I've been looking for a e-book reader smart phone that has a display good enough so as not to stress your sight. My first Nokia smart phone device to have USB charging. *Pros :* - 30GB built-in - qwerty keyboard - Battery life is good - 2 built-in speakers, good for FM and music - Touch screen - Very good call quality sound - Inscreen widgets make it easy to add application and content shortcuts - Gmail app for gmail emails - 5Mp camera - Keylock - Proximity sensor works very well during calls *Cons:* - Had to purchase PDF reader - Had to purchase Quick Office to edit files In the box you also get a car charger and other goodies.
Aki, Am actually using the phone.Another con is the battery life.Not so good esp. If you are an internet person.Its just a mess.I think thats where the berry beats the phone.O'wise its good. On 28/09/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
I've been looking for a e-book reader smart phone that has a display good enough so as not to stress your sight. My first Nokia smart phone device to have USB charging.
*Pros :* - 30GB built-in - qwerty keyboard - Battery life is good - 2 built-in speakers, good for FM and music - Touch screen - Very good call quality sound - Inscreen widgets make it easy to add application and content shortcuts - Gmail app for gmail emails - 5Mp camera - Keylock - Proximity sensor works very well during calls
*Cons:* - Had to purchase PDF reader - Had to purchase Quick Office to edit files
In the box you also get a car charger and other goodies.
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@james am using the phone , the trick with the battery life is download a new version of the software using pc suite it stays for sooooo long its a great phone especially the dstv part :) On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:22 AM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Aki,
Am actually using the phone.Another con is the battery life.Not so good esp. If you are an internet person.Its just a mess.I think thats where the berry beats the phone.O'wise its good.
On 28/09/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
I've been looking for a e-book reader smart phone that has a display good enough so as not to stress your sight. My first Nokia smart phone device to have USB charging.
*Pros :* - 30GB built-in - qwerty keyboard - Battery life is good - 2 built-in speakers, good for FM and music - Touch screen - Very good call quality sound - Inscreen widgets make it easy to add application and content shortcuts - Gmail app for gmail emails - 5Mp camera - Keylock - Proximity sensor works very well during calls
*Cons:* - Had to purchase PDF reader - Had to purchase Quick Office to edit files
In the box you also get a car charger and other goodies.
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@Imelda, you are right on the software. Mine auto updated to version 12.0.026 and it works better. To check version : *#0000# On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@james am using the phone , the trick with the battery life is download a new version of the software using pc suite it stays for sooooo long
its a great phone especially the dstv part :)
@aki just wondering when creating a mobile website is the trick in the css or u create two sites one for pc users and the other redirect every time some one browses via mobile ? ? On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Imelda, you are right on the software. Mine auto updated to version 12.0.026 and it works better. To check version : *#0000#
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@james am using the phone , the trick with the battery life is download a new version of the software using pc suite it stays for sooooo long
its a great phone especially the dstv part :)
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I've not yet reached that part of the sites as I'm working on the lower layer of CDN via secure and non-secure. Can you not use plugins to initiate the pull sequence, then push will work fine? On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:00 PM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki just wondering when creating a mobile website is the trick in the css or u create two sites one for pc users and the other redirect every time some one browses via mobile ? ?
Am using the phone, @Aki, how did u say you update? On 9/28/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
I've not yet reached that part of the sites as I'm working on the lower layer of CDN via secure and non-secure. Can you not use plugins to initiate the pull sequence, then push will work fine?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:00 PM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki just wondering when creating a mobile website is the trick in the css or u create two sites one for pc users and the other redirect every time some one browses via mobile ? ?
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@Chuks, use the Nokia software updater that's included in the install CD. Or you can download directly from Nokia. Once the updater picks the update, it will automatically prompt you for conencting the phone via cable to begin the process. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia < chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
Am using the phone, @Aki, how did u say you update?
That means i need windows to do that........ unless i do it straight from the phone. On 9/28/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Chuks, use the Nokia software updater that's included in the install CD. Or you can download directly from Nokia. Once the updater picks the update, it will automatically prompt you for conencting the phone via cable to begin the process.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia < chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
Am using the phone, @Aki, how did u say you update?
