So, Windows is getting to me now... even 7 Ultimate. I'm on the trial which i got from a good friend and after a suggestion from a fellow skunk regarding Eset antivirus *( this did work quite well ) it ran well for two days before completely annoying me again. I'm looking for people who can help me rewrite this damned operating system. I know it's not open source but i'm pissed off. Anyone on-list who knows how to work on win 7's source and probably help me get a team together regarding this? Watchman. -- ...and I shall shed my light over dark evil. For the dark things cannot stand the light.
Rahim, What seems to be the problem? I have used the OS for the longest time now and i can confirm that it is stable and fast. I use mine with Security Essentials-Ms proprietory AV and I must say that the AV is quite impressive as well. It only pops when I have an AV, the rest of the time it works in the background. On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Watchman <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
So,
Windows is getting to me now... even 7 Ultimate. I'm on the trial which i got from a good friend and after a suggestion from a fellow skunk regarding Eset antivirus *( this did work quite well ) it ran well for two days before completely annoying me again. I'm looking for people who can help me rewrite this damned operating system. I know it's not open source but i'm pissed off.
Anyone on-list who knows how to work on win 7's source and probably help me get a team together regarding this?
Watchman.
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:02 PM, george < theonlydamnedavailablename@gmail.com> wrote:
Rahim, What seems to be the problem? I have used the OS for the longest time now and i can confirm that it is stable and fast. I use mine with Security Essentials-Ms proprietory AV and I must say that the AV is quite impressive as well. It only pops when I have an AV, the rest of the time it works in the background.
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VP watchman Your problem is still not quite clear. Is it a virus problem or a VGA driver problem. If you can clarify the issue and post your hardware specifications then we may be able to give you a full proof solution tho your issue. Rewriting any version of windows is next to impossible. MS only shares its source code with a select few Crème *de la* Crème corporations and reverse engineering requires that you posses expert advanced knowledge and experience with x86, IA32, AMD64 and IA64 assembly and machine code. One thing you should note about operating systems is that if you operate them like a true admin you will get the best out of them regardless of architecture or type.
@James. My current argument, though drawn from a list of issues is this. When using an OS like Linux, even when i was using RH2.7 about 16 years ago, it was a bitch to set up. But once up, the issues were only related to the admin section of the OS i.e. cache purging and DHCP Lease renewals etc. that i was still learning to use. An OS like Mac OS 10.5 onward requires so little work that it's pleasing to the general public. Windows, from as far back as i remember windows 95 and NT for admin since you are basing your point on an admin's perspective when administering, even with the MCSE track and experience to back me, i have still had to worry about a good number of issues that recurred in and got worse in win 2K server, Win 2k3 server and then i gave up on windows. Now, revert to my argument where i explain that this machine is for my parents. Yes, i can take care of the issues, that is not my problem. My problem is, in over 13 years, windows has not got to the place where it is stable. It is better, i would say 4-5 times better to the older OS's. It is beautiful as an OS. An example is, i bought a piece of Hardware for the OS. A firewire card and plugged it in. It picked up immediately ( thumbs up to Windows for drivers ). And then i plugged my camcorder in. BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH! Unplug the camcorder. restart the machine. Plug it back in. It works. That's not how things work for me if im a consumer. I can hack all this because i've been doing it with even worse operating systems.. well, they're better OS's but setup was more difficult. My point is this. If Microsoft was bent on making a brilliant operating system, Apple would have been flattened by now. With the marketshare and revenue Microsoft has, it can still do it. But they're too distracted by all the revenue coming in from support and from antiviruses and from issues they put in which they benefit from, which is why i asked about the whole rewriting. And you can't tell me it's only the Crème *de la* Crème who can get a hold of the OS's source code. I'm sure with a bit of research i can pull it out from somewhere. Making sense? Watchman. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
VP watchman
Your problem is still not quite clear. Is it a virus problem or a VGA driver problem. If you can clarify the issue and post your hardware specifications then we may be able to give you a full proof solution tho your issue.
Rewriting any version of windows is next to impossible. MS only shares its source code with a select few Crème *de la* Crème corporations and reverse engineering requires that you posses expert advanced knowledge and experience with x86, IA32, AMD64 and IA64 assembly and machine code.
One thing you should note about operating systems is that if you operate them like a true admin you will get the best out of them regardless of architecture or type.
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@Watchman, one of the reasons Macs performs very well is because Apple tightly controls the hardware and software that runs on their machines so they provide excellent support for the devices supplied. Try installing O.S X on a dell / hp box for instance and tell me if you will have better experiences than the ones mentioned above. Windows / Linux / other *NIXes on the other hand try to run on as many platforms as possible, albeit not as smoothly in some cases. At least give them some credit for that. Even if you get access to the sources of Seven from Microsoft, I doubt you will be able to build and / or compile it. I do not think Visual studio suffices for the task at all, there must be some highly specialized in-house tools for doing that. At the same time if you get past that, wrapping your head around the program might be another nightmare. I guess there must be thousands of developers working on the kernel alone which must be on or near ten of millions of lines or code. Anyway, I bet there must be a solution to your issues. Either get a better anti-virus or other drivers to your device. Martin.
