In this day and era i dont understand when someone says "the site is under maintenance it will be up by morning" in other words the YU team are telling their customers "it is ok if there is some downtime or if you dont get information on our website as it is under maintenance" !?! How hard is it to redirect your customers instead of a "total blackout"? Guys lets be serious with business. regards, On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Robert Kuria <robbydeno@googlemail.com>wrote:

Hi Mark,

The site is under maintenance it will be up by morning.Thank you very much for your concern.

Regards, Robert.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:

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if there is anyone from yu here please note that your site is down. . . .

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Nice Kuria.:) -- Regards Martin

it is the simple things that you don't do..... On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:

@Paul Roy - "it is the simple things you do"

2009/9/30 Paul Roy <roykoikai@gmail.com>

In this day and era i dont understand when someone says "the site is under

...

maintenance it will be up by morning" in other words the YU team are telling their customers "it is ok if there is some downtime or if you dont get information on our website as it is under maintenance" !?! How hard is it to redirect your customers instead of a "total blackout"? Guys lets be serious with business.

regards,

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Robert Kuria <robbydeno@googlemail.com>wrote:

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Hi Mark,

The site is under maintenance it will be up by morning.Thank you very much for your concern.

Regards, Robert.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:

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if there is anyone from yu here please note that your site is down. . . .

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This is actually rather sad as yu are supposed to be after the youth market. . . they should thus ensure up time that is better than or matches face book and other social networks. . . .haven't seen their presence on facebook and twitter. . .They have a massive market but are not sure how to tap it. . .they have a pretty website which just needs polishing up on usability and integrate it with their mobile service. . .like create a profile that can be updated via sms (since their sms's are free anyway) and allow chat via the same. . . .(pc to sms n vice versa. . .) wish I could work with them. . .They could seriously shake up Safaricom n co. Just my nontechnical thots. . . .. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com> wrote:

Paul Roy wrote: Guys lets be serious

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with business.

@Roy, how much revenue does the yu website generate for them?. if it constituted even 10% of the daily revenues it cannot go down. If its just an online presence then it can be up tomorrow and no revenues are lost in the process.

I suppose that view point would help us understand why websites uptime has a direct impact on business or not. If you build on this, the security follows and loads of other issues.

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They have a dormant facebook page. They are a nice network, but after complaining of data issues in areas south of nairobi for long, i realised i was more of spamming them than complaining. Am now back to safaricom, calling at cheaper than before rates and using their bundles, while they no longer receive spam from me, and we are both happy that way. On 30/09/2009, kennedy kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:

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This is actually rather sad as yu are supposed to be after the youth market. . . they should thus ensure up time that is better than or matches face book and other social networks. . . .haven't seen their presence on facebook and twitter. . .They have a massive market but are not sure how to tap it. . .they have a pretty website which just needs polishing up on usability and integrate it with their mobile service. . .like create a profile that can be updated via sms (since their sms's are free anyway) and allow chat via the same. . . .(pc to sms n vice versa. . .) wish I could work with them. . .They could seriously shake up Safaricom n co. Just my nontechnical thots. . . ..

Thots noted!

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I totally agree with Roy on this one - even if its just a presence, you should have a site always online ./Ok3ch On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Paul Roy <roykoikai@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi @Mich,

I belive not every aspects of doing business is tied to revenue, there are other factors that are "image" based but still can be narrowed down to the impact it makes on the bottom line. Example am a YU customer yesterday I wanted to call their customer care as a youth and a techie the first place I will look for this info is on their website. Imediately I find their website down, I start distrusting them with my money and soon I will definately think of a better option. To crown it all for someone to put it casually that "yes not being able to reach us is normal as far as we are under maintenance" that is NOT acceptable.

i concur with you Jared Nothing in this world is 100% Pithon On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:

Guys

Whats wrong with a site being down? At times the need for technology is just overstretched,there are billboards all over the place,you can call 100 to get help, yellow pages to get directions or call a friend. Other than Skunks here how many YU customers noticed that the website was down. Then again, how many hits does the website attract to warrant emergency kind of response? To YU as a company,how much business is lost in the event that a website is down. Many companies do websites just for the sake of it and as a sign of stature rather than as a source of revenue. Ebay might not afford to be offline but YU.co.ke, let them be offline for sometime without being bashed.

