Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format. You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free. This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information. http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st... Sent from my iPad
I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya. We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently. I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum. Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
Sent from my iPad
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill? On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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If cloud technology is used, safcom had a cloud business where did it go? This should be a nice product for them to revive the cloud business My two cents ./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:19:26 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Another way of becoming GREEN _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
seriously guys? what about just getting sms bills and paying by mpesa, and contacting customer care on twitter and ranting on skunkworks after they ignore me? how greener can it get? On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:58 PM, <calvinebarongo@gmail.com> wrote:
If cloud technology is used, safcom had a cloud business where did it go? This should be a nice product for them to revive the cloud business
My two cents
./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Yes @calvine the data can be stored in the cloud with all necessary securities in place. Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2012, at 19:58, calvinebarongo@gmail.com wrote:
If cloud technology is used, safcom had a cloud business where did it go? This should be a nice product for them to revive the cloud business
My two cents
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Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number. You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails. We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices. A bit of customization is required but can be worked on.. What do you have to say about this? Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case... On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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I must be missing something here... On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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Digital mail delivers your postal mail online into a secure mailbox. Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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You open my postal mail, scan it and deliver it?? I am also missing something here, like Collins. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Digital mail delivers your postal mail online into a secure mailbox.
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
Sent from my iPad
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Probably I had not made clear earlier, Digital mail is different from email. Digital mail works with your street address or PO box in our case. We all are aware every B2C company sends postal mails to consumers either in the format of statement, bills etc through posta. Digital mail will come in between the mailers/company and posta. As I mentioned it has to be customized to work here and posta will play an important role. Posta already has database of users and it has to provide a digital space for each box which can be locally hosted or in the cloud provided all security and NDA are met. Now the question will be how the mails get digital format, this will be done by mailers who will be in between posta and companies who send mails. It will be free for the person who receives mail but will be charged to the sender a minimal fee which will be much less than costs involved in sending physical mail. I hope this makes sense now. On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:10, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
You open my postal mail, scan it and deliver it?? I am also missing something here, like Collins.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Digital mail delivers your postal mail online into a secure mailbox.
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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it still doesnt , i want you to get to the point where the companies do the actual scanning of the documents for onward transmission if I get you correctly.... many of us are anxiously waiting to roast you alive if thats the model... Also, how do I recieve this? in a flash drive? via email? in a CD? etc etc. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Probably I had not made clear earlier, Digital mail is different from email. Digital mail works with your street address or PO box in our case. We all are aware every B2C company sends postal mails to consumers either in the format of statement, bills etc through posta.
Digital mail will come in between the mailers/company and posta.
As I mentioned it has to be customized to work here and posta will play an important role. Posta already has database of users and it has to provide a digital space for each box which can be locally hosted or in the cloud provided all security and NDA are met.
Now the question will be how the mails get digital format, this will be done by mailers who will be in between posta and companies who send mails.
It will be free for the person who receives mail but will be charged to the sender a minimal fee which will be much less than costs involved in sending physical mail.
I hope this makes sense now.
On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:10, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
You open my postal mail, scan it and deliver it?? I am also missing something here, like Collins.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Digital mail delivers your postal mail online into a secure mailbox.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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There is no scanning required, the same data which is generated for printing will be routed to the user box. On Jun 12, 2012, at 21:08, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
it still doesnt , i want you to get to the point where the companies do the actual scanning of the documents for onward transmission if I get you correctly.... many of us are anxiously waiting to roast you alive if thats the model... Also, how do I recieve this? in a flash drive? via email? in a CD? etc etc.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Probably I had not made clear earlier, Digital mail is different from email. Digital mail works with your street address or PO box in our case. We all are aware every B2C company sends postal mails to consumers either in the format of statement, bills etc through posta.
Digital mail will come in between the mailers/company and posta.
As I mentioned it has to be customized to work here and posta will play an important role. Posta already has database of users and it has to provide a digital space for each box which can be locally hosted or in the cloud provided all security and NDA are met.
