Embedded Linux GUI for automotive systems

Are the embedded In-dash GUI systems (we get them in Japanese, for X-Japan imports) reprogrammable? Can we be able to reuse the hardware by flashing out the automotive OEMs(in Japanese) and installing an embedded Linux solution(made in Kenya using available opensource UI toolkits) providing readable applications(in English and Swahili) and depending with its capabilities provide Navigation applications, entertainment, wireless telephony, Internet connectivity, remote productivity, and other in-car applications? - a in-dash GUI system with built-in bluetooth can provide an interesting array services by dialling into the internet using your bluetooth enabled phone. See - http://tinyurl.com/359ausx

It would be wise to know the underlying (maybe EEPROM) chip: ARM, PIC, Motorola,etc and the board supporting it. With the right reprogramming software, I'm sure its possible. But rather than "hacking", get an ARM11 MPCore....then you can do all fancy stuff with it...I'm sure there's an embedded linux distro that supports it... Bernard On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Are the embedded In-dash GUI systems (we get them in Japanese, for X-Japan imports) reprogrammable? Can we be able to reuse the hardware by flashing out the automotive OEMs(in Japanese) and installing an embedded Linux solution(made in Kenya using available opensource UI toolkits) providing readable applications(in English and Swahili) and depending with its capabilities provide Navigation applications, entertainment, wireless telephony, Internet connectivity, remote productivity, and other in-car applications? - a in-dash GUI system with built-in bluetooth can provide an interesting array services by dialling into the internet using your bluetooth enabled phone.
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MeeGo (Nokia) launched such a distro. Its basically a platform for developing mobile/notebook apps to run on ARM. See http://meego.com/downloads/releases/in-vehicle On 9 November 2010 07:58, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be wise to know the underlying (maybe EEPROM) chip: ARM, PIC, Motorola,etc and the board supporting it. With the right reprogramming software, I'm sure its possible. But rather than "hacking", get an ARM11 MPCore....then you can do all fancy stuff with it...I'm sure there's an embedded linux distro that supports it...
Bernard
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com
wrote:
Are the embedded In-dash GUI systems (we get them in Japanese, for X-Japan imports) reprogrammable? Can we be able to reuse the hardware by flashing out the automotive OEMs(in Japanese) and installing an embedded Linux solution(made in Kenya using available opensource UI toolkits) providing readable applications(in English and Swahili) and depending with its capabilities provide Navigation applications, entertainment, wireless telephony, Internet connectivity, remote productivity, and other in-car applications? - a in-dash GUI system with built-in bluetooth can provide an interesting array services by dialling into the internet using your bluetooth enabled phone.
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Does MeeGo support bluetooth? On 11/9/10, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
MeeGo (Nokia) launched such a distro. Its basically a platform for developing mobile/notebook apps to run on ARM. See http://meego.com/downloads/releases/in-vehicle
On 9 November 2010 07:58, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be wise to know the underlying (maybe EEPROM) chip: ARM, PIC, Motorola,etc and the board supporting it. With the right reprogramming software, I'm sure its possible. But rather than "hacking", get an ARM11 MPCore....then you can do all fancy stuff with it...I'm sure there's an embedded linux distro that supports it...
Bernard
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com
wrote:
Are the embedded In-dash GUI systems (we get them in Japanese, for X-Japan imports) reprogrammable? Can we be able to reuse the hardware by flashing out the automotive OEMs(in Japanese) and installing an embedded Linux solution(made in Kenya using available opensource UI toolkits) providing readable applications(in English and Swahili) and depending with its capabilities provide Navigation applications, entertainment, wireless telephony, Internet connectivity, remote productivity, and other in-car applications? - a in-dash GUI system with built-in bluetooth can provide an interesting array services by dialling into the internet using your bluetooth enabled phone.
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From the website, yes it does. I actually came across MeeGo on distrowatch.com so I got curious and looked around the site. Am an absolute noob on embedded/real-time linux so if you guys do get started by all means let me know, nitawabebea spanner na borot !
On 9 November 2010 08:17, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Does MeeGo support bluetooth?
On 11/9/10, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
MeeGo (Nokia) launched such a distro. Its basically a platform for developing mobile/notebook apps to run on ARM. See http://meego.com/downloads/releases/in-vehicle
On 9 November 2010 07:58, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be wise to know the underlying (maybe EEPROM) chip: ARM, PIC, Motorola,etc and the board supporting it. With the right reprogramming software, I'm sure its possible. But rather than "hacking", get an ARM11 MPCore....then you can do all fancy stuff with it...I'm sure there's an embedded linux distro that supports it...
Bernard
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki < patrick.kariuki@gmail.com
wrote:
Are the embedded In-dash GUI systems (we get them in Japanese, for X-Japan imports) reprogrammable? Can we be able to reuse the hardware by flashing out the automotive OEMs(in Japanese) and installing an embedded Linux solution(made in Kenya using available opensource UI toolkits) providing readable applications(in English and Swahili) and depending with its capabilities provide Navigation applications, entertainment, wireless telephony, Internet connectivity, remote productivity, and other in-car applications? - a in-dash GUI system with built-in bluetooth can provide an interesting array services by dialling into the internet using your bluetooth enabled phone.
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Good idea Bernard, what are your thoughts on the vehicles CAN architecture, is obtaining the complete set of hardware from say a Toyota, feasible? Is anybody on the list able to salvaging one from a write-off, at minimal or no cost? On 11/9/10, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be wise to know the underlying (maybe EEPROM) chip: ARM, PIC, Motorola,etc and the board supporting it. With the right reprogramming software, I'm sure its possible. But rather than "hacking", get an ARM11 MPCore....then you can do all fancy stuff with it...I'm sure there's an embedded linux distro that supports it...
Bernard
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Are the embedded In-dash GUI systems (we get them in Japanese, for X-Japan imports) reprogrammable? Can we be able to reuse the hardware by flashing out the automotive OEMs(in Japanese) and installing an embedded Linux solution(made in Kenya using available opensource UI toolkits) providing readable applications(in English and Swahili) and depending with its capabilities provide Navigation applications, entertainment, wireless telephony, Internet connectivity, remote productivity, and other in-car applications? - a in-dash GUI system with built-in bluetooth can provide an interesting array services by dialling into the internet using your bluetooth enabled phone.
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http://www.nokia.com/terminalmode <http://www.nokia.com/terminalmode>Pay them a visit. There is a superb video On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Good idea Bernard, what are your thoughts on the vehicles CAN architecture, is obtaining the complete set of hardware from say a Toyota, feasible? Is anybody on the list able to salvaging one from a write-off, at minimal or no cost?