2009/10/2 Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>

I totally agree with Roy on this one - even if its just a presence,

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you should have a site always online

./Ok3ch

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Paul Roy <roykoikai@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi @Mich,

I belive not every aspects of doing business is tied to revenue, there are other factors that are "image" based but still can be narrowed down to the impact it makes on the bottom line. Example am a YU customer yesterday I wanted to call their customer care as a youth and a techie the first place I will look for this info is on their website. Imediately I find their website down, I start distrusting them with my money and soon I will definately think of a better option. To crown it all for someone to put it casually that "yes not being able to reach us is normal as far as we are under maintenance" that is NOT acceptable.

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Greetings people. Know how i can subscribe to BFly? Rahim.

i guess you can, but i dont have that much stuff. i can get a copy of mint os but it is basically the same like ultimate ubuntu On 03/10/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Rahim Kara <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:

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Greetings people.

Know how i can subscribe to BFly?

Rahim.

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@ Kioko, are reading from the same initial thread abt kipepepeo? On 03/10/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:

@ Kioko, are reading from the same initial thread abt kipepepeo?

On 03/10/2009, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

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i guess you can, but i dont have that much stuff. i can get a copy of mint os but it is basically the same like ultimate ubuntu

On 03/10/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:

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On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Rahim Kara <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Greetings people.

Know how i can subscribe to BFly?

Rahim.

Rahim, you can call KDN on 020 5 000 000, 711 060 000 or check out thier site http://www.butterfly.co.ke/ , it has a contact us.

Rgds.

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@david, have you tried the gmail app? On 10/3/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

one of the disadvantages of opera mini. it usually gets gmail mixed up. my bad.

On 03/10/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:

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@ Kioko, are reading from the same initial thread abt kipepepeo?

On 03/10/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:

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@ Kioko, are reading from the same initial thread abt kipepepeo?

On 03/10/2009, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

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i guess you can, but i dont have that much stuff. i can get a copy of mint os but it is basically the same like ultimate ubuntu

On 03/10/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:

...

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Rahim Kara <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Greetings people.

Know how i can subscribe to BFly?

Rahim.

Rahim, you can call KDN on 020 5 000 000, 711 060 000 or check out thier site http://www.butterfly.co.ke/ , it has a contact us.

Rgds.

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Back to the thread, the registration page keeps redirecting to itself. Any kdn techies please help out Regards, On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

yeah, but laziness prevails when it comes to switching from one app to another. opera mini Offers a higher degree of html support including images. There is also ucweb which gives a blank white page instead of sending to wrong recepient. Problem with ucweb is that been chinese based, they at times switch you from their international to chinese servers which results in sites been filtered and blocked. The error in opera mini occurs when the order of mail changes after someone replies to a read threaded mail, making it move to the top of the queue and displace other mails by one, hence you actually reply to the thread on top of the one you were replying to.

On 03/10/2009, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:

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@david, have you tried the gmail app?

On 10/3/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

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one of the disadvantages of opera mini. it usually gets gmail mixed up. my bad.

On 03/10/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:

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@ Kioko, are reading from the same initial thread abt kipepepeo?

On 03/10/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@ Kioko, are reading from the same initial thread abt kipepepeo?

On 03/10/2009, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

i guess you can, but i dont have that much stuff. i can get a copy of mint os but it is basically the same like ultimate ubuntu

On 03/10/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Rahim Kara < skunkingrahim@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Greetings people. >> >> Know how i can subscribe to BFly? >> >> Rahim. >> > Rahim, you can call KDN on 020 5 000 000, 711 060 000 or check out > thier > site http://www.butterfly.co.ke/ , it has a contact us. > > Rgds. > > -- > www.projectskenya.info >

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