Now the question will be how the mails get digital format, this will be done by mailers who will be in between posta and companies who send mails.
It will be free for the person who receives mail but will be charged to the sender a minimal fee which will be much less than costs involved in sending physical mail.
I hope this makes sense now.
On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:10, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
You open my postal mail, scan it and deliver it?? I am also missing something here, like Collins.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Digital mail delivers your postal mail online into a secure mailbox.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
Sent from my iPad
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If am getting Moses correctly, the mails will still be sent to postal box, only that now it will be converted to digital format u can access anytime from anywhere. You dont have to go to GPO, etc to retrieve your mails. Did I get it right? On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
There is no scanning required, the same data which is generated for printing will be routed to the user box.
On Jun 12, 2012, at 21:08, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
it still doesnt , i want you to get to the point where the companies do the actual scanning of the documents for onward transmission if I get you correctly.... many of us are anxiously waiting to roast you alive if thats the model... Also, how do I recieve this? in a flash drive? via email? in a CD? etc etc.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Probably I had not made clear earlier, Digital mail is different from email. Digital mail works with your street address or PO box in our case. We all are aware every B2C company sends postal mails to consumers either in the format of statement, bills etc through posta.
Digital mail will come in between the mailers/company and posta.
As I mentioned it has to be customized to work here and posta will play an important role. Posta already has database of users and it has to provide a digital space for each box which can be locally hosted or in the cloud provided all security and NDA are met.
Now the question will be how the mails get digital format, this will be done by mailers who will be in between posta and companies who send mails.
It will be free for the person who receives mail but will be charged to the sender a minimal fee which will be much less than costs involved in sending physical mail.
I hope this makes sense now.
On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:10, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
You open my postal mail, scan it and deliver it?? I am also missing something here, like Collins.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
Digital mail delivers your postal mail online into a secure mailbox.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format. > > You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free. > > This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information. > > http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st... > > Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Great.. @lawi you are almost there. I think you all are missing a role of a mailing company who will get the data from the sender company and forward the physical mail and as well digital mail to posta. There are two ways mails reach posta A) the sender company sends to posta where the volumes are low B) an outsourced service provider who will do the printing and mailing part who will forward it to the posta This will work when all sending companies route their mails through an authorized mailing company. Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2012, at 21:22, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
If am getting Moses correctly, the mails will still be sent to postal box, only that now it will be converted to digital format u can access anytime from anywhere.
You dont have to go to GPO, etc to retrieve your mails.
Did I get it right?
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: There is no scanning required, the same data which is generated for printing will be routed to the user box.
On Jun 12, 2012, at 21:08, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
it still doesnt , i want you to get to the point where the companies do the actual scanning of the documents for onward transmission if I get you correctly.... many of us are anxiously waiting to roast you alive if thats the model... Also, how do I recieve this? in a flash drive? via email? in a CD? etc etc.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Probably I had not made clear earlier, Digital mail is different from email. Digital mail works with your street address or PO box in our case. We all are aware every B2C company sends postal mails to consumers either in the format of statement, bills etc through posta.
Digital mail will come in between the mailers/company and posta.
As I mentioned it has to be customized to work here and posta will play an important role. Posta already has database of users and it has to provide a digital space for each box which can be locally hosted or in the cloud provided all security and NDA are met.
Now the question will be how the mails get digital format, this will be done by mailers who will be in between posta and companies who send mails.
It will be free for the person who receives mail but will be charged to the sender a minimal fee which will be much less than costs involved in sending physical mail.
I hope this makes sense now.
