - Why cant they re-introduce "muthufari - city council buses and promise efficiency other that introducing draconian rules that benefit none of the city dwellers?

in my opinion, they fee is not timely - let them lay the structures/basics before they set the rooftops!

Wilson.

...

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Tony Gacheru <tonygacheru@gmail.com>wrote:

...

*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Eric Mugo *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:49 AM *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] [OT] Parking Fees Doubled

those other cities have very good, clean and efficient railway, trams and bus transport that are affordable and reliable come rain, snow, summer etc...

what do we have here, chaotic matatus that from january when they are wiped out of CBD...anyone working in town will pay double fares by the remaining big matatus allowed into the CBD...

in short, working in CBD will be two jobs....transport and the actual work...

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:

This is good. More ppl use public transport = less traffic. Wish a fee would be added for any car to enter town like some recent experiments/ ongoing projects in other city centres:

http://www.google.com/search?q=city+car+fee+experiments

Not needing a car is one of the few advantages of living in a city. Higher living costs but lower transportation costs :)

It is hard taking someone who complains about traffic seriously if the person is alone in their car to and from work.

On 10/26/2010 06:32 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:

Goddammit!!!

The government wants to bleed us dry...!!!!

Is there a way we can sue gova ?

Kwanza they encourage economic growth, then they realize they werent prepared, now they want to punish pple for their undersight !

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diplomatic immunity On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:07 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:

I like what i saw some brazillian Embassy 4X4 guys do. came out of reinsurance hse to find their car clamped, opened the back door and came out with some kick @$$ cutter, diced the clamping thing like wire and left the pieces on the ground. guys that had mulled around kawaida ya wanairobi even came out to help pull of sticking metal while soma kanjoo mamaa watched with amusement. in the end though, everyone was cheering and guys left like celebrities... talk of skewed sense of justice.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Eric Mugo <kabugum@gmail.com> wrote:

...

The best thing is for Training to be offerred to all drivers on how to pick the clamp lock. The rule of the game is once you unlock, dont leave it there....put it in your boot and give it to main campus students who like hanging all sort of things in their rooms...hopefully, they will run out of clamping materials..

over to you chuks....

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Christopher Kiagiri <ck@google.com>wrote:

...

The additional parking fees should be able to purchase many more clamps from jua kali vendors (job creation) and the tow-truck land rovers that sit parked all day around town will now see more business (again more jobs/work).

2010/10/27 [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>

What if everyone refuses to pay? how many vehicles can NCC clamp?

...

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com

...

wrote:

...

Ripple effect will be less collections by city council anyway because everyone is constructing away from the CBD and putting private parking spaces.

Me thinks its fundraising for elections. Suddenly every public servant is talking about needing money for this and that other project worth billions.didnt they budget at the beginning of their terms?

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:

...

On 27 October 2010 08:59, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:

> Incentive to relocate businesses out of CBD and decongest the city. >> > yaaah right, like tatu city, right? > > > > The problem with Kaju is that they are short sighted;

- What will happen to business in the city - cbd is everybody re-locate? - it means no investors will dare land there or are we devolving businesses too? - Is the 300 bob worth the service they give if they render any? - Where is organised matatu/transport service - Come January, much time/work wi be spent hunting for matatus (2) for every route or if blessed with your own car 1 - The security is wanting within CBD as far as kaju is concerned. - i prophesy downfall of the kaju of Nairobi, very soon you will see retrenchment - i bet they pay their employees with the parking fee- millions every month? - Why cant they re-introduce "muthufari - city council buses and promise efficiency other that introducing draconian rules that benefit none of the city dwellers?

in my opinion, they fee is not timely - let them lay the structures/basics before they set the rooftops!

Wilson.

> > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Tony Gacheru <tonygacheru@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> >> >> >> *From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: >> skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Eric Mugo >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:49 AM >> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List >> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] [OT] Parking Fees Doubled >> >> >> >> those other cities have very good, clean and efficient railway, >> trams and bus transport that are affordable and reliable come rain, snow, >> summer etc... >> >> what do we have here, chaotic matatus that from january when they >> are wiped out of CBD...anyone working in town will pay double fares by the >> remaining big matatus allowed into the CBD... >> >> in short, working in CBD will be two jobs....transport and the >> actual work... >> >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < >> jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote: >> >> This is good. More ppl use public transport = less traffic. >> Wish a fee would be added for any car to enter town >> like some recent experiments/ ongoing projects in other city >> centres: >> >> http://www.google.com/search?q=city+car+fee+experiments >> >> Not needing a car is one of the few advantages of living >> in a city. Higher living costs but lower transportation >> costs :) >> >> It is hard taking someone who complains about traffic >> seriously if the person is alone in their car to and >> from work. >> >> >> >> On 10/26/2010 06:32 PM, ndungu stephen wrote: >> >> Goddammit!!! >> >> The government wants to bleed us dry...!!!! >> >> Is there a way we can sue gova ? >> >> Kwanza they encourage economic growth, then they realize they werent >> prepared, now they want to punish pple for their undersight ! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Collins Areba. > > *Strategic Operations. * > *Center for Renewable Alternatives* > Old Ferry Road, off Msa Malindi Rd, | Kilifi, Kenya. +254 720 516758 > /734 696821 | skype/gtalk/twitter: arebacollins > ** > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:

Try that and see what happens .. to you and your car ..

How does Kanjo tow Automatic Transmission vehicles? Someone was telling me they are practically UN-toweable without causing damage to the transmission system:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

Most times when been carried in a matatu, your knees will either lack enough legroom, you will have to fight for pace with the spare tyre and excess passengers and Worse of all, some of this guys will drive like they are participating in some reality show. If you are a passenger in a matatu that suddenly changes lanes at top speeds just undercutting some truck on mombasa road, then changes back to the spot it was for no reason, you cannot wait to buy your own car before you end up as a statistic. At some point, you get afraid of sitting at the front or just behind the front (I mean, the engine has to move after an impact. Then you look at the amount of metal that goes into making matatus , metal seats, metal decorations and add the unsecured spare tyre at the back. At this point, you begin praying for a safe journey. Safety regulations and physics are things people do not understand.

When they tow your Car and its automatic,Your gear box and all the transmission ........... Goes,you have to replace it.Esp if your car is "German-oriented" you feel the pinch. Ad rather clamp my own car :) On 27 October 2010 01:54, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:

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Try that and see what happens .. to you and your car ..

How does Kanjo tow Automatic Transmission vehicles? Someone was telling me they are practically UN-toweable without causing damage to the transmission system:-)

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Wewe Fundi, Things are different they will step aside if they try to do that now Patrick

Lets wait to see the guy in Jail before we celebrate. Have you ever heard a Kenyan public servant jailed for corruption?The state has perfected the PR around arresting, charging and throwing the case out on a technicality. I can almost bet my money,but deep inside(as every other kenyan) im hoping that this one will be different and we are ushered into a new dispensation for sure. On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:

inflation also bites on the "off the record" side

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Ngũgĩ Kĩmani <ngugi@mafundi.co.ke> wrote:

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how much will kanju parking attendants expect "off the record"? "off the record" used to be 50/- when the "real thing" was 140/- so i reckon now its gonna be 100/- or 140/- maybe?

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On 27 October 2010 15:16, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:

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When they tow your Car and its automatic,Your gear box and all the transmission ........... Goes,you have to replace it.Esp if your car is "German-oriented" you feel the pinch.

Ad rather clamp my own car :)

On 27 October 2010 01:54, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:

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On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com>wrote:

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Try that and see what happens .. to you and your car ..

How does Kanjo tow Automatic Transmission vehicles? Someone was telling me they are practically UN-toweable without causing damage to the transmission system:-)

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Matatu fare will go app primarily because of simple supply and demand, people with more money (they had 140+roughly 200 bob for transport daily, modest estimates), have been pushed into the now limited matatu's... The can afford to pay more... On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Derrick Wesonga <wesongaderrick@gmail.com>wrote:

Matatu fare is also likely to go up since they are also affected. Matatus are now paying 4,000 from 2,200 and buses 8,000 from 4,000 _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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by the way check out this arithmetic. A standard car is about ten foot by four foot wide, thats fourty square foot. that car paying Ksh 400 a day for thirty days (yeah, i know thats a bit of a stretch) will pay a cool Ksh 12,000 a month for an area that is 40Sq foot. this computes to about Ksh 300 per square foot. with this kind of rate, and with the likes of Lonrho charging close to 65 per sqare foot...... why not just convert the whole of town into parking spaces? :-) my2cnts On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Edward Obiko <edobie@gmail.com> wrote:

Me thinks time is rife for some car-pooling *social media* solution. Anyone else seeing the glass half full? However Kenyans have proven to be quite peculiar when it come to projecting expectations... Too many logistics to consider here e.g. Trust issues blah blah blah Who's game though? Any different ideas?

