
What will it take for local media outlets with free-to-air channels to stream live on Youtube like Al Jazeera does...making use of Google's extensive CDN? I might have heard of some Kenyan-based initiatives elsewhere but most I've seen do not work after some time. A lot of media is consumed online by the local netizens (hands up those who watch more video daily on computer/laptop/ipad etc than on TV), so this is only a logical step to follow. And no, select video uploads to Youtube channels does not count. Suggestions, anyone?

Also interested in knowing how this can be achieved... On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
What will it take for local media outlets with free-to-air channels to stream live on Youtube like Al Jazeera does...making use of Google's extensive CDN? I might have heard of some Kenyan-based initiatives elsewhere but most I've seen do not work after some time.
A lot of media is consumed online by the local netizens (hands up those who watch more video daily on computer/laptop/ipad etc than on TV), so this is only a logical step to follow. And no, select video uploads to Youtube channels does not count.
Suggestions, anyone?
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Also interested in knowing how this can be achieved...
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
What will it take for local media outlets with free-to-air channels to stream live on Youtube like Al Jazeera does...making use of Google's extensive CDN? I might have heard of some Kenyan-based initiatives elsewhere but most I've seen do not work after some time.
A lot of media is consumed online by the local netizens (hands up those who watch more video daily on computer/laptop/ipad etc than on TV), so this is only a logical step to follow. And no, select video uploads to Youtube channels does not count.
Suggestions, anyone?
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This is pretty simply achievable. All you need is; a) huge chunk of bandwidth to support the publishing point b) probably a license to rebroadcast over the internet. Then you can also do it from the comfort of your house, should you meet both a & b I think its lack of initiative from the media houses, but then again what is in it for them to pursue streaming, i.e who is going to pay for it? BTW Mark where can I get proper info on Google CDN...please no JFGI Regards, -- Lusiola Brian |3 R 1 /-\ |\|

better yet ip tv , where if i want to watch a movie at 9 pm then watch the news at 10pm its its just a matter of picking the items .... :) On 2/24/11, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Also interested in knowing how this can be achieved...
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
What will it take for local media outlets with free-to-air channels to stream live on Youtube like Al Jazeera does...making use of Google's extensive CDN? I might have heard of some Kenyan-based initiatives elsewhere but most I've seen do not work after some time.
A lot of media is consumed online by the local netizens (hands up those who watch more video daily on computer/laptop/ipad etc than on TV), so this is only a logical step to follow. And no, select video uploads to Youtube channels does not count.
Suggestions, anyone?
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This is pretty simply achievable. All you need is; a) huge chunk of bandwidth to support the publishing point b) probably a license to rebroadcast over the internet.
Then you can also do it from the comfort of your house, should you meet both a & b I think its lack of initiative from the media houses, but then again what is in it for them to pursue streaming, i.e who is going to pay for it? BTW Mark where can I get proper info on Google CDN...please no JFGI
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i think capitalfm streams KBC - parliament live check this out http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/parliament/index.php On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:15 PM, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com>wrote:
better yet ip tv , where if i want to watch a movie at 9 pm then watch the news at 10pm its its just a matter of picking the items .... :)
On 2/24/11, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Also interested in knowing how this can be achieved...
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
What will it take for local media outlets with free-to-air channels to stream live on Youtube like Al Jazeera does...making use of Google's extensive CDN? I might have heard of some Kenyan-based initiatives elsewhere but most I've seen do not work after some time.
A lot of media is consumed online by the local netizens (hands up those who watch more video daily on computer/laptop/ipad etc than on TV), so this is only a logical step to follow. And no, select video uploads to Youtube channels does not count.
Suggestions, anyone?
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This is pretty simply achievable. All you need is; a) huge chunk of bandwidth to support the publishing point b) probably a license to rebroadcast over the internet.
Then you can also do it from the comfort of your house, should you meet both a & b I think its lack of initiative from the media houses, but then again what is in it for them to pursue streaming, i.e who is going to pay for it? BTW Mark where can I get proper info on Google CDN...please no JFGI
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@Brian JFGI still seems to be the way to go on Google CDN :) Apart from making use of their API on loading popular JavaScript libraries I haven't read much else. Moving on, can't we make use of ReelForge's database? I know there are terabytes upon terabytes...but then again you'll counter with "we don't have enough bandwidth to stream"...anyway, that's the best option now if we want to see any past day's news! :)