On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:10, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
You open my postal mail, scan it and deliver it?? I am also missing something here, like Collins.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Digital mail delivers your postal mail online into a secure mailbox.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
Sent from my iPad
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The overriding factor is atleast everybody who needs mails in digital format should have an email access, this will enable him/her to easily receive all the digital mails, I remember back in the 00s I sed to access my emails from the local post office that had a cyber like environ this died with advent of private cybers. This can still be achieved My 2 cents ./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:31:35 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Another way of becoming GREEN _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
Yes, however it will not be a mandatory requirement as you can log into your own box from any web browser and access your mails. Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2012, at 21:46, calvinebarongo@gmail.com wrote:
The overriding factor is atleast everybody who needs mails in digital format should have an email access, this will enable him/her to easily receive all the digital mails, I remember back in the 00s I sed to access my emails from the local post office that had a cyber like environ this died with advent of private cybers. This can still be achieved
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What exactly is this type of mail that cannot be sent by/via email? Few examples come to mind: Cheque Books - these cannot be replaced via digitisation Success Cards - same Ubuntu CDs (do they still send them) - They are already digital The rest, like statements, electricity bills, etc, I can still get via normal email On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, however it will not be a mandatory requirement as you can log into your own box from any web browser and access your mails.
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The overriding factor is atleast everybody who needs mails in digital format should have an email access, this will enable him/her to easily receive all the digital mails, I remember back in the 00s I sed to access my emails from the local post office that had a cyber like environ this died with advent of private cybers. This can still be achieved
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The most important is to have access to a computer/internet, the computer/internet penetration is quite low only concentrated in urban areas. On the other hand smart phone penetration is quite on the rise (when bob introduced the 100 dollar (us) smart phone) What's your take on use of mobile vs pc to access digital mails Regards ./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:49:31 To: calvinebarongo@gmail.com<calvinebarongo@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Another way of becoming GREEN Yes, however it will not be a mandatory requirement as you can log into your own box from any web browser and access your mails. Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2012, at 21:46, calvinebarongo@gmail.com wrote:
The overriding factor is atleast everybody who needs mails in digital format should have an email access, this will enable him/her to easily receive all the digital mails, I remember back in the 00s I sed to access my emails from the local post office that had a cyber like environ this died with advent of private cybers. This can still be achieved
My 2 cents
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Exactly! Why would a company send a letter which has to be converted into 'digital mail' so that I can receive it allegedly from anywhere? Why not just send it in PDF(or any other format) straight to my inbox and save the time used in the conversion? In my opinion, the only way Posta will remain relevant is by transitioning itself into a proper courier e.g let me buy stuff on Amazon and get the option of sending it to Kenya via Posta in addition to DHL! We are moving forward with technology, not backwards! On 12 June 2012 21:46, <calvinebarongo@gmail.com> wrote:
The overriding factor is atleast everybody who needs mails in digital format should have an email access, this will enable him/her to easily receive all the digital mails, I remember back in the 00s I sed to access my emails from the local post office that had a cyber like environ this died with advent of private cybers. This can still be achieved
My 2 cents
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-----Original Message----- From: Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:31:35 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Another way of becoming GREEN
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I agree with you @Moses the only way Posta will remain relevant is to change their strategies and work outside the box why should I waste time from my office/ home to go to the post office to collect my mails and on the way meet a maddening traffic waste time and fuel. At an extra cost I would not mind a bike man to get me my mails or better to get them on pdf for those I only need in softcopy Regards ./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:57:58 To: <calvinebarongo@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Another way of becoming GREEN Exactly! Why would a company send a letter which has to be converted into 'digital mail' so that I can receive it allegedly from anywhere? Why not just send it in PDF(or any other format) straight to my inbox and save the time used in the conversion? In my opinion, the only way Posta will remain relevant is by transitioning itself into a proper courier e.g let me buy stuff on Amazon and get the option of sending it to Kenya via Posta in addition to DHL! We are moving forward with technology, not backwards! On 12 June 2012 21:46, <calvinebarongo@gmail.com> wrote:
The overriding factor is atleast everybody who needs mails in digital format should have an email access, this will enable him/her to easily receive all the digital mails, I remember back in the 00s I sed to access my emails from the local post office that had a cyber like environ this died with advent of private cybers. This can still be achieved
My 2 cents
./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Yes true also what about people from outside Nairobi? How many post boxes are around in the country? Surely Costs will come down if we accept this means of receiving our postal mails. However if required you can keep both options of digital and physical mail until the user is satisfied that it's the same thing he gets but in digital format. Also imagine if you want retrieve any such documents how much time you will spend? Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2012, at 22:06, calvinebarongo@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with you @Moses the only way Posta will remain relevant is to change their strategies and work outside the box why should I waste time from my office/ home to go to the post office to collect my mails and on the way meet a maddening traffic waste time and fuel.
