Re: [Skunkworks] SIP Trunk Providers

On 21 February 2013 11:21, Vincent Thuo <vthuo@iwayafrica.net> wrote:
Hi Washington,
Hi Vincent,
Apologies for the late response.
My request to take this offline was to actually provide you a test SIP trunk to get a feel of the service as we tie up on the commercials.
The late response is normal - Kenyan style. Please note that what I required has nothing to do with a test SIP trunk. I actually do not need any tests for this. I am looking for a service that works and the provider should be sure they do this. In my case, I am not looking for an equivalent to some services we know of on this forum - which sometimes works and sometimes don't. This is a critical communication service and I simply don't see any room for taking chances.
Basically, the costs breakdown is as follows:
- Set up cost of KES 2,000 for a 5 channels SIP trunk (can support upto 5 concurrent calls) - Monthly charge of KES 1,000 - 1 Nairobi DID (IP landline) - All mentioned destinations will cost you KES 1.50 per minute
Which *mentioned* destinations are these you refer to? I'd like to know what my costs will be for making calls to Europe, the US, Asia... so I'd appreciate a table of rates to the various destinations worldwide.
- Local calling to Safaricom, Airtel @ KES 3.00 per minute - Rating of calls is on a per second basis (1/1)
Please note that the channels can be upgraded at no extra set up costs upon client's request.
Let's say I take 30 channels. What is the cost? What are the monthly recurring costs?
I can provide you with a demo if interested.
Not in a rush. I actually don't require any incentive to sign up. The costs will determine whether or not I sign up. The service quality will determine whether or not I stay on. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.

Maze kufanya biashara na Wash jo! Vincent, just call Wash or give him a call mwelewane. @Wash, thanks for keeping this above board On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On 21 February 2013 11:21, Vincent Thuo <vthuo@iwayafrica.net> wrote:
Hi Washington,
Hi Vincent,
Apologies for the late response.
My request to take this offline was to actually provide you a test SIP trunk to get a feel of the service as we tie up on the commercials.
The late response is normal - Kenyan style.
Please note that what I required has nothing to do with a test SIP trunk. I actually do not need any tests for this. I am looking for a service that works and the provider should be sure they do this. In my case, I am not looking for an equivalent to some services we know of on this forum - which sometimes works and sometimes don't. This is a critical communication service and I simply don't see any room for taking chances.
Basically, the costs breakdown is as follows:
- Set up cost of KES 2,000 for a 5 channels SIP trunk (can support upto 5 concurrent calls) - Monthly charge of KES 1,000 - 1 Nairobi DID (IP landline) - All mentioned destinations will cost you KES 1.50 per minute
Which *mentioned* destinations are these you refer to? I'd like to know what my costs will be for making calls to Europe, the US, Asia... so I'd appreciate a table of rates to the various destinations worldwide.
- Local calling to Safaricom, Airtel @ KES 3.00 per minute - Rating of calls is on a per second basis (1/1)
Please note that the channels can be upgraded at no extra set up costs upon client's request.
Let's say I take 30 channels. What is the cost? What are the monthly recurring costs?
I can provide you with a demo if interested.
Not in a rush. I actually don't require any incentive to sign up. The costs will determine whether or not I sign up. The service quality will determine whether or not I stay on.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
Maze kufanya biashara na Wash jo!
Vincent, just call Wash or give him a call mwelewane. @Wash, thanks for keeping this above board
Wash might record the call and upload it!! Anyway, kudos Wash. This is free training for negotiating. Regards, Steve

Is this recommendation anchored on the premise that Kenyan's dislike for transparency? Personally, I believe in dealing transparently with suppliers. I don't get it when someone recommends that this be dealt with via a phone call when I myself want a written trail for reference. On 21 February 2013 14:51, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
Maze kufanya biashara na Wash jo!
Vincent, just call Wash or give him a call mwelewane. @Wash, thanks for keeping this above board
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On 21 February 2013 11:21, Vincent Thuo <vthuo@iwayafrica.net> wrote:
Hi Washington,
Hi Vincent,
Apologies for the late response.
My request to take this offline was to actually provide you a test SIP trunk to get a feel of the service as we tie up on the commercials.
The late response is normal - Kenyan style.
Please note that what I required has nothing to do with a test SIP trunk. I actually do not need any tests for this. I am looking for a service that works and the provider should be sure they do this. In my case, I am not looking for an equivalent to some services we know of on this forum - which sometimes works and sometimes don't. This is a critical communication service and I simply don't see any room for taking chances.
Basically, the costs breakdown is as follows:
- Set up cost of KES 2,000 for a 5 channels SIP trunk (can support upto 5 concurrent calls) - Monthly charge of KES 1,000 - 1 Nairobi DID (IP landline) - All mentioned destinations will cost you KES 1.50 per minute
Which *mentioned* destinations are these you refer to? I'd like to know what my costs will be for making calls to Europe, the US, Asia... so I'd appreciate a table of rates to the various destinations worldwide.
- Local calling to Safaricom, Airtel @ KES 3.00 per minute - Rating of calls is on a per second basis (1/1)
Please note that the channels can be upgraded at no extra set up costs upon client's request.
Let's say I take 30 channels. What is the cost? What are the monthly recurring costs?
I can provide you with a demo if interested.
Not in a rush. I actually don't require any incentive to sign up. The costs will determine whether or not I sign up. The service quality will determine whether or not I stay on.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.

@Wash kuwa mpole. Human interaction is very important even to a supplier. They would feel appreciated for their service and will offer you better support. Best Regards, Dickson. ---- http://qhim.wordpress.com Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:30:55 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SIP Trunk Providers _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Dickson, Perhaps I don't appear "mpole" now - whatever that means. I will be later once I settle for the right provider. They are many. I'll pick the best - and the best must be able to take crap from customers at some point because they are not going to be giving free service, BTW. Let me put in in kiswahili - pesa hubembelezwa. By end of week next week, I'll be having a provider and will share with you who it is. On 21 February 2013 22:34, Dickson <dhikims@gmail.com> wrote:
@Wash kuwa mpole.
Human interaction is very important even to a supplier. They would feel appreciated for their service and will offer you better support.
Best Regards,
Dickson.
---- http://qhim.wordpress.com
Sent from my BlackBerry®
-----Original Message----- From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:30:55 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SIP Trunk Providers
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.

Wash, I will be glad to hear about the service you get. All the best. Best Regards, Dickson. ---- http://qhim.wordpress.com Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:30:59 To: <dhikims@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SIP Trunk Providers Dickson, Perhaps I don't appear "mpole" now - whatever that means. I will be later once I settle for the right provider. They are many. I'll pick the best - and the best must be able to take crap from customers at some point because they are not going to be giving free service, BTW. Let me put in in kiswahili - pesa hubembelezwa. By end of week next week, I'll be having a provider and will share with you who it is. On 21 February 2013 22:34, Dickson <dhikims@gmail.com> wrote:
@Wash kuwa mpole.
Human interaction is very important even to a supplier. They would feel appreciated for their service and will offer you better support.
Best Regards,
Dickson.
---- http://qhim.wordpress.com
Sent from my BlackBerry®
-----Original Message----- From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:30:55 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SIP Trunk Providers
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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