Outlook vs Google Apps
Hey guys, Anyone using outlook.com for free mail hosting for their domain(s)? I have read that outlook.com offers 50 free mails and skydrive space. I still like google apps but for a small group of 10 to 20 users, I stand to save almost 100k per year if I take the outlook option
If you're saving 100k out of 1M, then this argument makes sense. I suspect however that the total budget of your organization is in the 10s of millions of Kshs and therefore 100k is a very small number. Think in terms of productivity of your users, which is worth way more than 100k I hope. I personally think Google Apps is more productive and so is the better choice. -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
Anyone using outlook.com for free mail hosting for their domain(s)? I have read that outlook.com offers 50 free mails and skydrive space.
I still like google apps but for a small group of 10 to 20 users, I stand to save almost 100k per year if I take the outlook option
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Oh I wish :) Could you please elaborate on the Google Apps being more productive? I personally don't see the need to have to pay while I can get the same services for free. What sets Google Apps apart? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
If you're saving 100k out of 1M, then this argument makes sense. I suspect however that the total budget of your organization is in the 10s of millions of Kshs and therefore 100k is a very small number.
Think in terms of productivity of your users, which is worth way more than 100k I hope. I personally think Google Apps is more productive and so is the better choice.
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
Anyone using outlook.com for free mail hosting for their domain(s)? I have read that outlook.com offers 50 free mails and skydrive space.
I still like google apps but for a small group of 10 to 20 users, I stand to save almost 100k per year if I take the outlook option
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Mostly security, no need for updates, built -in document collaboration without the need for Word, etc..., and very good spam filters. But if you can't afford 100k, it doesn't matter anyway, just go for a free service and skip Google Apps. -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh I wish :)
Could you please elaborate on the Google Apps being more productive?
I personally don't see the need to have to pay while I can get the same services for free. What sets Google Apps apart?
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
If you're saving 100k out of 1M, then this argument makes sense. I suspect however that the total budget of your organization is in the 10s of millions of Kshs and therefore 100k is a very small number.
Think in terms of productivity of your users, which is worth way more than 100k I hope. I personally think Google Apps is more productive and so is the better choice.
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
Anyone using outlook.com for free mail hosting for their domain(s)? I have read that outlook.com offers 50 free mails and skydrive space.
I still like google apps but for a small group of 10 to 20 users, I stand to save almost 100k per year if I take the outlook option
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I have used both and quite frankly for the everyday end user there is not much to set them apart. For the admin though in outlook.com once you setup your user accounts you must go in and configure your fall back security questions, alternate email address etc because from the admin portal you can only either delete or disable the account. I'm guessing the change password option is available on the paid one but I could be wrong. -George Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:25:48 +0300 From: adam@varud.com To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Outlook vs Google Apps Mostly security, no need for updates, built -in document collaboration without the need for Word, etc..., and very good spam filters. But if you can't afford 100k, it doesn't matter anyway, just go for a free service and skip Google Apps. --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote: Oh I wish :) Could you please elaborate on the Google Apps being more productive? I personally don't see the need to have to pay while I can get the same services for free. What sets Google Apps apart? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote: If you're saving 100k out of 1M, then this argument makes sense. I suspect however that the total budget of your organization is in the 10s of millions of Kshs and therefore 100k is a very small number. Think in terms of productivity of your users, which is worth way more than 100k I hope. I personally think Google Apps is more productive and so is the better choice. --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote: Hey guys, Anyone using outlook.com for free mail hosting for their domain(s)? I have read that outlook.com offers 50 free mails and skydrive space. I still like google apps but for a small group of 10 to 20 users, I stand to save almost 100k per year if I take the outlook option _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
Is there much difference between hotmail and outlook.com when it comes to their design and all? ---- Kind Regards, Alex Nyalita On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, George Irungu <g.irungu@logicalcrest.co.ke>wrote:
I have used both and quite frankly for the everyday end user there is not much to set them apart.
For the admin though in outlook.com once you setup your user accounts you must go in and configure your fall back security questions, alternate email address etc because from the admin portal you can only either delete or disable the account. I'm guessing the change password option is available on the paid one but I could be wrong.
-George
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:25:48 +0300 From: adam@varud.com To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Outlook vs Google Apps
Mostly security, no need for updates, built -in document collaboration without the need for Word, etc..., and very good spam filters.
