@Phares, you have my commitment that flame wars have ceased for the sake of sanity and respect for others on the list. My comments will now only focus on the Technology Producers Group Thread and the local crusade will continue from there with a innovation or manufacturing view because even if that 0.0001% chance exists, we should hope to make the jump at some point in the future. :-)

@Wash, agreed that on your points. You will find me at the virtual TPG thread. :-)