Is it time for change?

As Riyaz, one of skunksworks KE founders has, pointed out on another thread. I share his quotes below : " As someone commented earlier - skunkworks really has to move to more media than the mailing list - web based forums, DIGG type stuff. This is all opportunities for the developers/techies on the list - show us what you can do ;) If you build it, we will come " Has the time come to move to a newer media platform? If this is what is takes to move skunkworks to a new level, what can we do to achieve this? Pls share your thoughts Rgds.

Software like stackoverflow.com would be a natural progression for skunkworks. Something that is a mix between forums and a wiki On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
As Riyaz, one of skunksworks KE founders has, pointed out on another thread. I share his quotes below :
" As someone commented earlier - skunkworks really has to move to more media than the mailing list - web based forums, DIGG type stuff. This is all opportunities for the developers/techies on the list - show us what you can do ;) If you build it, we will come "
Has the time come to move to a newer media platform? If this is what is takes to move skunkworks to a new level, what can we do to achieve this?
Pls share your thoughts
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Have suggested a forum style look like phpBB and quoted an example of this in http://forums.debian.net/ . Have also looked at stack overflow and that seems to be a viable option to get a similar site up and running for KE skunkworld. Have a great day! Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Software like stackoverflow.com would be a natural progression for skunkworks. Something that is a mix between forums and a wiki
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
As Riyaz, one of skunksworks KE founders has, pointed out on another thread. I share his quotes below :
" As someone commented earlier - skunkworks really has to move to more media than the mailing list - web based forums, DIGG type stuff. This is all opportunities for the developers/techies on the list - show us what you can do ;) If you build it, we will come "
Has the time come to move to a newer media platform? If this is what is takes to move skunkworks to a new level, what can we do to achieve this?
Pls share your thoughts
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I'd go with stackoverflow any day .. it is self moderated. On 27 July 2010 08:59, Amarjit Labhuram <amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com> wrote:
Have suggested a forum style look like phpBB and quoted an example of this in http://forums.debian.net/ . Have also looked at stack overflow and that seems to be a viable option to get a similar site up and running for KE skunkworld.
Have a great day!
Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Software like stackoverflow.com would be a natural progression for skunkworks. Something that is a mix between forums and a wiki
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
As Riyaz, one of skunksworks KE founders has, pointed out on another thread. I share his quotes below :
" As someone commented earlier - skunkworks really has to move to more media than the mailing list - web based forums, DIGG type stuff. This is all opportunities for the developers/techies on the list - show us what you can do ;) If you build it, we will come "
Has the time come to move to a newer media platform? If this is what is takes to move skunkworks to a new level, what can we do to achieve this?
Pls share your thoughts
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what happened to http://my.co.ke/phpbb/ On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd go with stackoverflow any day .. it is self moderated.
On 27 July 2010 08:59, Amarjit Labhuram <amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com>wrote:
Have suggested a forum style look like phpBB and quoted an example of this in http://forums.debian.net/ . Have also looked at stack overflow and that seems to be a viable option to get a similar site up and running for KE skunkworld.
Have a great day!
Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Software like stackoverflow.com would be a natural progression for skunkworks. Something that is a mix between forums and a wiki
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
As Riyaz, one of skunksworks KE founders has, pointed out on another thread. I share his quotes below :
" As someone commented earlier - skunkworks really has to move to more media than the mailing list - web based forums, DIGG type stuff. This is all opportunities for the developers/techies on the list - show us what you can do ;) If you build it, we will come "
Has the time come to move to a newer media platform? If this is what is takes to move skunkworks to a new level, what can we do to achieve this?
Pls share your thoughts
Rgds. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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@Paul...aha! just as I was sayin...I actually did not know of this but this is what I was talking about. Have a great day! Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com>wrote:
what happened to http://my.co.ke/phpbb/
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd go with stackoverflow any day .. it is self moderated.
On 27 July 2010 08:59, Amarjit Labhuram <amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com>wrote:
Have suggested a forum style look like phpBB and quoted an example of this in http://forums.debian.net/ . Have also looked at stack overflow and that seems to be a viable option to get a similar site up and running for KE skunkworld.
Have a great day!
Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Software like stackoverflow.com would be a natural progression for skunkworks. Something that is a mix between forums and a wiki
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
As Riyaz, one of skunksworks KE founders has, pointed out on another thread. I share his quotes below :
" As someone commented earlier - skunkworks really has to move to more media than the mailing list - web based forums, DIGG type stuff. This is all opportunities for the developers/techies on the list - show us what you can do ;) If you build it, we will come "
Has the time come to move to a newer media platform? If this is what is takes to move skunkworks to a new level, what can we do to achieve this?
Pls share your thoughts
Rgds. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Best Regards, Paul Njoroge.
Skype: njorogepaul
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We need a site re-design on http://my.co.ke/phpbb/ but it seems something we should work on. @Phares and others : Should we start thinking of closing the mail lists over time and get everyone to signup to the http://my.co.ke/phpbb/. Maybe we have a 3 month grace period to allow everyone to move. As long as the mailing list is operational, we are going to be stuck and not moving with the times. We know the disadvantages, what would be the advantages to keep a mailing list? Me thots. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com> wrote:
what happened to http://my.co.ke/phpbb/

So here are the advantages of moving away from a mailing list : 1) NO more need for OFF Topics! There can be/is a seperate category on the site 2) NO more ADVERT Topics! There can be/is a seperate category on the site, so Alvin can do his thing. ( Alvin, poolay.. :-) ) 3) We can attach images? 4) Better online organization of subjects/categories 5) No more need for mail clients etc 6) Better Administration of content? Me thots.

Also people won't have to keep asking the same questions over and over again eg unlocking modems. Over time a good knowledge base on various topics can be built On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
So here are the advantages of moving away from a mailing list :
1) NO more need for OFF Topics! There can be/is a seperate category on the site
2) NO more ADVERT Topics! There can be/is a seperate category on the site, so Alvin can do his thing. ( Alvin, poolay.. :-) )
3) We can attach images?
4) Better online organization of subjects/categories
5) No more need for mail clients etc
6) Better Administration of content?
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I remember this proposal about 1 or 2 years ago... But from what the moderators said; guys refused to move (very few posted or read anything from the weblog) - preferring the quick email posts. I dont know how you can make guys move.... except by mabbe spamming the mail list with links to the new weblog until everyone finally clicks out of curiosity. Human psychology prefers what they are used to; Inertia, resistance of change - probably why Facebook is still more popular than the Buzz.

