HI skunks I need a student or an IT personel for two days to do some formating to old machines that need to be donated else where. pay is 500 per day area of operation, westlands ten steps walking distance from the bus stop. interview; tuma ombi lako kwa anwani yangu binafsi. dont post it here first send first serve basis. -- "I think the purpose of life is to be useful, to be responsible, to be honorable, to be compassionate. It is, after all, to matter: to count, to stand for something, to have made some difference that you lived at all.”
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:43 PM, maina martin <martinafrique@gmail.com>wrote:
HI
skunks I need a student or an IT personel for two days to do some formating to old machines that need to be donated else where.
pay is 500 per day area of operation, westlands ten steps walking distance from the bus stop.
interview; tuma ombi lako kwa anwani yangu binafsi. dont post it here
first send first serve basis.
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in either way the pay should be per a machine! please let's appreciate one another with a relevant pay! On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:43 PM, maina martin <martinafrique@gmail.com>wrote:
HI wit
skunks I need a student or an IT personel for two days to do some formating to old machines that need to be donated else where.
pay is 500 per day area of operation, westlands ten steps walking distance from the bus stop.
interview; tuma ombi lako kwa anwani yangu binafsi. dont post it here
first send first serve basis.
-- "I think the purpose of life is to be useful, to be responsible, to be honorable, to be compassionate. It is, after all, to matter: to count, to stand for something, to have made some difference that you lived at all.”
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2500 ?? wow ... On 13 April 2011 21:04, mwei gideon <mweigideon@gmail.com> wrote:
in either way the pay should be per a machine! please let's appreciate one another with a relevant pay!
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:43 PM, maina martin <martinafrique@gmail.com>wrote:
HI wit
skunks I need a student or an IT personel for two days to do some formating to old machines that need to be donated else where.
pay is 500 per day area of operation, westlands ten steps walking distance from the bus stop.
interview; tuma ombi lako kwa anwani yangu binafsi. dont post it here
first send first serve basis.
-- "I think the purpose of life is to be useful, to be responsible, to be honorable, to be compassionate. It is, after all, to matter: to count, to stand for something, to have made some difference that you lived at all.”
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How does one come up with a figure of 2500 kes as the price of formatting? What effort/skill do you need to format a box that commands such a fee? Tukuweni serious. Kiania On 14 Apr 2011 2:19 AM, "Watson Kambo" <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote: 2500 ?? wow ... On 13 April 2011 21:04, mwei gideon <mweigideon@gmail.com> wrote:
in either way the pay should...
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@Kiania mostly the ignorance of the client. On Apr 14, 2011 4:30 AM, "David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd" < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
How does one come up with a figure of 2500 kes as the price of formatting?
What effort/skill do you need to format a box that commands such a fee?
Tukuweni serious.
Kiania
On 14 Apr 2011 2:19 AM, "Watson Kambo" <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
2500 ?? wow ...
On 13 April 2011 21:04, mwei gideon <mweigideon@gmail.com> wrote:
in either way the pay should...
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk! Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
I'm inclined to conclude that all techies left and whiners reign supreme. On Apr 13, 2011 11:05 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
I totally agree with you Areba On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm inclined to conclude that all techies left and whiners reign supreme.
On Apr 13, 2011 11:05 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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We the techies have a skill that shud cater for our needs. why do we nyima ourselves?? When you take your TV to the fundi and he replaces just a small wire or solders an IC smthing that takes less than a minute and he charges you up to 5k... you pay without complaint coz its a skill he has and you dont and you need that persons skill to fix your TV!! Same applies for IT skill... my thots ... ama?? On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Were <nafuna@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with you Areba
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm inclined to conclude that all techies left and whiners reign supreme.
On Apr 13, 2011 11:05 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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You are so right Ruth.why should we techies be exploited.We should use our skills and make a meaningful leaving out of them. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Ruth Were <nafuna@gmail.com> wrote:
We the techies have a skill that shud cater for our needs. why do we nyima ourselves?? When you take your TV to the fundi and he replaces just a small wire or solders an IC smthing that takes less than a minute and he charges you up to 5k... you pay without complaint coz its a skill he has and you dont and you need that persons skill to fix your TV!! Same applies for IT skill... my thots ... ama??
