This morning Riyaz let us into the Wananchi Head End at Loita House. Check out the pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mentalacrobatics/sets/72157625380436545/ -- Pamoja e:daudi.were@gmail.com <e%3Adaudi.were@gmail.com> skype: d.were
@Daudi, nice pics of the racks and switches. :-) I see some racks dedicated to sat/dvb receivers. Maybe @Riyaz would care to comment if the single cable rollout for triple play has come into the market? Rgds. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were@gmail.com> wrote:
This morning Riyaz let us into the Wananchi Head End at Loita House. Check out the pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mentalacrobatics/sets/72157625380436545/
-- Pamoja
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it's live in Kile, Kilimani and Lavington http://www.zuku.co.ke/fibre http://www.zuku.co.ke/coverage/ http://www.techweez.com/2010/12/01/zuku-announces-ambitious-mass-market-busi... http://www.nairobiliving.com/component/content/article/19-blog/830-zuku-trip... ----- Original Message ----- From: "aki" <aki275@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 2:30:59 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Inside Wananchi's Head End @Daudi, nice pics of the racks and switches. :-) I see some racks dedicated to sat/dvb receivers. Maybe @Riyaz would care to comment if the single cable rollout for triple play has come into the market? Rgds. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Daudi Were < daudi.were@gmail.com > wrote: This morning Riyaz let us into the Wananchi Head End at Loita House. Check out the pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mentalacrobatics/sets/72157625380436545/ -- Pamoja e:daudi.were@gmail.com skype: d.were _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
@Riyaz, thnks for the feedback. I paste these below from one of the links and some comments from you if possible. *"This also includes an IP head end with HD (High Definition) channels capable to serve the entire East African region via fibre links, FTTC (Fiber To The Curb) architecture, bringing signals via fibre to every street level, 1 GHz system providing plenty of bandwidth, future proof technology roadmap which will allow roll out of new and innovative services, e.g. Video on Demand (VoD), videoconferencing, amongst others."* FTTC, how much have we progressed on this and is there any location that is using a single set-top box that's receiving the triple play on cat6/co-axial? For example, there are many devices that are pushing out Video/Audio/Data over the same cable. Interesting that since Wananchi are the only ones who are moving away from traditional data markets, I'd highly suggest that your sales teams should keep hotels, airports, malls, buildings close to them. Given the infrastructure that you guys are pushing ahead with, RF is going to become obsolete very quickly. http://www.onevideo.co.uk/video-processing/video-ditribution/avovercat5 *According to Reinartz, Zuku will now offer unmatched speeds from 1 MBps up to 8 MBps for residential customers and from 8 MBps up to 20 MBps for business customers* Assuming that its FTTC and Cat6/Co-axial, is there any tests of such services going on? 20Mbits would put us on par with parts of Europe. Rgds. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Riyaz Bachani <riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com
wrote:
it's live in Kile, Kilimani and Lavington
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:21 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Riyaz, thnks for the feedback. I paste these below from one of the links and some comments from you if possible.
"This also includes an IP head end with HD (High Definition) channels capable to serve the entire East African region via fibre links, FTTC (Fiber To The Curb) architecture, bringing signals via fibre to every street level, 1 GHz system providing plenty of bandwidth, future proof technology roadmap which will allow roll out of new and innovative services, e.g. Video on Demand (VoD), videoconferencing, amongst others."
Is this over IPV6? Just wondering since we are down to 7 unallocated IANA blocks: http://andorian.blogspot.com/2010/11/last-few-ipv4-blocks.html
FTTC, how much have we progressed on this and is there any location that is using a single set-top box that's receiving the triple play on cat6/co-axial?
