Airtel 3G - Tunaomba Serikali Itusaidie
Tafadhali, tunaomba serikali itusaidie, hii Airtel imekataa kuleta 3G - only flashes of it. Please, nani anasikia? Did pirates hijack the ship carrying the equipment ama "IT is looking into my issue"?. KP -------------------- Don't wait for success; hunt it down like there's no tomorrow.
@ Peter, from the communication I've had with some Executives @ Parkside Towers, 3G will be available in July 2011. No specific dates have been given, though. But it's coming unless something happens. On 31/05/2011, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Tafadhali, tunaomba serikali itusaidie, hii Airtel imekataa kuleta 3G - only flashes of it. Please, nani anasikia? Did pirates hijack the ship carrying the equipment ama "IT is looking into my issue"?.
KP
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There was delayed shipment for some equip; i guess things are rolling towards the finishing line now..
well, its been the same story for over an year, its actually wiser not to expect it at all. on a related matter , safaricom hinted testing 4g, how is that going. -- "Aim for the top. It is less crowded there." Dickson. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:48 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
There was delayed shipment for some equip; i guess things are rolling towards the finishing line now..
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Skunkers, Why do we all think of 3G or 4G and think of better or faster data speeds? I think Telcos should look at the applications that can offered and stop making Kenyans think its all about internet speeds only. Why hasn't Safaricom capitalized on what they can do on 3G before moving to 4G? They are just creating hype over a technology they will not develop beyond data. Rita Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya -----Original Message----- From: Dickson Kimathi <dhikims@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:56:25 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Airtel 3G - Tunaomba Serikali Itusaidie _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
@ Rita, that's one question asked sometime back(if you check the archives). Why capitalize on a much higher data speed facility yet the existing facility still has some teething issues? While I hold much respect to Safaricom, I still find it amazing that they are getting to 4G, yet 3G is not fully utilized the whole country. What is the rationale for upgrading to 4G? For data only? I think telcos should look at that critically. BTW, what are the pros of CDMA? On 31/05/2011, rgitobu@gmail.com <rgitobu@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunkers,
Why do we all think of 3G or 4G and think of better or faster data speeds? I think Telcos should look at the applications that can offered and stop making Kenyans think its all about internet speeds only. Why hasn't Safaricom capitalized on what they can do on 3G before moving to 4G? They are just creating hype over a technology they will not develop beyond data.
Rita Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya
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Well, the quarrel i have with the whole '3G' thing is if they put a faster Mobile/Modem Access network,, and (1) slow inter-site connectivity - if they do not upgrade their intersite connectivities from E1s to fiber/STMs then its all for nothing (2) slow internet connection at the other end - if they do not buy more bandwidth, then whats the use ? w/r SNN
FYI, airtel is currently rolling out 3G in Nairobi and Mombasa. So its coming soon for sure. As for upgrading from E1's to fiber, Safcom currently has an IP/MPLS network interconnected with DWDM links. Don't joke...that is one serious backbone..... On 5/31/11, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, the quarrel i have with the whole '3G' thing is if they put a faster Mobile/Modem Access network,, and
(1) slow inter-site connectivity - if they do not upgrade their intersite connectivities from E1s to fiber/STMs then its all for nothing
(2) slow internet connection at the other end - if they do not buy more bandwidth, then whats the use ?
w/r SNN
@Rita, I remotely suspect that the 4G network is really some test bed between ICT brokers within the govt and some funds to be released from World Bank project. And Safaricom seems to be the most suitable arrangement as it may be partly funding the technology via a 4g network manufacturer. Today after having discovered the level of how some govt sectors in technology are trying to sell ice to eskimos under the disguise of "local innovation", I further suspect that this idea is being exploited to its full capacity on torn empty pockets filled with hypocrisy. Its makes no sense to have 4g running while 3g has not yet been fully exploited because uptake on per Mbyte costs will surely not be cheaper. We don't even have apps that need 4g. Seems this 4G scenario could be nothing more than a Nigerian 419. Me thots. :-) On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:06 PM, <rgitobu@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunkers,
Why do we all think of 3G or 4G and think of better or faster data speeds? I think Telcos should look at the applications that can offered and stop making Kenyans think its all about internet speeds only. Why hasn't Safaricom capitalized on what they can do on 3G before moving to 4G? They are just creating hype over a technology they will not develop beyond data.
