talk about 1 million laptops?
Hi guys, Could I try and get PS Ndemo to talk to us on "how-to" get one of those 1 million laptops stimulus? http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1... just an interest gauge here.... regards, Alex
Yea.. this is good; bet Alex has to come up with something nice... How much possible is it for such a good initiative to be wasted? But having a relevant community like Skunkworks taking it up might be all the start that's needed. On 7/28/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
Could I try and get PS Ndemo to talk to us on "how-to" get one of those 1 million laptops stimulus? http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1...
just an interest gauge here....
regards,
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I am in complete agreement with Alex. This opportunity is to great to stay behind closed doors. Crystal On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Samuel Waithaka <samwaithaka@gmail.com>wrote:
Yea.. this is good; bet Alex has to come up with something nice... How much possible is it for such a good initiative to be wasted? But having a relevant community like Skunkworks taking it up might be all the start that's needed.
On 7/28/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
Could I try and get PS Ndemo to talk to us on "how-to" get one of those 1 million laptops stimulus?
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1...
just an interest gauge here....
regards,
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At this age where handheld devices are becoming the preferred computing device for majority of the population I'd prefer a 1 million *smartphone*campaing. My views are: - That in the the cities, most guys will prefer laptop to the mobile phone. True. but there is only so much you can do with a laptop if you are not a developer or an IT person. Majority of the population is the non-IT people. - That in the rural areas guys would prefer a smart mobile to a laptop beacause. - It can serve as a substitute for several lacking infrastructures and services. - It's convenience and ease of use. Easy to learn how to access and use new functionality - And the most important for everybody is that mobile services are not dependent on any kind of physical addressing scheme (i.e physical adress). Think about having your secretary, bank, news agent, entertainment portal, communication equipment e.t.c right in your pocket. Goeff 2009/7/29 Crystal Watley Kigoni <crystal@voicesofafrica.org>
I am in complete agreement with Alex. This opportunity is to great to stay behind closed doors. Crystal
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Samuel Waithaka <samwaithaka@gmail.com>wrote:
Yea.. this is good; bet Alex has to come up with something nice... How much possible is it for such a good initiative to be wasted? But having a relevant community like Skunkworks taking it up might be all the start that's needed.
On 7/28/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
Could I try and get PS Ndemo to talk to us on "how-to" get one of those 1 million laptops stimulus?
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1...
just an interest gauge here....
regards,
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Think about the battery charge of your smart phone! On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Geoffrey Mimano <gmimano@datadyne.org>wrote:
At this age where handheld devices are becoming the preferred computing device for majority of the population I'd prefer a 1 million *smartphone*campaing. My views are:
- That in the the cities, most guys will prefer laptop to the mobile phone. True. but there is only so much you can do with a laptop if you are not a developer or an IT person. Majority of the population is the non-IT people. - That in the rural areas guys would prefer a smart mobile to a laptop beacause. - It can serve as a substitute for several lacking infrastructures and services. - It's convenience and ease of use. Easy to learn how to access and use new functionality - And the most important for everybody is that mobile services are not dependent on any kind of physical addressing scheme (i.e physical adress).
Think about having your secretary, bank, news agent, entertainment portal, communication equipment e.t.c right in your pocket.
Goeff
2009/7/29 Crystal Watley Kigoni <crystal@voicesofafrica.org>
I am in complete agreement with Alex. This opportunity is to great to stay behind closed doors. Crystal
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Samuel Waithaka <samwaithaka@gmail.com>wrote:
Yea.. this is good; bet Alex has to come up with something nice... How much possible is it for such a good initiative to be wasted? But having a relevant community like Skunkworks taking it up might be all the start that's needed.
On 7/28/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
Could I try and get PS Ndemo to talk to us on "how-to" get one of those 1 million laptops stimulus?