On 10/27/10, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Matatu fare will go app primarily because of simple supply and demand, people with more money (they had 140+roughly 200 bob for transport daily, modest estimates), have been pushed into the now limited matatu's... The can afford to pay more...

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Derrick Wesonga <wesongaderrick@gmail.com>wrote:

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Matatu fare is also likely to go up since they are also affected. Matatus are now paying 4,000 from 2,200 and buses 8,000 from 4,000 _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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I guess the general idea here is not to de-congest the town. The spaces remain the same and more and more kenyans are buying cars. Business men will make up for this by increasing their charges to customers just a bit to cover for this. I guess this decision arises from a budget meeting. They need more money and they have exhausted the avenues of creativity. More people are complying with the by-laws, cant hike business licences some more... so they punish the only people who will comply without question and then compare Nairobi with some city in Europe. *_______________________________________________________________ its ok child, He's heard you * On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Wanjiru Njoroge <wanjirunjoroge@gmail.com>wrote:

Skunks,

The seasonal tickets are supposed to go up from 2k to 3k for private cars. Thats 50% the cumulative daily costs. There more people will opt to go the seasonal way. By so doing Kanju will have slashed the work those yellow kabuti staff do.

My question, is this a way devised to reduce their head count while at the same time ensure that the collections actually reach the council books?

On 10/27/10, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

...

by the way check out this arithmetic.

A standard car is about ten foot by four foot wide, thats fourty square foot. that car paying Ksh 400 a day for thirty days (yeah, i know thats a bit of a stretch) will pay a cool Ksh 12,000 a month for an area that is 40Sq foot.

this computes to about Ksh 300 per square foot.

with this kind of rate, and with the likes of Lonrho charging close to 65 per sqare foot...... why not just convert the whole of town into parking spaces?

:-) my2cnts

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Edward Obiko <edobie@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Me thinks time is rife for some car-pooling *social media* solution. Anyone else seeing the glass half full? However Kenyans have proven to be quite peculiar when it come to projecting expectations... Too many logistics to consider here e.g. Trust issues blah blah blah Who's game though? Any different ideas?

On 10/27/10, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Matatu fare will go app primarily because of simple supply and demand, people with more money (they had 140+roughly 200 bob for transport daily, modest estimates), have been pushed into the now limited matatu's... The can afford to pay more...

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Derrick Wesonga <wesongaderrick@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Matatu fare is also likely to go up since they are also affected. Matatus are now paying 4,000 from 2,200 and buses 8,000 from 4,000 _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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good idea but order of events shld be the other way round.. build good reliable transport..then hike the parking fee.... On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

I still think parking is still very cheap in Nairobi. If I were to get my way, I would fix parking at an hourly rate, say 100bob an hour, and then no one will go to town and simply park their cars there, and then the Kenyans who have stuff to do at the CBD will come and get parking - then, I would improve transportation within the CBD at nearly zero bob, so you won't have a reason to take your car to the CBD if you work there, but thats just in my head, again!!!

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On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:39 AM, joe mwirigi <joemwirigi@gmail.com> wrote:

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I guess the general idea here is not to de-congest the town. The spaces remain the same and more and more kenyans are buying cars. Business men will make up for this by increasing their charges to customers just a bit to cover for this. I guess this decision arises from a budget meeting. They need more money and they have exhausted the avenues of creativity. More people are complying with the by-laws, cant hike business licences some more... so they punish the only people who will comply without question and then compare Nairobi with some city in Europe. _______________________________________________________________ its ok child, He's heard you

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Wanjiru Njoroge < wanjirunjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Skunks,

The seasonal tickets are supposed to go up from 2k to 3k for private cars. Thats 50% the cumulative daily costs. There more people will opt to go the seasonal way. By so doing Kanju will have slashed the work those yellow kabuti staff

do.

...

