This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity at their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted for a more tactical and methodical surgery. The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who said Bobby is a place holder? I love corporate politics. Kiania D. -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] "You don't build a business, you build people who build your business for you" - Brad Sugars
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity at their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted for a more tactical and methodical surgery.
The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who said Bobby is a place holder?
I love corporate politics.
David, I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn? The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also has it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan govt systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest level. KACC must be having all the knowledge. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space. On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity at their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted for a more tactical and methodical surgery.
The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who said Bobby is a place holder?
I love corporate politics.
David,
I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn?
The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also has it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan govt systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest level. KACC must be having all the knowledge.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well. It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s. Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff* because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.* On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space.
On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity at their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted for a more tactical and methodical surgery.
The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who said Bobby is a place holder?
I love corporate politics.
David,
I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn?
The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also has it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan govt systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest level. KACC must be having all the knowledge.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs. On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space.
On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity at their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted for a more tactical and methodical surgery.
The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who said Bobby is a place holder?
I love corporate politics.
David,
I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn?
The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also has it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan govt systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest level. KACC must be having all the knowledge.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes. On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space.
On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity at their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted for a more tactical and methodical surgery.
The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who said Bobby is a place holder?
I love corporate politics.
David,
I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn?
The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also has it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan govt systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest level. KACC must be having all the knowledge.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Think about it why change or shakeup an exceptionally performing winning team? On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Kandie <dkipkulei@gmail.com> wrote:
Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes.
On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space.
On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity at their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted for a more tactical and methodical surgery.
The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who said Bobby is a place holder?
I love corporate politics.
David,
I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn?
The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also has it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan govt systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest level. KACC must be having all the knowledge.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Thought so too - if it ain't broke, don't fix it - so if its being fixed, it must have broken ./Ok3ch On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Think about it why change or shakeup an exceptionally performing winning team?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Kandie <dkipkulei@gmail.com> wrote:
Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes.
On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space.
On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
> This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has > nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee > after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity > at > their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can > claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted > for a more tactical and methodical surgery. > > The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... > next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him > a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who > said Bobby is a place holder? > > I love corporate politics. > > David,
I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn?
The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also has it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan govt systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest level. KACC must be having all the knowledge.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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If Bob has to perform, then he has to let go of the top management (especially) with stiff competition and harder times ahead, he needs guys who appreciate cost cutting and strategy that keeps the company competitive. The management there now were employed when sf started and they have the "monopoly" mindset and that is why they still run back to govt when competition gets stiff. On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thought so too - if it ain't broke, don't fix it - so if its being fixed, it must have broken
./Ok3ch
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Think about it why change or shakeup an exceptionally performing winning team?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Kandie <dkipkulei@gmail.com> wrote:
Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes.
On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space.
On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < > kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has >> nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee >> after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity >> at >> their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can >> claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted >> for a more tactical and methodical surgery. >> >> The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... >> next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him >> a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who >> said Bobby is a place holder? >> >> I love corporate politics. >> >> > David, > > I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to > wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn? > > The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, > but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also > has > it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan > govt > systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest > level. > KACC must be having all the knowledge. > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Damn!! > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Was also wondering why fix it if aint broken, until i saw the list of top management team. It is more a replica of former Celtel Management team. Personally, having worked with them then, they are very qualified and up to the task. But there is a problem assembling almost man-to-man your competotor employees.
From a strategic point of view, this brings the former "shared values". Which explains why when Airtel reduced the prices recently, instead of them coming up with counter offers for the customers, they started complaining about sustainability, shared holders and the like. This was unlike safcon that we all knew
It was more like Kencell/Celtel/Zain during those days when they refused to do per second billing sighting sustainability. Talk of poaching employees plus the "shared values". They come with their former employer values, changes your values and the ball is reversed. Bob is on the right track. Otherwise safcom will be a lot of trouble soon. my 2 cents ________________________________ From: Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 3:30:58 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Queen bee shake-up: the Chinese connection Thought so too - if it ain't broke, don't fix it - so if its being fixed, it must have broken ./Ok3ch On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Think about it why change or shakeup an exceptionally performing winning team?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Kandie <dkipkulei@gmail.com> wrote:
Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes.
On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space.