At an extra cost I would not mind a bike man to get me my mails or better to get them on pdf for those I only need in softcopy
Regards ./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry® From: Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:57:58 +0300 To: <calvinebarongo@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Another way of becoming GREEN
Exactly! Why would a company send a letter which has to be converted into 'digital mail' so that I can receive it allegedly from anywhere? Why not just send it in PDF(or any other format) straight to my inbox and save the time used in the conversion? In my opinion, the only way Posta will remain relevant is by transitioning itself into a proper courier e.g let me buy stuff on Amazon and get the option of sending it to Kenya via Posta in addition to DHL! We are moving forward with technology, not backwards!
On 12 June 2012 21:46, <calvinebarongo@gmail.com> wrote: The overriding factor is atleast everybody who needs mails in digital format should have an email access, this will enable him/her to easily receive all the digital mails, I remember back in the 00s I sed to access my emails from the local post office that had a cyber like environ this died with advent of private cybers. This can still be achieved
My 2 cents
./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Yes true, our aim through this solution would be reduce physical mails and not reduce email communication. Even after email being in this world for more than 10 years still physical mails are being sent.. And I am sure there should be a reason for this. Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2012, at 21:57, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly! Why would a company send a letter which has to be converted into 'digital mail' so that I can receive it allegedly from anywhere? Why not just send it in PDF(or any other format) straight to my inbox and save the time used in the conversion? In my opinion, the only way Posta will remain relevant is by transitioning itself into a proper courier e.g let me buy stuff on Amazon and get the option of sending it to Kenya via Posta in addition to DHL! We are moving forward with technology, not backwards!
On 12 June 2012 21:46, <calvinebarongo@gmail.com> wrote: The overriding factor is atleast everybody who needs mails in digital format should have an email access, this will enable him/her to easily receive all the digital mails, I remember back in the 00s I sed to access my emails from the local post office that had a cyber like environ this died with advent of private cybers. This can still be achieved
My 2 cents
./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry®
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as far as I see it, printing will have been done, whether it is delivered or not, so the approach of digitizing is just an additional "weak point" , Im thinking contracts for signing, newspaper subscriptions and a host of documents that are being fossilized by technology, it wont last long. Lets look at the potentially large "clients"... KPLC : 5554, pay via mpesa. Water CO: same as above. Bank Statements: Online / Mobile text / at the ATM. what else remains? that Ipad ive ordered from ebay? good luck digitizing that.... As someone said, only way posta is surviving is evolve into something that needs a physical branch network... On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes true, our aim through this solution would be reduce physical mails and not reduce email communication. Even after email being in this world for more than 10 years still physical mails are being sent.. And I am sure there should be a reason for this.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 12, 2012, at 21:57, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly! Why would a company send a letter which has to be converted into 'digital mail' so that I can receive it allegedly from anywhere? Why not just send it in PDF(or any other format) straight to my inbox and save the time used in the conversion? In my opinion, the only way Posta will remain relevant is by transitioning itself into a proper courier e.g let me buy stuff on Amazon and get the option of sending it to Kenya via Posta in addition to DHL! We are moving forward with technology, not backwards!