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I see the problem. Unfortuantely, I don't think any telco does OTA services but I saw the handset on safaricom ad page. Maybe they provide OTA updates if you buy from them. BTW, this is another interesting thing then. Do telcos like provide any OTA services to contract clients? QuickOffice had an free update for Nokia E-Series users, do such things get implemented here? On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia < chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
That means i need windows to do that........ unless i do it straight from the phone.
Aki, Please get me a link,because I really want to do it.Am so bothered by carrying chargers,data cables and flashdisks to install the ovi to charge my phone.As we talk my phone is plugged in the car charger.woah, regards, On 28/09/2009, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
That means i need windows to do that........ unless i do it straight from the phone.
On 9/28/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Chuks, use the Nokia software updater that's included in the install CD. Or you can download directly from Nokia. Once the updater picks the update, it will automatically prompt you for conencting the phone via cable to begin the process.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia < chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
Am using the phone, @Aki, how did u say you update?
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@aki how did u buy ur n97 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:59 PM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Aki,
Please get me a link,because I really want to do it.Am so bothered by carrying chargers,data cables and flashdisks to install the ovi to charge my phone.As we talk my phone is plugged in the car charger.woah,
regards,
On 28/09/2009, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
That means i need windows to do that........ unless i do it straight from the phone.
On 9/28/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Chuks, use the Nokia software updater that's included in the install CD. Or you can download directly from Nokia. Once the updater picks the update, it will automatically prompt you for conencting the phone via cable to begin the process.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia < chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
Am using the phone, @Aki, how did u say you update?
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To detect mobile devices, you can use a php spript that queries the browser and redirects mobile devices On 28/09/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Imelda, I used a led flashlight, a rungu and waited for someone.... :-)) just kidding,
Got mine from Midcom who are Nokia authorised.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki how did u buy ur n97
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On the updates, OTA should work fine. Did work on Zain for 5800 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
To detect mobile devices, you can use a php spript that queries the browser and redirects mobile devices
On 28/09/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Imelda, I used a led flashlight, a rungu and waited for someone.... :-)) just kidding,
Got mine from Midcom who are Nokia authorised.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki how did u buy ur n97
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On the updates, OTA should work fine. Did work on Zain for 5800
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
To detect mobile devices, you can use a php spript that queries the browser and redirects mobile devices
On 28/09/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Imelda, I used a led flashlight, a rungu and waited for someone.... :-)) just kidding,
Got mine from Midcom who are Nokia authorised.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki how did u buy ur n97
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Try this for the N97 updater : http://europe.nokia.com/get-support-and-software/download-software/device-so...
@I.Ati you could go both ways... it all depends on the content you want to serve to mobile users as opposed to what you want to serve to Desktop users. so if you have totally different content or the website has been developed too rigidly etc you may need a different version of the mobile site altogether. however if the content is from the same source and your site has been designed well, using a specific css for the mobile version and another for the desktop version would be the way to go... you could even have another css for a print version. Anyway whichever way you choose to go you will need to be able to detect the user-agent to be able to serve up the right content. Microsoft came up with browscap.dll and an updateable browscap.ini file that maintains the browser information. since they didn't do a good job in keeping it up to date, it was left athe mercy of any Tom, Dick and Harry to keep the ini file up-to-date. Gary Kieth took up the initiative and i think he has been doing a good job at it and he took the trouble of providing a way to use the browscap.ini file without relying on your webhost to keep an updated copy. you can download the files from here http://browsers.garykeith.com/downloads.asp and incorporate the pluggin into your sites. I. Ati wrote:
@aki just wondering when creating a mobile website is the trick in the css or u create two sites one for pc users and the other redirect every time some one browses via mobile ? ?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com <mailto:aki275@googlemail.com>> wrote:
@Imelda, you are right on the software. Mine auto updated to version 12.0.026 and it works better. To check version : *#0000#
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com <mailto:mueni0@gmail.com>> wrote:
@james am using the phone , the trick with the battery life is download a new version of the software using pc suite it stays for sooooo long
its a great phone especially the dstv part :)
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@Aki, seems like u understand the phone well. Well i have one question, though am trying to figure it out too. When SSHing i need to Ctlr C, which keys should i press, eg i have done top, and i need to go back On 9/29/09, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@I.Ati you could go both ways... it all depends on the content you want to serve to mobile users as opposed to what you want to serve to Desktop users. so if you have totally different content or the website has been developed too rigidly etc you may need a different version of the mobile site altogether. however if the content is from the same source and your site has been designed well, using a specific css for the mobile version and another for the desktop version would be the way to go... you could even have another css for a print version.