For example, there are many devices that are pushing out Video/Audio/Data over the same cable. Interesting that since Wananchi are the only ones who are moving away from traditional data markets, I'd highly suggest that your sales teams should keep hotels, airports, malls, buildings close to them. Given the infrastructure that you guys are pushing ahead with, RF is going to become obsolete very quickly.
http://www.onevideo.co.uk/video-processing/video-ditribution/avovercat5
According to Reinartz, Zuku will now offer unmatched speeds from 1 MBps up to 8 MBps for residential customers and from 8 MBps up to 20 MBps for business customers
Assuming that its FTTC and Cat6/Co-axial, is there any tests of such services going on? 20Mbits would put us on par with parts of Europe.
Rgds.
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Riyaz Bachani <riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com> wrote:
it's live in Kile, Kilimani and Lavington
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aki, Hope I understood your questions ... We've got an HFC Network - Hybrid Fiber Coaxial. We go fiber-deep, so fiber to every street level almost. The cable that brings services to your home is a single cable running Video, DOCSIS data, and SIP voice. We can outsource services to hotels, or sell them channels, and they maintain their networks. A lot of them usually have an SMATV system of some sort. Though I think the quality of those systems could be improved ... You can check out some of the people enjoying the Zuku fibre services below ... --- quote --- Zen moment of the day http://plixi.com/p/59330894 @kaboro yup http://yfrog.com/0ilb80j “@martingicheru: @Kamakil its worth it, #dedicated #fibre , am getting 4mbps, thats true broadband” 4mbps. Same here man!! How do I put this lightly ummmm.... I'M SURFING #ZUKUFIBRE 4MBPS BABY!!!!!!! #ECSTATIC!!!! Plus they gave me a free WIFI router!!! Give me a call, or drop me a note - I'll organize a visit for you (with Daudi who skived !) The video service is even more exciting ;) R ----- Original Message ----- From: "aki" <aki275@gmail.com> To: "Riyaz Bachani" <riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com>, "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 4:21:41 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Inside Wananchi's Head End @Riyaz, thnks for the feedback. I paste these below from one of the links and some comments from you if possible. "This also includes an IP head end with HD (High Definition) channels capable to serve the entire East African region via fibre links, FTTC (Fiber To The Curb) architecture, bringing signals via fibre to every street level, 1 GHz system providing plenty of bandwidth, future proof technology roadmap which will allow roll out of new and innovative services, e.g. Video on Demand (VoD), videoconferencing, amongst others." FTTC, how much have we progressed on this and is there any location that is using a single set-top box that's receiving the triple play on cat6/co-axial? For example, there are many devices that are pushing out Video/Audio/Data over the same cable. Interesting that since Wananchi are the only ones who are moving away from traditional data markets, I'd highly suggest that your sales teams should keep hotels, airports, malls, buildings close to them. Given the infrastructure that you guys are pushing ahead with, RF is going to become obsolete very quickly. http://www.onevideo.co.uk/video-processing/video-ditribution/avovercat5 According to Reinartz, Zuku will now offer unmatched speeds from 1 MBps up to 8 MBps for residential customers and from 8 MBps up to 20 MBps for business customers Assuming that its FTTC and Cat6/Co-axial, is there any tests of such services going on? 20Mbits would put us on par with parts of Europe. Rgds. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Riyaz Bachani < riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com > wrote: it's live in Kile, Kilimani and Lavington
Hello Riyaz, I already have Zuku TV on Coax but still using WIMAX for hte Zuku 1Mbps .. I would like to convert this to the new Triple play is this possible ?? BR// Watson On 1 December 2010 17:28, Riyaz Bachani <riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com>wrote:
aki,
Hope I understood your questions ...
We've got an HFC Network - Hybrid Fiber Coaxial. We go fiber-deep, so fiber to every street level almost. The cable that brings services to your home is a single cable running Video, DOCSIS data, and SIP voice.
We can outsource services to hotels, or sell them channels, and they maintain their networks. A lot of them usually have an SMATV system of some sort. Though I think the quality of those systems could be improved ...
You can check out some of the people enjoying the Zuku fibre services below ...