On 11/9/10, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be wise to know the underlying (maybe EEPROM) chip: ARM, PIC, Motorola,etc and the board supporting it. With the right reprogramming software, I'm sure its possible. But rather than "hacking", get an ARM11 MPCore....then you can do all fancy stuff with it...I'm sure there's an embedded linux distro that supports it...
Bernard
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Are the embedded In-dash GUI systems (we get them in Japanese, for X-Japan imports) reprogrammable? Can we be able to reuse the hardware by flashing out the automotive OEMs(in Japanese) and installing an embedded Linux solution(made in Kenya using available opensource UI toolkits) providing readable applications(in English and Swahili) and depending with its capabilities provide Navigation applications, entertainment, wireless telephony, Internet connectivity, remote productivity, and other in-car applications? - a in-dash GUI system with built-in bluetooth can provide an interesting array services by dialling into the internet using your bluetooth enabled phone.
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Brian, I doubt Nokia Terminal mode can handle all AUTOSAR functions that some in-dash hardware is capable of, looks to me like its more of entertainment. On 11/9/10, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.nokia.com/terminalmode
<http://www.nokia.com/terminalmode>Pay them a visit. There is a superb video
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Good idea Bernard, what are your thoughts on the vehicles CAN architecture, is obtaining the complete set of hardware from say a Toyota, feasible? Is anybody on the list able to salvaging one from a write-off, at minimal or no cost?
On 11/9/10, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be wise to know the underlying (maybe EEPROM) chip: ARM, PIC, Motorola,etc and the board supporting it. With the right reprogramming software, I'm sure its possible. But rather than "hacking", get an ARM11 MPCore....then you can do all fancy stuff with it...I'm sure there's an embedded linux distro that supports it...
Bernard
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Are the embedded In-dash GUI systems (we get them in Japanese, for X-Japan imports) reprogrammable? Can we be able to reuse the hardware by flashing out the automotive OEMs(in Japanese) and installing an embedded Linux solution(made in Kenya using available opensource UI toolkits) providing readable applications(in English and Swahili) and depending with its capabilities provide Navigation applications, entertainment, wireless telephony, Internet connectivity, remote productivity, and other in-car applications? - a in-dash GUI system with built-in bluetooth can provide an interesting array services by dialling into the internet using your bluetooth enabled phone.
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Hey this is interesting got my full support. On 11/9/10, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Brian, I doubt Nokia Terminal mode can handle all AUTOSAR functions that some in-dash hardware is capable of, looks to me like its more of entertainment.
On 11/9/10, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.nokia.com/terminalmode
<http://www.nokia.com/terminalmode>Pay them a visit. There is a superb video
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Good idea Bernard, what are your thoughts on the vehicles CAN architecture, is obtaining the complete set of hardware from say a Toyota, feasible? Is anybody on the list able to salvaging one from a write-off, at minimal or no cost?
On 11/9/10, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be wise to know the underlying (maybe EEPROM) chip: ARM, PIC, Motorola,etc and the board supporting it. With the right reprogramming software, I'm sure its possible. But rather than "hacking", get an ARM11 MPCore....then you can do all fancy stuff with it...I'm sure there's an embedded linux distro that supports it...
Bernard
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Are the embedded In-dash GUI systems (we get them in Japanese, for X-Japan imports) reprogrammable? Can we be able to reuse the hardware by flashing out the automotive OEMs(in Japanese) and installing an embedded Linux solution(made in Kenya using available opensource UI toolkits) providing readable applications(in English and Swahili) and depending with its capabilities provide Navigation applications, entertainment, wireless telephony, Internet connectivity, remote productivity, and other in-car applications? - a in-dash GUI system with built-in bluetooth can provide an interesting array services by dialling into the internet using your bluetooth enabled phone.
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maybe this could be what Kenya has to offer the Open source world? On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:01 PM, TheMburu George <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey this is interesting got my full support.
On 11/9/10, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Brian, I doubt Nokia Terminal mode can handle all AUTOSAR functions that some in-dash hardware is capable of, looks to me like its more of entertainment.
On 11/9/10, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.nokia.com/terminalmode
<http://www.nokia.com/terminalmode>Pay them a visit. There is a superb video
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Good idea Bernard, what are your thoughts on the vehicles CAN architecture, is obtaining the complete set of hardware from say a Toyota, feasible? Is anybody on the list able to salvaging one from a write-off, at minimal or no cost?
On 11/9/10, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be wise to know the underlying (maybe EEPROM) chip: ARM, PIC, Motorola,etc and the board supporting it. With the right reprogramming software, I'm sure its possible. But rather than "hacking", get an ARM11 MPCore....then you can do all fancy stuff with it...I'm sure there's an embedded linux distro that supports it...
Bernard
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Are the embedded In-dash GUI systems (we get them in Japanese, for X-Japan imports) reprogrammable? Can we be able to reuse the hardware by flashing out the automotive OEMs(in Japanese) and installing an embedded Linux solution(made in Kenya using available opensource UI toolkits) providing readable applications(in English and Swahili) and depending with its capabilities provide Navigation applications, entertainment, wireless telephony, Internet connectivity, remote productivity, and other in-car applications? - a in-dash GUI system with built-in bluetooth can provide an interesting array services by dialling into the internet using your bluetooth enabled phone.
See - http://tinyurl.com/359ausx _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Here’s a to-do list that we should start with; 1. Determine whether the kits are reprogrammable – Listing common Makes & models with in-dash GUI kits. 2. Source for the complete hardware kit from a write-off and/or write to one of the Japanese manufacturers requesting for a in-car GUI prototype on a research and development basis – with the aim of providing a more functional (and, understandable) in-dash GUI for X-Japan imports to Kenya, hoping they agree (after signing a million and one non-disclosure agreements). 3. Project OpenDashibodi kick-off – bringing together the bunch of local open source developers we’ve been ranting about. Eventually, we can have the ushahidi team develop an API for it…. I’m sure a number of NGOs would like their SUVs equipped with such a tool, and the rest we can leave to our brothers and sisters out to make a quick-kill to figure out what to do with it, but not before throwing a big OpenDashibodi party. :-)