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Were <nafuna@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with you Areba
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm inclined to conclude that all techies left and whiners reign supreme.
On Apr 13, 2011 11:05 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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But 500 per day is a little too mean yawa!! On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
You are so right Ruth.why should we techies be exploited.We should use our skills and make a meaningful leaving out of them.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Ruth Were <nafuna@gmail.com> wrote:
We the techies have a skill that shud cater for our needs. why do we nyima ourselves?? When you take your TV to the fundi and he replaces just a small wire or solders an IC smthing that takes less than a minute and he charges you up to 5k... you pay without complaint coz its a skill he has and you dont and you need that persons skill to fix your TV!! Same applies for IT skill... my thots ... ama??
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Were <nafuna@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with you Areba
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm inclined to conclude that all techies left and whiners reign supreme.
On Apr 13, 2011 11:05 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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@Ndegwa True but 2500 per machine is not the way to do it...Neither is 500 per day.... On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
You are so right Ruth.why should we techies be exploited.We should use our skills and make a meaningful leaving out of them.
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IT all depends how much you value your time,skills and the client, "kila punda inabei yake, " thats what they say in a donkey market. I'll charge you more than 2500 to connect your mouse Regards Jared Koyier On 14 April 2011 11:02, @dutchezjuma <dutchez8@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ndegwa True but 2500 per machine is not the way to do it...Neither is 500 per day....
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You are so right Ruth.why should we techies be exploited.We should use our skills and make a meaningful leaving out of them.
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No matter how long a job should take, charge what you think is worth your effort. To some 500/- is good, to others 2500 is better. May it be known that the guys who do the most tedious recieve the least pay. Look at all sectors from your office, to the guy who helps you carry sacks of maize at Marigiti. In simple terms, justify why you should be paid what you ask for. /Bonz On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
You are so right Ruth.why should we techies be exploited.We should use our skills and make a meaningful leaving out of them.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Ruth Were <nafuna@gmail.com> wrote:
We the techies have a skill that shud cater for our needs. why do we nyima ourselves?? When you take your TV to the fundi and he replaces just a small wire or solders an IC smthing that takes less than a minute and he charges you up to 5k... you pay without complaint coz its a skill he has and you dont and you need that persons skill to fix your TV!! Same applies for IT skill... my thots ... ama??
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Were <nafuna@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with you Areba
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm inclined to conclude that all techies left and whiners reign supreme.
On Apr 13, 2011 11:05 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
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There is a campus student somewhere with 2 free days, maybe not even a techie, who can do with that 500 per day, I certainly would have responded and someone probably already did. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
No matter how long a job should take, charge what you think is worth your effort. To some 500/- is good, to others 2500 is better. May it be known that the guys who do the most tedious recieve the least pay. Look at all sectors from your office, to the guy who helps you carry sacks of maize at Marigiti. In simple terms, justify why you should be paid what you ask for.
/Bonz
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com>wrote:
You are so right Ruth.why should we techies be exploited.We should use our skills and make a meaningful leaving out of them.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Ruth Were <nafuna@gmail.com> wrote:
We the techies have a skill that shud cater for our needs. why do we nyima ourselves?? When you take your TV to the fundi and he replaces just a small wire or solders an IC smthing that takes less than a minute and he charges you up to 5k... you pay without complaint coz its a skill he has and you dont and you need that persons skill to fix your TV!! Same applies for IT skill... my thots ... ama??
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Were <nafuna@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with you Areba
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm inclined to conclude that all techies left and whiners reign supreme.
On Apr 13, 2011 11:05 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
> Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine. >
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
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What are you guys making noise about todays' graduates are coming fully loaded. An entreprenuer friend of mine told me of a time a newbie from campus laid it to him what they are doing wrong and what they MUST do to start growing otherwise they die. If they charge 2500 per machine to format they must be applying the same rate in dollars per minute for strategy cum profit improvement. On 14 Apr 2011 4:15 PM, "Joram Mwinamo" <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote: There is a campus student somewhere with 2 free days, maybe not even a techie, who can do with that 500 per day, I certainly would have responded and someone probably already did. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
No matter how long a job...