@Ndungu, thnks I there is a choice to be made. Everyone on this list are pretty smart and intelligent to not understand that we simply have to move forward and with solutions. There is an existing platform and is part of this community so makes the move easier. The rest of the private sector is busy sucking in what it can however their objectives make it impossible to have a community. We have to move forward, gentlemen and ladies. We can continue and face extinction or we find the answers and make the move. Rgds. Me thots

This is really a good idea. The main advantages will be that it will be much easier to follow specific topics and not have to download all the emails when in EDGE areas. And not being the victim of email harvesters. I see no need of any redesign of the forum. It is the content and ease of use that is important. But for security reasons an upgrade to the latest version? It is IMHO usually a very good idea to keep the structure very simple initially like: Main, Off-Topic, Buying, Selling and add new categories after a while instead when admins see how it is being used. Moderation with clear rules usually makes a better forum. Otherwise it may end up like http://mashada.com/forums/ which is perfectly fine for that type of forum but for a serious more or less business oriented one ... no. On 07/27/2010 01:05 PM, aki wrote:
So here are the advantages of moving away from a mailing list :
1) NO more need for OFF Topics! There can be/is a seperate category on the site
2) NO more ADVERT Topics! There can be/is a seperate category on the site, so Alvin can do his thing. ( Alvin, poolay.. :-) )
3) We can attach images?
4) Better online organization of subjects/categories
5) No more need for mail clients etc
6) Better Administration of content?
Me thots.

i think we are all missing the point here. Mailing lists are an intrusive technology, they intrude into your space and demand for your attention. All the others are not, they require some initiative to have you visit the site and actually participate. sorry to be a pessimist but you will probably lose some of the listeners who chip in once in a while but are mostly listenerds. these are a very important constituent of this, say for instance the MJs and Kai Wulffs, i doubt theyll have the time / energy to register, login and sign on to check the daily dose of rantings. Id put my money on integrating skunkworks onto a forum and vice versa, and having the option of subscribe to a certain category. (check mail2forum to see what i mean. The immediate progression i would suggest is to work on moderating, inevitably, the quality of content in the group will be directly related to how much moderating is done, cause whether we like it or not, the more the number of persons on the list, the more the chances of "stray bullets" Crossroads is what we are at. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:36 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:
This is really a good idea. The main advantages will be that it will be much easier to follow specific topics and not have to download all the emails when in EDGE areas. And not being the victim of email harvesters.
I see no need of any redesign of the forum. It is the content and ease of use that is important. But for security reasons an upgrade to the latest version?
It is IMHO usually a very good idea to keep the structure very simple initially like: Main, Off-Topic, Buying, Selling and add new categories after a while instead when admins see how it is being used.
Moderation with clear rules usually makes a better forum. Otherwise it may end up like http://mashada.com/forums/ which is perfectly fine for that type of forum but for a serious more or less business oriented one ... no.
On 07/27/2010 01:05 PM, aki wrote:
So here are the advantages of moving away from a mailing list :
1) NO more need for OFF Topics! There can be/is a seperate category on the site
2) NO more ADVERT Topics! There can be/is a seperate category on the site, so Alvin can do his thing. ( Alvin, poolay.. :-) )
3) We can attach images?
4) Better online organization of subjects/categories
5) No more need for mail clients etc
6) Better Administration of content?
Me thots.
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@Collins, Mr MJ and Mr Kai do not generate anything meanigful on this list thus having a whole list not change because of them makes no sense. For those who are followers of the community posts, we are glad they can follow the community posts from the website. Rgds On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:47 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
All the others are not, they require some initiative to have you visit the site and actually participate. sorry to be a pessimist but you will probably lose some of the listeners who chip in once in a while but are mostly listenerds. these are a very important constituent of this, say for instance the MJs and Kai Wulffs, i doubt theyll have the time / energy to register, login and sign on to check the daily dose of rantings.

Ok, is it possible to choose a new color scheme for " http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ?? I vote orange...

Thank you Ndungu, Jonas, Rad, Brainiac for your comments. That makes it 5 votes, myself included? Rgds. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:02 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...

I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum? I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list. On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...

trust me @jonas, its not as straightforward. Shutting off the mailing list is not a very clever idea, but then again, who said shock therapy does not work. Buck to my argument @aki on the listeners: i have noticed for instance that the moment i have any ranting about KDN esp on the poor quality of their services, i get almost instant responses from the powers that be when i post this to the mailing list, this is because someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone who forwards it to someone untill something gets done. No amount of stackpoverflow type thing can handle this. and while were at it, i did this last year and got lots of mixed responses, i redid it about a month ago and proposed it to some guys as the possible future of skunkworks. Id love to hear your comments: http://www.tandaa.net/category/technology/skunkworks-technology-list/ On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:
I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum?
I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list.
On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
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My view on this. Anyone thought of incorporating the forum to a wiki? watchman On 7/27/10 2:55 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
trust me @jonas, its not as straightforward. Shutting off the mailing list is not a very clever idea, but then again, who said shock therapy does not work.
Buck to my argument @aki on the listeners: i have noticed for instance that the moment i have any ranting about KDN esp on the poor quality of their services, i get almost instant responses from the powers that be when i post this to the mailing list, this is because someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone who forwards it to someone untill something gets done. No amount of stackpoverflow type thing can handle this.
and while were at it, i did this last year and got lots of mixed responses, i redid it about a month ago and proposed it to some guys as the possible future of skunkworks. Id love to hear your comments:
http://www.tandaa.net/category/technology/skunkworks-technology-list/
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com <mailto:jonas@lamusoftware.com>> wrote:
I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum?
I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list.
On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
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@watchman check the link i posted... its WP. (hence my knowledge of when wp was released :-) ) On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:00 AM, [watchman] <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
My view on this.
Anyone thought of incorporating the forum to a wiki?
watchman
On 7/27/10 2:55 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
trust me @jonas, its not as straightforward. Shutting off the mailing list is not a very clever idea, but then again, who said shock therapy does not work.
Buck to my argument @aki on the listeners: i have noticed for instance that the moment i have any ranting about KDN esp on the poor quality of their services, i get almost instant responses from the powers that be when i post this to the mailing list, this is because someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone who forwards it to someone untill something gets done. No amount of stackpoverflow type thing can handle this.
and while were at it, i did this last year and got lots of mixed responses, i redid it about a month ago and proposed it to some guys as the possible future of skunkworks. Id love to hear your comments:
http://www.tandaa.net/category/technology/skunkworks-technology-list/
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:
I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum?
I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list.
On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing listSkunkworks@lists.my.co.kehttp://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheethttp://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Ruleshttp://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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here is how this discussion looks like in a WP integration: http://www.tandaa.net/2010/07/is-it-time-for-change/ On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:02 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
@watchman check the link i posted... its WP. (hence my knowledge of when wp was released :-) )
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:00 AM, [watchman] <skunkingrahim@gmail.com>wrote:
My view on this.
Anyone thought of incorporating the forum to a wiki?
watchman
On 7/27/10 2:55 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
trust me @jonas, its not as straightforward. Shutting off the mailing list is not a very clever idea, but then again, who said shock therapy does not work.
Buck to my argument @aki on the listeners: i have noticed for instance that the moment i have any ranting about KDN esp on the poor quality of their services, i get almost instant responses from the powers that be when i post this to the mailing list, this is because someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone who forwards it to someone untill something gets done. No amount of stackpoverflow type thing can handle this.
and while were at it, i did this last year and got lots of mixed responses, i redid it about a month ago and proposed it to some guys as the possible future of skunkworks. Id love to hear your comments:
http://www.tandaa.net/category/technology/skunkworks-technology-list/
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:
I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum?
I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list.
On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Posted on 100% recycled electrons
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing listSkunkworks@lists.my.co.kehttp://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheethttp://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Ruleshttp://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Posted on 100% recycled electrons
-- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

