Mac Book Pro, AlienWare thread discussion: Add Toshiba Qosmio X500 as a serious contender
Sharing some thots. Just finished setting the Toshiba Qosmio X500 laptop for someone and this machine is mad! Specs are Corei7 quad core CPU, 8GB RAM, total 1.2TB hdds and a whooping 18.4inch screen which no other laptop manufacturer besides Asus has come up with. The Toshiba laptop is definately on my wish list. In windows task mananger, you can see the 4X2 cores so you get the display of 8 processors. Amazing sound, full length keyboard, blu-ray, hdmi etc etc. ships with W7HE, 64bit. Downside is the battery life of max 3hrs and 4.6Kgs of weight. A huge upside side is a desktop specs machine thats a portable.
I've come to find on laptops that the biggest bottleneck might actually be the hard disk. What speed? 7200 or 5400? On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Sharing some thots. Just finished setting the Toshiba Qosmio X500 laptop for someone and this machine is mad! Specs are Corei7 quad core CPU, 8GB RAM, total 1.2TB hdds and a whooping 18.4inch screen which no other laptop manufacturer besides Asus has come up with. The Toshiba laptop is definately on my wish list. In windows task mananger, you can see the 4X2 cores so you get the display of 8 processors. Amazing sound, full length keyboard, blu-ray, hdmi etc etc. ships with W7HE, 64bit. Downside is the battery life of max 3hrs and 4.6Kgs of weight. A huge upside side is a desktop specs machine thats a portable.
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Get an SSD and you will be sorted out on that bottleneck. On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I've come to find on laptops that the biggest bottleneck might actually be the hard disk. What speed? 7200 or 5400?
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Sharing some thots. Just finished setting the Toshiba Qosmio X500 laptop for someone and this machine is mad! Specs are Corei7 quad core CPU, 8GB RAM, total 1.2TB hdds and a whooping 18.4inch screen which no other laptop manufacturer besides Asus has come up with. The Toshiba laptop is definately on my wish list. In windows task mananger, you can see the 4X2 cores so you get the display of 8 processors. Amazing sound, full length keyboard, blu-ray, hdmi etc etc. ships with W7HE, 64bit. Downside is the battery life of max 3hrs and 4.6Kgs of weight. A huge upside side is a desktop specs machine thats a portable.
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Laptops with screens bigger than 15.4 are hard to carrry around, that is another problem
I'd love to buy an SSD but the costs are outrageous. Especially after local dealers extract their pound of flesh On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Muoki Maingi <mmviqtah@gmail.com> wrote:
Get an SSD and you will be sorted out on that bottleneck.
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I've come to find on laptops that the biggest bottleneck might actually be the hard disk. What speed? 7200 or 5400?
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Sharing some thots. Just finished setting the Toshiba Qosmio X500 laptop for someone and this machine is mad! Specs are Corei7 quad core CPU, 8GB RAM, total 1.2TB hdds and a whooping 18.4inch screen which no other laptop manufacturer besides Asus has come up with. The Toshiba laptop is definately on my wish list. In windows task mananger, you can see the 4X2 cores so you get the display of 8 processors. Amazing sound, full length keyboard, blu-ray, hdmi etc etc. ships with W7HE, 64bit. Downside is the battery life of max 3hrs and 4.6Kgs of weight. A huge upside side is a desktop specs machine thats a portable.
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@Rad, the Qosmio X500 laptop that I setup came with 2 X 640GB @5400rpm HDDs but I checked on the toshiba site, SSD is an option too. @Dennis, I'm definately going to get one as soon as I sort out my finances. The problem is KE is the wheel barrow market and not really a credit market, however I'm going to check with the bank on asset loans. Anyway I spent a day with the Qosmio setup and feel the cost it is worth every cent. Toshiba have really gone out on this machine. For me personally, the biggest sell is the high resolution 18.4inch screen because I can move away from desktops. The laptop is intended for gamers but I believe more so for coders, photo editors, web design and developers and because you can multi-task better on a bigger screen'and very fast specs. And I dont mind lugging around a massive tank of 4.6kgs of a laptop rather than have dual screens that I cannot move around. Me thots. :-) Check this out : http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/qosmio/X500 Rgds.
