Re: [Skunkworks] E-mail Hosts
Check siteground.com. I migrated from Google as it was becoming expensive. Regards, Leonard Waruingi On Nov 10, 2016 11:30, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Hi Peter, With our bad experience with Safaricom Business and Sasahost, we choose not to go with local hosts. With this, we are leaning to Hostgator (not recommended so far by anyone on the forum) to host our website and emails. My second option would be Zohomail but I have not seen any option for their hosting our website. So there it is.... Regards, Gerald On 10/11/16 09:44, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks wrote: @Gerald has been given the whole gamut of options, I am curious to know which one he picks and why... On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Steve Muchai via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
+1 for Google. Works perfectly for $sidehustle with a co.ke.
Regards, Steve
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:45 AM, alex watila via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
why not google apps or it's equivalent?
On 8 Nov 2016 21:23, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Gerald, I was in a similar situation sometime earlier in the year-I know that painful experience. If you have many users, my advise would be that you get an in-house mail server. A lot of people promise what they can't deliver. That I learnt the very painful way.
Regards, Patrick
On Nov 8, 2016 5:13 PM, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi, We are looking for a reliable email host service for a .co.ke domain. We currently use Sasahost but their services have proved unreliable with their servers being blacklisted too often. We also tried Safaricom business services and we all know how those are.
Any advice is mush appreciated.
Regards, Gerald
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Leonard, Allow me to ask - how cost-effective is siteground? An entry level server costs $229.00/mo, which is KES 274,800/yr. If this guy bought his own in-house server (entry-level), it would probably cost KES 120,000 or thereabouts. He then uses a systems integrator consultant to setup the mail/spam filtering/virus filtering services at, say 50K on the higher side, which comes to 170K. Server's electricit consumption cannot add up to 100K per year, so there's so much saving. If you project/extrapolate that to 5yrs you can see the savings... BTW, if this guy goes for one of those HP workstations, it will even be better. I have a couple that have been running 24/7/265 for 5+ years and going strength to strength... Anyway, every man to himself. One man's meat is another's poison.. :-) On 11 November 2016 at 17:58, Leonard Waruingi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Check siteground.com. I migrated from Google as it was becoming expensive.
Regards, Leonard Waruingi
On Nov 10, 2016 11:30, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Peter, With our bad experience with Safaricom Business and Sasahost, we choose not to go with local hosts. With this, we are leaning to Hostgator (not recommended so far by anyone on the forum) to host our website and emails. My second option would be Zohomail but I have not seen any option for their hosting our website.
So there it is....
Regards, Gerald
On 10/11/16 09:44, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks wrote:
@Gerald has been given the whole gamut of options, I am curious to know which one he picks and why...
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Steve Muchai via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
+1 for Google. Works perfectly for $sidehustle with a co.ke.
Regards, Steve
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:45 AM, alex watila via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
why not google apps or it's equivalent?
On 8 Nov 2016 21:23, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Gerald, I was in a similar situation sometime earlier in the year-I know that painful experience. If you have many users, my advise would be that you get an in-house mail server. A lot of people promise what they can't deliver. That I learnt the very painful way.
Regards, Patrick
On Nov 8, 2016 5:13 PM, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi, We are looking for a reliable email host service for a .co.ke domain. We currently use Sasahost but their services have proved unreliable with their servers being blacklisted too often. We also tried Safaricom business services and we all know how those are.
Any advice is mush appreciated.
Regards, Gerald
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Wash, 170k/yr for an enterprise mail server (Hardware, Software, Setup, Maintanence, Risks....), not logic. Breakdown please
On Nov 11, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Leonard,
Allow me to ask - how cost-effective is siteground? An entry level server costs $229.00/mo, which is KES 274,800/yr. If this guy bought his own in-house server (entry-level), it would probably cost KES 120,000 or thereabouts. He then uses a systems integrator consultant to setup the mail/spam filtering/virus filtering services at, say 50K on the higher side, which comes to 170K. Server's electricit consumption cannot add up to 100K per year, so there's so much saving. If you project/extrapolate that to 5yrs you can see the savings... BTW, if this guy goes for one of those HP workstations, it will even be better. I have a couple that have been running 24/7/265 for 5+ years and going strength to strength...
Anyway, every man to himself. One man's meat is another's poison.. :-)
On 11 November 2016 at 17:58, Leonard Waruingi via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Check siteground.com. I migrated from Google as it was becoming expensive.
Regards, Leonard Waruingi
On Nov 10, 2016 11:30, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Peter, With our bad experience with Safaricom Business and Sasahost, we choose not to go with local hosts. With this, we are leaning to Hostgator (not recommended so far by anyone on the forum) to host our website and emails. My second option would be Zohomail but I have not seen any option for their hosting our website.
So there it is....