@Areba. Brilliant!! does it work with our mails or do we post on the site? i see it's currently updating itself. Or are you updating it? Considering it's wordpress, can we host the thread's we've been talking about on the site? is there a cost implication to this site? What is our bandwidth capacity? and the space allocated to the site? hehe pole about the bombardment, just looking at all these things. watchman On 7/27/10 3:02 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
@watchman check the link i posted... its WP. (hence my knowledge of when wp was released :-) )
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:00 AM, [watchman] <skunkingrahim@gmail.com <mailto:skunkingrahim@gmail.com>> wrote:
My view on this.
Anyone thought of incorporating the forum to a wiki?
watchman
On 7/27/10 2:55 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
trust me @jonas, its not as straightforward. Shutting off the mailing list is not a very clever idea, but then again, who said shock therapy does not work.
Buck to my argument @aki on the listeners: i have noticed for instance that the moment i have any ranting about KDN esp on the poor quality of their services, i get almost instant responses from the powers that be when i post this to the mailing list, this is because someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone who forwards it to someone untill something gets done. No amount of stackpoverflow type thing can handle this.
and while were at it, i did this last year and got lots of mixed responses, i redid it about a month ago and proposed it to some guys as the possible future of skunkworks. Id love to hear your comments:
http://www.tandaa.net/category/technology/skunkworks-technology-list/
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com <mailto:jonas@lamusoftware.com>> wrote:
I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum?
I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list.
On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1fbjAwOUE&hl=en> ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Posted on 100% recycled electrons
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1fbjAwOUE&hl=en> ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> ------------ Other services @http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1fbjAwOUE&hl=en> ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Posted on 100% recycled electrons
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

no, its just wp and email updating using postie plus a bit of tweaking here and there. All we need is space on skunkserver, mysql and php (WP requirements) and integration. Ill offer my time to set it up if agreed upon and once its set, haina mambo ingine. I set this up to demonstrate that its possible to do archives of lists that actually are good looking and searchable. And to take care of aki's concerns about OT emails, aither moderation or several lists, e.g. energy@skunkworks, IT@skunkworks ...e.t.c. and all posting to the various categories on the list. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:09 AM, [watchman] <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
@Areba.
Brilliant!! does it work with our mails or do we post on the site? i see it's currently updating itself. Or are you updating it?
Considering it's wordpress, can we host the thread's we've been talking about on the site? is there a cost implication to this site? What is our bandwidth capacity? and the space allocated to the site?
hehe pole about the bombardment, just looking at all these things.
watchman
On 7/27/10 3:02 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
@watchman check the link i posted... its WP. (hence my knowledge of when wp was released :-) )
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:00 AM, [watchman] <skunkingrahim@gmail.com>wrote:
My view on this.
Anyone thought of incorporating the forum to a wiki?
watchman
On 7/27/10 2:55 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
trust me @jonas, its not as straightforward. Shutting off the mailing list is not a very clever idea, but then again, who said shock therapy does not work.
Buck to my argument @aki on the listeners: i have noticed for instance that the moment i have any ranting about KDN esp on the poor quality of their services, i get almost instant responses from the powers that be when i post this to the mailing list, this is because someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone who forwards it to someone untill something gets done. No amount of stackpoverflow type thing can handle this.
and while were at it, i did this last year and got lots of mixed responses, i redid it about a month ago and proposed it to some guys as the possible future of skunkworks. Id love to hear your comments:
http://www.tandaa.net/category/technology/skunkworks-technology-list/
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:
I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum?
I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list.
On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Posted on 100% recycled electrons
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing listSkunkworks@lists.my.co.kehttp://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheethttp://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Ruleshttp://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Posted on 100% recycled electrons
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing listSkunkworks@lists.my.co.kehttp://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheethttp://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Ruleshttp://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Gentlemen, thank you so much for your inputs. I'm glad we are going to make this community stronger and not a sinking ship. I respect your views and again appreciate the comments. :-) I think it is time that we get inputs from @Josiah, @Phares as to the way forward. You all have to help us build a stronger and diverse Skunkworks KE. Let us look forward to solutions. With Best Rgds.