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I guess as long as there is someone for whom that Kshs 500 means food for a week or 25 percent of his rent, we can complain all we want but things will remain the same. But we IT professionals do ourselves disservice. Dishing out free consultation everywhere. If lawyers and doctors operated the same way, it would be a better world :-) Opensource everywhere.... On 4/14/11, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
What are you guys making noise about todays' graduates are coming fully loaded.
An entreprenuer friend of mine told me of a time a newbie from campus laid it to him what they are doing wrong and what they MUST do to start growing otherwise they die.
If they charge 2500 per machine to format they must be applying the same rate in dollars per minute for strategy cum profit improvement.
On 14 Apr 2011 4:15 PM, "Joram Mwinamo" <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a campus student somewhere with 2 free days, maybe not even a techie, who can do with that 500 per day, I certainly would have responded and someone probably already did.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
No matter how long a job...
-- Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© -------------------------------------------------------------------- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us.There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically liberates others.
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If it was those days when I was at Chiromo campus, I would have willingly taken the money coz I would have walked to Westlands for the 2 days, pocket my 1k, which would have kept me going for about a week or more, in addition to leaving my contact there. Antony
Anto; You come off as the smartest skunk. While others criticize and ostracize, you view this as an introductory pay to greater involvement and probably renegotiation of terms. Thats an attitude we as Kenyans lack. I know thats why theres all the joblessness and hopelessness around because we choose. Peter On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:28 PM, ANTONY NDUNG'U <tmndungu@gmail.com> wrote:
If it was those days when I was at Chiromo campus, I would have willingly taken the money coz I would have walked to Westlands for the 2 days, pocket my 1k, which would have kept me going for about a week or more, in addition to leaving my contact there.
Antony
So do you have a benchmark? Suppose I format one machine the whole day will I still get paid ? All in all 500k per day is really really cheap donation or not. I hope your giving them lunch also. On 15 April 2011 12:36, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Anto;
You come off as the smartest skunk. While others criticize and ostracize, you view this as an introductory pay to greater involvement and probably renegotiation of terms. Thats an attitude we as Kenyans lack. I know thats why theres all the joblessness and hopelessness around because we choose.
Peter
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:28 PM, ANTONY NDUNG'U <tmndungu@gmail.com>wrote:
If it was those days when I was at Chiromo campus, I would have willingly taken the money coz I would have walked to Westlands for the 2 days, pocket my 1k, which would have kept me going for about a week or more, in addition to leaving my contact there.
Antony
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i want that job. contact me off list whoever is offering the same for more details. On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
So do you have a benchmark? Suppose I format one machine the whole day will I still get paid ? All in all 500k per day is really really cheap donation or not. I hope your giving them lunch also.
On 15 April 2011 12:36, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Anto;
You come off as the smartest skunk. While others criticize and ostracize, you view this as an introductory pay to greater involvement and probably renegotiation of terms. Thats an attitude we as Kenyans lack. I know thats why theres all the joblessness and hopelessness around because we choose.
Peter
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:28 PM, ANTONY NDUNG'U <tmndungu@gmail.com>wrote:
If it was those days when I was at Chiromo campus, I would have willingly taken the money coz I would have walked to Westlands for the 2 days, pocket my 1k, which would have kept me going for about a week or more, in addition to leaving my contact there.
