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Look for DoubleTake, but it doent come cheap Regards Jared Koyier On 20 February 2012 12:31, Joseph Murigi <jsphmurigi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Skunks, Need a solution for mirroring a windows server to a remote site (the way banks and universities work). Any ideas?
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What of Acronis True Image or Symantec products? there is also another one called Evault InfoStage, for server system state and data backups On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com>wrote:
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On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:31, Joseph Murigi <jsphmurigi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Skunks, Need a solution for mirroring a windows server to a remote site (the way banks and universities work). Any ideas?
Okay. I haven't anay experience how Banks & Universities work, but it appears to me that you have a lead on this. Why not ask them what they use? In the general look if things though, I'd love to understand what you intend to achieve with this mirroring and I can figure out either a @Steve way of doing it or an @Aki way :-) Sorry - several @Aki ways have been given to you already, so unless you need some @Steve (I belong to the school of thought) ways of doing the same, I should assume you are already sorted! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
Hi @Wash, just some comments, not a thread hijack. :-) In as much as I try to crusade for local ICT software/hardware/specialist development, am also stuck in the deepest end of the wells in the consumer chain. Meaning even I too cannot create everything and would have to find a software to make things work, as I do with e.g Acronis. It will be impossible to produce everything--literally--whether we have another 100 years to do so because the ICT sector is too diverse. What are our chances to be producers, not assemblers, because of the style of economic system? Around 0.0001%. Based on this figure, I'd not be surprised that the Tech Cities will be 99% extensions of large international or local corporates looking at local and regional markets, while also looking at local hires to fill the usual positions except core production because of boxed units. That is why most of all other sectors like marketing/sales/finance/legal/ICT Hardware are doing well and the education system based to produce this outcome each year. But nowhere is there any room for local ICT production. Which also begs the question as to why our local dot net programmers have not created software on windows systems such as the one in question on this thread. But try we must if we can, who knows things could change in the future. * *:-) Rgds. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:31, Joseph Murigi <jsphmurigi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Skunks, Need a solution for mirroring a windows server to a remote site (the way banks and universities work). Any ideas?
Okay. I haven't anay experience how Banks & Universities work, but it appears to me that you have a lead on this. Why not ask them what they use?
In the general look if things though, I'd love to understand what you intend to achieve with this mirroring and I can figure out either a @Steve way of doing it or an @Aki way :-) Sorry - several @Aki ways have been given to you already, so unless you need some @Steve (I belong to the school of thought) ways of doing the same, I should assume you are already sorted!
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@Joseph Kindly follow this link http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-reliable-windows-server-back... .You might like one of the solutions described therein. Disclaimer : I've not tried the systems myself! :) On 20 February 2012 21:05, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi @Wash, just some comments, not a thread hijack. :-)
In as much as I try to crusade for local ICT software/hardware/specialist development, am also stuck in the deepest end of the wells in the consumer chain. Meaning even I too cannot create everything and would have to find a software to make things work, as I do with e.g Acronis. It will be impossible to produce everything--literally--whether we have another 100 years to do so because the ICT sector is too diverse. What are our chances to be producers, not assemblers, because of the style of economic system? Around 0.0001%. Based on this figure, I'd not be surprised that the Tech Cities will be 99% extensions of large international or local corporates looking at local and regional markets, while also looking at local hires to fill the usual positions except core production because of boxed units. That is why most of all other sectors like marketing/sales/finance/legal/ICT Hardware are doing well and the education system based to produce this outcome each year. But nowhere is there any room for local ICT production.
Which also begs the question as to why our local dot net programmers have not created software on windows systems such as the one in question on this thread. But try we must if we can, who knows things could change in the future. * *:-)
Rgds.
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On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:31, Joseph Murigi <jsphmurigi@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Skunks, Need a solution for mirroring a windows server to a remote site (the way banks and universities work). Any ideas?
Okay. I haven't anay experience how Banks & Universities work, but it appears to me that you have a lead on this. Why not ask them what they use?
In the general look if things though, I'd love to understand what you intend to achieve with this mirroring and I can figure out either a @Steve way of doing it or an @Aki way :-) Sorry - several @Aki ways have been given to you already, so unless you need some @Steve (I belong to the school of thought) ways of doing the same, I should assume you are already sorted!