--- quote --- Zen moment of the day http://plixi.com/p/59330894 @kaboro yup http://yfrog.com/0ilb80j “@martingicheru: @Kamakil its worth it, #dedicated #fibre , am getting 4mbps, thats true broadband” 4mbps. Same here man!! How do I put this lightly ummmm.... I'M SURFING #ZUKUFIBRE 4MBPS BABY!!!!!!! #ECSTATIC!!!! Plus they gave me a free WIFI router!!!
Give me a call, or drop me a note - I'll organize a visit for you (with Daudi who skived !) The video service is even more exciting ;)
R
----- Original Message ----- From: "aki" <aki275@gmail.com> To: "Riyaz Bachani" <riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com>, "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 4:21:41 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Inside Wananchi's Head End
@Riyaz, thnks for the feedback. I paste these below from one of the links and some comments from you if possible.
"This also includes an IP head end with HD (High Definition) channels capable to serve the entire East African region via fibre links, FTTC (Fiber To The Curb) architecture, bringing signals via fibre to every street level, 1 GHz system providing plenty of bandwidth, future proof technology roadmap which will allow roll out of new and innovative services, e.g. Video on Demand (VoD), videoconferencing, amongst others."
FTTC, how much have we progressed on this and is there any location that is using a single set-top box that's receiving the triple play on cat6/co-axial?
For example, there are many devices that are pushing out Video/Audio/Data over the same cable. Interesting that since Wananchi are the only ones who are moving away from traditional data markets, I'd highly suggest that your sales teams should keep hotels, airports, malls, buildings close to them. Given the infrastructure that you guys are pushing ahead with, RF is going to become obsolete very quickly.
http://www.onevideo.co.uk/video-processing/video-ditribution/avovercat5
According to Reinartz, Zuku will now offer unmatched speeds from 1 MBps up to 8 MBps for residential customers and from 8 MBps up to 20 MBps for business customers Assuming that its FTTC and Cat6/Co-axial, is there any tests of such services going on? 20Mbits would put us on par with parts of Europe.
Rgds.
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Riyaz Bachani < riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com > wrote:
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hey Watson, where do you stay ? service is currently live in Kileleshwa, Kilimani, Lavington areas. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Kambo" <wkwats@gmail.com> To: "Riyaz Bachani" <riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com>, "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 6:28:26 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Inside Wananchi's Head End Hello Riyaz, I already have Zuku TV on Coax but still using WIMAX for hte Zuku 1Mbps .. I would like to convert this to the new Triple play is this possible ?? BR// Watson On 1 December 2010 17:28, Riyaz Bachani < riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com > wrote: aki, Hope I understood your questions ... We've got an HFC Network - Hybrid Fiber Coaxial. We go fiber-deep, so fiber to every street level almost. The cable that brings services to your home is a single cable running Video, DOCSIS data, and SIP voice. We can outsource services to hotels, or sell them channels, and they maintain their networks. A lot of them usually have an SMATV system of some sort. Though I think the quality of those systems could be improved ... You can check out some of the people enjoying the Zuku fibre services below ... --- quote --- Zen moment of the day http://plixi.com/p/59330894 @kaboro yup http://yfrog.com/0ilb80j “@martingicheru: @Kamakil its worth it, #dedicated #fibre , am getting 4mbps, thats true broadband” 4mbps. Same here man!! How do I put this lightly ummmm.... I'M SURFING #ZUKUFIBRE 4MBPS BABY!!!!!!! #ECSTATIC!!!! Plus they gave me a free WIFI router!!! Give me a call, or drop me a note - I'll organize a visit for you (with Daudi who skived !) The video service is even more exciting ;) R ----- Original Message ----- From: "aki" < aki275@gmail.com > To: "Riyaz Bachani" < riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com >, "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 4:21:41 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Inside Wananchi's Head End @Riyaz, thnks for the feedback. I paste these below from one of the links and some comments from you if possible. "This also includes an IP head end with HD (High Definition) channels capable to serve the entire East African region via fibre links, FTTC (Fiber To The Curb) architecture, bringing signals via fibre to every street level, 1 GHz system providing plenty of