On 12 June 2012 21:46, <calvinebarongo@gmail.com> wrote:
The overriding factor is atleast everybody who needs mails in digital format should have an email access, this will enable him/her to easily receive all the digital mails, I remember back in the 00s I sed to access my emails from the local post office that had a cyber like environ this died with advent of private cybers. This can still be achieved
My 2 cents
./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry®
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@Calvin Also...your signature reads 'Sent from my Blackberry'. Tomorrow it might read 'Sent from my iPad'. What if your bills were sent to all these smart devices instead of Posta? Wouldn't that be better than even getting it delivered by a bike man? No delays and you can also print them if you like! For my grandmother who lives closer to the mountains than you would ever imagine and is also illiterate, we can retain the letter delivery to her by the chief as we think of a solution! :) Let me move you away from this discussion a bit so that I explain what I mean. Once upon a time, Apple did away with flash on their devices despite the fact that it was the 'de facto' leading technology in online video delivery. People talked...and talked ....and talked...but Apple maintained it's stand. As we speak(or type), even Adobe the creator of flash is abandoning flash for html5. Not many hours ago, Apple said they are doing away with ethernet and optical drives since they consider them 'old technology'. Do yo know what people will do? Talk some more then start adapting to the change! Moral of the story, start changing and people will change with you! Remain stagnant and 30 years from now you(or your favourite grandchild) will be getting printed bills from the (only)remaining post office in Nairobi! On 12 June 2012 22:16, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
as far as I see it, printing will have been done, whether it is delivered or not, so the approach of digitizing is just an additional "weak point" , Im thinking contracts for signing, newspaper subscriptions and a host of documents that are being fossilized by technology, it wont last long. Lets look at the potentially large "clients"...
KPLC : 5554, pay via mpesa. Water CO: same as above. Bank Statements: Online / Mobile text / at the ATM.
what else remains? that Ipad ive ordered from ebay? good luck digitizing that....
As someone said, only way posta is surviving is evolve into something that needs a physical branch network...
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes true, our aim through this solution would be reduce physical mails and not reduce email communication. Even after email being in this world for more than 10 years still physical mails are being sent.. And I am sure there should be a reason for this.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 12, 2012, at 21:57, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly! Why would a company send a letter which has to be converted into 'digital mail' so that I can receive it allegedly from anywhere? Why not just send it in PDF(or any other format) straight to my inbox and save the time used in the conversion? In my opinion, the only way Posta will remain relevant is by transitioning itself into a proper courier e.g let me buy stuff on Amazon and get the option of sending it to Kenya via Posta in addition to DHL! We are moving forward with technology, not backwards!
On 12 June 2012 21:46, <calvinebarongo@gmail.com> wrote:
The overriding factor is atleast everybody who needs mails in digital format should have an email access, this will enable him/her to easily receive all the digital mails, I remember back in the 00s I sed to access my emails from the local post office that had a cyber like environ this died with advent of private cybers. This can still be achieved
My 2 cents
./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry®
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@moses Great comments, thanks Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2012, at 22:27, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
@Calvin
Also...your signature reads 'Sent from my Blackberry'. Tomorrow it might read 'Sent from my iPad'. What if your bills were sent to all these smart devices instead of Posta? Wouldn't that be better than even getting it delivered by a bike man? No delays and you can also print them if you like! For my grandmother who lives closer to the mountains than you would ever imagine and is also illiterate, we can retain the letter delivery to her by the chief as we think of a solution! :)
Let me move you away from this discussion a bit so that I explain what I mean. Once upon a time, Apple did away with flash on their devices despite the fact that it was the 'de facto' leading technology in online video delivery. People talked...and talked ....and talked...but Apple maintained it's stand. As we speak(or type), even Adobe the creator of flash is abandoning flash for html5. Not many hours ago, Apple said they are doing away with ethernet and optical drives since they consider them 'old technology'. Do yo know what people will do? Talk some more then start adapting to the change! Moral of the story, start changing and people will change with you! Remain stagnant and 30 years from now you(or your favourite grandchild) will be getting printed bills from the (only)remaining post office in Nairobi!