The Qosmio X300 costs about 131k<http://www.chekelea.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=302>, so I am guessing the X500 will be more? The 13 inch MBP is about 120k and the M11X is 135k. Now, in my warped sense of explaining computer stuff; the MBP is like a Porsche, refined, cute, head turning and quite powerful. The X500 can be compared to the BWM X Series, big, bad (in a good way) and fast. And the M11X is like.... who am i kidding, there is nothing to compare it with :-) On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:46 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Rad, the Qosmio X500 laptop that I setup came with 2 X 640GB @5400rpm HDDs but I checked on the toshiba site, SSD is an option too.
@Dennis, I'm definately going to get one as soon as I sort out my finances. The problem is KE is the wheel barrow market and not really a credit market, however I'm going to check with the bank on asset loans. Anyway I spent a day with the Qosmio setup and feel the cost it is worth every cent. Toshiba have really gone out on this machine. For me personally, the biggest sell is the high resolution 18.4inch screen because I can move away from desktops. The laptop is intended for gamers but I believe more so for coders, photo editors, web design and developers and because you can multi-task better on a bigger screen'and very fast specs. And I dont mind lugging around a massive tank of 4.6kgs of a laptop rather than have dual screens that I cannot move around. Me thots. :-) Check this out : http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/qosmio/X500
Rgds.
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Peter is M11X more superior than the 2 in your opinion? You could compare to a Jet :-) On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
The Qosmio X300 costs about 131k<http://www.chekelea.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=302>, so I am guessing the X500 will be more? The 13 inch MBP is about 120k and the M11X is 135k.
Now, in my warped sense of explaining computer stuff; the MBP is like a Porsche, refined, cute, head turning and quite powerful. The X500 can be compared to the BWM X Series, big, bad (in a good way) and fast. And the M11X is like.... who am i kidding, there is nothing to compare it with :-)
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:46 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Rad, the Qosmio X500 laptop that I setup came with 2 X 640GB @5400rpm HDDs but I checked on the toshiba site, SSD is an option too.
@Dennis, I'm definately going to get one as soon as I sort out my finances. The problem is KE is the wheel barrow market and not really a credit market, however I'm going to check with the bank on asset loans. Anyway I spent a day with the Qosmio setup and feel the cost it is worth every cent. Toshiba have really gone out on this machine. For me personally, the biggest sell is the high resolution 18.4inch screen because I can move away from desktops. The laptop is intended for gamers but I believe more so for coders, photo editors, web design and developers and because you can multi-task better on a bigger screen'and very fast specs. And I dont mind lugging around a massive tank of 4.6kgs of a laptop rather than have dual screens that I cannot move around. Me thots. :-) Check this out : http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/qosmio/X500
Rgds.
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@Peter, with the 18.4 inch screen on the Toshiba Qosmio, its a mega machine and nothing like it around. Real power versus performance. More like a range rover sport with quad cams, 4 intake ports, you name it, Toshiba have done on it on the Qosmio. Me accelerated thots... :-))) On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, in my warped sense of explaining computer stuff; the MBP is like a Porsche, refined, cute, head turning and quite powerful. The X500 can be compared to the BWM X Series, big, bad (in a good way) and fast. And the M11X is like.... who am i kidding, there is nothing to compare it with :-)
@aki, you forgot to tell us that your client will use the machine for email and Powerpoint :-) *_______________________________________________________________ its ok child, He's heard you * On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:25 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Peter, with the 18.4 inch screen on the Toshiba Qosmio, its a mega machine and nothing like it around. Real power versus performance. More like a range rover sport with quad cams, 4 intake ports, you name it, Toshiba have done on it on the Qosmio. Me accelerated thots... :-)))
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, in my warped sense of explaining computer stuff; the MBP is like a Porsche, refined, cute, head turning and quite powerful. The X500 can be compared to the BWM X Series, big, bad (in a good way) and fast. And the M11X is like.... who am i kidding, there is nothing to compare it with :-)
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The Qosmio is a powerful machine available too locally. Alvin On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:24 PM, joe mwirigi <joemwirigi@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki, you forgot to tell us that your client will use the machine for email and Powerpoint :-) _______________________________________________________________ its ok child, He's heard you
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:25 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Peter, with the 18.4 inch screen on the Toshiba Qosmio, its a mega machine and nothing like it around. Real power versus performance. More like a range rover sport with quad cams, 4 intake ports, you name it, Toshiba have done on it on the Qosmio. Me accelerated thots... :-)))
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, in my warped sense of explaining computer stuff; the MBP is like a Porsche, refined, cute, head turning and quite powerful. The X500 can be compared to the BWM X Series, big, bad (in a good way) and fast. And the M11X is like.... who am i kidding, there is nothing to compare it with :-)
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which OS would you run on these machines? Would it make sense to run *nix distros if you want to do heavy photo + video editing? On 14 December 2010 13:14, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
The Qosmio is a powerful machine available too locally.