bandwidth, future proof technology roadmap which will allow roll out of new and innovative services, e.g. Video on Demand (VoD), videoconferencing, amongst others." FTTC, how much have we progressed on this and is there any location that is using a single set-top box that's receiving the triple play on cat6/co-axial? For example, there are many devices that are pushing out Video/Audio/Data over the same cable. Interesting that since Wananchi are the only ones who are moving away from traditional data markets, I'd highly suggest that your sales teams should keep hotels, airports, malls, buildings close to them. Given the infrastructure that you guys are pushing ahead with, RF is going to become obsolete very quickly. http://www.onevideo.co.uk/video-processing/video-ditribution/avovercat5 According to Reinartz, Zuku will now offer unmatched speeds from 1 MBps up to 8 MBps for residential customers and from 8 MBps up to 20 MBps for business customers Assuming that its FTTC and Cat6/Co-axial, is there any tests of such services going on? 20Mbits would put us on par with parts of Europe. Rgds. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Riyaz Bachani < riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com > wrote: it's live in Kile, Kilimani and Lavington _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Watson Kambo
Now I am very very annoyed... Why do I always see such goodies being given to lavi, kili, westie, et. al. Why don't you bring this high speed fibre thingy to where the backbone of the economy resides i.e. eastlando, home of real hustlers aka sonkos...here our money is liquid and not held up in investments and stocks...liquid baby, liquid! ...nkt!! Claire.
@ Claire, the fiber security is Key. Eastlando peeps will mistake it for copper and try smelting it. Sincere Regards, RONOH E. KIBET. sent from my iPhone iV On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Now I am very very annoyed...
Why do I always see such goodies being given to lavi, kili, westie, et. al.
Why don't you bring this high speed fibre thingy to where the backbone of the economy resides i.e. eastlando, home of real hustlers aka sonkos...here our money is liquid and not held up in investments and stocks...liquid baby, liquid!
...nkt!!
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LOL not any more Kibet .. they found out there is nothing guys cutting fiber these days would be ones sabotaging that particular company ... On 1 December 2010 19:12, Ronoh Kibet Ean. <eanronoh@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Claire, the fiber security is Key. Eastlando peeps will mistake it for copper and try smelting it.
Sincere Regards, RONOH E. KIBET.
sent from my iPhone iV
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Now I am very very annoyed...
Why do I always see such goodies being given to lavi, kili, westie, et. al.
Why don't you bring this high speed fibre thingy to where the backbone of the economy resides i.e. eastlando, home of real hustlers aka sonkos...here our money is liquid and not held up in investments and stocks...liquid baby, liquid!
...nkt!!
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@Riyaz Am currently on zuku biz getting 10Mbps and am happy. I was told the fiber am on is not HFC ready. Am located at rahimtulla towers, when do i expect to have zuku tv there? -- Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki, Phone: (+254) - 772333075 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
What about on Msa road, estates around Msa round like South C , South B, Imara Daima, Embakasi et al, I have seen the wire that holds the fibre, but not the fibre on the elec poles?
Guys, Another thing I do not get is why this service should be rolled out to a dude living in lavington on one acre in a leafy estate, with his wife, one dog and a mboch (who thinks that internet is an advanced fishing net). The dude will pay wananchi Ksh. 3,499...well and good...but.. ...On the other side of town, somewhere in Eastlands...the same one acre of land can accomodate 100 potential customers, housed vertically, who can also afford to pay Ksh. 3,499... In other words: Lavington's 1 acre = Ksh.3,499 monthly income for wananchi online Eastlands' 1 acre = Ksh.349,900 monthly income for wananchi online (100 x 3,499) I mean even of you charged each dude in eastlands Ksh. 100 you will still make Sh. 10,000 (which is even more than what you are getting from the lavington dude) That is why Equity Bank came and overtook those other bank that thought they were too ritzy for the common mwananchi. Claire. On 12/2/10, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
What about on Msa road, estates around Msa round like South C , South B, Imara Daima, Embakasi et al, I have seen the wire that holds the fibre, but not the fibre on the elec poles?