True that! Even if you got the source code it will take you quite some time before you understand how it all comes together
I would not advocate for anything radical, just troubleshoot the driver that has an issue.Having used Linux, i'm sure you have gone through many agonizing hours to get a driver to work, so cut Windows 7 some slack too :) . This I must add is an isolated incidence. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
VP watchman
Your problem is still not quite clear. Is it a virus problem or a VGA driver problem. If you can clarify the issue and post your hardware specifications then we may be able to give you a full proof solution tho your issue.
Rewriting any version of windows is next to impossible. MS only shares its source code with a select few Crème *de la* Crème corporations and reverse engineering requires that you posses expert advanced knowledge and experience with x86, IA32, AMD64 and IA64 assembly and machine code.
One thing you should note about operating systems is that if you operate them like a true admin you will get the best out of them regardless of architecture or type.
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Many thanks for the views. And i will consider purchasing a new PC for the parents that is built with Win 7 in mind. BTW. Currently running Lin RH9. Mac OS 10.5 and Win 7. I know there are issues. And i never meant to make leeway for one OS over the other, simply an annoyance that Mac OS should work better than Windows 7 where Windows has a few up's on Mac OS e.g. Larger budget i'd like to believe, a larger developer base, and many more. But in any case, issues will be resolved as usual. Machines will be looked at again, and things will be restarted. Watchi. On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:56 PM, george < theonlydamnedavailablename@gmail.com> wrote:
I would not advocate for anything radical, just troubleshoot the driver that has an issue.Having used Linux, i'm sure you have gone through many agonizing hours to get a driver to work, so cut Windows 7 some slack too :) . This I must add is an isolated incidence.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
VP watchman
Your problem is still not quite clear. Is it a virus problem or a VGA driver problem. If you can clarify the issue and post your hardware specifications then we may be able to give you a full proof solution tho your issue.
Rewriting any version of windows is next to impossible. MS only shares its source code with a select few Crème *de la* Crème corporations and reverse engineering requires that you posses expert advanced knowledge and experience with x86, IA32, AMD64 and IA64 assembly and machine code.
One thing you should note about operating systems is that if you operate them like a true admin you will get the best out of them regardless of architecture or type.
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try http://www.reactos.org/ ReactOS® is a free, modern operating system based on the design of Windows® XP/2003. Written completely from scratch, it aims to follow the Windows-NT® architecture designed by Microsoft from the hardware level right through to the application level. This is not a Linux based system, and shares none of the unix architecture. The main goal of the ReactOS project is to provide an operating system which is binary compatible with Windows. This will allow your Windows applications and drivers to run as they would on your Windows system. Additionally, the look and feel of the Windows operating system is used, such that people accustomed to the familiar user interface of Windows® would find using ReactOS straightforward. The ultimate goal of ReactOS is to allow you to remove Windows® and install ReactOS without the end user noticing the change. On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Watchman <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
So,
Windows is getting to me now... even 7 Ultimate. I'm on the trial which i got from a good friend and after a suggestion from a fellow skunk regarding Eset antivirus *( this did work quite well ) it ran well for two days before completely annoying me again. I'm looking for people who can help me rewrite this damned operating system. I know it's not open source but i'm pissed off.
Anyone on-list who knows how to work on win 7's source and probably help me get a team together regarding this?
Watchman.
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Thanks for the link, Ledermann, will be looking to try it. might be good for cybers
@George The OS as far as i'm concerned is beautiful. It is so aesthetically pleasing, it caught my eye almost instantly, i sat and toyed with it and yes, it was smoother than XP or W2k. My issue is not in line with the AV. It started with a few glitches with the Video Card albeit it's an on board VGA. Whilst typing using MS Word i heard a rather chilling scream from the room below with my name repeated frantically. For a moment there i thought someone had broken in to the house only to get to the study and find my mother worried looking at a rapidly flickering screen. Kind of unnecessary and it didn't happen in earlier versions. This was an updated VGA driver from MS on the auto update function, granted things like this shouldn't bother many people, it's a "usual" thing. However, why put up with it? It's not happened to me when i use Suse, or RH, or Fedora. Why Windows? why does something happen to the product from a Fortune 500 Company? The OS is used on almost 80% of desktops around the world. @Ledermann ReactOS seems like something i'd try. Moving my parents ( 60+ in age ) to a different system from Windows 7 seems a bit.. cruel. They for the first time said. They Like it. I'd like to think they're kind of like my clients. I'd rather get them satisfied with what they have at my expense and see them happy over get them upset because i changed things too much. I will still try out ReactOS. I'm more interested in making the blooming OS work for me. Not the other way around. Feels like i'm working with the Kenyan GOV"T! Watchman. On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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@Watchman that is not an OS issue, its either a driver bug or faulty VGA card. Being a graphics programmer I have seen these problems a lot. get the manufacturer of your board and download the latest drver from them or by a separate graphics card and use it Steve ----- "Watchman" <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
@George
The OS as far as i'm concerned is beautiful. It is so aesthetically pleasing, it caught my eye almost instantly, i sat and toyed with it and yes, it was smoother than XP or W2k. My issue is not in line with the AV. It started with a few glitches with the Video Card albeit it's an on board VGA. Whilst typing using MS Word i heard a rather chilling scream from the room below with my name repeated frantically. For a moment there i thought someone had broken in to the house only to get to the study and find my mother worried looking at a rapidly flickering screen.