On 12 June 2012 22:16, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: as far as I see it, printing will have been done, whether it is delivered or not, so the approach of digitizing is just an additional "weak point" , Im thinking contracts for signing, newspaper subscriptions and a host of documents that are being fossilized by technology, it wont last long. Lets look at the potentially large "clients"...
KPLC : 5554, pay via mpesa. Water CO: same as above. Bank Statements: Online / Mobile text / at the ATM.
what else remains? that Ipad ive ordered from ebay? good luck digitizing that....
As someone said, only way posta is surviving is evolve into something that needs a physical branch network...
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Yes true, our aim through this solution would be reduce physical mails and not reduce email communication. Even after email being in this world for more than 10 years still physical mails are being sent.. And I am sure there should be a reason for this.
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On Jun 12, 2012, at 21:57, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly! Why would a company send a letter which has to be converted into 'digital mail' so that I can receive it allegedly from anywhere? Why not just send it in PDF(or any other format) straight to my inbox and save the time used in the conversion? In my opinion, the only way Posta will remain relevant is by transitioning itself into a proper courier e.g let me buy stuff on Amazon and get the option of sending it to Kenya via Posta in addition to DHL! We are moving forward with technology, not backwards!
On 12 June 2012 21:46, <calvinebarongo@gmail.com> wrote: The overriding factor is atleast everybody who needs mails in digital format should have an email access, this will enable him/her to easily receive all the digital mails, I remember back in the 00s I sed to access my emails from the local post office that had a cyber like environ this died with advent of private cybers. This can still be achieved
My 2 cents
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Why are the following companies still relevant and profitable DHL, FEDEX, TNT etc I think there is a lot they are doing that posta aint. There is a time I sent a package to Cape Town using tnt and they gave me a tracking number, I could log online and see the status and location of my package There is a lot to be done in the mail digitization ./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:48:03 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Another way of becoming GREEN _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
This is all complete rubbish - if you need anything digitized, send it via email. If Posta cant reinvent itself as the likes of DHL (This is German Posta btw, still owned by the Government) and FEDEX (American Posta), then let it die a natural death. Dont try justifying some digitized format which we all know is email! ./Ok3ch On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:03 AM, <calvinebarongo@gmail.com> wrote:
Why are the following companies still relevant and profitable DHL, FEDEX, TNT etc I think there is a lot they are doing that posta aint.
There is a time I sent a package to Cape Town using tnt and they gave me a tracking number, I could log online and see the status and location of my package
There is a lot to be done in the mail digitization
./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry®
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@./Ok3ch true very true... This thread should be over... Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:14:51 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Another way of becoming GREEN This is all complete rubbish - if you need anything digitized, send it via email. If Posta cant reinvent itself as the likes of DHL (This is German Posta btw, still owned by the Government) and FEDEX (American Posta), then let it die a natural death. Dont try justifying some digitized format which we all know is email! ./Ok3ch On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:03 AM, <calvinebarongo@gmail.com> wrote:
Why are the following companies still relevant and profitable DHL, FEDEX, TNT etc I think there is a lot they are doing that posta aint.
There is a time I sent a package to Cape Town using tnt and they gave me a tracking number, I could log online and see the status and location of my package
There is a lot to be done in the mail digitization
./Cal Sent from my BlackBerry®
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@Okechukwu, FedEx is not the American Posta. It is a private company. The real American Posta is USPS (US Postal Service), and it is even enshrined in their constitution. There have been efforts to get rid of USPS, but that would call for amending of the US constitution. Either way, USPS is quit very efficient, and it offers affordable means to send parcels to US and all over the globe. Back to our top: I don't think Posta can be saved by digitization or whatever scanning of mails and posting on the cloud is called. It is not their core business. There core business should be delivery of letters and parcels to clients wherever they are. And they are not even good at this. The concept of fixed post office boxes where one has to go to pick their letters is dated and not sustainable. If they could add value to their services, and earn more revenue by doing actual delivery to wherever the customer is. But sadly, in Kenya, we do not have a well defined addressing system. Giving someone direction can be comical if not futile at times. I know the City Council started such a project in CBD, I don;t know how far than got. But in reality, some locations in Nairobi are bot addressable. For a postal system to work, each house and premise in Kenya needs to have an address. We are a long way from there.