I was reading about Aaron Patzer the former owner of mint.com (sold to Intuit for 170 M usd) he said one of the things that makes a successful business is make a product that can be sold to very many people......so claire is very right. We will never have an internet revolution if providers only think of Kile,Lavi etc.....the assumption being that for you to stay in Lavi or Kile you have more money.But there are guys in Kile who spend 3 quarters of their salo on rent so that they can fit to a certain lifestyle. Meanwhile there is dude in Eastlands with 4 butcheries each making a net of 10 k per day...... Obviously there are more people in Eastlands who can pay for Zuku..as well. Btw Riyaz for the longest I have been promised Thika Road...as well On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Another thing I do not get is why this service should be rolled out to a dude living in lavington on one acre in a leafy estate, with his wife, one dog and a mboch (who thinks that internet is an advanced fishing net). The dude will pay wananchi Ksh. 3,499...well and good...but..
...On the other side of town, somewhere in Eastlands...the same one acre of land can accomodate 100 potential customers, housed vertically, who can also afford to pay Ksh. 3,499...
In other words:
Lavington's 1 acre = Ksh.3,499 monthly income for wananchi online Eastlands' 1 acre = Ksh.349,900 monthly income for wananchi online (100 x 3,499)
I mean even of you charged each dude in eastlands Ksh. 100 you will still make Sh. 10,000 (which is even more than what you are getting from the lavington dude)
That is why Equity Bank came and overtook those other bank that thought they were too ritzy for the common mwananchi.
Claire.
On 12/2/10, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
What about on Msa road, estates around Msa round like South C , South B, Imara Daima, Embakasi et al, I have seen the wire that holds the fibre, but not the fibre on the elec poles?
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The fact that these guys use overhead power cables to carry their fiber should mean that they have access to each and every home with electricity. why they are concentrating on the 'rich' neighborhoods is a mystery to me. Granted I have no idea of what goes into taking fiber to the last mile but whether its in kile or lavi or eastlando internet use is the same, torrents, youtube , facebook and googling stuff. . .what am hoping is their grandmaster plan is to create a sort of local/metro internet such that I (seated in westlands) may be limited from downloading a movie from a russian server @1mbps but getting a file from a guy (on zuku) in eastlands downloads @ 100mbps Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.posterous.com My profiles: [image: Facebook] <http:www.facebook.com/Eng.Kangy> [image: Twitter] <www.twitter.com/Mwangy> Signature powered by <http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install?utm_source=extension&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=footer> WiseStamp<http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install?utm_source=extension&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=footer> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I was reading about Aaron Patzer the former owner of mint.com (sold to Intuit for 170 M usd) he said one of the things that makes a successful business is make a product that can be sold to very many people......so claire is very right.
We will never have an internet revolution if providers only think of Kile,Lavi etc.....the assumption being that for you to stay in Lavi or Kile you have more money.But there are guys in Kile who spend 3 quarters of their salo on rent so that they can fit to a certain lifestyle.
Meanwhile there is dude in Eastlands with 4 butcheries each making a net of 10 k per day......
Obviously there are more people in Eastlands who can pay for Zuku..as well.
Btw Riyaz for the longest I have been promised Thika Road...as well
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Guys,
Another thing I do not get is why this service should be rolled out to a dude living in lavington on one acre in a leafy estate, with his wife, one dog and a mboch (who thinks that internet is an advanced fishing net). The dude will pay wananchi Ksh. 3,499...well and good...but..
...On the other side of town, somewhere in Eastlands...the same one acre of land can accomodate 100 potential customers, housed vertically, who can also afford to pay Ksh. 3,499...