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On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 17:38, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
So do you have a benchmark? Suppose I format one machine the whole day will I still get paid ? All in all 500k per day is really really cheap donation or not. I hope your giving them lunch also.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 500k/day is really really cheap? 500k?? :) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
Bottom Line .. I would not pay 2500 per PC to format ... and I would be happy to take up that job for 500 if I was in Campus ... but this is what I would do Format 1 Machine per day then go home ... :-) On 16 April 2011 15:22, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 17:38, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
So do you have a benchmark? Suppose I format one machine the whole day will I still get paid ? All in all 500k per day is really really cheap donation or not. I hope your giving them lunch also.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 500k/day is really really cheap? 500k?? :)
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My advice is if you are a student, take the job...you never know what is in store for you. Some times money is not everything. Plus it is easier to negotiate when you are in than when you are out. On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Bottom Line .. I would not pay 2500 per PC to format ... and I would be happy to take up that job for 500 if I was in Campus ... but this is what I would do Format 1 Machine per day then go home ... :-)
On 16 April 2011 15:22, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 17:38, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
So do you have a benchmark? Suppose I format one machine the whole day will I still get paid ? All in all 500k per day is really really cheap donation or not. I hope your giving them lunch also.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 500k/day is really really cheap? 500k?? :)
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Many people forget that to make money,you need more than just knowledge and skill. Infact if you only depend on your knowledge and skill the amount of money you can make will be limited and with time even the amount will go down. Sometimes I feel IT skills are overated...seriously how hard is it to format a machine? How many people have seen this equation for making money. E = (Fm ((xi)a y))G. E= The amount of money you can make X= Knowledge and Skill Y= Capital I= Innovation a= Vision/Focus/Attitude/Determination (Human values that make a difference) M= Market (creating your own market) F= Information (Information is a function of the market) G= Governance (Honesty/Accountability and Transperancy. Now the 500 is only for knowledge and skill (the X in the equation) The young guy can still make alot of cash if he uses the rest of the variables in the equation. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
My advice is if you are a student, take the job...you never know what is in store for you. Some times money is not everything.
Plus it is easier to negotiate when you are in than when you are out.
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Bottom Line .. I would not pay 2500 per PC to format ... and I would be happy to take up that job for 500 if I was in Campus ... but this is what I would do Format 1 Machine per day then go home ... :-)
On 16 April 2011 15:22, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 17:38, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
So do you have a benchmark? Suppose I format one machine the whole day will I still get paid ? All in all 500k per day is really really cheap donation or not. I hope your giving them lunch also.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 500k/day is really really cheap? 500k?? :)
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So Mr Joseph after using your formula are you wealthy by any standard,and I mean using Mr Angote(richest man in Africa)as a barometer of wealth.If you are then bravo.if not please don't underrate IT skills in a forum like this. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
Many people forget that to make money,you need more than just knowledge and skill. Infact if you only depend on your knowledge and skill the amount of money you can make will be limited and with time even the amount will go down. Sometimes I feel IT skills are overated...seriously how hard is it to format a machine?
How many people have seen this equation for making money.
E = (Fm ((xi)a y))G.
E= The amount of money you can make X= Knowledge and Skill Y= Capital I= Innovation a= Vision/Focus/Attitude/Determination (Human values that make a difference) M= Market (creating your own market) F= Information (Information is a function of the market) G= Governance (Honesty/Accountability and Transperancy.
Now the 500 is only for knowledge and skill (the X in the equation)
The young guy can still make alot of cash if he uses the rest of the variables in the equation.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
My advice is if you are a student, take the job...you never know what is in store for you. Some times money is not everything.
Plus it is easier to negotiate when you are in than when you are out.
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Bottom Line .. I would not pay 2500 per PC to format ... and I would be happy to take up that job for 500 if I was in Campus ... but this is what I would do Format 1 Machine per day then go home ... :-)
On 16 April 2011 15:22, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 17:38, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
So do you have a benchmark? Suppose I format one machine the whole day will I still get paid ? All in all 500k per day is really really cheap donation or not. I hope your giving them lunch also.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 500k/day is really really cheap? 500k?? :)
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 09:08, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
So Mr Joseph after using your formula are you wealthy by any standard,and I mean using Mr Angote(richest man in Africa)as a barometer of wealth.If you are then bravo.if not please don't underrate IT skills in a forum like this.
Which Angote is this? I always thought Kirubi, Jimnah Mbaru, akina UK are the richest! This Angote name sounds Kenyan, from ingo, but how comes I have never heard about him? Mr. Joseph is wealthy. He own the whole of BBD!! I know him, trust me. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
Hehehe, McD is The Don! ./Ok3ch On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 09:08, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
So Mr Joseph after using your formula are you wealthy by any standard,and I mean using Mr Angote(richest man in Africa)as a barometer of wealth.If you are then bravo.if not please don't underrate IT skills in a forum like this.
Which Angote is this? I always thought Kirubi, Jimnah Mbaru, akina UK are the richest! This Angote name sounds Kenyan, from ingo, but how comes I have never heard about him? Mr. Joseph is wealthy. He own the whole of BBD!! I know him, trust me.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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Hehehe, McD is The Don!