Rita
Before 3G was tested and launched, the EDGE network had not been fully exploited and there were no complaints from the users who could download data at twice the speed. Let them test and launch 4G . the better for the consumers. Are we saying that they should wait for Airtel, Orange etc to catch up in the market that they solely created? On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:17 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Rita, I remotely suspect that the 4G network is really some test bed between ICT brokers within the govt and some funds to be released from World Bank project. And Safaricom seems to be the most suitable arrangement as it may be partly funding the technology via a 4g network manufacturer. Today after having discovered the level of how some govt sectors in technology are trying to sell ice to eskimos under the disguise of "local innovation", I further suspect that this idea is being exploited to its full capacity on torn empty pockets filled with hypocrisy. Its makes no sense to have 4g running while 3g has not yet been fully exploited because uptake on per Mbyte costs will surely not be cheaper. We don't even have apps that need 4g.
Seems this 4G scenario could be nothing more than a Nigerian 419.
Me thots. :-)
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:06 PM, <rgitobu@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunkers,
Why do we all think of 3G or 4G and think of better or faster data speeds? I think Telcos should look at the applications that can offered and stop making Kenyans think its all about internet speeds only. Why hasn't Safaricom capitalized on what they can do on 3G before moving to 4G? They are just creating hype over a technology they will not develop beyond data.
Rita
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@Mark that is not what we are saying. My issue is they are offering Kenyans a raw deal by selling data only. They is so much 3G can do that they have not sold to Kenyans. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya -----Original Message----- From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 00:06:55 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Airtel 3G - Tunaomba Serikali Itusaidie _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
@aki & @rita While i still hope yours are not veiled attacks at an incumbent about to swallow yet more market share, allow me to share this easily available article about the evolution of Gees.... (2G, 2.5G... on to 4G) and why 4G is not necessarily just about speed... But that said, in a price sensitive market, competition will most likely be first about how much bandwidth you are offering for how much, then how good your customer care is. That said, imagine a marketplace where you have the flexibility to offer hundreds of Mbps to cellular clients and up to 1Gbps to fixed ones where your competition can offer at the most something like 7.2Mbps....... I suspect safaricom is not just testing but is busy deploying, because when push comes to shove, they will unleash internet fury like no provider has seen, and with the failure of MNP to tame them, some providers better be prepared... That said, if i were the rest, i would consolidate my gains, partner with each other and form a company to manage their masts and backhaul (jointly owned) , leverage on the nationwide fiber that the french company ILLEGALLY control and throw out a product that can withstand an onslaught of 4G at a price that wont keep anyone in the current network looking the safaricom way.... On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:21 AM, <rgitobu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mark that is not what we are saying. My issue is they are offering Kenyans a raw deal by selling data only. They is so much 3G can do that they have not sold to Kenyans. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya
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the article : http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/2010/03/faster-mobile-broadband-driven-b... On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:50 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki & @rita
While i still hope yours are not veiled attacks at an incumbent about to swallow yet more market share, allow me to share this easily available article about the evolution of Gees.... (2G, 2.5G... on to 4G) and why 4G is not necessarily just about speed...
But that said, in a price sensitive market, competition will most likely be first about how much bandwidth you are offering for how much, then how good your customer care is. That said, imagine a marketplace where you have the flexibility to offer hundreds of Mbps to cellular clients and up to 1Gbps to fixed ones where your competition can offer at the most something like 7.2Mbps.......
I suspect safaricom is not just testing but is busy deploying, because when push comes to shove, they will unleash internet fury like no provider has seen, and with the failure of MNP to tame them, some providers better be prepared...
That said, if i were the rest, i would consolidate my gains, partner with each other and form a company to manage their masts and backhaul (jointly owned) , leverage on the nationwide fiber that the french company ILLEGALLY control and throw out a product that can withstand an onslaught of 4G at a price that wont keep anyone in the current network looking the safaricom way....