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1...
just an interest gauge here....
regards,
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That is some good work... right there... Our good friend who has been working on .go.ke websites ... is there a website where you can sigh up for this plan? Or more information on the process ... unfortunately my bank does not respond to my emails .... and yes I am a MEMBER. Any helpful info. is highly appreciated. -- Best Regards Martin Maina C: +254726937792 , +254770147485 T: +254 0202465663 E: martinmur87@gmail.com W: http://martingeek.110mb.com
Mimano, I beg to disagree. If you have a smart phone, you are primarily a client, using services and products created by others. However, if you have a laptop, you can create products and services which can then be sold to other 'clients'. I would imagine that the 1 million laptops are not meant to be acquired then stashed in the house for the occasional movie or gaming session, but they are meant to be a stimulus to grow the ICT industry. If my assumption is correct, then the people who would benefit most from these laptops are those in the ICT or related industries. Further building upon that assumption, then skunks would not be the most ideal people to have those laptops because, and i stand to be corrected, a majority of skunks have at least one PC or laptop at their disposal. Therefore, to conclude my assumption, the people who would benefit most from laptops are ICT students in the colleges, universities and high schools. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Putty Session <putty.session@gmail.com>wrote:
Think about the battery charge of your smart phone!
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Geoffrey Mimano <gmimano@datadyne.org>wrote:
At this age where handheld devices are becoming the preferred computing device for majority of the population I'd prefer a 1 million *smartphone*campaing. My views are:
- That in the the cities, most guys will prefer laptop to the mobile phone. True. but there is only so much you can do with a laptop if you are not a developer or an IT person. Majority of the population is the non-IT people. - That in the rural areas guys would prefer a smart mobile to a laptop beacause. - It can serve as a substitute for several lacking infrastructures and services. - It's convenience and ease of use. Easy to learn how to access and use new functionality - And the most important for everybody is that mobile services are not dependent on any kind of physical addressing scheme (i.e physical adress).
Think about having your secretary, bank, news agent, entertainment portal, communication equipment e.t.c right in your pocket.
Goeff
2009/7/29 Crystal Watley Kigoni <crystal@voicesofafrica.org>
I am in complete agreement with Alex. This opportunity is to great to stay behind closed doors. Crystal
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Samuel Waithaka <samwaithaka@gmail.com>wrote:
Yea.. this is good; bet Alex has to come up with something nice... How much possible is it for such a good initiative to be wasted? But having a relevant community like Skunkworks taking it up might be all the start that's needed.
On 7/28/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
Could I try and get PS Ndemo to talk to us on "how-to" get one of those 1 million laptops stimulus?
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1...
just an interest gauge here....
regards,
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@Mimamo, If the laptops are meant for the those in IT related field, there's no much impact; already they're good to go. They have access to the internet for instance and they don't need a stimulus as such (except they'll need to benefit just like any other Kenyan); But if we keep saying that ICT is for everyone, which is how it will impact the economy as intended, then there is need to take PC to the home; I think this stimulus is meant to do this. Otherwise this will not naturally happen. Concerning hand held, I think a general user - not techie - might be overwhelmed by the functionality of the device and the objective will not be met. Keeping it simple to me is more effective. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Peter Karunyu<pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Mimano, I beg to disagree. If you have a smart phone, you are primarily a client, using services and products created by others. However, if you have a laptop, you can create products and services which can then be sold to other 'clients'.
I would imagine that the 1 million laptops are not meant to be acquired then stashed in the house for the occasional movie or gaming session, but they are meant to be a stimulus to grow the ICT industry. If my assumption is correct, then the people who would benefit most from these laptops are those in the ICT or related industries.
Further building upon that assumption, then skunks would not be the most ideal people to have those laptops because, and i stand to be corrected, a majority of skunks have at least one PC or laptop at their disposal.
Therefore, to conclude my assumption, the people who would benefit most from laptops are ICT students in the colleges, universities and high schools.
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Could I try and get PS Ndemo to talk to us on "how-to" get one of those 1 million laptops stimulus? http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1...
Why not 2-million desktops ? they are easier to upgrade, cheaper to fix, and less likely to get stolen.
Desktops, not until you are operating from 4 different locations and moving your workspace gives you hell. a desktop is best left for your desk at work and for home entertainment. As for your personal work, a laptop would be best. 2009/7/29 <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info<ashok%2Bskunkworks@parliaments.info>
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Could I try and get PS Ndemo to talk to us on "how-to" get one of those 1 million laptops stimulus?
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1...