Kind of unnecessary and it didn't happen in earlier versions. This was an updated VGA driver from MS on the auto update function, granted things like this shouldn't bother many people, it's a "usual" thing. However, why put up with it?
It's not happened to me when i use Suse, or RH, or Fedora. Why Windows? why does something happen to the product from a Fortune 500 Company?
The OS is used on almost 80% of desktops around the world.
@Ledermann ReactOS seems like something i'd try. Moving my parents ( 60+ in age ) to a different system from Windows 7 seems a bit.. cruel. They for the first time said. They Like it. I'd like to think they're kind of like my clients. I'd rather get them satisfied with what they have at my expense and see them happy over get them upset because i changed things too much.
I will still try out ReactOS.
I'm more interested in making the blooming OS work for me. Not the other way around. Feels like i'm working with the Kenyan GOV"T!
Watchman.
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Thanks for the link, Ledermann, will be looking to try it. might be good for cybers
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The only reason i use windows, is Acunetix. On 1/16/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Watchman that is not an OS issue, its either a driver bug or faulty VGA card. Being a graphics programmer I have seen these problems a lot. get the manufacturer of your board and download the latest drver from them or by a separate graphics card and use it
Steve
----- "Watchman" <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
@George
The OS as far as i'm concerned is beautiful. It is so aesthetically pleasing, it caught my eye almost instantly, i sat and toyed with it and yes, it was smoother than XP or W2k. My issue is not in line with the AV. It started with a few glitches with the Video Card albeit it's an on board VGA. Whilst typing using MS Word i heard a rather chilling scream from the room below with my name repeated frantically. For a moment there i thought someone had broken in to the house only to get to the study and find my mother worried looking at a rapidly flickering screen.
Kind of unnecessary and it didn't happen in earlier versions. This was an updated VGA driver from MS on the auto update function, granted things like this shouldn't bother many people, it's a "usual" thing. However, why put up with it?
It's not happened to me when i use Suse, or RH, or Fedora. Why Windows? why does something happen to the product from a Fortune 500 Company?
The OS is used on almost 80% of desktops around the world.
@Ledermann ReactOS seems like something i'd try. Moving my parents ( 60+ in age ) to a different system from Windows 7 seems a bit.. cruel. They for the first time said. They Like it. I'd like to think they're kind of like my clients. I'd rather get them satisfied with what they have at my expense and see them happy over get them upset because i changed things too much.
I will still try out ReactOS.
I'm more interested in making the blooming OS work for me. Not the other way around. Feels like i'm working with the Kenyan GOV"T!
Watchman.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Dennis Kioko < dmbuvi@gmail.com > wrote:
Thanks for the link, Ledermann, will be looking to try it. might be good for cybers
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The only reason i use windows, is Acunetix. Windows is crappy, if u r used to *nix On 1/16/11, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
The only reason i use windows, is Acunetix.
On 1/16/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Watchman that is not an OS issue, its either a driver bug or faulty VGA card. Being a graphics programmer I have seen these problems a lot. get the manufacturer of your board and download the latest drver from them or by a separate graphics card and use it
Steve
----- "Watchman" <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
@George
The OS as far as i'm concerned is beautiful. It is so aesthetically pleasing, it caught my eye almost instantly, i sat and toyed with it and yes, it was smoother than XP or W2k. My issue is not in line with the AV. It started with a few glitches with the Video Card albeit it's an on board VGA. Whilst typing using MS Word i heard a rather chilling scream from the room below with my name repeated frantically. For a moment there i thought someone had broken in to the house only to get to the study and find my mother worried looking at a rapidly flickering screen.
Kind of unnecessary and it didn't happen in earlier versions. This was an updated VGA driver from MS on the auto update function, granted things like this shouldn't bother many people, it's a "usual" thing. However, why put up with it?
It's not happened to me when i use Suse, or RH, or Fedora. Why Windows? why does something happen to the product from a Fortune 500 Company?