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 09:08, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
So Mr Joseph after using your formula are you wealthy by any standard,and I mean using Mr Angote(richest man in Africa)as a barometer of wealth.If you are then bravo.if not please don't underrate IT skills in a forum like this.
Which Angote is this? I always thought Kirubi, Jimnah Mbaru, akina UK are the richest! This Angote name sounds Kenyan, from ingo, but how comes I have never heard about him? Mr. Joseph is wealthy. He own the whole of BBD!! I know him, trust me.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 17:57, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Angote is richer than many american billionaires including Donald trump. He is Nigerian.
Then he should become the president of Africa! Ni mluhya alihamia Nija? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
Actually i misspelled his name.His full names are Aliko Dangote,a Nigerian.He is the owner of the Dangote group and his networth is US$ 13.8 billion. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 17:57, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Angote is richer than many american billionaires including Donald trump. He is Nigerian.
Then he should become the president of Africa!
Ni mluhya alihamia Nija?
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@ Robert Ndegwa wealth is relative..... That is why in the equation E= what you want to make.... because its not a competition.....there will always be people above you or under you. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually i misspelled his name.His full names are Aliko Dangote,a Nigerian.He is the owner of the Dangote group and his networth is US$ 13.8 billion.
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 17:57, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Angote is richer than many american billionaires including Donald trump. He is Nigerian.
Then he should become the president of Africa!
Ni mluhya alihamia Nija?
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is the offer still there On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
My advice is if you are a student, take the job...you never know what is in store for you. Some times money is not everything.
Plus it is easier to negotiate when you are in than when you are out.
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Bottom Line .. I would not pay 2500 per PC to format ... and I would be happy to take up that job for 500 if I was in Campus ... but this is what I would do Format 1 Machine per day then go home ... :-)
On 16 April 2011 15:22, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 17:38, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
So do you have a benchmark? Suppose I format one machine the whole day will I still get paid ? All in all 500k per day is really really cheap donation or not. I hope your giving them lunch also.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 500k/day is really really cheap? 500k?? :)
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Skunks, As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that job was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house. Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations. James On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com <mailto:bobwaire@gmail.com>> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
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But why is it that techies are underpaid? Is it that the market is saturated, or the job is just too easy that users can employ a DIY approach to doing some of our work?? Or should I have started another thread? :-P On 14 April 2011 12:21, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that job was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house.
Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations.
James
On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
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@ James - this mkt is also over flooded hence undervaluement. I won't be surprised if this guy is even sub contracting :-) LOL!! On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that job was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house.
Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations.
James
On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
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I don't think this market is over-flooded, techies are just not respected and they should be. 1st how many comps needs to be formatted?? and 500/- per day is not worth a techie's time FULLSTOP. be it a student who need money or not, its fully exploration. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
@ James - this mkt is also over flooded hence undervaluement.
I won't be surprised if this guy is even sub contracting :-) LOL!!
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that job was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house.
Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations.
James
On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
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exploration => exploitation? On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Bonny . <bonny2030@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think this market is over-flooded, techies are just not respected and they should be. 1st how many comps needs to be formatted?? and 500/- per day is not worth a techie's time FULLSTOP. be it a student who need money or not, its fully exploration.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
@ James - this mkt is also over flooded hence undervaluement.
I won't be surprised if this guy is even sub contracting :-) LOL!!
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that job was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house.
Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations.
James
On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
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Key points: cost of entry to be a tecnician vs to be a techie number of technicians vs number of techies
@Arthur Nice story, you are Mutahi Nguyi of the Skunk community. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Key points: cost of entry to be a tecnician vs to be a techie number of technicians vs number of techies
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Who thinks this discussion is similar to ones few months back about a starting salon of 15k? If not do the maths. On Apr 14, 2011 1:21 PM, "skunk works" <skunkworks100@gmail.com> wrote:
@Arthur Nice story, you are Mutahi Nguyi of the Skunk community.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Key points: cost of entry to be a tecnician vs to be a techie number of technicians vs number of techies
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@ James where do plumbers come into this forum now? LOL !! On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:49 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Who thinks this discussion is similar to ones few months back about a starting salon of 15k? If not do the maths.