Why not 2-million desktops ? they are easier to upgrade, cheaper to fix, and less likely to get stolen. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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My essential question is are there a million people who already have the skills to be able to utilize the laptops? And are these the people we are targeting? Will the laptops come with training software? In order for the promotion to be beneficial it must lead to increased incomes for the users, which requires skills. Does anyone know the answers to these questions? Crystal On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Desktops, not until you are operating from 4 different locations and moving your workspace gives you hell. a desktop is best left for your desk at work and for home entertainment. As for your personal work, a laptop would be best.
2009/7/29 <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info<ashok%2Bskunkworks@parliaments.info>
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Gakuru Alex
<alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Could I try and get PS Ndemo to talk to us on "how-to" get one of those 1 million laptops stimulus?
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1...
Why not 2-million desktops ? they are easier to upgrade, cheaper to fix, and less likely to get stolen. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Good idea Alex, On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Crystal Watley Kigoni < crystal@voicesofafrica.org> wrote:
My essential question is are there a million people who already have the skills to be able to utilize the laptops? And are these the people we are targeting? Will the laptops come with training software? In order for the promotion to be beneficial it must lead to increased incomes for the users, which requires skills.
Does anyone know the answers to these questions?
Crystal
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Desktops, not until you are operating from 4 different locations and moving your workspace gives you hell. a desktop is best left for your desk at work and for home entertainment. As for your personal work, a laptop would be best.
2009/7/29 <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info<ashok%2Bskunkworks@parliaments.info>
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Gakuru Alex
<alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Could I try and get PS Ndemo to talk to us on "how-to" get one of those 1 million laptops stimulus?
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1...
Why not 2-million desktops ? they are easier to upgrade, cheaper to fix, and less likely to get stolen. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Also, given that some Kenyans have demonstrated no compunction in stealing ARV money or supplying chalk to Nairobi Water, what measures are being put in place to prevent fraud in this initiative? I can already see ghost consumers buying ghost laptops en masse and government footing actual bills On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Good idea Alex,
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Crystal Watley Kigoni < crystal@voicesofafrica.org> wrote:
My essential question is are there a million people who already have the skills to be able to utilize the laptops? And are these the people we are targeting? Will the laptops come with training software? In order for the promotion to be beneficial it must lead to increased incomes for the users, which requires skills.
Does anyone know the answers to these questions?
Crystal
I guess there is a criterion for disbursing these laptops. My assumption is, this initiative is a pilot project. My greatest concern is how will the monitoring of the use of the machines be done? On 29/07/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Also, given that some Kenyans have demonstrated no compunction in stealing ARV money or supplying chalk to Nairobi Water, what measures are being put in place to prevent fraud in this initiative? I can already see ghost consumers buying ghost laptops en masse and government footing actual bills
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Good idea Alex,
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Crystal Watley Kigoni < crystal@voicesofafrica.org> wrote:
My essential question is are there a million people who already have the skills to be able to utilize the laptops? And are these the people we are targeting? Will the laptops come with training software? In order for the promotion to be beneficial it must lead to increased incomes for the users, which requires skills.
Does anyone know the answers to these questions?
Crystal
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Rad!<conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Also, given that some Kenyans have demonstrated no compunction in stealing ARV money or supplying chalk to Nairobi Water, what measures are being put in place to prevent fraud in this initiative? I can already see ghost consumers buying ghost laptops en masse and government footing actual bills
Yes! governance questions skunks ought to candidly pose to Bwana PS. True, we need laptops, desktops, mobile phones, power, water, penicillin and pentium -- the works! but we got to start somewhere with something. So, do we invite Dr. Ndemo for the talk or what? Alex
Of course, invite him for a talk, Alex! On 29/07/2009, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Rad!<conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Also, given that some Kenyans have demonstrated no compunction in stealing ARV money or supplying chalk to Nairobi Water, what measures are being put in place to prevent fraud in this initiative? I can already see ghost consumers buying ghost laptops en masse and government footing actual bills
Yes! governance questions skunks ought to candidly pose to Bwana PS.
True, we need laptops, desktops, mobile phones, power, water, penicillin and pentium -- the works! but we got to start somewhere with something. So, do we invite Dr. Ndemo for the talk or what?
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With power rationing at best, or no power at worst, desktops would quickly turn to expensive scrap metal. Regarding desktops being cheaper to fix, that may be the case today but it can be argued that a jua-kali ecosystem of laptop specialists will emerge in the same way that TVs and all manner of electronics are catered for by the informal sector. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:28 AM, <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info<ashok%2Bskunkworks@parliaments.info>
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Could I try and get PS Ndemo to talk to us on "how-to" get one of those 1 million laptops stimulus?