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:21 AM, <rgitobu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mark that is not what we are saying. My issue is they are offering Kenyans a raw deal by selling data only. They is so much 3G can do that they have not sold to Kenyans. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya
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The airtel 3G is comming sooner than you think On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:51 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
the article :
http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/2010/03/faster-mobile-broadband-driven-b...
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:50 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
@aki & @rita
While i still hope yours are not veiled attacks at an incumbent about to swallow yet more market share, allow me to share this easily available article about the evolution of Gees.... (2G, 2.5G... on to 4G) and why 4G is not necessarily just about speed...
But that said, in a price sensitive market, competition will most likely be first about how much bandwidth you are offering for how much, then how good your customer care is. That said, imagine a marketplace where you have the flexibility to offer hundreds of Mbps to cellular clients and up to 1Gbps to fixed ones where your competition can offer at the most something like 7.2Mbps.......
I suspect safaricom is not just testing but is busy deploying, because when push comes to shove, they will unleash internet fury like no provider has seen, and with the failure of MNP to tame them, some providers better be prepared...
That said, if i were the rest, i would consolidate my gains, partner with each other and form a company to manage their masts and backhaul (jointly owned) , leverage on the nationwide fiber that the french company ILLEGALLY control and throw out a product that can withstand an onslaught of 4G at a price that wont keep anyone in the current network looking the safaricom way....
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:21 AM, <rgitobu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mark that is not what we are saying. My issue is they are offering Kenyans a raw deal by selling data only. They is so much 3G can do that they have not sold to Kenyans. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya
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Meaning? If you have info, please share. Regard's Brian Ngure On 1 Jun 2011 13:22, "Stephen Munguti" <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> wrote:
The airtel 3G is comming sooner than you think
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:51 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
the article :
http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/2010/03/faster-mobile-broadband-driven-b...
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:50 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com
wrote:
@aki & @rita
While i still hope yours are not veiled attacks at an incumbent about to swallow yet more market share, allow me to share this easily available article about the evolution of Gees.... (2G, 2.5G... on to 4G) and why
4G is
not necessarily just about speed...
But that said, in a price sensitive market, competition will most likely be first about how much bandwidth you are offering for how much, then how good your customer care is. That said, imagine a marketplace where you have the flexibility to offer hundreds of Mbps to cellular clients and up to 1Gbps to fixed ones where your competition can offer at the most something like 7.2Mbps.......
I suspect safaricom is not just testing but is busy deploying, because when push comes to shove, they will unleash internet fury like no provider has seen, and with the failure of MNP to tame them, some providers better be prepared...
That said, if i were the rest, i would consolidate my gains, partner with each other and form a company to manage their masts and backhaul (jointly owned) , leverage on the nationwide fiber that the french company ILLEGALLY control and throw out a product that can withstand an onslaught of 4G at a price that wont keep anyone in the current network looking the safaricom way....
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:21 AM, <rgitobu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mark that is not what we are saying. My issue is they are offering Kenyans a raw deal by selling data only. They is so much 3G can do that they have not sold to Kenyans. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya
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@munguti it has been for a year now. instead of vague promises of coming soon or coming next quarter , they should just say will come when it comes. Am not holding my breath. Long before Safaricom launched theirs the signal was being picked by most 3g enabled handsets though it was not usable. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
Meaning?
If you have info, please share.
Regard's
Brian Ngure
On 1 Jun 2011 13:22, "Stephen Munguti" <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> wrote:
The airtel 3G is comming sooner than you think
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:51 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
the article :
http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/2010/03/faster-mobile-broadband-driven-b...
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:50 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com
wrote:
@aki & @rita
While i still hope yours are not veiled attacks at an incumbent about
to
swallow yet more market share, allow me to share this easily available article about the evolution of Gees.... (2G, 2.5G... on to 4G) and why 4G is not necessarily just about speed...
But that said, in a price sensitive market, competition will most likely be first about how much bandwidth you are offering for how much, then how good your customer care is. That said, imagine a marketplace where you have the flexibility to offer hundreds of Mbps to cellular clients and up to 1Gbps to fixed ones where your competition can offer at the most something like 7.2Mbps.......