My question, is this a way devised to reduce their head count while at the same time ensure that the collections actually reach the council books?

On 10/27/10, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

...

by the way check out this arithmetic.

A standard car is about ten foot by four foot wide, thats fourty

square

...

...

foot. that car paying Ksh 400 a day for thirty days (yeah, i know thats a bit of a stretch) will pay a cool Ksh 12,000 a month for an area that is 40Sq foot.

this computes to about Ksh 300 per square foot.

with this kind of rate, and with the likes of Lonrho charging close to 65 per sqare foot...... why not just convert the whole of town into parking spaces?

:-) my2cnts

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Edward Obiko <edobie@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Me thinks time is rife for some car-pooling *social media* solution. Anyone else seeing the glass half full? However Kenyans have proven to be quite peculiar when it come to projecting expectations... Too many logistics to consider here e.g. Trust issues blah blah blah Who's game though? Any different ideas?

On 10/27/10, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Matatu fare will go app primarily because of simple supply and demand, people with more money (they had 140+roughly 200 bob for transport daily, modest estimates), have been pushed into the now limited matatu's... The can afford to pay more...

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Derrick Wesonga <wesongaderrick@gmail.com>wrote:

> Matatu fare is also likely to go up since they are also affected. Matatus > are now paying 4,000 from 2,200 and buses 8,000 from 4,000 > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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@Eric - thanks for pointing that out rightly - the order should be the other way round. ./Ok3ch On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Andrew Kerich <andykerich@gmail.com> wrote:

I concur with the idea of relocating businesses and government offices from the CBD as well as introduce electronic parking meters per hour.

On a lighter note, here is how to deal with kanjo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlLC1Iy1UkE

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On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Eric Mugo <kabugum@gmail.com> wrote:

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good idea but order of events shld be the other way round.. build good reliable transport..then hike the parking fee....

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I still think parking is still very cheap in Nairobi. If I were to get my way, I would fix parking at an hourly rate, say 100bob an hour, and then no one will go to town and simply park their cars there, and then the Kenyans who have stuff to do at the CBD will come and get parking - then, I would improve transportation within the CBD at nearly zero bob, so you won't have a reason to take your car to the CBD if you work there, but thats just in my head, again!!!

./Ok3ch

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:39 AM, joe mwirigi <joemwirigi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I guess the general idea here is not to de-congest the town. The spaces remain the same and more and more kenyans are buying cars. Business men will make up for this by increasing their charges to customers just a bit to cover for this. I guess this decision arises from a budget meeting. They need more money and they have exhausted the avenues of creativity. More people are complying with the by-laws, cant hike business licences some more... so they punish the only people who will comply without question and then compare Nairobi with some city in Europe. _______________________________________________________________ its ok child, He's heard you

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Wanjiru Njoroge <wanjirunjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Skunks,

The seasonal tickets are supposed to go up from 2k to 3k for private cars. Thats 50% the cumulative daily costs. There more people will opt to go the seasonal way. By so doing Kanju will have slashed the work those yellow kabuti staff do.

My question, is this a way devised to reduce their head count while at the same time ensure that the collections actually reach the council books?

On 10/27/10, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

...

by the way check out this arithmetic.

A standard car is about ten foot by four foot wide, thats fourty square foot. that car paying Ksh 400 a day for thirty days (yeah, i know thats a bit of a stretch) will pay a cool Ksh 12,000 a month for an area that is 40Sq foot.

this computes to about Ksh 300 per square foot.

with this kind of rate, and with the likes of Lonrho charging close to 65 per sqare foot...... why not just convert the whole of town into parking spaces?

:-) my2cnts

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Edward Obiko <edobie@gmail.com> wrote:

> Me thinks time is rife for some car-pooling *social media* solution. > Anyone else seeing the glass half full? However Kenyans have proven > to > be quite peculiar when it come to projecting expectations... Too > many > logistics to consider here e.g. Trust issues blah blah blah > Who's game though? Any different ideas? > > On 10/27/10, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote: > > Matatu fare will go app primarily because of simple supply and > > demand, > > people with more money (they had 140+roughly 200 bob for transport > > daily, > > modest estimates), have been pushed into the now limited > > matatu's... > > The > can > > afford to pay more... > > > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Derrick Wesonga > > <wesongaderrick@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >> Matatu fare is also likely to go up since they are also affected. > Matatus > >> are now paying 4,000 from 2,200 and buses 8,000 from 4,000 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > With Regards, > > > > Phares Kariuki > > > > | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | > > Skype: > > kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ | > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > OO > > Omingo Obiko > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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During a bar talk last night on the same, someone made me think about Nairobi in the days when Kenys Bus was working perfectly and transport within the city was somewhat efficient. Maybe the population had not exploded, but something that simple can be used and not necessarily have metro trams & trains. An effective governor will certainly help Nairobi - not the Majiwa & Kisia type of rulers, who have no idea that they are running the city on behalf of Kenyans. ./Ok3ch On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I still think parking is still very cheap in Nairobi. If I were to get my way, I would fix parking at an hourly rate, say 100bob an hour, and then no one will go to town and simply park their cars there, and then the Kenyans who have stuff to do at the CBD will come and get parking - then, I would improve transportation within the CBD at nearly zero bob, so you won't have a reason to take your car to the CBD if you

work there, but thats just in my head, again!!!

Ok3ch, You mean like they do in London, for instance, where it is very expensive to park a personal car within the CBD. However, as Eric Mugo has said, in London you have an almost very efficient transport system in the form of Taxi, Metro Buses and the Tube system. It's almost impossible to arrive late for anything even if you did not use a personal car! Compare that to Nairobi and you see we're looking at things in a very skewed manner. What Mr. Kisia is saying is not that they want to de-ongest the CBD. Noooooo!! I don't know why anyone in this forum is trying to put these words into Kisia's (or NCC's) mouth!! What they have said very clearly is that they want to generate more revenue for NCC to meet their budgets. It's nothing to do with improving anything for the Nairobi residents. The de-congestion of the CBD was a project of the Metropolitan Ministry, which seem to have become dormant, or only knows a thing or two about installing street lights. And BTW, suppose we elected Michael Joseph to run the City for us, or better still, become the Governor of Nairobi County... wouldn't me make big leaps????

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MJ for Nairobi Governor….. you never know he might be tempted. From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:30 AM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Parking Fees Doubled On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: I still think parking is still very cheap in Nairobi. If I were to get my way, I would fix parking at an hourly rate, say 100bob an hour, and then no one will go to town and simply park their cars there, and then the Kenyans who have stuff to do at the CBD will come and get parking - then, I would improve transportation within the CBD at nearly zero bob, so you won't have a reason to take your car to the CBD if you work there, but thats just in my head, again!!! Ok3ch, You mean like they do in London, for instance, where it is very expensive to park a personal car within the CBD. However, as Eric Mugo has said, in London you have an almost very efficient transport system in the form of Taxi, Metro Buses and the Tube system. It's almost impossible to arrive late for anything even if you did not use a personal car! Compare that to Nairobi and you see we're looking at things in a very skewed manner. What Mr. Kisia is saying is not that they want to de-ongest the CBD. Noooooo!! I don't know why anyone in this forum is trying to put these words into Kisia's (or NCC's) mouth!! What they have said very clearly is that they want to generate more revenue for NCC to meet their budgets. It's nothing to do with improving anything for the Nairobi residents. The de-congestion of the CBD was a project of the Metropolitan Ministry, which seem to have become dormant, or only knows a thing or two about installing street lights. And BTW, suppose we elected Michael Joseph to run the City for us, or better still, become the Governor of Nairobi County... wouldn't me make big leaps???? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Antony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com> wrote:

foreigners don't qualify

He has a work permit, and besides, I think MJ might be having Kenyan citizenship. If we can appoint expatriates to TJRC and the rest, which are about shaping the future of Kenya, why not to (just) Kanjo?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

And even if it was a foreigner, so what? it's not like locals have done all that good a job! On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

TJRC act was specific that there must be 3 foreigners :-)

./Ok3ch

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Antony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com>

wrote:

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foreigners don't qualify

He has a work permit, and besides, I think MJ might be having Kenyan citizenship. If we can appoint expatriates to TJRC and the rest, which are about shaping the future of Kenya, why not to (just) Kanjo?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

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Slight relief as the implementation of thus draconian decree is stalled for another 30 days... On 29 October 2010 19:58, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

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TJRC act was specific that there must be 3 foreigners :-)

./Ok3ch

I think MJ is not a foreigner. It's just that his home is in Lewa (I guess) so being the Governor of Nairobi might not be in his interests.