On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
> This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has > nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee > after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity > at > their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can > claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted > for a more tactical and methodical surgery. > > The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... > next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him > a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who > said Bobby is a place holder? > > I love corporate politics. > > David,
I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn?
The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also has it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan govt systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest level. KACC must be having all the knowledge.
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From the info I have the brown envelope stuff hasn't only been going on with the Chinese but also with some local heavyweights - I wonder if these have also been sniffed out.... the numbers for the local chaps might even be bigger than the Chinks...
B On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Think about it why change or shakeup an exceptionally performing winning team?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Kandie <dkipkulei@gmail.com> wrote:
Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes.
On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space.
On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd
<
kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
> This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has > nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee > after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity > at > their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can > claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted > for a more tactical and methodical surgery. > > The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... > next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him > a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who > said Bobby is a place holder? > > I love corporate politics. > > David,
I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn?
The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also has it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan govt systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest level. KACC must be having all the knowledge.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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@ David may be it is the emergence of "Peter's Principle"....."in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence" the two guys who were shown the door had reached so high in the organization that they became incompetent. But believe me Safaricom is not done with the re-structuring. On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
From the info I have the brown envelope stuff hasn't only been going on with the Chinese but also with some local heavyweights - I wonder if these have also been sniffed out.... the numbers for the local chaps might even be bigger than the Chinks...
B
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Think about it why change or shakeup an exceptionally performing winning team?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Kandie <dkipkulei@gmail.com> wrote:
Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes.
On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space.
On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < > kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has >> nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee >> after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity >> at >> their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can >> claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted >> for a more tactical and methodical surgery. >> >> The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... >> next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him >> a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who >> said Bobby is a place holder? >> >> I love corporate politics. >> >> > David, > > I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to > wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn? > > The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, > but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also > has > it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan > govt > systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest > level. > KACC must be having all the knowledge. > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Damn!! > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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And they still posted 19B profits? Or is that why they were able to post 19B profits I have another trail of thought, which is what people say about Moi. Was Moi the problem in his regime? or his lieutenants? :-) Coz now Safcoms new CEO is cleaning up......ama he is just detail oriented? On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
@ David may be it is the emergence of "Peter's Principle"....."in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence"
the two guys who were shown the door had reached so high in the organization that they became incompetent.
But believe me Safaricom is not done with the re-structuring.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
From the info I have the brown envelope stuff hasn't only been going on with the Chinese but also with some local heavyweights - I wonder if these have also been sniffed out.... the numbers for the local chaps might even be bigger than the Chinks...
B
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Think about it why change or shakeup an exceptionally performing winning team?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Kandie <dkipkulei@gmail.com> wrote:
Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes.
On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting > business as usual watch this space. > > On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < >> kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has >>> nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee >>> after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity >>> at >>> their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can >>> claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted >>> for a more tactical and methodical surgery. >>> >>> The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... >>> next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him >>> a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who >>> said Bobby is a place holder? >>> >>> I love corporate politics. >>> >>> >> David, >> >> I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to >> wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn? >> >> The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, >> but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also >> has >> it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan >> govt >> systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest >> level. >> KACC must be having all the knowledge. >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> Damn!! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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#canofworms I think the previous CEO was idolized for vavavuum and the fact that he took safcom from 0-100kph. For the next portion they need to shed of baggage and bring real solid performers. @McD Love the Peter Principle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle For one of the guys am sure this was the case the other one not so sure. Kiania D. On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
And they still posted 19B profits? Or is that why they were able to post 19B profits I have another trail of thought, which is what people say about Moi. Was Moi the problem in his regime? or his lieutenants? :-) Coz now Safcoms new CEO is cleaning up......ama he is just detail oriented?
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
@ David may be it is the emergence of "Peter's Principle"....."in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence"
the two guys who were shown the door had reached so high in the organization that they became incompetent.
But believe me Safaricom is not done with the re-structuring.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
From the info I have the brown envelope stuff hasn't only been going on with the Chinese but also with some local heavyweights - I wonder if these have also been sniffed out.... the numbers for the local chaps might even be bigger than the Chinks...
B
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Think about it why change or shakeup an exceptionally performing winning team?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Kandie <dkipkulei@gmail.com> wrote:
Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes.