Regards, Gerald
On 10/11/16 09:44, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks wrote: @Gerald has been given the whole gamut of options, I am curious to know which one he picks and why...
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Steve Muchai via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: +1 for Google. Works perfectly for $sidehustle with a co.ke.
Regards, Steve
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:45 AM, alex watila via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: why not google apps or it's equivalent?
On 8 Nov 2016 21:23, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Hi Gerald, I was in a similar situation sometime earlier in the year-I know that painful experience. If you have many users, my advise would be that you get an in-house mail server. A lot of people promise what they can't deliver. That I learnt the very painful way.
Regards, Patrick
On Nov 8, 2016 5:13 PM, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi, We are looking for a reliable email host service for a .co.ke domain. We currently use Sasahost but their services have proved unreliable with their servers being blacklisted too often. We also tried Safaricom business services and we all know how those are.
Any advice is mush appreciated.
Regards, Gerald
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I did not say 170K/per year, unless my English let me down. I meant a one time hardware acquisition and setup fee of 170K. A properly setup Unix-based mail server doesn't require so much maintenance from my experience. Software is free. Perhaps you can elucidate on the Risks? The organization does have computing equipment in the office, which the server becomes part of so the risks would be mitigated in the same way as for the other equipment I believe. On 11 November 2016 at 22:01, Maisiba Bravo <riggson87@gmail.com> wrote:
Wash,
170k/yr for an enterprise mail server (Hardware, Software, Setup, Maintanence, Risks....), not logic.
Breakdown please
On Nov 11, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Leonard,
Allow me to ask - how cost-effective is siteground? An entry level server costs $229.00/mo, which is KES 274,800/yr. If this guy bought his own in-house server (entry-level), it would probably cost KES 120,000 or thereabouts. He then uses a systems integrator consultant to setup the mail/spam filtering/virus filtering services at, say 50K on the higher side, which comes to 170K. Server's electricit consumption cannot add up to 100K per year, so there's so much saving. If you project/extrapolate that to 5yrs you can see the savings... BTW, if this guy goes for one of those HP workstations, it will even be better. I have a couple that have been running 24/7/265 for 5+ years and going strength to strength...
Anyway, every man to himself. One man's meat is another's poison.. :-)
On 11 November 2016 at 17:58, Leonard Waruingi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Check siteground.com. I migrated from Google as it was becoming expensive.
Regards, Leonard Waruingi
On Nov 10, 2016 11:30, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Peter, With our bad experience with Safaricom Business and Sasahost, we choose not to go with local hosts. With this, we are leaning to Hostgator (not recommended so far by anyone on the forum) to host our website and emails. My second option would be Zohomail but I have not seen any option for their hosting our website.
So there it is....
Regards, Gerald
On 10/11/16 09:44, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks wrote:
@Gerald has been given the whole gamut of options, I am curious to know which one he picks and why...
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Steve Muchai via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
+1 for Google. Works perfectly for $sidehustle with a co.ke.
Regards, Steve
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:45 AM, alex watila via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
why not google apps or it's equivalent?
On 8 Nov 2016 21:23, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Gerald, I was in a similar situation sometime earlier in the year-I know that painful experience. If you have many users, my advise would be that you get an in-house mail server. A lot of people promise what they can't deliver. That I learnt the very painful way.
Regards, Patrick
On Nov 8, 2016 5:13 PM, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi, We are looking for a reliable email host service for a .co.ke domain. We currently use Sasahost but their services have proved unreliable with their servers being blacklisted too often. We also tried Safaricom business services and we all know how those are.
Any advice is mush appreciated.
Regards, Gerald
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Lots of options on either side of the equation. Cheapest and fastest is zoho.., I personally don't see why you should complain about them not hosting your website as they are hosting your mail free. Put your DNS on cloud flare, point MX to zoho, and hosting to whomever. On 12 Nov 2016 12:45, "Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I did not say 170K/per year, unless my English let me down. I meant a one time hardware acquisition and setup fee of 170K. A properly setup Unix-based mail server doesn't require so much maintenance from my experience. Software is free. Perhaps you can elucidate on the Risks? The organization does have computing equipment in the office, which the server becomes part of so the risks would be mitigated in the same way as for the other equipment I believe.
On 11 November 2016 at 22:01, Maisiba Bravo <riggson87@gmail.com> wrote:
Wash,
170k/yr for an enterprise mail server (Hardware, Software, Setup, Maintanence, Risks....), not logic.
Breakdown please
On Nov 11, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Leonard,
Allow me to ask - how cost-effective is siteground? An entry level server costs $229.00/mo, which is KES 274,800/yr. If this guy bought his own in-house server (entry-level), it would probably cost KES 120,000 or thereabouts. He then uses a systems integrator consultant to setup the mail/spam filtering/virus filtering services at, say 50K on the higher side, which comes to 170K. Server's electricit consumption cannot add up to 100K per year, so there's so much saving. If you project/extrapolate that to 5yrs you can see the savings... BTW, if this guy goes for one of those HP workstations, it will even be better. I have a couple that have been running 24/7/265 for 5+ years and going strength to strength...