More Questions @Areba. Having all these posts being public was an issue a short while back. You seem to have managed to integrate the mails into wordpress. It's a great idea! Can we also work on it so that only post members can view posts? This can go via the wp Admin section and create security for post members? watchman On 7/27/10 3:02 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
@watchman check the link i posted... its WP. (hence my knowledge of when wp was released :-) )
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:00 AM, [watchman] <skunkingrahim@gmail.com <mailto:skunkingrahim@gmail.com>> wrote:
My view on this.
Anyone thought of incorporating the forum to a wiki?
watchman
On 7/27/10 2:55 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
trust me @jonas, its not as straightforward. Shutting off the mailing list is not a very clever idea, but then again, who said shock therapy does not work.
Buck to my argument @aki on the listeners: i have noticed for instance that the moment i have any ranting about KDN esp on the poor quality of their services, i get almost instant responses from the powers that be when i post this to the mailing list, this is because someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone who forwards it to someone untill something gets done. No amount of stackpoverflow type thing can handle this.
and while were at it, i did this last year and got lots of mixed responses, i redid it about a month ago and proposed it to some guys as the possible future of skunkworks. Id love to hear your comments:
http://www.tandaa.net/category/technology/skunkworks-technology-list/
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com <mailto:jonas@lamusoftware.com>> wrote:
I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum?
I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list.
On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1fbjAwOUE&hl=en> ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Posted on 100% recycled electrons
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1fbjAwOUE&hl=en> ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> ------------ Other services @http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1fbjAwOUE&hl=en> ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Posted on 100% recycled electrons
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:11 AM, [watchman] <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
More Questions
@Areba.
Having all these posts being public was an issue a short while back.
the @public debate was asham cause the archives on list.my.ke are public viewable, masking emails and all that was the deal which if integrated nicely with mailman (pointers to strip unnecessary content from emails in the mailman settings) can make it look pretty decent. especially if a skunk guru can make a killer theme to go with it.
You seem to have managed to integrate the mails into wordpress. It's a great idea!
Can we also work on it so that only post members can view posts? This can go via the wp Admin section and create security for post members?
watchman
On 7/27/10 3:02 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
@watchman check the link i posted... its WP. (hence my knowledge of when wp was released :-) )
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:00 AM, [watchman] <skunkingrahim@gmail.com>wrote:
My view on this.
Anyone thought of incorporating the forum to a wiki?
watchman
On 7/27/10 2:55 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
trust me @jonas, its not as straightforward. Shutting off the mailing list is not a very clever idea, but then again, who said shock therapy does not work.
Buck to my argument @aki on the listeners: i have noticed for instance that the moment i have any ranting about KDN esp on the poor quality of their services, i get almost instant responses from the powers that be when i post this to the mailing list, this is because someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone who forwards it to someone untill something gets done. No amount of stackpoverflow type thing can handle this.
and while were at it, i did this last year and got lots of mixed responses, i redid it about a month ago and proposed it to some guys as the possible future of skunkworks. Id love to hear your comments:
http://www.tandaa.net/category/technology/skunkworks-technology-list/
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:
I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum?
I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list.
On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Posted on 100% recycled electrons
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing listSkunkworks@lists.my.co.kehttp://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheethttp://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Ruleshttp://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Posted on 100% recycled electrons
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing listSkunkworks@lists.my.co.kehttp://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheethttp://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Ruleshttp://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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@bariniac.... R U sure this is WP? doesn't have the WP structure ----- Original Message ----- From: "[ Brainiac ]" <arebacollins@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:02:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Is it time for change? @watchman check the link i posted... its WP. (hence my knowledge of when wp was released :-) ) On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:00 AM, [watchman] < skunkingrahim@gmail.com > wrote: My view on this. Anyone thought of incorporating the forum to a wiki? watchman On 7/27/10 2:55 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote: trust me @jonas, its not as straightforward. Shutting off the mailing list is not a very clever idea, but then again, who said shock therapy does not work. Buck to my argument @aki on the listeners: i have noticed for instance that the moment i have any ranting about KDN esp on the poor quality of their services, i get almost instant responses from the powers that be when i post this to the mailing list, this is because someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone who forwards it to someone untill something gets done. No amount of stackpoverflow type thing can handle this. and while were at it, i did this last year and got lots of mixed responses, i redid it about a month ago and proposed it to some guys as the possible future of skunkworks. Id love to hear your comments: http://www.tandaa.net/category/technology/skunkworks-technology-list/ On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com > wrote: I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum? I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list. On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote: Ok, is it possible to choose a new color scheme for " http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php " ?? I vote orange... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Sorry Ignore my comment, I was looking at the wrong link.... OOOOOOOOppppssyyyy!!! @bariniac.... R U sure this is WP? doesn't have the WP structure ----- Original Message ----- From: "[ Brainiac ]" <arebacollins@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:02:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Is it time for change? @watchman check the link i posted... its WP. (hence my knowledge of when wp was released :-) ) On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:00 AM, [watchman] < skunkingrahim@gmail.com > wrote: My view on this. Anyone thought of incorporating the forum to a wiki? watchman On 7/27/10 2:55 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote: trust me @jonas, its not as straightforward. Shutting off the mailing list is not a very clever idea, but then again, who said shock therapy does not work. Buck to my argument @aki on the listeners: i have noticed for instance that the moment i have any ranting about KDN esp on the poor quality of their services, i get almost instant responses from the powers that be when i post this to the mailing list, this is because someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone who forwards it to someone untill something gets done. No amount of stackpoverflow type thing can handle this. and while were at it, i did this last year and got lots of mixed responses, i redid it about a month ago and proposed it to some guys as the possible future of skunkworks. Id love to hear your comments: http://www.tandaa.net/category/technology/skunkworks-technology-list/ On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com > wrote: I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum? I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list. On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote: Ok, is it possible to choose a new color scheme for " http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php " ?? I vote orange... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

http://meta.osqa.net/ is really good, and the fact that they allow OpenID, Yahoo, Google etc logins makes it even more suitable for the needs of this community. Thanks Mr Saidimu. By the way, with Stackoverflow and its brethren, you can choose to be notified by email when someone comments on a discussion in which you are a participant .. a lot like facebook or twitter. The advantage here is that you no longer have to be subjected to loong boring emails bashing OTs (which are of themselves quite OT) since the only subjects which will catch your attention are those in which you have an active interest in. +10 too, for stackoverflow, osqa and their variants