In other words:
Lavington's 1 acre = Ksh.3,499 monthly income for wananchi online Eastlands' 1 acre = Ksh.349,900 monthly income for wananchi online (100 x 3,499)
I mean even of you charged each dude in eastlands Ksh. 100 you will still make Sh. 10,000 (which is even more than what you are getting from the lavington dude)
That is why Equity Bank came and overtook those other bank that thought they were too ritzy for the common mwananchi.
Claire.
On 12/2/10, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
What about on Msa road, estates around Msa round like South C , South B, Imara Daima, Embakasi et al, I have seen the wire that holds the fibre, but not the fibre on the elec poles?
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Guys, relax ... Our plan is to build 500k homes in the next couple of years. We want to cover all of Nairobi, especially Eastlands etc, which we've always recognized as key markets. That's what the service is all about. It just takes time to rollout, and we had to start somewhere :) R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2010 10:55:37 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Inside Wananchi's Head End The fact that these guys use overhead power cables to carry their fiber should mean that they have access to each and every home with electricity. why they are concentrating on the 'rich' neighborhoods is a mystery to me. Granted I have no idea of what goes into taking fiber to the last mile but whether its in kile or lavi or eastlando internet use is the same, torrents, youtube , facebook and googling stuff. . .what am hoping is their grandmaster plan is to create a sort of local/metro internet such that I (seated in westlands) may be limited from downloading a movie from a russian server @1mbps but getting a file from a guy (on zuku) in eastlands downloads @ 100mbps Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.posterous.com My profiles: FacebookTwitter Signature powered by WiseStamp On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Joseph McDonald < mcdonaldoj@gmail.com > wrote: I was reading about Aaron Patzer the former owner of mint.com (sold to Intuit for 170 M usd) he said one of the things that makes a successful business is make a product that can be sold to very many people......so claire is very right. We will never have an internet revolution if providers only think of Kile,Lavi etc.....the assumption being that for you to stay in Lavi or Kile you have more money.But there are guys in Kile who spend 3 quarters of their salo on rent so that they can fit to a certain lifestyle. Meanwhile there is dude in Eastlands with 4 butcheries each making a net of 10 k per day...... Obviously there are more people in Eastlands who can pay for Zuku..as well. Btw Riyaz for the longest I have been promised Thika Road...as well On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Claire Njoki < clairenjoki@gmail.com > wrote: Guys, Another thing I do not get is why this service should be rolled out to a dude living in lavington on one acre in a leafy estate, with his wife, one dog and a mboch (who thinks that internet is an advanced fishing net). The dude will pay wananchi Ksh. 3,499...well and good...but.. ...On the other side of town, somewhere in Eastlands...the same one acre of land can accomodate 100 potential customers, housed vertically, who can also afford to pay Ksh. 3,499... In other words: Lavington's 1 acre = Ksh.3,499 monthly income for wananchi online Eastlands' 1 acre = Ksh.349,900 monthly income for wananchi online (100 x 3,499) I mean even of you charged each dude in eastlands Ksh. 100 you will still make Sh. 10,000 (which is even more than what you are getting from the lavington dude) That is why Equity Bank came and overtook those other bank that thought they were too ritzy for the common mwananchi. Claire. On 12/2/10, Dennis Kioko < dmbuvi@gmail.com > wrote:
What about on Msa road, estates around Msa round like South C , South B, Imara Daima, Embakasi et al, I have seen the wire that holds the fibre, but not the fibre on the elec poles?
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I'd like to draw your attention to something called the Living Standard Measure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_of_living) , which is used by product and brand managers to assess their markets and know who to target for what product. The last LSM study done in Kenya was by Synovate in 2007, and you can find a detailed review in the Deacons share offer prospectus. The essence is this, depending on where you live and what you have (DSTV, number of Cars etc) you can be targetted for different products including Internet. The long and short of it, by virtue of where you live, you are in a different LSM class and will be reached but at a much later date. My two thoughts. Kiania D. On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Riyaz Bachani <riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com> wrote:
Guys, relax ...