Anyway, every man to himself. One man's meat is another's poison.. :-)
On 11 November 2016 at 17:58, Leonard Waruingi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Check siteground.com. I migrated from Google as it was becoming expensive.
Regards, Leonard Waruingi
On Nov 10, 2016 11:30, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Peter, With our bad experience with Safaricom Business and Sasahost, we choose not to go with local hosts. With this, we are leaning to Hostgator (not recommended so far by anyone on the forum) to host our website and emails. My second option would be Zohomail but I have not seen any option for their hosting our website.
So there it is....
Regards, Gerald
On 10/11/16 09:44, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks wrote:
@Gerald has been given the whole gamut of options, I am curious to know which one he picks and why...
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Steve Muchai via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
+1 for Google. Works perfectly for $sidehustle with a co.ke.
Regards, Steve
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:45 AM, alex watila via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
why not google apps or it's equivalent?
On 8 Nov 2016 21:23, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Gerald, I was in a similar situation sometime earlier in the year-I know that painful experience. If you have many users, my advise would be that you get an in-house mail server. A lot of people promise what they can't deliver. That I learnt the very painful way.
Regards, Patrick
On Nov 8, 2016 5:13 PM, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi, We are looking for a reliable email host service for a .co.ke domain. We currently use Sasahost but their services have proved unreliable with their servers being blacklisted too often. We also tried Safaricom business services and we all know how those are.
Any advice is mush appreciated.
Regards, Gerald
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Try Ipage On Monday, November 14, 2016, Collins Areba via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Lots of options on either side of the equation. Cheapest and fastest is zoho.., I personally don't see why you should complain about them not hosting your website as they are hosting your mail free.
Put your DNS on cloud flare, point MX to zoho, and hosting to whomever.
On 12 Nov 2016 12:45, "Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
I did not say 170K/per year, unless my English let me down. I meant a one time hardware acquisition and setup fee of 170K. A properly setup Unix-based mail server doesn't require so much maintenance from my experience. Software is free. Perhaps you can elucidate on the Risks? The organization does have computing equipment in the office, which the server becomes part of so the risks would be mitigated in the same way as for the other equipment I believe.
On 11 November 2016 at 22:01, Maisiba Bravo <riggson87@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','riggson87@gmail.com');>> wrote:
Wash,
170k/yr for an enterprise mail server (Hardware, Software, Setup, Maintanence, Risks....), not logic.
Breakdown please
On Nov 11, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
Leonard,
Allow me to ask - how cost-effective is siteground? An entry level server costs $229.00/mo, which is KES 274,800/yr. If this guy bought his own in-house server (entry-level), it would probably cost KES 120,000 or thereabouts. He then uses a systems integrator consultant to setup the mail/spam filtering/virus filtering services at, say 50K on the higher side, which comes to 170K. Server's electricit consumption cannot add up to 100K per year, so there's so much saving. If you project/extrapolate that to 5yrs you can see the savings... BTW, if this guy goes for one of those HP workstations, it will even be better. I have a couple that have been running 24/7/265 for 5+ years and going strength to strength...
Anyway, every man to himself. One man's meat is another's poison.. :-)
On 11 November 2016 at 17:58, Leonard Waruingi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
Check siteground.com. I migrated from Google as it was becoming expensive.
Regards, Leonard Waruingi
On Nov 10, 2016 11:30, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
Hi Peter, With our bad experience with Safaricom Business and Sasahost, we choose not to go with local hosts. With this, we are leaning to Hostgator (not recommended so far by anyone on the forum) to host our website and emails. My second option would be Zohomail but I have not seen any option for their hosting our website.
So there it is....
Regards, Gerald
On 10/11/16 09:44, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks wrote:
@Gerald has been given the whole gamut of options, I am curious to know which one he picks and why...
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Steve Muchai via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
+1 for Google. Works perfectly for $sidehustle with a co.ke.
Regards, Steve
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:45 AM, alex watila via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
why not google apps or it's equivalent?
On 8 Nov 2016 21:23, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
Hi Gerald, I was in a similar situation sometime earlier in the year-I know that painful experience. If you have many users, my advise would be that you get an in-house mail server. A lot of people promise what they can't deliver. That I learnt the very painful way.
Regards, Patrick
On Nov 8, 2016 5:13 PM, "Gerald Ngui via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
Hi, We are looking for a reliable email host service for a .co.ke domain. We currently use Sasahost but their services have proved unreliable with their servers being blacklisted too often. We also tried Safaricom business services and we all know how those are.
Any advice is mush appreciated.
Regards, Gerald
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