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IF the Nissan Matatus will be banned January 2011 I give you this business idea under a Creative Commons license (attribution required :) The market will be flooded with cheap Nissan Matatus in various conditions so prices for the old Matatus will be very low. Set up a garage specialised in turning old Matatus into: - One Bedroom Safari Vehicles - Spacious four seaters - Fundi vehicle - Regular family cars with great storage ... the opportunities are endless with the expected price drop

I think the old matatus will be sold taken upcountry for use until they are completely unroadworthy; then they can be used for keeping chicken (after fixing wire mesh to the windows) -- Ngũgĩ Kĩmani | Fundi wa Mitambo | 0772 576846 | http://www.mafundi.co.ke/home On 27 October 2010 12:19, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com>wrote:

IF the Nissan Matatus will be banned January 2011 I give you this business idea under a Creative Commons license (attribution required :)

The market will be flooded with cheap Nissan Matatus in various conditions so prices for the old Matatus will be very low.

Set up a garage specialised in turning old Matatus into:

- One Bedroom Safari Vehicles - Spacious four seaters - Fundi vehicle - Regular family cars with great storage

... the opportunities are endless with the expected price drop _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Are matatus getting banned on January 2011 or are registrations stopping meaning those already registered will be allowed to continue working? On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com>wrote:

Is this ban only affecting matatus plying the City routes or does it apply to the entire matatu industry? I like Jonas ideas! :-)

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Ngũgĩ Kĩmani <ngugi@mafundi.co.ke>wrote:

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I think the old matatus will be sold taken upcountry for use until they are completely unroadworthy; then they can be used for keeping chicken (after fixing wire mesh to the windows)

-- Ngũgĩ Kĩmani | Fundi wa Mitambo | 0772 576846 | http://www.mafundi.co.ke/home

On 27 October 2010 12:19, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com>wrote:

...

IF the Nissan Matatus will be banned January 2011 I give you this business idea under a Creative Commons license (attribution required :)

The market will be flooded with cheap Nissan Matatus in various conditions so prices for the old Matatus will be very low.

Set up a garage specialised in turning old Matatus into:

- One Bedroom Safari Vehicles - Spacious four seaters - Fundi vehicle - Regular family cars with great storage

... the opportunities are endless with the expected price drop _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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& motorists will still pay 300kshs for parking? On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Kamau <kamau.daniel@gmail.com>wrote:

The 14 seaters will still operate but only long distance

We will see a flurry of luxury vans plying the long distances to Nakuru, Kisumu, Mombasa.

The victim is actually going to be big buses facing stiff competition

The CBD will decongest as it were

I do hope the council has plans for periphery parking in the outskirts of the city. On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Is this ban only affecting matatus plying the City routes or does it apply to the entire matatu industry? I like Jonas ideas! :-)

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Ngũgĩ Kĩmani <ngugi@mafundi.co.ke>wrote:

...

I think the old matatus will be sold taken upcountry for use until they are completely unroadworthy; then they can be used for keeping chicken (after fixing wire mesh to the windows)

-- Ngũgĩ Kĩmani | Fundi wa Mitambo | 0772 576846 | http://www.mafundi.co.ke/home

On 27 October 2010 12:19, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com>wrote:

...

IF the Nissan Matatus will be banned January 2011 I give you this business idea under a Creative Commons license (attribution required :)

The market will be flooded with cheap Nissan Matatus in various conditions so prices for the old Matatus will be very low.

Set up a garage specialised in turning old Matatus into:

- One Bedroom Safari Vehicles - Spacious four seaters - Fundi vehicle - Regular family cars with great storage

... the opportunities are endless with the expected price drop _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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@Stephen: I think govt is more keen in implementing policies this time round. Look at recent headlines :) -- Ngũgĩ Kĩmani | Fundi wa Mitambo | 0772 576846 | http://www.mafundi.co.ke/home On 27 October 2010 13:25, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> wrote:

This is not the first tym the govt has issued such ideas, there was a similar order for nissans in 2007 with a deadline for march 2008 but we all know what happened

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com>wrote:

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& motorists will still pay 300kshs for parking?