Our plan is to build 500k homes in the next couple of years. We want to cover all of Nairobi, especially Eastlands etc, which we've always recognized as key markets. That's what the service is all about. It just takes time to rollout, and we had to start somewhere :)
R
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2010 10:55:37 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Inside Wananchi's Head End
The fact that these guys use overhead power cables to carry their fiber should mean that they have access to each and every home with electricity. why they are concentrating on the 'rich' neighborhoods is a mystery to me. Granted I have no idea of what goes into taking fiber to the last mile but whether its in kile or lavi or eastlando internet use is the same, torrents, youtube , facebook and googling stuff. . .what am hoping is their grandmaster plan is to create a sort of local/metro internet such that I (seated in westlands) may be limited from downloading a movie from a russian server @1mbps but getting a file from a guy (on zuku) in eastlands downloads @ 100mbps
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Joseph McDonald < mcdonaldoj@gmail.com > wrote:
I was reading about Aaron Patzer the former owner of mint.com (sold to Intuit for 170 M usd) he said one of the things that makes a successful business is make a product that can be sold to very many people......so claire is very right.
We will never have an internet revolution if providers only think of Kile,Lavi etc.....the assumption being that for you to stay in Lavi or Kile you have more money.But there are guys in Kile who spend 3 quarters of their salo on rent so that they can fit to a certain lifestyle.
Meanwhile there is dude in Eastlands with 4 butcheries each making a net of 10 k per day......
Obviously there are more people in Eastlands who can pay for Zuku..as well.
Btw Riyaz for the longest I have been promised Thika Road...as well
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Claire Njoki < clairenjoki@gmail.com > wrote:
Guys,
Another thing I do not get is why this service should be rolled out to a dude living in lavington on one acre in a leafy estate, with his wife, one dog and a mboch (who thinks that internet is an advanced fishing net). The dude will pay wananchi Ksh. 3,499...well and good...but..
...On the other side of town, somewhere in Eastlands...the same one acre of land can accomodate 100 potential customers, housed vertically, who can also afford to pay Ksh. 3,499...
In other words:
Lavington's 1 acre = Ksh.3,499 monthly income for wananchi online Eastlands' 1 acre = Ksh.349,900 monthly income for wananchi online (100 x 3,499)
I mean even of you charged each dude in eastlands Ksh. 100 you will still make Sh. 10,000 (which is even more than what you are getting from the lavington dude)
That is why Equity Bank came and overtook those other bank that thought they were too ritzy for the common mwananchi.
Claire.
On 12/2/10, Dennis Kioko < dmbuvi@gmail.com > wrote:
What about on Msa road, estates around Msa round like South C , South B, Imara Daima, Embakasi et al, I have seen the wire that holds the fibre, but not the fibre on the elec poles?
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Check out this report http://www.msra.or.ke/documents/conference/2009/MEDIA%20CONSUMPTION%20HABITS... on page 13, you'll get a better understanding. Kiania D. On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:23 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd like to draw your attention to something called the Living Standard Measure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_of_living) , which is used by product and brand managers to assess their markets and know who to target for what product.
The last LSM study done in Kenya was by Synovate in 2007, and you can find a detailed review in the Deacons share offer prospectus. The essence is this, depending on where you live and what you have (DSTV, number of Cars etc) you can be targetted for different products including Internet. The long and short of it, by virtue of where you live, you are in a different LSM class and will be reached but at a much later date.
My two thoughts.
Kiania D.
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Riyaz Bachani <riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com> wrote:
Guys, relax ...