@steve i sure hope you were not looking at spreadsheets.google.com :-) On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
http://meta.osqa.net/ is really good, and the fact that they allow OpenID, Yahoo, Google etc logins makes it even more suitable for the needs of this community. Thanks Mr Saidimu. By the way, with Stackoverflow and its brethren, you can choose to be notified by email when someone comments on a discussion in which you are a participant .. a lot like facebook or twitter. The advantage here is that you no longer have to be subjected to loong boring emails bashing OTs (which are of themselves quite OT) since the only subjects which will catch your attention are those in which you have an active interest in.
+10 too, for stackoverflow, osqa and their variants
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Gentlemen, Ladies. We are now on Day 2 and hope that we can iron out what system would suit the list best. We are yet to hear from the system administrators and can work as a team and get the web/mailing list project going. I think it would be a good time to start working out specifics such as a timeline towards implementation. Thank you for your highly knowledgeable inputs on this thread. This is why SkunksWorks KE rocks! There is no other resource in this region who can even dream of what KE can do. We lead, others follow. Much later I'd like to suggest "the commiters" idea as we progress so that we can ensure the community stays alive and is commited to becoming a resource within this region. I'll be volunteering for this as am sure you will too. With Rgds. :-)

What happened to the *New Server* initiative? On 28 July 2010 10:05, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Gentlemen, Ladies. We are now on Day 2 and hope that we can iron out what system would suit the list best. We are yet to hear from the system administrators and can work as a team and get the web/mailing list project going. I think it would be a good time to start working out specifics such as a timeline towards implementation.
Thank you for your highly knowledgeable inputs on this thread. This is why SkunksWorks KE rocks! There is no other resource in this region who can even dream of what KE can do. We lead, others follow.
Much later I'd like to suggest "the commiters" idea as we progress so that we can ensure the community stays alive and is commited to becoming a resource within this region. I'll be volunteering for this as am sure you will too.
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Hi @Jared, If you are asking me about the server, I've the same information that you have i.e the server was to be imported. If you want to know more, please ask community reps. If I had such a question, I'd refer it to them. :-) Rgds. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
What happened to the New Server initiative?

should we choose to go the integrated way, im of the opinion that the web service be hosted on a different platform / machine from the list, that way when one goes down, the other is still accessible. back to change we can believe in.... On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:25 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi @Jared, If you are asking me about the server, I've the same information that you have i.e the server was to be imported. If you want to know more, please ask community reps. If I had such a question, I'd refer it to them. :-)
Rgds.
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
What happened to the New Server initiative?
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@Brainiac, I think let us start putting together a team that can do the changes so that system admins can work together with them if that is the issue. I'm not a web person nor advanced to what is needed to get the integration done. I'll try do whatever I can from my side, within reasonable means. Gentlemen, Ladies. Let us build the change team and time scale. 1) Aki : What can I do to help? Rgds. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:49 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
should we choose to go the integrated way, im of the opinion that the web service be hosted on a different platform / machine from the list, that way when one goes down, the other is still accessible.
back to change we can believe in....

If you feel we are rushing into this, then let's give it time but also with the idea that change is important in the long term. Let us commit to make the changes say eg within 3 months, 6 months or a year. Most are web gurus on this list and know the importance of presence. :-) As per @Amarjeet and @Ndungu's idea, maybe we shall move the August Thread Topics to the website as an interim solution? Rgds.

still waiting for feedback from skunkworks cabinet. been loudly silent in this debate. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:59 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
If you feel we are rushing into this, then let's give it time but also with the idea that change is important in the long term. Let us commit to make the changes say eg within 3 months, 6 months or a year. Most are web gurus on this list and know the importance of presence. :-)
As per @Amarjeet and @Ndungu's idea, maybe we shall move the August Thread Topics to the website as an interim solution?
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I think an integrated list + forum is the way to go, but we can vote on this and work on a plan. Regarding the server, hopefully should be delivered in not too long - Phares will give us an update. NB: Mimi si cabinet -- Josiah Mugambi On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:11 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
still waiting for feedback from skunkworks cabinet. been loudly silent in this debate.
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:59 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
If you feel we are rushing into this, then let's give it time but also with the idea that change is important in the long term. Let us commit to make the changes say eg within 3 months, 6 months or a year. Most are web gurus on this list and know the importance of presence. :-)
As per @Amarjeet and @Ndungu's idea, maybe we shall move the August Thread Topics to the website as an interim solution?
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@Josiah, just adding my opinion and its a general one. :-) BTW, this below is a general comment so no one should take it personally. It just offers a comparison and may help with a bit of reality. - A simple benchmark example : Local innovative centre calls programmers to attend for a hack session. Over 40 attend and work over the weekend on various web systems to create super applications. SkunkWorks KE invites help from programmers/web devs to integrate Web mechanism. Confusion prevails whether it needs voting, a plan or even worse no one jumps in. - A simple benchmark example : Local innovative centre calls for the boot camp. Over 400 attend. Last year Skunksworks KE suggested the boot camp, less than 5 people were keen. I'm mystified. I really am. Why do we wish to portray SkunksWorks KE as a failure ? These are my observations but I hope in the long term contributors will understand where SkunksWorks which is truely an open tech community, has to go. Your choice, your direction. Cheers. :-)

On 28 July 2010 10:25, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi @Jared, If you are asking me about the server, I've the same
information that you have i.e the server was to be imported. If you want to know more, please ask community reps. If I had such a question, I'd refer it to them. :-)
@Aki...I wonder why you presume my question was directed to you! Or Perhaps for this post you've assumed the role of an answer machine. Maybe we should come up with a symbol for rhetorical questions other than the question mark. My opinion on this post...just another skunktalk, little will come of it. And why are people so eager to change skunksworks anyway?
Rgds.
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
What happened to the New Server initiative?
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Hey Jared, If you see something you can do, please don't hesitate because you see negativity around you. You are the change agent. That said, am willing to put in hours to develop this website. We already have my.co.ke, we also have that open source QA app why don't we start from there? Can it be uploaded on the server e.g my.co.ke/QA or something and let developers volunteer and run with it. Otherwise I don't think the iinertia will help much. I have never used the application but i'd be willing to learn and help out wherever, just as long as we are not simply static. If the QA App is MVC, then we can first work on functionality then we will decorate it with time. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 July 2010 10:25, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi @Jared, If you are asking me about the server, I've the same
information that you have i.e the server was to be imported. If you want to know more, please ask community reps. If I had such a question, I'd refer it to them. :-)
@Aki...I wonder why you presume my question was directed to you! Or Perhaps for this post you've assumed the role of an answer machine. Maybe we should come up with a symbol for rhetorical questions other than the question mark.
My opinion on this post...just another skunktalk, little will come of it. And why are people so eager to change skunksworks anyway?
Rgds.
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
What happened to the New Server initiative?
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@Frankline, thank you for your valuable volunteer time to this list. Gentlemen, Ladies : We are starting to get a team in place. Project : Moving Skunks to a newer level 1) Frankline : ( Programmer/Developer ) 2) ? 3) ? 4) ? 5) 6) Aki : ( What can I help with, with my very limited Web dev knowledge? Can I buy the drinks? ) If we can have put together a small team, then thrash out what systems need to go into place and how we could proceed, after a vote ofcourse. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. :-) Rgds. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Frankline Chitwa <frank.chitwa@gmail.com> wrote:
That said, am willing to put in hours to develop this website. We already have my.co.ke, we also have that open source QA app why don't we start from there? Can it be uploaded on the server e.g my.co.ke/QA or something and let developers volunteer and run with it. Otherwise I don't think the iinertia will help much.
I have never used the application but i'd be willing to learn and help out wherever, just as long as we are not simply static. If the QA App is MVC, then we can first work on functionality then we will decorate it with time.