@Philip - thanks for the clarification, its USPS which as noted is also very efficient and the DHL ./Ok3ch On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Okechukwu,
FedEx is not the American Posta. It is a private company. The real American Posta is USPS (US Postal Service), and it is even enshrined in their constitution. There have been efforts to get rid of USPS, but that would call for amending of the US constitution. Either way, USPS is quit very efficient, and it offers affordable means to send parcels to US and all over the globe.
Back to our top:
I don't think Posta can be saved by digitization or whatever scanning of mails and posting on the cloud is called. It is not their core business.
There core business should be delivery of letters and parcels to clients wherever they are. And they are not even good at this. The concept of fixed post office boxes where one has to go to pick their letters is dated and not sustainable. If they could add value to their services, and earn more revenue by doing actual delivery to wherever the customer is.
But sadly, in Kenya, we do not have a well defined addressing system. Giving someone direction can be comical if not futile at times.
I know the City Council started such a project in CBD, I don;t know how far than got. But in reality, some locations in Nairobi are bot addressable. For a postal system to work, each house and premise in Kenya needs to have an address. We are a long way from there.
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@ Okech i totally agree with you on this green proposal... Its retarded! What i think posta should do is to provide a platform where businesses can plugin and use their delivery services..same way UPS, Royal mail etc do. I think there is still lots of money to be made judging by the number of courier providers we have in ke. On 6/13/12, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
This is all complete rubbish - if you need anything digitized, send it via email. If Posta cant reinvent itself as the likes of DHL (This is German Posta btw, still owned by the Government) and FEDEX (American Posta), then let it die a natural death. Dont try justifying some digitized format which we all know is email!
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:03 AM, <calvinebarongo@gmail.com> wrote:
Why are the following companies still relevant and profitable DHL, FEDEX, TNT etc I think there is a lot they are doing that posta aint.
There is a time I sent a package to Cape Town using tnt and they gave me a tracking number, I could log online and see the status and location of my package
There is a lot to be done in the mail digitization
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To answer your second part of the question is you will receive an alert as soon as new mail arrives. This alert can be to your email address or through SMS. Example for kenya you log into posta website and login to view your mails. If required you can print it. Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2012, at 21:08, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
it still doesnt , i want you to get to the point where the companies do the actual scanning of the documents for onward transmission if I get you correctly.... many of us are anxiously waiting to roast you alive if thats the model... Also, how do I recieve this? in a flash drive? via email? in a CD? etc etc.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Probably I had not made clear earlier, Digital mail is different from email. Digital mail works with your street address or PO box in our case. We all are aware every B2C company sends postal mails to consumers either in the format of statement, bills etc through posta.
Digital mail will come in between the mailers/company and posta.
As I mentioned it has to be customized to work here and posta will play an important role. Posta already has database of users and it has to provide a digital space for each box which can be locally hosted or in the cloud provided all security and NDA are met.
Now the question will be how the mails get digital format, this will be done by mailers who will be in between posta and companies who send mails.
It will be free for the person who receives mail but will be charged to the sender a minimal fee which will be much less than costs involved in sending physical mail.
I hope this makes sense now.
On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:10, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
You open my postal mail, scan it and deliver it?? I am also missing something here, like Collins.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Digital mail delivers your postal mail online into a secure mailbox.