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Aki, Your premise sounds good in theory. I agree with the general thoughts around local production and innovation. My issue though is that your suggestions lack basic praxis. There is no hard and fast rule on innovation. The chinese started out from what you call an evil position. Getting HQ's of multinationals in their countries. They learned. They copied. Think Lenovo, ASUS etc. What you are suggesting is putting the cart before the horse. We have technology needs *now* that cannot wait for the local innovation cycle. What we should be looking at is ensuring that all the companies that get consulting contracts etc are local. Not that all the equipment and code is made in Kenya. Apple does *not* build everything in the US. Even then, we *don't* have to be the next Silicon Valley. It's not our God given right. We don't have to build the next Shenzen. There are different paths to financial and technology prosperity. We could build our own Wipro (that has higher revenues than HTC) - no innovation, primarily services), and still be a tech hub. We just need to realize that there is no hard and fast rule on how tech is supposed to develop in Kenya and give guys the breathing room they need. If you build a great product, people will come. M-Pesa did not have a lobby, asking guys to ditch banks. Apple does not even have presence in Africa, much less Kenya. It's up to us/policy makers/educators etc to figure out how to create a robust culture of discipline (yes, it's needed, think Job's in his 20's), design, business acumen and technical innovation to build products people will want to use. The other way (forcing everyone to use half baked local produce) will simply skew the incentive structure (the producer does not have to build a great product, he has a guaranteed market). Unless your model for innovation is KPLC, this is not a model that works. The local devs/businessmen etc need to see that there is money to be made, they will come to the table. So all I kindly request, please, cease the flame wars, they are not conducive for any form of meaningful discourse, realize that it's a case of five blind men and an elephant. Nobody is wrong. Different perspectives. Who know's, we may strike oil and all this tech talk will be passe as we morph into the 'Crude oil Savannah'. -- Regards Phares Kaboro Kariuki --Sent from my BlackBerry®-- -----Original Message----- From: aki <aki275@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:05:49 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Server Mirroring Software _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
@Phares, you have my commitment that flame wars have ceased for the sake of sanity and respect for others on the list. My comments will now only focus on the Technology Producers Group Thread and the local crusade will continue from there with a innovation or manufacturing view because even if that 0.0001% chance exists, we should hope to make the jump at some point in the future. :-) @Wash, agreed that on your points. You will find me at the virtual TPG thread. :-)
@Aki - I don't know of many single programmers who have created a commercial software "single-handedly". I know some guys who have created open source software single-handedly, but they admit to code reuse, so in actual sense, they haven't quite done it single-handedly per se. You know Timo Sirainen (Dovecot), Philip Hazel (Exim), Wietse Venema (Postfix), just to mention a few. Microsoft has created Windows and a couple other software, but you know how many thousands of programmers are involved in that. You say that "I try to crusade for local ICT software/hardware/specialist development", but you haven't tried to assemble the team to achieve that, and worse still, you remain faceless... I am not sure how to pull you out of that well, my brother. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 21:05, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi @Wash, just some comments, not a thread hijack. :-)
In as much as I try to crusade for local ICT software/hardware/specialist development, am also stuck in the deepest end of the wells in the consumer chain. Meaning even I too cannot create everything and would have to find a software to make things work, as I do with e.g Acronis. It will be impossible to produce everything--literally--whether we have another 100 years to do so because the ICT sector is too diverse. What are our chances to be producers, not assemblers, because of the style of economic system? Around 0.0001%. Based on this figure, I'd not be surprised that the Tech Cities will be 99% extensions of large international or local corporates looking at local and regional markets, while also looking at local hires to fill the usual positions except core production because of boxed units. That is why most of all other sectors like marketing/sales/finance/legal/ICT Hardware are doing well and the education system based to produce this outcome each year. But nowhere is there any room for local ICT production.
Which also begs the question as to why our local dot net programmers have not created software on windows systems such as the one in question on this thread. But try we must if we can, who knows things could change in the future. * *:-)
Rgds.
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:31, Joseph Murigi <jsphmurigi@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Skunks, Need a solution for mirroring a windows server to a remote site (the way banks and universities work). Any ideas?
Okay. I haven't anay experience how Banks & Universities work, but it appears to me that you have a lead on this. Why not ask them what they use?
In the general look if things though, I'd love to understand what you intend to achieve with this mirroring and I can figure out either a @Steve way of doing it or an @Aki way :-) Sorry - several @Aki ways have been given to you already, so unless you need some @Steve (I belong to the school of thought) ways of doing the same, I should assume you are already sorted!
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