Dear All, Do IT Admins still have local mail servers considering we have the cloud servers and domains servers being cheaper online. Rgds Chege
Very many people still have local mail servers Regards, On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Chege via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Dear All,
Do IT Admins still have local mail servers considering we have the cloud servers and domains servers being cheaper online.
Rgds
Chege
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Chege, I guess they are. There are more factors to consider to migrate a service to cloud than just cost. J@m3s On Oct 9, 2015 9:52 AM, "Chege via skunkworks" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Dear All,
Do IT Admins still have local mail servers considering we have the cloud servers and domains servers being cheaper online.
Rgds
Chege
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Different requirements! To some, cost is not the major concern. The paranoid type steer clear of anything cloud. Hillary Clinton had her's at home, remember? Tony.
I second Tony. cloud services are still viewed as 'insecure'. However, there is a wave of adoption of office 365 and Google apps in most organizations. Maybe in a few years this will be a norm methinks. Kiri. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Different requirements! To some, cost is not the major concern. The paranoid type steer clear of anything cloud. Hillary Clinton had her's at home, remember?
Tony.
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Most decision makers don’t understand how the cloud and security works mostly because as IT professionals we don’t take time to sell it to them before proposing migration hence the belief that having servers hosted on premise, under lock and key is enough. From: kiri kish via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 11:11 AM To: Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Mail Server I second Tony. cloud services are still viewed as 'insecure'. However, there is a wave of adoption of office 365 and Google apps in most organizations. Maybe in a few years this will be a norm methinks. Kiri. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: Different requirements! To some, cost is not the major concern. The paranoid type steer clear of anything cloud. Hillary Clinton had her's at home, remember? Tony. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Kind Regards, Kiri.
George, Give it a few years I'd say from experience to change status quo takes a while. Like how many on Microsoft Office have adopted Office 365 ? Most don't even understand the cost structure as it has changed to license renewal annually. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:40 AM, George Irungu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Most decision makers don’t understand how the cloud and security works mostly because as IT professionals we don’t take time to sell it to them before proposing migration hence the belief that having servers hosted on premise, under lock and key is enough.
*From:* kiri kish via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2015 11:11 AM *To:* Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Mail Server
I second Tony. cloud services are still viewed as 'insecure'. However, there is a wave of adoption of office 365 and Google apps in most organizations.
Maybe in a few years this will be a norm methinks.
Kiri.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Different requirements! To some, cost is not the major concern. The paranoid type steer clear of anything cloud. Hillary Clinton had her's at home, remember?
Tony.
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Thank You All, But on the same Note which stable cloud mail server do you recommend ooops cheap too Rgds On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
George,
Give it a few years I'd say from experience to change status quo takes a while.
Like how many on Microsoft Office have adopted Office 365 ? Most don't even understand the cost structure as it has changed to license renewal annually.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:40 AM, George Irungu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Most decision makers don’t understand how the cloud and security works mostly because as IT professionals we don’t take time to sell it to them before proposing migration hence the belief that having servers hosted on premise, under lock and key is enough.
*From:* kiri kish via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2015 11:11 AM *To:* Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Mail Server
I second Tony. cloud services are still viewed as 'insecure'. However, there is a wave of adoption of office 365 and Google apps in most organizations.
Maybe in a few years this will be a norm methinks.
Kiri.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Different requirements! To some, cost is not the major concern. The paranoid type steer clear of anything cloud. Hillary Clinton had her's at home, remember?
Tony.
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Office 365 & Google Apps are all convenient and reliable. Google apps is far cheaper than Office 365. Equally you can easily migrate btw the 2. Note : Google doesnt do domain hosting, office365 does. Bravo
On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Chege via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Thank You All,
But on the same Note which stable cloud mail server do you recommend ooops cheap too
Rgds
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: George,
Give it a few years I'd say from experience to change status quo takes a while.
Like how many on Microsoft Office have adopted Office 365 ? Most don't even understand the cost structure as it has changed to license renewal annually.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:40 AM, George Irungu via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Most decision makers don’t understand how the cloud and security works mostly because as IT professionals we don’t take time to sell it to them before proposing migration hence the belief that having servers hosted on premise, under lock and key is enough.
From: kiri kish via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 11:11 AM To: Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Mail Server
I second Tony. cloud services are still viewed as 'insecure'. However, there is a wave of adoption of office 365 and Google apps in most organizations.
Maybe in a few years this will be a norm methinks.
Kiri.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Different requirements! To some, cost is not the major concern. The paranoid type steer clear of anything cloud. Hillary Clinton had her's at home, remember?
Tony.
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+1 Riggson On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Riggson87 <riggson87@gmail.com> wrote:
Office 365 & Google Apps are all convenient and reliable. Google apps is far cheaper than Office 365. Equally you can easily migrate btw the 2. Note : Google doesnt do domain hosting, office365 does.
Bravo
On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Chege via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Thank You All,
But on the same Note which stable cloud mail server do you recommend ooops cheap too
Rgds
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
George,
Give it a few years I'd say from experience to change status quo takes a while.
Like how many on Microsoft Office have adopted Office 365 ? Most don't even understand the cost structure as it has changed to license renewal annually.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:40 AM, George Irungu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Most decision makers don’t understand how the cloud and security works mostly because as IT professionals we don’t take time to sell it to them before proposing migration hence the belief that having servers hosted on premise, under lock and key is enough.
*From:* kiri kish via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2015 11:11 AM *To:* Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Mail Server
I second Tony. cloud services are still viewed as 'insecure'. However, there is a wave of adoption of office 365 and Google apps in most organizations.
Maybe in a few years this will be a norm methinks.
Kiri.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Different requirements! To some, cost is not the major concern. The paranoid type steer clear of anything cloud. Hillary Clinton had her's at home, remember?
Tony.
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Is it technically possible to setup an email server? Yes it is. You could even do it almost free of charge using open source software postfix, dovecot, CentOS, Ubuntu server,etc. If you get stuck Wash the guru will sort you out. :) If email communication is critical to the organization i.e you could lose business if emails are not sent or replied to in time, you need to ensure you have a very good internet connection and good power options before you can host a local mail server! In many African countries(Kenya included), you never get 'super good' internet connections with no downtimes at all. Getting a backup ISP has the tendency to increase an organization's OPEX and you need to have valid points for finance to approve it. Moreover, countries like Ghana and Nigeria are case studies of how blackouts can be a big pain! In South Africa, this almost caused a revolution. Power and internet connection problems are compelling reasons why you should set up your email server on a cloud service provider. You still have the full control you want plus good uptime. Short answer : It is possible to setup a local mail server. But not advisable in my opinion unless you have a very good reason for it. ./muya On Oct 9, 2015 9:53 AM, "Chege via skunkworks" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
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Do IT Admins still have local mail servers considering we have the cloud servers and domains servers being cheaper online.
Rgds
Chege
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