But if you can't afford 100k, it doesn't matter anyway, just go for a free service and skip Google Apps.
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh I wish :)
Could you please elaborate on the Google Apps being more productive?
I personally don't see the need to have to pay while I can get the same services for free. What sets Google Apps apart?
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
If you're saving 100k out of 1M, then this argument makes sense. I suspect however that the total budget of your organization is in the 10s of millions of Kshs and therefore 100k is a very small number.
Think in terms of productivity of your users, which is worth way more than 100k I hope. I personally think Google Apps is more productive and so is the better choice.
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
Anyone using outlook.com for free mail hosting for their domain(s)? I have read that outlook.com offers 50 free mails and skydrive space.
I still like google apps but for a small group of 10 to 20 users, I stand to save almost 100k per year if I take the outlook option
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Same thing..hotmail.com, live.com, outlook.com Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:40:51 +0300 From: nyalita@gmail.com To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Outlook vs Google Apps Is there much difference between hotmail and outlook.com when it comes to their design and all? ---- Kind Regards, Alex Nyalita On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, George Irungu <g.irungu@logicalcrest.co.ke> wrote: I have used both and quite frankly for the everyday end user there is not much to set them apart. For the admin though in outlook.com once you setup your user accounts you must go in and configure your fall back security questions, alternate email address etc because from the admin portal you can only either delete or disable the account. I'm guessing the change password option is available on the paid one but I could be wrong. -George Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:25:48 +0300 From: adam@varud.com To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Outlook vs Google Apps Mostly security, no need for updates, built -in document collaboration without the need for Word, etc..., and very good spam filters. But if you can't afford 100k, it doesn't matter anyway, just go for a free service and skip Google Apps. --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote: Oh I wish :) Could you please elaborate on the Google Apps being more productive? I personally don't see the need to have to pay while I can get the same services for free. What sets Google Apps apart? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote: If you're saving 100k out of 1M, then this argument makes sense. I suspect however that the total budget of your organization is in the 10s of millions of Kshs and therefore 100k is a very small number. Think in terms of productivity of your users, which is worth way more than 100k I hope. I personally think Google Apps is more productive and so is the better choice. --Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varudMore Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote: Hey guys, Anyone using outlook.com for free mail hosting for their domain(s)? I have read that outlook.com offers 50 free mails and skydrive space. I still like google apps but for a small group of 10 to 20 users, I stand to save almost 100k per year if I take the outlook option _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
They need to fix their content filters for me to ever recommend any enterprise to use them. ---- Kind Regards, Alex Nyalita On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:08 AM, George Irungu <g.irungu@logicalcrest.co.ke>wrote:
Same thing..hotmail.com, live.com, outlook.com
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:40:51 +0300 From: nyalita@gmail.com
To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Outlook vs Google Apps
Is there much difference between hotmail and outlook.com when it comes to their design and all?
----
Kind Regards,
Alex Nyalita
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, George Irungu < g.irungu@logicalcrest.co.ke> wrote:
I have used both and quite frankly for the everyday end user there is not much to set them apart.
For the admin though in outlook.com once you setup your user accounts you must go in and configure your fall back security questions, alternate email address etc because from the admin portal you can only either delete or disable the account. I'm guessing the change password option is available on the paid one but I could be wrong.
-George
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:25:48 +0300 From: adam@varud.com To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Outlook vs Google Apps
Mostly security, no need for updates, built -in document collaboration without the need for Word, etc..., and very good spam filters.
But if you can't afford 100k, it doesn't matter anyway, just go for a free service and skip Google Apps.
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh I wish :)
Could you please elaborate on the Google Apps being more productive?
I personally don't see the need to have to pay while I can get the same services for free. What sets Google Apps apart?
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
If you're saving 100k out of 1M, then this argument makes sense. I suspect however that the total budget of your organization is in the 10s of millions of Kshs and therefore 100k is a very small number.
Think in terms of productivity of your users, which is worth way more than 100k I hope. I personally think Google Apps is more productive and so is the better choice.
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
Anyone using outlook.com for free mail hosting for their domain(s)? I have read that outlook.com offers 50 free mails and skydrive space.
I still like google apps but for a small group of 10 to 20 users, I stand to save almost 100k per year if I take the outlook option
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