Anyway whichever way you choose to go you will need to be able to detect the user-agent to be able to serve up the right content. Microsoft came up with browscap.dll and an updateable browscap.ini file that maintains the browser information. since they didn't do a good job in keeping it up to date, it was left athe mercy of any Tom, Dick and Harry to keep the ini file up-to-date.
Gary Kieth took up the initiative and i think he has been doing a good job at it and he took the trouble of providing a way to use the browscap.ini file without relying on your webhost to keep an updated copy. you can download the files from here http://browsers.garykeith.com/downloads.asp and incorporate the pluggin into your sites.
I. Ati wrote:
@aki just wondering when creating a mobile website is the trick in the css or u create two sites one for pc users and the other redirect every time some one browses via mobile ? ?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com <mailto:aki275@googlemail.com>> wrote:
@Imelda, you are right on the software. Mine auto updated to version 12.0.026 and it works better. To check version : *#0000#
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com <mailto:mueni0@gmail.com>> wrote:
@james am using the phone , the trick with the battery life is download a new version of the software using pc suite it stays for sooooo long
its a great phone especially the dstv part :)
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@Chuks, you are quite ahead. I've not tried shh so far on the N97. :-)
@steve obbayi the same content am showing to my desktop users is the same content am showing to my mobile users thks On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@I.Ati you could go both ways... it all depends on the content you want to serve to mobile users as opposed to what you want to serve to Desktop users. so if you have totally different content or the website has been developed too rigidly etc you may need a different version of the mobile site altogether. however if the content is from the same source and your site has been designed well, using a specific css for the mobile version and another for the desktop version would be the way to go... you could even have another css for a print version.
Anyway whichever way you choose to go you will need to be able to detect the user-agent to be able to serve up the right content. Microsoft came up with browscap.dll and an updateable browscap.ini file that maintains the browser information. since they didn't do a good job in keeping it up to date, it was left athe mercy of any Tom, Dick and Harry to keep the ini file up-to-date.
Gary Kieth took up the initiative and i think he has been doing a good job at it and he took the trouble of providing a way to use the browscap.ini file without relying on your webhost to keep an updated copy. you can download the files from here http://browsers.garykeith.com/downloads.aspand incorporate the pluggin into your sites.
I. Ati wrote:
@aki just wondering when creating a mobile website is the trick in the css or u create two sites one for pc users and the other redirect every time some one browses via mobile ? ?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com <mailto: aki275@googlemail.com>> wrote:
@Imelda, you are right on the software. Mine auto updated to version 12.0.026 and it works better. To check version : *#0000#
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com <mailto:mueni0@gmail.com>> wrote:
@james am using the phone , the trick with the battery life is download a new version of the software using pc suite it stays for sooooo long
its a great phone especially the dstv part :)
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@aki, actually thats the reason i bought it, otherwise immediately the Google phones start getting in Kenya i will drop the N97. On 9/29/09, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@steve obbayi the same content am showing to my desktop users is the same content am showing to my mobile users thks
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@I.Ati you could go both ways... it all depends on the content you want to serve to mobile users as opposed to what you want to serve to Desktop users. so if you have totally different content or the website has been developed too rigidly etc you may need a different version of the mobile site altogether. however if the content is from the same source and your site has been designed well, using a specific css for the mobile version and another for the desktop version would be the way to go... you could even have another css for a print version.
Anyway whichever way you choose to go you will need to be able to detect the user-agent to be able to serve up the right content. Microsoft came up with browscap.dll and an updateable browscap.ini file that maintains the browser information. since they didn't do a good job in keeping it up to date, it was left athe mercy of any Tom, Dick and Harry to keep the ini file up-to-date.