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Kamau <kamau.daniel@gmail.com>wrote:

...

The 14 seaters will still operate but only long distance

We will see a flurry of luxury vans plying the long distances to Nakuru, Kisumu, Mombasa.

The victim is actually going to be big buses facing stiff competition

The CBD will decongest as it were

I do hope the council has plans for periphery parking in the outskirts of the city. On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com

...

wrote:

...

Is this ban only affecting matatus plying the City routes or does it apply to the entire matatu industry? I like Jonas ideas! :-)

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Ngũgĩ Kĩmani <ngugi@mafundi.co.ke>wrote:

...

I think the old matatus will be sold taken upcountry for use until they are completely unroadworthy; then they can be used for keeping chicken (after fixing wire mesh to the windows)

-- Ngũgĩ Kĩmani | Fundi wa Mitambo | 0772 576846 | http://www.mafundi.co.ke/home

On 27 October 2010 12:19, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:

...

IF the Nissan Matatus will be banned January 2011 I give you this business idea under a Creative Commons license (attribution required :)

The market will be flooded with cheap Nissan Matatus in various conditions so prices for the old Matatus will be very low.

Set up a garage specialised in turning old Matatus into:

- One Bedroom Safari Vehicles - Spacious four seaters - Fundi vehicle - Regular family cars with great storage

... the opportunities are endless with the expected price drop _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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"The 14 seaters will still operate but only long distance" "I think the old matatus will be sold taken upcountry for use until they are completely unroadworthy" I think that even if half of the Matatus will be switching to other routes there will be plenty left at throw away prices. It's not like there all of a sudden will be a huge demand for long distance transport. "This is not the first tym the govt has issued such ideas, there was a similar order for nissans in 2007 with a deadline for march 2008 but we all know what happened" "IF the Nissan Matatus will be banned January 2011" ... On 10/27/2010 02:16 PM, Ngũgĩ Kĩmani wrote:

@Stephen: I think govt is more keen in implementing policies this time round. Look at recent headlines :)

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On 27 October 2010 13:25, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm <http://kamitu.sm>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> wrote:

This is not the first tym the govt has issued such ideas, there was a similar order for nissans in 2007 with a deadline for march 2008 but we all know what happened

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Lawrence Kago <@gmail.com <mailto:@gmail.com>> wrote:

& motorists will still pay 300kshs for parking?

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Kamau <kamau.daniel@gmail.com <mailto:l@gmail.com>> wrote:

The 14 seaters will still operate but only long distance We will see a flurry of luxury vans plying the long distances to Nakuru, Kisumu, Mombasa. The victim is actually going to be big buses facing stiff competition The CBD will decongest as it were I do hope the council has plans for periphery parking in the outskirts of the city. On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com <mailto:gregory.okoth@gmail.com>> wrote:

Is this ban only affecting matatus plying the City routes or does it apply to the entire matatu industry? I like Jonas ideas! :-)

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Ngũgĩ Kĩmani <ngugi@mafundi.co.ke <mailto:ngugi@mafundi.co.ke>> wrote:

I think the old matatus will be sold taken upcountry for use until they are completely unroadworthy; then they can be used for keeping chicken (after fixing wire mesh to the windows)

-- Ngũgĩ Kĩmani | Fundi wa Mitambo | 0772 576846 | http://www.mafundi.co.ke/home

On 27 October 2010 12:19, Jonas | Lamu Software <@lamusoftware.com <mailto:@lamusoftware.com>> wrote:

IF the Nissan Matatus will be banned January 2011 I give you this business idea under a Creative Commons license (attribution required :)

The market will be flooded with cheap Nissan Matatus in various conditions so prices for the old Matatus will be very low.

Set up a garage specialised in turning old Matatus into:

- One Bedroom Safari Vehicles - Spacious four seaters - Fundi vehicle - Regular family cars with great storage

... the opportunities are endless with the expected price drop

People use own cars for comfort,, compare travelling on rainy days to e.g church -- not fun ! I have always been an advocate of moving things away from CBD,, it started with Westlands,, but since 2008, the hussle and bustle has also caught up with Westlands. I remember in 2003-2005 when we used to walk to westy from campo for lack of mats in the inside routes. There were very few private vehicles on the road siku hizo...