Our plan is to build 500k homes in the next couple of years. We want to cover all of Nairobi, especially Eastlands etc, which we've always recognized as key markets. That's what the service is all about. It just takes time to rollout, and we had to start somewhere :)
R
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2010 10:55:37 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Inside Wananchi's Head End
The fact that these guys use overhead power cables to carry their fiber should mean that they have access to each and every home with electricity. why they are concentrating on the 'rich' neighborhoods is a mystery to me. Granted I have no idea of what goes into taking fiber to the last mile but whether its in kile or lavi or eastlando internet use is the same, torrents, youtube , facebook and googling stuff. . .what am hoping is their grandmaster plan is to create a sort of local/metro internet such that I (seated in westlands) may be limited from downloading a movie from a russian server @1mbps but getting a file from a guy (on zuku) in eastlands downloads @ 100mbps
Regards,
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Joseph McDonald < mcdonaldoj@gmail.com > wrote:
I was reading about Aaron Patzer the former owner of mint.com (sold to Intuit for 170 M usd) he said one of the things that makes a successful business is make a product that can be sold to very many people......so claire is very right.
We will never have an internet revolution if providers only think of Kile,Lavi etc.....the assumption being that for you to stay in Lavi or Kile you have more money.But there are guys in Kile who spend 3 quarters of their salo on rent so that they can fit to a certain lifestyle.
Meanwhile there is dude in Eastlands with 4 butcheries each making a net of 10 k per day......
Obviously there are more people in Eastlands who can pay for Zuku..as well.
Btw Riyaz for the longest I have been promised Thika Road...as well
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Claire Njoki < clairenjoki@gmail.com > wrote:
Guys,
Another thing I do not get is why this service should be rolled out to a dude living in lavington on one acre in a leafy estate, with his wife, one dog and a mboch (who thinks that internet is an advanced fishing net). The dude will pay wananchi Ksh. 3,499...well and good...but..
...On the other side of town, somewhere in Eastlands...the same one acre of land can accomodate 100 potential customers, housed vertically, who can also afford to pay Ksh. 3,499...
In other words:
Lavington's 1 acre = Ksh.3,499 monthly income for wananchi online Eastlands' 1 acre = Ksh.349,900 monthly income for wananchi online (100 x 3,499)
I mean even of you charged each dude in eastlands Ksh. 100 you will still make Sh. 10,000 (which is even more than what you are getting from the lavington dude)
That is why Equity Bank came and overtook those other bank that thought they were too ritzy for the common mwananchi.
Claire.
On 12/2/10, Dennis Kioko < dmbuvi@gmail.com > wrote:
What about on Msa road, estates around Msa round like South C , South B, Imara Daima, Embakasi et al, I have seen the wire that holds the fibre, but not the fibre on the elec poles?
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On 2 December 2010 22:35, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
I was reading about Aaron Patzer the former owner of mint.com (sold to Intuit for 170 M usd) he said one of the things that makes a successful business is make a product that can be sold to very many people......so claire is very right.
Indeed true, but at the end of the day, I believe all companies have to start from somewhere. Companies like KDN started the Fibre roll-out with the Nairobi CBD. Look at them now, a few years later, they've got an East African Network. The journey of a thousand miles will always start with the first step. -- *./ TJ*
Just off track a bit. To Claire, I also feel like clicking though not an Eastland inhabitant. I think Zuku promised to expand to other places in the near future(check on archives) but the time frame was not provided. If we are to complement the Govt's effort of making Kenya a middle level income come 2030, then the expansion of this ambitious project should be extended to places as far as Thika, Kajiado, Naivasha etc, unless Wananchi are doing it as a pilot project. BTW, what is the company laying the fibre optic at Waiyaki Way? This morning they are at around CCK area and have a striking tagline: '...this is not a project, it's a revolution'. So may the internet 'revolution' begin. On 01/12/2010, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
@Riyaz Am currently on zuku biz getting 10Mbps and am happy. I was told the fiber am on is not HFC ready. Am located at rahimtulla towers, when do i expect to have zuku tv there?
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Claire Njoki -
Daudi Were -
David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd -
Dennis Kioko -
Job Muriuki -
Joseph McDonald -
Laban Mwangi -
Mark Mwangi -
Riyaz Bachani -
Ronoh Kibet Ean. -
Solomon Mburu Kamau -
TJ -
Watson Kambo