Gary Kieth took up the initiative and i think he has been doing a good job at it and he took the trouble of providing a way to use the browscap.ini file without relying on your webhost to keep an updated copy. you can download the files from here http://browsers.garykeith.com/downloads.aspand incorporate the pluggin into your sites.
I. Ati wrote:
@aki just wondering when creating a mobile website is the trick in the css or u create two sites one for pc users and the other redirect every time some one browses via mobile ? ?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com <mailto: aki275@googlemail.com>> wrote:
@Imelda, you are right on the software. Mine auto updated to version 12.0.026 and it works better. To check version : *#0000#
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com <mailto:mueni0@gmail.com>> wrote:
@james am using the phone , the trick with the battery life is download a new version of the software using pc suite it stays for sooooo long
its a great phone especially the dstv part :)
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Slightly out of Nokia, anyone using Samsung Omnia or Star? If so, sambaza pros and cons on both before I make a purchase on either! Asante Sana. On 29/09/2009, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki, actually thats the reason i bought it, otherwise immediately the Google phones start getting in Kenya i will drop the N97.
On 9/29/09, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@steve obbayi the same content am showing to my desktop users is the same content am showing to my mobile users thks
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@I.Ati you could go both ways... it all depends on the content you want to serve to mobile users as opposed to what you want to serve to Desktop users. so if you have totally different content or the website has been developed too rigidly etc you may need a different version of the mobile site altogether. however if the content is from the same source and your site has been designed well, using a specific css for the mobile version and another for the desktop version would be the way to go... you could even have another css for a print version.
Anyway whichever way you choose to go you will need to be able to detect the user-agent to be able to serve up the right content. Microsoft came up with browscap.dll and an updateable browscap.ini file that maintains the browser information. since they didn't do a good job in keeping it up to date, it was left athe mercy of any Tom, Dick and Harry to keep the ini file up-to-date.
Gary Kieth took up the initiative and i think he has been doing a good job at it and he took the trouble of providing a way to use the browscap.ini file without relying on your webhost to keep an updated copy. you can download the files from here http://browsers.garykeith.com/downloads.aspand incorporate the pluggin into your sites.
I. Ati wrote:
@aki just wondering when creating a mobile website is the trick in the css or u create two sites one for pc users and the other redirect every time some one browses via mobile ? ?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com <mailto: aki275@googlemail.com>> wrote:
@Imelda, you are right on the software. Mine auto updated to version 12.0.026 and it works better. To check version : *#0000#
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com <mailto:mueni0@gmail.com>> wrote:
@james am using the phone , the trick with the battery life is download a new version of the software using pc suite it stays for sooooo long
its a great phone especially the dstv part :)
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@I. Ati then in that case the best would be to skin all the content with css then use the browscap functions to determine which user is using a mobile device and which user is'nt. If you need help on how to plug the code into your page let me know I. Ati wrote:
@steve obbayi the same content am showing to my desktop users is the same content am showing to my mobile users thks
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com <mailto:steve@sobbayi.com>> wrote:
@I.Ati you could go both ways... it all depends on the content you want to serve to mobile users as opposed to what you want to serve to Desktop users. so if you have totally different content or the website has been developed too rigidly etc you may need a different version of the mobile site altogether. however if the content is from the same source and your site has been designed well, using a specific css for the mobile version and another for the desktop version would be the way to go... you could even have another css for a print version.
Anyway whichever way you choose to go you will need to be able to detect the user-agent to be able to serve up the right content. Microsoft came up with browscap.dll and an updateable browscap.ini file that maintains the browser information. since they didn't do a good job in keeping it up to date, it was left athe mercy of any Tom, Dick and Harry to keep the ini file up-to-date.
Gary Kieth took up the initiative and i think he has been doing a good job at it and he took the trouble of providing a way to use the browscap.ini file without relying on your webhost to keep an updated copy. you can download the files from here http://browsers.garykeith.com/downloads.asp and incorporate the pluggin into your sites.