On Apr 14, 2011 1:21 PM, "skunk works" <skunkworks100@gmail.com> wrote:
@Arthur Nice story, you are Mutahi Nguyi of the Skunk community.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Key points: cost of entry to be a tecnician vs to be a techie number of technicians vs number of techies
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@Alvin, I doubt if there are more IT technicians than plumbers... On 4/14/2011 12:40 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng wrote:
@ James - this mkt is also over flooded hence undervaluement.
I won't be surprised if this guy is even sub contracting :-) LOL!!
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, James Kagwe<kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that job was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house.
Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations.
James
On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa<bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
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James, This is the story of the giant ship engine that failed. The ship’s owners tried one expert after another, but none of them could figure but how to fix the engine. Then they brought in an old man who had been fixing ships since he was a youngster. He carried a large bag of tools with him, and when he arrived, he immediately went to work. He inspected the engine very carefully, top to bottom. Two of the ship’s owners were there, watching this man, hoping he would know what to do. After looking things over, the old man reached into his bag and pulled out a small hammer. He gently tapped something. Instantly, the engine lurched into life. He carefully put his hammer away. The engine was fixed! A week later, the owners received a bill from the old man for ten thousand dollars. “What?!” the owners exclaimed. ” He hardly did anything!” So they wrote the old man a note saying, “Please send us an itemized bill.” The man sent a bill that read: Tapping with a hammer $2.00 Knowing where to tap $9998.00 --- Think about that On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 12:21 +0300, James Kagwe wrote:
Skunks,
As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that job was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house.
Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations.
James
On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote: Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Everyone agrees 500 per day for formatting is a pittance. We should all agree too that techies are their own worst enemies. If today I pass over a job because you are offering me 5K for a job worth 10K, there is a hungry techie willing to do it at 3K, and yet another one willing to 'ho' it for 2K..So why should I be paid 10K? If we all stuck to our guns like your plumber, perhaps we would be a happier lot, and so would our plumbers. Food for thought: -There are far less plumbers than there are techies.....and they know it too :) So, if your local plumber demands 2K to fix your tap, format machines for 4 days. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that job was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house.
Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations.
James
On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
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@ George...all I can say is PAP !!! On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:30 PM, george <theonlydamnedavailablename@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone agrees 500 per day for formatting is a pittance.
We should all agree too that techies are their own worst enemies. If today I pass over a job because you are offering me 5K for a job worth 10K, there is a hungry techie willing to do it at 3K, and yet another one willing to 'ho' it for 2K..So why should I be paid 10K?
If we all stuck to our guns like your plumber, perhaps we would be a happier lot, and so would our plumbers.
Food for thought:
-There are far less plumbers than there are techies.....and they know it too :) So, if your local plumber demands 2K to fix your tap, format machines for 4 days.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that job was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house.
Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations.
James
On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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This thread ressembles another one where the general feeling was that techies were a misused lot. In many companies, IT managers end up doing stuff like helping format word documents, fix an electric fault etc. Instead of coming up with innovative solutions, all their time is taken up doing stuff they shouldn't be doing. Thats why most companies can afford to stay without an IT dept or even IT personnel since the previous one only formatted word documents and most other problems are sorted by their ISPs. If Martin threatens his ISP that he will move to the competition, I guess they will format his computers free of charge and not employ a single person or the two ladies proposed. /Bonz On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
@ George...all I can say is PAP !!!
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:30 PM, george <theonlydamnedavailablename@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone agrees 500 per day for formatting is a pittance.
We should all agree too that techies are their own worst enemies. If today I pass over a job because you are offering me 5K for a job worth 10K, there is a hungry techie willing to do it at 3K, and yet another one willing to 'ho' it for 2K..So why should I be paid 10K?
If we all stuck to our guns like your plumber, perhaps we would be a happier lot, and so would our plumbers.
Food for thought:
-There are far less plumbers than there are techies.....and they know it too :) So, if your local plumber demands 2K to fix your tap, format machines for 4 days.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that
job
was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house.
Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations.