On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
> I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a > common > corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well. > > It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style > and > Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s. > > Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will > support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the > *staff*because the structure has defined > *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get > new > management *style.* > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its >> interrupting >> business as usual watch this space. >> >> On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting >>> Ltd < >>> kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but >>>> has >>>> nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen >>>> bee >>>> after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" >>>> activity >>>> at >>>> their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can >>>> claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's >>>> opted >>>> for a more tactical and methodical surgery. >>>> >>>> The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry >>>> ... >>>> next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also >>>> gives him >>>> a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. >>>> Who >>>> said Bobby is a place holder? >>>> >>>> I love corporate politics. >>>> >>>> >>> David, >>> >>> I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love >>> to >>> wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn? >>> >>> The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture >>> yes, >>> but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word >>> also >>> has >>> it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the >>> Kenyan >>> govt >>> systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the >>> highest >>> level. >>> KACC must be having all the knowledge. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>> Damn!! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >
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@ david ...an interesting scenario would be Safacom does not achieve its objective! then the Peter Principle will apple to Mr.Bob! On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:53 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
#canofworms I think the previous CEO was idolized for vavavuum and the fact that he took safcom from 0-100kph. For the next portion they need to shed of baggage and bring real solid performers.
@McD Love the Peter Principle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle For one of the guys am sure this was the case the other one not so sure.
Kiania D.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
And they still posted 19B profits? Or is that why they were able to post 19B profits I have another trail of thought, which is what people say about Moi. Was Moi the problem in his regime? or his lieutenants? :-) Coz now Safcoms new CEO is cleaning up......ama he is just detail oriented?
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
@ David may be it is the emergence of "Peter's Principle"....."in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence"
the two guys who were shown the door had reached so high in the organization that they became incompetent.
But believe me Safaricom is not done with the re-structuring.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <
blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:
From the info I have the brown envelope stuff hasn't only been going on with the Chinese but also with some local heavyweights - I wonder if
these
have also been sniffed out.... the numbers for the local chaps might even be bigger than the Chinks...
B
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Think about it why change or shakeup an exceptionally performing
winning
team?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Kandie <dkipkulei@gmail.com> wrote:
Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes.
On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote: > Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the > business, > Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a > shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, > They are > competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the > signs > are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs. > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald > <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a >> common >> corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well. >> >> It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style >> and >> Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s. >> >> Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will >> support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the >> *staff*because the structure has defined >> *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get >> new >> management *style.* >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its >>> interrupting >>> business as usual watch this space. >>> >>> On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting >>>> Ltd < >>>> kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but >>>>> has >>>>> nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen >>>>> bee >>>>> after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" >>>>> activity >>>>> at >>>>> their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can >>>>> claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's >>>>> opted >>>>> for a more tactical and methodical surgery. >>>>> >>>>> The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry >>>>> ... >>>>> next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also >>>>> gives him >>>>> a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. >>>>> Who >>>>> said Bobby is a place holder? >>>>> >>>>> I love corporate politics. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> David, >>>> >>>> I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love >>>> to >>>> wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn? >>>> >>>> The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture >>>> yes, >>>> but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word >>>> also >>>> has >>>> it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the >>>> Kenyan >>>> govt >>>> systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the >>>> highest >>>> level. >>>> KACC must be having all the knowledge. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>> Nairobi,KE >>>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>>> Damn!! >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >
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So where were?? were beyond MacD's alpha beta management theories of shareholder value is real rot. When Bob Collymore says that he'll get CTO from Voda he's not attesting to our incompetence as Phares is insunuating. Rather he's saying he cant trust anyone from within. This is a serious blow to us as professionals in Tech, it's not our skill but out integrity and character that we have to biuld. Competence and Character are not mutually exclusive. Meanwhile the Chinese are looking ... My thoughts Kiania D. On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space.
On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity at their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted for a more tactical and methodical surgery.
The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who said Bobby is a place holder?
I love corporate politics.
David,
I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn?
The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also has it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan govt systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest level. KACC must be having all the knowledge.
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Thanks Kiania for your valued input
@David ....I agree in every organization there is management and internal politics. In my explanation, I was just giving the management aspect of it. On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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Joe Maina -
Joram Mwinamo -
Joseph McDonald -
Nicholas Mutinda -
Odhiambo Washington -
Okechukwu -
Shadrack Mwaniki