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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Internet penetration is just 10% in the country so having email addresses for every body would be hard. Postal mails has to continue but with an added digital version of the same. Each person can have a box even if he/she has the same physical address. The way I understand all mails have to be picked manually from the PO box and I am not sure how many locations are in the country to pick mails.. Any idea Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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your statement is an oxymoron, on one hand there is not enough internet penertation in the country, on the other not enough postal offices. so just so i understand you, how does this work, i get an electric bill from KPLC, what format is it in initially? what role does the post office play? On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Internet penetration is just 10% in the country so having email addresses for every body would be hard. Postal mails has to continue but with an added digital version of the same. Each person can have a box even if he/she has the same physical address.
The way I understand all mails have to be picked manually from the PO box and I am not sure how many locations are in the country to pick mails.. Any idea
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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You will receive in digital format. You can contact me for more info. On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:32, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
your statement is an oxymoron, on one hand there is not enough internet penertation in the country, on the other not enough postal offices. so just so i understand you, how does this work, i get an electric bill from KPLC, what format is it in initially? what role does the post office play?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Internet penetration is just 10% in the country so having email addresses for every body would be hard. Postal mails has to continue but with an added digital version of the same. Each person can have a box even if he/she has the same physical address.
The way I understand all mails have to be picked manually from the PO box and I am not sure how many locations are in the country to pick mails.. Any idea
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote: I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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My bank already does this without involving Posta! ./Ok3ch On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
You will receive in digital format. You can contact me for more info.
On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:32, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
your statement is an oxymoron, on one hand there is not enough internet penertation in the country, on the other not enough postal offices. so just so i understand you, how does this work, i get an electric bill from KPLC, what format is it in initially? what role does the post office play?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Internet penetration is just 10% in the country so having email addresses for every body would be hard. Postal mails has to continue but with an added digital version of the same. Each person can have a box even if he/she has the same physical address.
The way I understand all mails have to be picked manually from the PO box and I am not sure how many locations are in the country to pick mails.. Any idea
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 20:22, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes a digital version of the bill can be created and sent to your digital mail box similar to PO box. This works with street address and in our case can be a PO box number.
You will receive all your mails in digital format and as well physical mail. You an decide when you want to go paperless and instruct accordingly the mailer to stop sending physical mails.
We can even program an email alert or sms once a mail is recd. Good part is we can make your mail available on any device with a web browser capability even on tablets and mobile devices.
A bit of customization is required but can be worked on..
What do you have to say about this?
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 17:19, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
so, just so I get it, Kenya power PRINTS a bill, sends it to you via posta, then Posta scans the bill and you have a "green" bill?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the solution can work well in collaboration with POSTA kenya.
We just need to get right partners and good infrastructure support across the country. I have seen vast improvement in Internet bandwidth in Kenya recently.
I would like to hear views/opinion from all expert skunks in the forum.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 15:44, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
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On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
I must be missing something here...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
why not just email me the bill? which would not be too different from what is currently the case...
+1
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com> wrote:
Now postal mails can be received centrally and stored securely in digital format.
You can opt for receiving all your important mail, such as bills, statements, insurance documents, warranties, stock and brokerage disclosures, annual reports etc in digital format and stored in one location centrally for free.
This can save paper, printing and postage costs.. Check link below for more information.
http://www.docufacts.co.ke/872/postal-mails-can-be-recieved-centrally-and-st...
I think Moses got into trouble when he tried to sell this as "becoming green". For bills, direct e-billing is probably more straightforward. But there are companies (such as Outbox [1]) that are attempting to put a twist on physical mail: <http://pandodaily.com/2012/05/28/the-physical-mail-revolution-comes-knocking-introducing-outbox/>. This may work for those who don't mind a third party opening their mail. Swiss Post only scan the sealed envelope, and send you an e-mail notification: <http://www.post.ch/en/post-startseite/post-swisspostbox/post-swisspostbox-anwendungsbeispiele.htm>. A bit related is Aereo, who want you (if you live in New York City) to outsource the management of your TV antenna (plus a bit more) to them. [1] <http://www.outboxmail.com/> [2] <https://aereo.com/home> Joseph.
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