A follow up to the progress in FAQ form:* Any response from the manufacturers? *Yes. and Unfortunately: Dear Mr. me, Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc. We apologize, as we do not send samples of any of our products for research. Thank you fro your interest in our company and technology. Again, we apologize for the inconvenience and we are sorry we cannot be of more assistance. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us www.toyota.com/help/contactus.html. Sincerely, .....Some Chic....... Toyota Customer Experience * What's the electronic architecture of the vehicles like? * We're looking at an embedding of upto 500MB on more than 70 microprocessors connected to the vehicles communication(controller) networks, with roughly 1-2 multimedia bus(s). An embedded linux from scratch solution requires roughly around 4MB ro run properly. *What types of applications are installed on the software that comes with the car? * The main applications installed deal with the vehicle's operation(we'll probably leave the Electrical and Electronic Engineering students to work on these API - depending on the type of vehicle it involves calculating floating point values for underlying control models, effective scheduling cyclic activities and validating simulated control laws) but there's also the multimedia and telematic applications(readily available on opensource based on GTK+ UI toolkits). All these are accessible from the in-dash VDU. *Why are the applications in Japanese? * Because, the imported cars coming in we're previously made for the Japanese market and the first owner probably had no problem navigating through the applications. * What should we be looking for, to understand how it all works?* The VDU should be connected to another systems unit that houses the microcontrollers with dedicated microprocessor(s) - with ROM and RAM support, still on the dash-board. *I'm floating. * Ok. Sarah Conner has to destroy every single body part of the terminator modules sent out from the future to kill her son. Why? because the terminator's multiprocessor architecture allows it to regenerate from any part of the dedicated coprocessors located around its body. What we're trying to do here, is access the microprocessor responsible for translating all visual information received from it's eyes, into machine language. That microprocessor is obviously somewhere on that 888's head, and near those glowing red eyes. *I'm still floating. * Ok. abort the thread. :-) *We've taken the VDU out and the system's unit that goes with it, now what? * I have no idea, yet - we need a way to access the processor and memory subsystem so that we can upload the embedded linux solution..... ANY IDEAS? *Gasp!

Some inspirational reads to go with the FAQ: http://bit.ly/aIIjQB http://bit.ly/ah6prS http://bit.ly/aIIjQB

http://bit.ly/bqEIbc On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com
wrote:
Some inspirational reads to go with the FAQ:
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