@Jared, my answers inline below : On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
@Aki...I wonder why you presume my question was directed to you! Or Perhaps for this post you've assumed the role of an answer machine. Maybe we should come up with a symbol for rhetorical questions other than the question mark.
I do apologise for my comment as it was not necessary on my part. On another topic, may I interest you to do a Content Thread for September? Pls check out the " Let talk about adding adding more skunksworks content " postings.
My opinion on this post...just another skunktalk, little will come of it. And why are people so eager to change skunksworks anyway?
My thots in a nutshell: We have been facing content issues and if we do not correct the problem soon, we face extinction in due course. Eventually the list may become a classifieds. Many listers will become members elsewhere or go solo on the net. There is brain drain which is affecting us in many ways. The other issue is we are limiting our audience to just this mailing list. And given the like or dislikes of topics etc the content will get even more messy. As I wrote earlier, there is much talent on this list beyond techies and Skunksworks could become a key portal in the region with the kind of content we do here, which to many of us is just another day. That itself a big bonus for representing KE on the net. Even better would be to start getting a wider, younger audience that can come on board and light up the list with their fresh minds. Who knows, we could inspire them or they could inspire us. Web masters on this list can let us know how skunks traffic can end up to schools, tech colleges and even Universities. There is much scope over time and better for maintaining continuity for Skunkworks KE. There are other advantages that have been listed in this thread, pls check them out.
Rgds.

What are the implications of shutting down the mailing list? Putting a lot of time into setting up a new site without users makes little sense (and if nothing drastic is done ppl will probably stick to the list considering there already is a forum) If the forum/wp site would support all the features of the mailing list it may be easier to get an acceptance of shutting down the list. So maybe it is better to start at the other end: What features of the mailing list must be supported also by the forum? "someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone
who forwards it to someone untill something gets done" means that one requirement is that all posts should be available via email if required if I interpret it correctly.
It would be nice to be able to post via email as well like http://posterous.com/ Maybe we should just have a vote before talking about colours so that there is an acceptance for it? Democratic, anonymous and good in every way. http://skunkworks.limequery.com/13528/lang-en On 07/27/2010 02:55 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:
trust me @jonas, its not as straightforward. Shutting off the mailing list is not a very clever idea, but then again, who said shock therapy does not work.
Buck to my argument @aki on the listeners: i have noticed for instance that the moment i have any ranting about KDN esp on the poor quality of their services, i get almost instant responses from the powers that be when i post this to the mailing list, this is because someone that recieves this email forwards it to someone who forwards it to someone untill something gets done. No amount of stackpoverflow type thing can handle this.
and while were at it, i did this last year and got lots of mixed responses, i redid it about a month ago and proposed it to some guys as the possible future of skunkworks. Id love to hear your comments:
http://www.tandaa.net/category/technology/skunkworks-technology-list/
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com <mailto:jonas@lamusoftware.com>> wrote:
I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum?
I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list.
On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
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Aki, I often check Skunkworks updates on my mobile phone using Opera mini on my gmail. If the same is accessible to me through the phpBB (http://www.phpbbhacks.com/download/6131) then I'm in. PS: If you moved to the forum 60% of skunk traffic will have moved :-) -----Original Message----- From: Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com> Reply-to: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Is it time for change? Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:39:44 +0300 Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100527 Thunderbird/3.0.5 I think it needs to be a clean cut as being on the mailing list AND having to check the forum will not work. Maybe just shut down the mailing list at a given point and add an auto-reply with a link to the forum? I am almost sure phpBB has a function to email all new posts for those who prefer to just read emails. It would require signing up but so it did to get on the list. On 07/27/2010 02:02 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for "http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
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On 27 July 2010 14:02, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for " http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
A mix of presentable colour schemes would work well. Not too colourful or too dull ( I'm not good when it comes to mixing colours) Alternatively, if we were to have skunk's colour, white and black are its identity. My 2 cents
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There is a stackoverflow-ish implementation here http://github.com/cnprog/CNPROG/tree The reason stackoverflow rocks (and is so successful) is because 1. It is a forum 2. It is also a wiki - you can edit each other's posts (within reason of course) 3. Frequent contributors are rewarded 4. Jokers are penalized 5. You can tag posts 6. You can offer bounties for questions to be answered faster 7. You can comment on forum replies, in addition to replying directly 8. Quality posts float to the top, nonsense sinks to the bottom 9. Administrative rights are earned Can someone with apache configured for python download the bits and try it out? On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On 27 July 2010 14:02, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for " http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
A mix of presentable colour schemes would work well. Not too colourful or too dull ( I'm not good when it comes to mixing colours)
Alternatively, if we were to have skunk's colour, white and black are its identity.
My 2 cents
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http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau
***************************************************** Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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It might also make sense to maintain the mailing list option in as much as I totally support the idea of developing this to a blog. Many are times when you follow something because it appeared on your email and probably one of the main reasons why skunkworks has been very successful is that sense of belonging. The fact that you feel you are part of the going concerns and you contribution matters however "skunty" your info could be. It is an psychological factor that builds over time, my suggestion would be we maintain the mailing list with a connection to the blogs/forums. We get summaries of threads and if one wants to contribute, you login to the facility and give your thought process. The knowledge is passed on and one can get access to it in the future through search engines. More so get the exiting email alerts that keep us on our toes on whats happening. This will allow for a seamless and a more planned transition. I also feel for guys who are looking for solutions and stuff will also have a chance on a short term basis. they don't have to start a fora to source for an item. All these factors if well thought we can create a very powerful resource that will be of benefit to all members. My 2 cent. regards Oliver On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a stackoverflow-ish implementation here http://github.com/cnprog/CNPROG/tree
The reason stackoverflow rocks (and is so successful) is because
1. It is a forum 2. It is also a wiki - you can edit each other's posts (within reason of course) 3. Frequent contributors are rewarded 4. Jokers are penalized 5. You can tag posts 6. You can offer bounties for questions to be answered faster 7. You can comment on forum replies, in addition to replying directly 8. Quality posts float to the top, nonsense sinks to the bottom 9. Administrative rights are earned
Can someone with apache configured for python download the bits and try it out?
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com
wrote:
On 27 July 2010 14:02, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for " http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
A mix of presentable colour schemes would work well. Not too colourful or too dull ( I'm not good when it comes to mixing colours)
Alternatively, if we were to have skunk's colour, white and black are its identity.
My 2 cents
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-- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau
***************************************************** Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke
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@Mark, my view. And also let us keep in mind that while we want a super system, this is a community. Those who are maintaining the mailers/site do it at their personal time without any paymets etc. Let us also consider them and try to make the system as easy as possible. If we over complicate things, we have failed in our objectives and let this community's best chance at really moving ahead die. We have to have a simpler transition. The bells and whistles can happen over time. Me thots. :-)