I suspect safaricom is not just testing but is busy deploying, because when push comes to shove, they will unleash internet fury like no provider has seen, and with the failure of MNP to tame them, some providers better be prepared...
That said, if i were the rest, i would consolidate my gains, partner with each other and form a company to manage their masts and backhaul (jointly owned) , leverage on the nationwide fiber that the french company ILLEGALLY control and throw out a product that can withstand an onslaught of 4G at a price that wont keep anyone in the current network looking the safaricom way....
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:21 AM, <rgitobu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mark that is not what we are saying. My issue is they are offering Kenyans a raw deal by selling data only. They is so much 3G can do that they have not sold to Kenyans. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya
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While we are on 3G I can scan orange 3G from in different location in and around Nairobi but I cannot connect to it with my orange line. I don't know how that is possible.
@ Job To use the 3G simcard on orange - only specific simcards are enabled/allowed now - the sites do exist; but still on test basis. Roll out will come when they are ready.
@ ndungu So how does Safaricom do it since even old simcards can access their 3G network? Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki, Phone: (+254) - 772333075 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
@ Joe one word = HLR
Huawei might just replicate the good that they have done elsewhere to ensure we achieve this with Airtel... http://www.totaltele.com/view.aspx?ID=465245 Rgds, Dan On 6/1/2011 3:23 PM, Job Muriuki wrote:
@ ndungu
So how does Safaricom do it since even old simcards can access their 3G network?
Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki,
Phone: (+254) - 772333075 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob
Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
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This Huawei issue is not good news for some of us .. It all boils down to the Chinese Probrem. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Dan Kwach <dan.kwach@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Huawei might just replicate the good that they have done elsewhere to ensure we achieve this with Airtel...
http://www.totaltele.com/view.aspx?ID=465245
Rgds, Dan
the chinese are a problem? On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
This Huawei issue is not good news for some of us .. It all boils down to the Chinese Probrem.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Dan Kwach <dan.kwach@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Huawei might just replicate the good that they have done elsewhere to ensure we achieve this with Airtel...
http://www.totaltele.com/view.aspx?ID=465245
Rgds, Dan
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Some people call it the second colonisation;; But most of us are happy that they are not giving us hundreds of hurdles like the americans do to get some loans; It depends on the way you view it; here is an example: http://www.trademarksa.org/news/chinese-one-stop-shop-deals-do-not-augur-wel... http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/Chinese+one+stop+shop+deals+do+not+augur+well/...
They hide malware in those systems to gain intelligence, they really don't need to install spies since they look different from other people. I think even those guys doing our roads have spies amongst them - to do reconnaisance and familiarize with the local population. In serious economies, the Huawei type are always given a though vetting (google around). Anyway, they built really cheap (and subsidized!) electronics, explains why everyone goes to China these days.. Again, they seem clever than Russians that can only built an embassy next to DOD ("maybe" they want to snoop on communications), but again, who doesn't want their embassy next to DoD and State House? On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Some people call it the second colonisation;; But most of us are happy that they are not giving us hundreds of hurdles like the americans do to get some loans;
It depends on the way you view it; here is an example:
@peter of course they have spies, the same as any other country with even a fleeting interest here. I assume Kenya has spies allover the globe too otherwise the NSIS is a major hoax. Who is to say the American/Finnish companies do not put spyware in their software? On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
They hide malware in those systems to gain intelligence, they really don't need to install spies since they look different from other people. I think even those guys doing our roads have spies amongst them - to do reconnaisance and familiarize with the local population. In serious economies, the Huawei type are always given a though vetting (google around). Anyway, they built really cheap (and subsidized!) electronics, explains why everyone goes to China these days..
Again, they seem clever than Russians that can only built an embassy next to DOD ("maybe" they want to snoop on communications), but again, who doesn't want their embassy next to DoD and State House?
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Some people call it the second colonisation;; But most of us are happy that they are not giving us hundreds of hurdles like the americans do to get some loans;
It depends on the way you view it; here is an example:
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He do you have proof on the spyware issue with HUAWEI ? On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
@peter of course they have spies, the same as any other country with even a fleeting interest here. I assume Kenya has spies allover the globe too otherwise the NSIS is a major hoax. Who is to say the American/Finnish companies do not put spyware in their software?