Brian, But they don't gain anything from the ordinary mwananchi who will buy a TV set from River Road and just tune in for free. Me thots. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Also interested in knowing how this can be achieved...
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
What will it take for local media outlets with free-to-air channels to stream live on Youtube like Al Jazeera does...making use of Google's extensive CDN? I might have heard of some Kenyan-based initiatives elsewhere but most I've seen do not work after some time.
A lot of media is consumed online by the local netizens (hands up those who watch more video daily on computer/laptop/ipad etc than on TV), so this is only a logical step to follow. And no, select video uploads to Youtube channels does not count.
Suggestions, anyone?
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This is pretty simply achievable. All you need is; a) huge chunk of bandwidth to support the publishing point b) probably a license to rebroadcast over the internet.
Then you can also do it from the comfort of your house, should you meet both a & b I think its lack of initiative from the media houses, but then again what is in it for them to pursue streaming, i.e who is going to pay for it? BTW Mark where can I get proper info on Google CDN...please no JFGI
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@Rocky...that would be the way to go if I was so inclined to be a bit selfish and just look out for myself. :) However the perspective I'm considering is one in which the media house raises its stature regionally purely on the basis of streaming online in addition to availability through various means. Take the example of Al Jazeera - they are largely unavailable on cable and satellite in the US<http://english.aljazeera.net/demandaljazeera/>but by having streamed live the Egypt revolution on their English channel via YouTube they raised demand there. And in the same breath, it is somehow nipping at CNN's heels... If a local station takes a similar approach, more people will be inclined (diaspora et al) to watch them whenever they cover Kenyan events live, say elections and what not. By building such a reputation they also increase viewership locally and internationally - and that basically is the metric they are so pegged upon to justify their ad charges as they also will be able to accommodate regional ad clients which we don't see much of. I was in Kigali recently and stepped into a simple mkahawa to have a taste of the local feel...and there I find guys watching Citizen via DSTV. They only have one local station, whose content IMHO does not compare to what we have here. It's called VARIETY. We have clout regionally in aspects that we don't recognize and exploit.

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@Rocky...that would be the way to go if I was so inclined to be a bit selfish and just look out for myself. :)
However the perspective I'm considering is one in which the media house raises its stature regionally purely on the basis of streaming online in addition to availability through various means. Take the example of Al Jazeera - they are largely unavailable on cable and satellite in the US<http://english.aljazeera.net/demandaljazeera/>but by having streamed live the Egypt revolution on their English channel via YouTube they raised demand there. And in the same breath, it is somehow nipping at CNN's heels...
If a local station takes a similar approach, more people will be inclined (diaspora et al) to watch them whenever they cover Kenyan events live, say elections and what not. By building such a reputation they also increase viewership locally and internationally - and that basically is the metric they are so pegged upon to justify their ad charges as they also will be able to accommodate regional ad clients which we don't see much of.
I was in Kigali recently and stepped into a simple mkahawa to have a taste of the local feel...and there I find guys watching Citizen via DSTV. They only have one local station, whose content IMHO does not compare to what we have here. It's called VARIETY. We have clout regionally in aspects that we don't recognize and exploit.
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YAY! (now looking for that little banana character to post here) Now all the the others can push to ustream.tv...shouldn't cost anything above the current internet fees!

Haiya, you guys cut the live stream just as the news ended! Aiii...

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Haggai, For now just get a TV card for your laptop or desktop till Media houses go the IP way. As for your Ipad/Iphone/Android, am sure some dude in River Road is busy making an ingenious adapter to integrate...[?] On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
What will it take for local media outlets with free-to-air channels to stream live on Youtube like Al Jazeera does...making use of Google's extensive CDN? I might have heard of some Kenyan-based initiatives elsewhere but most I've seen do not work after some time.
A lot of media is consumed online by the local netizens (hands up those who watch more video daily on computer/laptop/ipad etc than on TV), so this is only a logical step to follow. And no, select video uploads to Youtube channels does not count.
Suggestions, anyone?
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Brian L
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Brian Ngure
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Erick Njenga
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Geofrey Karani
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Haggai Nyang
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Larry Madowo
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martow
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Rocky Mbithi