Alvin
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:24 PM, joe mwirigi <joemwirigi@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki, you forgot to tell us that your client will use the machine for email and Powerpoint :-) _______________________________________________________________ its ok child, He's heard you
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:25 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Peter, with the 18.4 inch screen on the Toshiba Qosmio, its a mega machine and nothing like it around. Real power versus performance. More
like
a range rover sport with quad cams, 4 intake ports, you name it, Toshiba have done on it on the Qosmio. Me accelerated thots... :-)))
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, in my warped sense of explaining computer stuff; the MBP is like a Porsche, refined, cute, head turning and quite powerful. The X500 can
be
compared to the BWM X Series, big, bad (in a good way) and fast. And the M11X is like.... who am i kidding, there is nothing to compare it with :-)
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@Daudi, I'm not sure of the nix distros but the X500 comes with 64bit Win7HP and 8GB Ram. With 2X640GB drives, I can already see it being used with Adobe CS3 on 64bit and also a partition to suit the scratch disks. Here is some interesting info from Adobe : http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/401/kb401088.html . On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were@gmail.com> wrote:
which OS would you run on these machines? Would it make sense to run *nix distros if you want to do heavy photo + video editing?
Lets do a simple feature comparison between the three and taking the default configuration and the cheapest in the range: *feature* *x500* *MBP* *m11x* *m15x* *specific model* X505-Q882 MC374LL/A *screen size* 18.4” 13.3” 11.6” 15.6” *processor speed* 2.4GHz 2.4GHz 1.3GHz 2.4GHz *processor type* i5-450M C2D C2D SU7300 i3 370M *RAM* 4GB DDR3 1066MHz 4GB DDR3 1066MHz 2GB DDR3 800MHz 4GB DDR3 1333MHz *HDD Size* 500GB SATA 250GB SATA 160GB SATA II 320GB SATA II *HDD RPM* 7200 RPM 5400RPM 5400RPM 7200RPM *Graphics card* Geforce GTS 360M Geforce 320M Geforce GT335M with Optimus Geforce GT240M *Discrete graphics memory* 1GB GDDR5 256MB DDR3 1GB 512MB *Battery type* 87Wh, 12cell 63.5Wh unknown 56Wh, 6cell *Est. Battery life* 3.77Hrs 10Hrs 8Hrs unknown *Weight* 4.4KG (9.7lbs) 2.04KG 2.04KG (4.5lbs) unknown *backlit keyboard* no single color many colors many colors *Cost USD$* 1199 1199 799 1199 Obviously, the X500 has more brute power, but IMHO, it would come last last on my wish list. Source: x500: http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/qosmio/X500/available-models MBP: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs-13inch.html M11x: http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-m11x/pd?oc=dkcwmn1&model_id=alienware-m11... On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:21 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Daudi, I'm not sure of the nix distros but the X500 comes with 64bit Win7HP and 8GB Ram. With 2X640GB drives, I can already see it being used with Adobe CS3 on 64bit and also a partition to suit the scratch disks. Here is some interesting info from Adobe : http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/401/kb401088.html .