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1...
Why not 2-million desktops ? they are easier to upgrade, cheaper to fix, and less likely to get stolen. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
I am still yet to undestand how 1 million laptops will stimulate the economy.......there wold have been other measures that would have immediate effect like scraping excise tax and VAT on airtime....that will surely make people call more....oohh they are also building 10 fishponds per constituency or so i heard.... .....how the laptops will stimulate the economy sielewi......
For logistical purposes, how many would be interested in attending? It would be very helpful at this point in time. Alex On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM, saich<saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
I am still yet to undestand how 1 million laptops will stimulate the economy.......there wold have been other measures that would have immediate effect like scraping excise tax and VAT on airtime....that will surely make people call more....oohh they are also building 10 fishponds per constituency or so i heard.... .....how the laptops will stimulate the economy sielewi...... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
I wuld b intrested. . On 7/30/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
For logistical purposes, how many would be interested in attending? It would be very helpful at this point in time.
Alex
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM, saich<saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
I am still yet to undestand how 1 million laptops will stimulate the economy.......there wold have been other measures that would have immediate effect like scraping excise tax and VAT on airtime....that will surely make people call more....oohh they are also building 10 fishponds per constituency or so i heard.... .....how the laptops will stimulate the economy sielewi...... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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I would. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Mark Mwangi<mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I wuld b intrested. .
On 7/30/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
For logistical purposes, how many would be interested in attending? It would be very helpful at this point in time.
Alex
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM, saich<saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
I am still yet to undestand how 1 million laptops will stimulate the economy.......there wold have been other measures that would have immediate effect like scraping excise tax and VAT on airtime....that will surely make people call more....oohh they are also building 10 fishponds per constituency or so i heard.... .....how the laptops will stimulate the economy sielewi...... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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I'm in! On 7/30/09, Samuel Waithaka <samwaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
I would.
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Mark Mwangi<mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I wuld b intrested. .
On 7/30/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
For logistical purposes, how many would be interested in attending? It would be very helpful at this point in time.
Alex
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM, saich<saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
I am still yet to undestand how 1 million laptops will stimulate the economy.......there wold have been other measures that would have immediate effect like scraping excise tax and VAT on airtime....that will surely make people call more....oohh they are also building 10 fishponds per constituency or so i heard.... .....how the laptops will stimulate the economy sielewi...... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Oh, count me in! On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:46 PM, John Macharia <kihahu@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in!
On 7/30/09, Samuel Waithaka <samwaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
I would.
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Mark Mwangi<mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I wuld b intrested. .
On 7/30/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
For logistical purposes, how many would be interested in attending? It would be very helpful at this point in time.
Alex
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM, saich<saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
I am still yet to undestand how 1 million laptops will stimulate the economy.......there wold have been other measures that would have immediate effect like scraping excise tax and VAT on airtime....that will surely make people call more....oohh they are also building 10 fishponds per constituency or so i heard.... .....how the laptops will stimulate the economy sielewi...... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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I am there! Crystal On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Samuel Wachira <wachirasam@gmail.com>wrote:
Oh, count me in!
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:46 PM, John Macharia <kihahu@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in!
On 7/30/09, Samuel Waithaka <samwaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
I would.
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Mark Mwangi<mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I wuld b intrested. .
On 7/30/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
For logistical purposes, how many would be interested in attending? It would be very helpful at this point in time.
Alex
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM, saich<saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
I am still yet to undestand how 1 million laptops will stimulate the economy.......there wold have been other measures that would have immediate effect like scraping excise tax and VAT on airtime....that will surely make people call more....oohh they are also building 10 fishponds per constituency or so i heard.... .....how the laptops will stimulate the economy sielewi...... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Barrack Otieno -
Clement Ongera -
Crystal Watley Kigoni -
Dennis Kioko -
Gakuru Alex -
Geoffrey Mimano -
John Macharia -
Mark Mwangi -
Martin Muraguri -
Peter Karunyu -
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Rad! -
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Samuel Wachira -
Samuel Waithaka -
Solomon Mburu