I. Ati wrote:
@aki just wondering when creating a mobile website is the trick in the css or u create two sites one for pc users and the other redirect every time some one browses via mobile ? ?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com <mailto:aki275@googlemail.com> <mailto:aki275@googlemail.com <mailto:aki275@googlemail.com>>> wrote:
@Imelda, you are right on the software. Mine auto updated to version 12.0.026 and it works better. To check version : *#0000#
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com <mailto:mueni0@gmail.com> <mailto:mueni0@gmail.com <mailto:mueni0@gmail.com>>> wrote:
@james am using the phone , the trick with the battery life is download a new version of the software using pc suite it stays for sooooo long
its a great phone especially the dstv part :)
2009/9/29 Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com>
@I. Ati then in that case the best would be to skin all the content with css then use the browscap functions to determine which user is using a mobile device and which user is'nt. If you need help on how to plug the code into your page let me know
To add to this, if you are using any of the popular CMS's out there, be sure to check out their modules, most of them have modules that allow you to present content to mobile devices. -- Δαβίδ Mike Ditka <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mike_ditka.html> - "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."
@david am not using any cms, its a .php site 2009/9/29 David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com>
2009/9/29 Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com>
@I. Ati then in that case the best would be to skin all the content with css then use the browscap functions to determine which user is using a mobile device and which user is'nt. If you need help on how to plug the code into your page let me know
To add to this, if you are using any of the popular CMS's out there, be sure to check out their modules, most of them have modules that allow you to present content to mobile devices.
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A very basic guideline would be to use valid XHTML markup, and a 'fluid layout' i.e. a layout that will expand to fit in whatever screen width it encounters. Generally, avoid tables and fixed measurements. If you have huge images on the site however, you;ll have to strip them down to mobile friendly sizes.. it might even mean redirecting users to an alternate mobile site altogether. you can then test how mobile ready your site is on http://ready.mobi . Best of luck! 2009/9/29 I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com>
@david am not using any cms, its a .php site
2009/9/29 David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com>
2009/9/29 Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com>
@I. Ati then in that case the best would be to skin all the content with css then use the browscap functions to determine which user is using a mobile device and which user is'nt. If you need help on how to plug the code into your page let me know
To add to this, if you are using any of the popular CMS's out there, be sure to check out their modules, most of them have modules that allow you to present content to mobile devices.
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@all, was their an offer for N97's @Chuks it does not hurt to read the user manual, its the big book that comes in the box under the phone and its accessories. If paper hurts Nokia Nseries's come with the manual on a CD as well. Also remind to give you the softwares. I have downloaded PC-suit + updater about 40Mb total and the update is about 60Mb (for my phone). @I.Ati their are two popular methods (1) build two sites normal for web and another for mobile. use this if your site is heavily dependant on java and flash. also where mouse gestures and banner adds are popular build another for mobile devices. (2) build one site that is mobile compliant use XHTML-mobile or Strict. With this site ensure that all Java or flash functions are optional. All multimedia is sufficiently small or elastic (fluid layout). Avoid long Menues at the top of the page as phones navigate by tab sequence. @the Nokia guru, I updated my N73 firmware and got a mobile TV app, but when i run it it says that it cannot find device (this comes after searching for bluetooth devices), where and how much is this device its looking for? Ashford K.
Hi @Ashford, am not aware of an offer on N97s. And I think there are others who are Nokia gurus on the list, but it seems your question about the mobile tv app looking for a bluetooth device may have to do with DVB-H hardware you need, a unit called SU-33W, a bluetooth tv receiver. Its here on Nokia : http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/all-accessories/home-and-o... . HTHs. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Ashford Kuria <kuriashford@gmail.com>wrote:
@all, was their an offer for N97's
Ashford; Walk into any safcom retail centre am sure they will assist. 2009/9/29 aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
Hi @Ashford, am not aware of an offer on N97s. And I think there are others who are Nokia gurus on the list, but it seems your question about the mobile tv app looking for a bluetooth device may have to do with DVB-H hardware you need, a unit called SU-33W, a bluetooth tv receiver. Its here on Nokia : http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/all-accessories/home-and-o... . HTHs.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Ashford Kuria <kuriashford@gmail.com>wrote:
@all, was their an offer for N97's
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I. Ati -
James Muendo -
Ndungi Kyalo -
Solomon Mburu -
Steve Obbayi