@Aki in agreement with your thoughts. watchman On 7/27/10 5:04 PM, aki wrote:
@Mark, my view. And also let us keep in mind that while we want a super system, this is a community. Those who are maintaining the mailers/site do it at their personal time without any paymets etc. Let us also consider them and try to make the system as easy as possible.
If we over complicate things, we have failed in our objectives and let this community's best chance at really moving ahead die.
We have to have a simpler transition. The bells and whistles can happen over time.
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Stage 2 : Open dialogue with System Admins of Skunkworks KE You may followed the thread, kindly advice us on what needs to happen to maintain mailing list via http://my.co.ke/phpbb/ ? Looking forward to your response. Rgds.

I stand to be corrected but phpBB seems non modular. That means adding any more features in future may prove very difficult. You may need to do custom stuff on the database and the code for you to add features. Multiple features may mean too many problems. Wordpress, drupal or joomla have migration tools to help you migrate your website to them from phpBB, so you may have some reprieve in migration. Drupal has http://drupal.org/project/phpbb2drupal, let joomla and wordpress users shed more light on the issue. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:11 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Stage 2 : Open dialogue with System Admins of Skunkworks KE
You may followed the thread, kindly advice us on what needs to happen to maintain mailing list via http://my.co.ke/phpbb/ ?
Looking forward to your response.
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Rad! mentioned CNProg (a stackoverflow clone)... OSQA (Open Source Q&A) started by building on CNProg and looks to have matured quite well. The feature list is just what the doctor ordered: http://www.osqa.net/learn-more/ . Here's what some OSQA-powered sites look like: http://www.osqa.net/gallery/ A Q&A system isn't a swiss army knife, so a mailing-list is still needed. The exact roles of each system (mailing-list and Q&A system) can only be sorted with time and experience using both side-by-side. Federated identity management is a must-have feature in whatever skunks-ke will pick, specifically the ability to log-in using OpenID and/or delegate authority with OAuth. Features like OpenID are great for consolidating your identity in "one place" and using it across supported services (no need for yet another set of passwords to remember). Plus you can leverage your skunks-ke contributions as part of your online brand/reputation, something that might come in quite handy for some. Most online email providers also act as OpenID providers: Yahoo, GMail etc allow you to use your email address as an OpenID. Wordpress is also an OpenID provider, possibly some other blogging systems as well. +10 for a StackOverflow/CNProg/OSQA-style system. Saidi On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Frankline Chitwa <frank.chitwa@gmail.com>wrote:
I stand to be corrected but phpBB seems non modular. That means adding any more features in future may prove very difficult. You may need to do custom stuff on the database and the code for you to add features. Multiple features may mean too many problems.
Wordpress, drupal or joomla have migration tools to help you migrate your website to them from phpBB, so you may have some reprieve in migration.
Drupal has http://drupal.org/project/phpbb2drupal, let joomla and wordpress users shed more light on the issue.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:11 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Stage 2 : Open dialogue with System Admins of Skunkworks KE
You may followed the thread, kindly advice us on what needs to happen to maintain mailing list via http://my.co.ke/phpbb/ ?
Looking forward to your response.
Rgds. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- www.golavish.com - The travel and leisure www.raccuddasys.com - code Development issues
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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how about just integrating Pligg and mailman to achieve the whole comments thinggy, sub comments and voting to raise the prominence of articles. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:15 PM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Rad! mentioned CNProg (a stackoverflow clone)... OSQA (Open Source Q&A) started by building on CNProg and looks to have matured quite well. The feature list is just what the doctor ordered: http://www.osqa.net/learn-more/ . Here's what some OSQA-powered sites look like: http://www.osqa.net/gallery/
A Q&A system isn't a swiss army knife, so a mailing-list is still needed. The exact roles of each system (mailing-list and Q&A system) can only be sorted with time and experience using both side-by-side.
Federated identity management is a must-have feature in whatever skunks-ke will pick, specifically the ability to log-in using OpenID and/or delegate authority with OAuth. Features like OpenID are great for consolidating your identity in "one place" and using it across supported services (no need for yet another set of passwords to remember). Plus you can leverage your skunks-ke contributions as part of your online brand/reputation, something that might come in quite handy for some. Most online email providers also act as OpenID providers: Yahoo, GMail etc allow you to use your email address as an OpenID. Wordpress is also an OpenID provider, possibly some other blogging systems as well.
+10 for a StackOverflow/CNProg/OSQA-style system.
Saidi
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Frankline Chitwa <frank.chitwa@gmail.com>wrote:
I stand to be corrected but phpBB seems non modular. That means adding any more features in future may prove very difficult. You may need to do custom stuff on the database and the code for you to add features. Multiple features may mean too many problems.
Wordpress, drupal or joomla have migration tools to help you migrate your website to them from phpBB, so you may have some reprieve in migration.
Drupal has http://drupal.org/project/phpbb2drupal, let joomla and wordpress users shed more light on the issue.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:11 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Stage 2 : Open dialogue with System Admins of Skunkworks KE
You may followed the thread, kindly advice us on what needs to happen to maintain mailing list via http://my.co.ke/phpbb/ ?
Looking forward to your response.
Rgds. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- www.golavish.com - The travel and leisure www.raccuddasys.com - code Development issues
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http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Unfortunately, http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2008/09/what-was-stack-overflow-built-with/, stackoverflow is not opensource. However, their tag system is a very good way of getting to topics. The tandaa configuration is very good. That could be a good way to go if it could have the following: 1. Information is not paginated. Any info out of the first page must be searched. If info was paginated, you can e.g move through all the 'july info' through pages. 2. Alternatively/additionally, add tags to enable information search via topic. The info can then be paginated under that tag. I'm sure all these can be added on Wordpress, making this a very good system. We can bubble up the more useful info via tag-clouds. If this is not possible in wordpress, we can use drupal. Drupal has all the tagging and pagination features with its basic install. Since the website is already running with both mailing system and forum, I assume that both can run on the server without overloading traffic/bandwidth, e.t.c. So, wordpress or drupal's mailing lists can be added via modules. This will be better than the current setup of separate mailing list and website. After this, we advise people to move to the website or we migrate people's accounts manually to the website and shut down the mailing list system (the website will be handling mailing lists). So when people move to the website they will still get mail as usual. From then onwards, it won't matter whether someone is getting info via mail or accessing the website. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
It might also make sense to maintain the mailing list option in as much as I totally support the idea of developing this to a blog. Many are times when you follow something because it appeared on your email and probably one of the main reasons why skunkworks has been very successful is that sense of belonging. The fact that you feel you are part of the going concerns and you contribution matters however "skunty" your info could be.
It is an psychological factor that builds over time, my suggestion would be we maintain the mailing list with a connection to the blogs/forums. We get summaries of threads and if one wants to contribute, you login to the facility and give your thought process. The knowledge is passed on and one can get access to it in the future through search engines. More so get the exiting email alerts that keep us on our toes on whats happening.
This will allow for a seamless and a more planned transition. I also feel for guys who are looking for solutions and stuff will also have a chance on a short term basis. they don't have to start a fora to source for an item. All these factors if well thought we can create a very powerful resource that will be of benefit to all members.
My 2 cent.
regards Oliver
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a stackoverflow-ish implementation here http://github.com/cnprog/CNPROG/tree
The reason stackoverflow rocks (and is so successful) is because
1. It is a forum 2. It is also a wiki - you can edit each other's posts (within reason of course) 3. Frequent contributors are rewarded 4. Jokers are penalized 5. You can tag posts 6. You can offer bounties for questions to be answered faster 7. You can comment on forum replies, in addition to replying directly 8. Quality posts float to the top, nonsense sinks to the bottom 9. Administrative rights are earned
Can someone with apache configured for python download the bits and try it out?
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau < solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On 27 July 2010 14:02, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok,
is it possible to choose a new color scheme for " http://my.co.ke/phpbb/index.php" ??
I vote orange...
A mix of presentable colour schemes would work well. Not too colourful or too dull ( I'm not good when it comes to mixing colours)
Alternatively, if we were to have skunk's colour, white and black are its identity.
My 2 cents
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-- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau
***************************************************** Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke
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Gentlemen, should we be successful on our proposed changes, in the long term we are going to shake the internet scene in KE beyond being called techies. There are no techies in this community! There are talented, smart and intelligent people on this list. Infact, skunkworks may end up being one of the biggest internet traffic site in this country when it comes to technology and the rest. We have been shooting ourselves in both feet! Now the lions are out! :-) Rgds.