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
They hide malware in those systems to gain intelligence, they really don't need to install spies since they look different from other people. I think even those guys doing our roads have spies amongst them - to do reconnaisance and familiarize with the local population. In serious economies, the Huawei type are always given a though vetting (google around). Anyway, they built really cheap (and subsidized!) electronics, explains why everyone goes to China these days..
Again, they seem clever than Russians that can only built an embassy next to DOD ("maybe" they want to snoop on communications), but again, who doesn't want their embassy next to DoD and State House?
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Some people call it the second colonisation;; But most of us are happy that they are not giving us hundreds of hurdles like the americans do to get some loans;
It depends on the way you view it; here is an example:
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sometimes you got to love how topics evolve on this list. the ssue of 3G - 4g has evolved to spying to take you back t o 3g- 4g, the only reason i would wait for airtel 3G is because i would expect them to stabilise the prices in the market.You can be sure, they will be for every reason cheaper. Meaning Safaricom will have to match the pricing or we kick it off our backs. I would expect safaricom to luanch 4g. 4g has so much potential for example 158 mbps per user, meaning that you will get very fast speeds should they decide to give full capability. On the other note, Safaricom may not need to sell many products on their internet products, just like anyother ISP, let them give you good capacity, choose what content to push through it. If they bring more products like cable TV even better and to our advantage as users. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Memusi <tonatech@gmail.com> wrote:
He do you have proof on the spyware issue with HUAWEI ?
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
@peter of course they have spies, the same as any other country with even a fleeting interest here. I assume Kenya has spies allover the globe too otherwise the NSIS is a major hoax. Who is to say the American/Finnish companies do not put spyware in their software?
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
They hide malware in those systems to gain intelligence, they really don't need to install spies since they look different from other people. I think even those guys doing our roads have spies amongst them - to do reconnaisance and familiarize with the local population. In serious economies, the Huawei type are always given a though vetting (google around). Anyway, they built really cheap (and subsidized!) electronics, explains why everyone goes to China these days..
Again, they seem clever than Russians that can only built an embassy next to DOD ("maybe" they want to snoop on communications), but again, who doesn't want their embassy next to DoD and State House?
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Some people call it the second colonisation;; But most of us are happy that they are not giving us hundreds of hurdles like the americans do to get some loans;
It depends on the way you view it; here is an example:
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If you take the IDEOS apart - you might find them spywares swimming around the circuits.
Speculation speculation . so long as the tech is foreign then anything is possible. How much blackberry data do you think the American/Canadian Govenment has access to? Am betting on all of it. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:22 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
If you take the IDEOS apart - you might find them spywares swimming around the circuits.
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Orange is just about to launch theirs, and might have the biggest impact. Here is why:- - wholesalers advantage: they on lots of capacity and cable, hence rarely need to pay anyone else for data. - Even more, they own part of EASSY and SAT-3/WASC/*SAFE* . The later connects Europe, Africa and Asia and will be extended to Mombasa via LION 2. Looks like France Telecom are in Africa for the Data.
Ndungu lol! On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Orange is just about to launch theirs, and might have the biggest impact. Here is why:-
- wholesalers advantage: they on lots of capacity and cable, hence rarely need to pay anyone else for data. - Even more, they own part of EASSY and SAT-3/WASC/*SAFE* . The later connects Europe, Africa and Asia and will be extended to Mombasa via LION 2. Looks like France Telecom are in Africa for the Data.
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The challenge with 3G so far has been that busy networks like Safaricom can not offer "unlimited" or "eat-as-much-as-you-can" offers due to the danger of voice degradation - congestion and call dropping as data users increase. Am not sure if LTE will allow for these to be offered, but it looks like it will allow for penetration of serious internet outside Runda and Muthaiga where loss making ISPs have been focusing on. Though ISPs will be allowed to offer LTE, the biggest beneficiaries will be backhaul carriers like JTL, KDN, GoK/NOFBI, Orange.
That explains it Ndungu, I also have Orange 3G and was not able to connect to it.
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