James
On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Hehehe... I thought I was the only one who gets handed cellphones to help a "user" delete unwanted music and folders from their phones, among other jaw-dropping requests... On 14 April 2011 16:48, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
This thread ressembles another one where the general feeling was that techies were a misused lot. In many companies, IT managers end up doing stuff like helping format word documents, fix an electric fault etc. Instead of coming up with innovative solutions, all their time is taken up doing stuff they shouldn't be doing. Thats why most companies can afford to stay without an IT dept or even IT personnel since the previous one only formatted word documents and most other problems are sorted by their ISPs.
If Martin threatens his ISP that he will move to the competition, I guess they will format his computers free of charge and not employ a single person or the two ladies proposed.
/Bonz
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
@ George...all I can say is PAP !!!
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:30 PM, george <theonlydamnedavailablename@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone agrees 500 per day for formatting is a pittance.
We should all agree too that techies are their own worst enemies. If today I pass over a job because you are offering me 5K for a job worth 10K, there is a hungry techie willing to do it at 3K, and yet another one willing to 'ho' it for 2K..So why should I be paid 10K?
If we all stuck to our guns like your plumber, perhaps we would be a happier lot, and so would our plumbers.
Food for thought:
-There are far less plumbers than there are techies.....and they know it too :) So, if your local plumber demands 2K to fix your tap, format machines for 4 days.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that
job
was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house.
Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations.
James
On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Is the 2,500 Kenya shillings or Uganda shillings? Timo. On 4/14/11, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehehe... I thought I was the only one who gets handed cellphones to help a "user" delete unwanted music and folders from their phones, among other jaw-dropping requests...
On 14 April 2011 16:48, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
This thread ressembles another one where the general feeling was that techies were a misused lot. In many companies, IT managers end up doing stuff like helping format word documents, fix an electric fault etc. Instead of coming up with innovative solutions, all their time is taken up doing stuff they shouldn't be doing. Thats why most companies can afford to stay without an IT dept or even IT personnel since the previous one only formatted word documents and most other problems are sorted by their ISPs.
If Martin threatens his ISP that he will move to the competition, I guess they will format his computers free of charge and not employ a single person or the two ladies proposed.
/Bonz
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
@ George...all I can say is PAP !!!
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:30 PM, george <theonlydamnedavailablename@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone agrees 500 per day for formatting is a pittance.
We should all agree too that techies are their own worst enemies. If today I pass over a job because you are offering me 5K for a job worth 10K, there is a hungry techie willing to do it at 3K, and yet another one willing to 'ho' it for 2K..So why should I be paid 10K?
If we all stuck to our guns like your plumber, perhaps we would be a happier lot, and so would our plumbers.
Food for thought:
-There are far less plumbers than there are techies.....and they know it too :) So, if your local plumber demands 2K to fix your tap, format machines for 4 days.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
As we argue about pay to format a computer, I bought an electric water pump this weekend for an apartment for 5K and on contacting a plumber / electrician to fix it he said he can only do it for 2K. I thought that
job
was worth 500 at most. The guy refused and the pump is still lying in my house.
Question? Btn a plumber and a technician who has more skill or valuable skills for that matter? How long will it take to fix an electric pump compared to formatting a computer? IT people really undervalue their skills. No wonder we will never be at per with CFO's in terms of pay yet it is the technology that's driving modern organizations.
James
On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:43, Robert Ndegwa <bobwaire@gmail.com> wrote:
Formatting is 2500/= on average per machine.
woWWWW. It takes about 1 minute to delete all partitions on a disk!
Can someone explain how this fomatingwhic costs 2,500/= per machine is done? Low level?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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Hi Martin, .... Hope your vacancy hasn't been taken up already. Got two competent girls interested, both students at KU, comp science: Evelyn Mwangi: muthoni90@gmail.com , 0711 995 601 Mercy Orangi: mercyorangi@gmail.com , 0710 377 694 .... looking forward to your reply. Have yourself a good day.
Hope these gals dont have unlimited unsolicited offers. Techies never The message was best sent private . Kiania On 14 Apr 2011 6:31 PM, "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Martin, .... Hope your vacancy hasn't been taken up already. Got two competent girls interested, both students at KU, comp science: Evelyn Mwangi: muthoni90@gmail.com , 0711 995 601 Mercy Orangi: mercyorangi@gmail.com , 0710 377 694 .... looking forward to your reply. Have yourself a good day. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ht...
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