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were@gmail.com> wrote:
which OS would you run on these machines? Would it make sense to run *nix distros if you want to do heavy photo + video editing?
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Thanks peter for the comparison. makes me wonder why the brutally short battery life for the x500? macbooks always seem to last longer on a single charge than any other laptops ave seen. does windows run too many unnecessary processes or is the battery hardware lower quality? even the regular macbook boasts a ten hour charge even when constantly connected to wifi. On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Lets do a simple feature comparison between the three and taking the default configuration and the cheapest in the range:
*feature* *x500* *MBP* *m11x* *m15x* *specific model* X505-Q882 MC374LL/A
*screen size* 18.4” 13.3” 11.6” 15.6” *processor speed* 2.4GHz 2.4GHz 1.3GHz 2.4GHz *processor type* i5-450M C2D C2D SU7300 i3 370M *RAM* 4GB DDR3 1066MHz 4GB DDR3 1066MHz 2GB DDR3 800MHz 4GB DDR3 1333MHz *HDD Size* 500GB SATA 250GB SATA 160GB SATA II 320GB SATA II *HDD RPM* 7200 RPM 5400RPM 5400RPM 7200RPM *Graphics card* Geforce GTS 360M Geforce 320M Geforce GT335M with Optimus Geforce GT240M *Discrete graphics memory* 1GB GDDR5 256MB DDR3 1GB 512MB *Battery type* 87Wh, 12cell 63.5Wh unknown 56Wh, 6cell *Est. Battery life* 3.77Hrs 10Hrs 8Hrs unknown *Weight* 4.4KG (9.7lbs) 2.04KG 2.04KG (4.5lbs) unknown *backlit keyboard* no single color many colors many colors *Cost USD$* 1199 1199 799 1199
Obviously, the X500 has more brute power, but IMHO, it would come last last on my wish list.
Source: x500: http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/qosmio/X500/available-models MBP: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs-13inch.html M11x: http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-m11x/pd?oc=dkcwmn1&model_id=alienware-m11...
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:21 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Daudi, I'm not sure of the nix distros but the X500 comes with 64bit Win7HP and 8GB Ram. With 2X640GB drives, I can already see it being used with Adobe CS3 on 64bit and also a partition to suit the scratch disks. Here is some interesting info from Adobe : http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/401/kb401088.html .
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were@gmail.com> wrote:
which OS would you run on these machines? Would it make sense to run *nix distros if you want to do heavy photo + video editing?
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@Joe, hehehe....its like the car world. You see many driving Wrx, STi, Evos, GTs etc but can they handle them? I never questioned the client about its use, though there are many uses that I can put the machine too, so already planning ahead on finance options....Just found out that there is something called Asset Financing, goes between 8-10% but need to put time and ground work to get all the details. Next year looks too inspirational..... :-))) On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:24 PM, joe mwirigi <joemwirigi@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki, you forgot to tell us that your client will use the machine for email and Powerpoint :-) *_______________________________________________________________ its ok child, He's heard you *
To car maniacs, pls dont ever try this as TOO TOO dangerious but hope it brings out point on performance. BWM M5 Race against Audi RS4 ....... : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOW4oBG6amI Over and out.
When Thika super Hway is done, we wont miss someone testing the stuff under the hood. :)) Merry Merry Christmas, @ alvin, any xmas offers? *_______________________________________________________________ its ok child, He's heard you * On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:56 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
To car maniacs, pls dont ever try this as TOO TOO dangerious but hope it brings out point on performance. BWM M5 Race against Audi RS4 ....... : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOW4oBG6amI
Over and out.
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On 14 December 2010 15:22, joe mwirigi <joemwirigi@gmail.com> wrote:
When Thika super Hway is done, we wont miss someone testing the stuff under the hood.
and somebody involved in a crash that involves the car somersaulting all the way down. Dont underestimate Kenyans on this
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