just out of curiousity @aki, what energy drink did you have in the morning? cause im IN with whatever it is. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:13 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Gentlemen, should we be successful on our proposed changes, in the long term we are going to shake the internet scene in KE beyond being called techies. There are no techies in this community! There are talented, smart and intelligent people on this list. Infact, skunkworks may end up being one of the biggest internet traffic site in this country when it comes to technology and the rest.
We have been shooting ourselves in both feet! Now the lions are out! :-)
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I agree, something "Like" stackoverflow makes sense. However can we develop something? watchman On 7/27/10 11:53 AM, Rad! wrote:
Software like stackoverflow.com <http://stackoverflow.com> would be a natural progression for skunkworks. Something that is a mix between forums and a wiki
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com <mailto:aki275@googlemail.com>> wrote:
As Riyaz, one of skunksworks KE founders has, pointed out on another thread. I share his quotes below :
" As someone commented earlier - skunkworks really has to move to more media than the mailing list - web based forums, DIGG type stuff. This is all opportunities for the developers/techies on the list - show us what you can do ;) If you build it, we will come "
Has the time come to move to a newer media platform? If this is what is takes to move skunkworks to a new level, what can we do to achieve this?
Pls share your thoughts
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We could make use of majibu.com or we can have a copy running dedicated to just this. David. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:57 PM, [watchman] <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree, something "Like" stackoverflow makes sense. However can we develop something?
watchman
On 7/27/10 11:53 AM, Rad! wrote:
Software like stackoverflow.com would be a natural progression for skunkworks. Something that is a mix between forums and a wiki
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
As Riyaz, one of skunksworks KE founders has, pointed out on another thread. I share his quotes below :
" As someone commented earlier - skunkworks really has to move to more media than the mailing list - web based forums, DIGG type stuff. This is all opportunities for the developers/techies on the list - show us what you can do ;) If you build it, we will come "
Has the time come to move to a newer media platform? If this is what is takes to move skunkworks to a new level, what can we do to achieve this?
Pls share your thoughts
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participants (18)
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[ Brainiac ]
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[watchman]
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aki
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Amarjit Labhuram
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David Mugo
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Frankline Chitwa
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Jared Koyier
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Joe Murithi Njeru
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Jonas | Lamu Software
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Josiah Mugambi
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Ndungi Kyalo
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ndungu stephen
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Oliver Ndegwa
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Paul Njoroge
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Rad!
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saidimu apale
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Solomon Mburu Kamau
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Steve Obbayi