The OS is used on almost 80% of desktops around the world.
@Ledermann ReactOS seems like something i'd try. Moving my parents ( 60+ in age ) to a different system from Windows 7 seems a bit.. cruel. They for the first time said. They Like it. I'd like to think they're kind of like my clients. I'd rather get them satisfied with what they have at my expense and see them happy over get them upset because i changed things too much.
I will still try out ReactOS.
I'm more interested in making the blooming OS work for me. Not the other way around. Feels like i'm working with the Kenyan GOV"T!
Watchman.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Dennis Kioko < dmbuvi@gmail.com > wrote:
Thanks for the link, Ledermann, will be looking to try it. might be good for cybers
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Gichuki, you pay $4000 for Acunetix? (** I move away from the comp to faint)
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Gichuki, you pay $4000 for Acunetix? (** I move away from the comp to faint)
It's his trade so no big deal! I believe with proper use, he can recoup that in no time. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
*Any operating system given the wrong operating environment will act up just the way you describe Win 7 is doing "An OS like Mac OS 10.5 onward requires so little work that it's pleasing to the general public."* Pleasing only with its pretty GUI ...but windows has a bigger library of supported software and hardware (and also a pretty GUI). An interesting article on security, check this out -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn2Own. Note. Microsoft codes its own OS from scratch. Apple derives its OS (and its stability...tho it degrades it) from opensouce BSD code and sells it to you at for an arm and a leg. *"My problem is, in over 13 years, windows has not got to the place where it is stable."* Windows, as well as any other* MATURE *operating system is only as stable as the environment you provide it. (Reliable working hardware and Widows Signed or bug free Device Drivers and software) Give any other OS unstable hardware and see the results for yourself. *"My point is this. If Microsoft was bent on making a brilliant operating system, Apple would have been flattened by now."* Microsoft doesn't need to crush Apple. It has 87.82% market share. Apple has only 7%. What would be the use? They have enough revenue from the OS, Xbox and other biz. If Microsoft wanted to, they could...they did it to Netscape.(Tho they had to face the consequences.) Note. Apple was rescued by Microsoft when they bought a US$150 million non-voting *share* of Apple
its all inertia, Used to be an addict in the days of XP. Macromedia and all. well, i said enough is enough, 1: installed linux (mandriva then) 2: Learnt how to use GIMP. 3 and installed and learnt how to use bluefish for css and scripting. never been a user of IDE's but if ever i do, ill install aptana and eclipse. Keeping it Simple STUPID! me thoughts the current "experts" are a gone case, but introducing new computer users to linux saves them in more ways than you can imagine. my 2 cnts. On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
*Any operating system given the wrong operating environment will act up just the way you describe Win 7 is doing
"An OS like Mac OS 10.5 onward requires so little work that it's pleasing to the general public." * Pleasing only with its pretty GUI ...but windows has a bigger library of supported software and hardware (and also a pretty GUI). An interesting article on security, check this out -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn2Own. Note. Microsoft codes its own OS from scratch. Apple derives its OS (and its stability...tho it degrades it) from opensouce BSD code and sells it to you at for an arm and a leg.
*"My problem is, in over 13 years, windows has not got to the place where it is stable."* Windows, as well as any other* MATURE *operating system is only as stable as the environment you provide it. (Reliable working hardware and Widows Signed or bug free Device Drivers and software) Give any other OS unstable hardware and see the results for yourself.
*"My point is this. If Microsoft was bent on making a brilliant operating system, Apple would have been flattened by now."* Microsoft doesn't need to crush Apple. It has 87.82% market share. Apple has only 7%. What would be the use? They have enough revenue from the OS, Xbox and other biz. If Microsoft wanted to, they could...they did it to Netscape.(Tho they had to face the consequences.) Note. Apple was rescued by Microsoft when they bought a US$150 million non-voting *share* of Apple
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On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Watchman that is not an OS issue, its either a driver bug or faulty VGA card. Being a graphics programmer I have seen these problems a lot. get the manufacturer of your board and download the latest drver from them or by a separate graphics card and use it
Steve
@Watchman: In another thread, you complain so much about those of us who tolerate the "system", and yet here you are making all sorts of excuses and apologies for Microsoft and Apple. You should move to a free (as in freedom) operating system, and bear the short-term inconvenience, because in the long term, this is the way to solve some of these problems. You see, if the hardware guys released the source code for their drivers, and if the Windows source code was publicly available to look at, then the whole community could join in to track down and fix the bugs promptly. Some of these companies just do not have enough resources or motivation to adequately maintain their software, and more importantly, to make and release fixes promptly. So, I urge you to join the cause of free software for all. Let us fight now for a better tomorrow! Joseph.
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Christian Ledermann -
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Martin Chiteri -
Odhiambo Washington -
Steve Obbayi -
Watchman