Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) -- Walter Nyamweya
You will have to ask this question again in a smarter way, boss. We are not your researchers. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
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i just want someone to compare the two based on the parameters given.i am new on this and am not an expert,thats why i asked and i think am asking experts here and not showing wits or something. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
You will have to ask this question again in a smarter way, boss.
We are not your researchers.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
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What you say holds true, but what is VoIP here? E1 we know, and if you search the archives of this list you will find the costs. In summary, the service providers in KE charge an average of 30k monthly standing fee for an E1. That's besides your call charges. That is also besides the installation fees. What your perspective of VoIP is is what I don't understand, so I still insist you cover this with details. Well, the experts here may hold different view and answer to VoIP in it's broad meaning - not limited in any way. For me, I'll say VoIP is way cheaper because there is no standing fee of 30k for the VoIP line :-) That is cost. Benefits and Implications - that is a wide one. I leave it to the rest unless you give me a scenario. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
i just want someone to compare the two based on the parameters given.i am new on this and am not an expert,thats why i asked and i think am asking experts here and not showing wits or something.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
You will have to ask this question again in a smarter way, boss.
We are not your researchers.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
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so now how is VOIP billed? On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
What you say holds true, but what is VoIP here?
E1 we know, and if you search the archives of this list you will find the costs. In summary, the service providers in KE charge an average of 30k monthly standing fee for an E1. That's besides your call charges. That is also besides the installation fees.
What your perspective of VoIP is is what I don't understand, so I still insist you cover this with details.
Well, the experts here may hold different view and answer to VoIP in it's broad meaning - not limited in any way.
For me, I'll say VoIP is way cheaper because there is no standing fee of 30k for the VoIP line :-)
That is cost.
Benefits and Implications - that is a wide one. I leave it to the rest unless you give me a scenario.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
i just want someone to compare the two based on the parameters given.i am new on this and am not an expert,thats why i asked and i think am asking experts here and not showing wits or something.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
You will have to ask this question again in a smarter way, boss.
We are not your researchers.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
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Depends on the provider rates for each destination. Corporate VoIP (where you own and run either a central PBX or distributed PBXs across the corporate WAN) is not billed. You just pay for your WAN links. If you lease VoIP trunks from a provider, then really, it depends on your agreement with them. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:45 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so now how is VOIP billed?
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
What you say holds true, but what is VoIP here?
E1 we know, and if you search the archives of this list you will find the costs. In summary, the service providers in KE charge an average of 30k monthly standing fee for an E1. That's besides your call charges. That is also besides the installation fees.
What your perspective of VoIP is is what I don't understand, so I still insist you cover this with details.
Well, the experts here may hold different view and answer to VoIP in it's broad meaning - not limited in any way.
For me, I'll say VoIP is way cheaper because there is no standing fee of 30k for the VoIP line :-)
That is cost.
Benefits and Implications - that is a wide one. I leave it to the rest unless you give me a scenario.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
i just want someone to compare the two based on the parameters given.i am new on this and am not an expert,thats why i asked and i think am asking experts here and not showing wits or something.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
You will have to ask this question again in a smarter way, boss.
We are not your researchers.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
-- Walter Nyamweya
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*so if i have a PBX and a WAN link means am good to go just the configurations,voip phones and may be changing the infrastructure of the organization need to be dealt with*. So lets say am making a call from my VOIP enabled phone to a mobile phone using any of the service providers we have around,will i be charged anything on it or just the said cost of acquiring my WAN links just apply?? sorry about my questions just need to understand VOIP... On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Depends on the provider rates for each destination.
Corporate VoIP (where you own and run either a central PBX or distributed PBXs across the corporate WAN) is not billed. You just pay for your WAN links.
If you lease VoIP trunks from a provider, then really, it depends on your agreement with them.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:45 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so now how is VOIP billed?
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
What you say holds true, but what is VoIP here?
E1 we know, and if you search the archives of this list you will find the costs. In summary, the service providers in KE charge an average of 30k monthly standing fee for an E1. That's besides your call charges. That is also besides the installation fees.
What your perspective of VoIP is is what I don't understand, so I still insist you cover this with details.
Well, the experts here may hold different view and answer to VoIP in it's broad meaning - not limited in any way.
For me, I'll say VoIP is way cheaper because there is no standing fee of 30k for the VoIP line :-)
That is cost.
Benefits and Implications - that is a wide one. I leave it to the rest unless you give me a scenario.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
i just want someone to compare the two based on the parameters given.i am new on this and am not an expert,thats why i asked and i think am asking experts here and not showing wits or something.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
You will have to ask this question again in a smarter way, boss.
We are not your researchers.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
-- Walter Nyamweya
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
*so if i have a PBX and a WAN link means am good to go just the configurations,voip phones and may be changing the infrastructure of the organization need to be dealt with*.
Yes. If your WAN links are stable enough, you can have a central PBX with IP Phones spread everywhere, all configured to register on the PBX.
So lets say am making a call from my VOIP enabled phone to a mobile phone using any of the service providers we have around,will i be charged anything on it or just the said cost of acquiring my WAN links just apply??
Your infrastructure MUST support the calls from your PBX to the GSM network. You will be charged the calls to the GSM network the usual way, depending on the package your SIM cards are running on.
sorry about my questions just need to understand VOIP...
VoIP is simply Voice over IP. How you implement it is what matters....
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Depends on the provider rates for each destination.
Corporate VoIP (where you own and run either a central PBX or distributed PBXs across the corporate WAN) is not billed. You just pay for your WAN links.
If you lease VoIP trunks from a provider, then really, it depends on your agreement with them.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:45 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so now how is VOIP billed?
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
What you say holds true, but what is VoIP here?
E1 we know, and if you search the archives of this list you will find the costs. In summary, the service providers in KE charge an average of 30k monthly standing fee for an E1. That's besides your call charges. That is also besides the installation fees.
What your perspective of VoIP is is what I don't understand, so I still insist you cover this with details.
Well, the experts here may hold different view and answer to VoIP in it's broad meaning - not limited in any way.
For me, I'll say VoIP is way cheaper because there is no standing fee of 30k for the VoIP line :-)
That is cost.
Benefits and Implications - that is a wide one. I leave it to the rest unless you give me a scenario.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
i just want someone to compare the two based on the parameters given.i am new on this and am not an expert,thats why i asked and i think am asking experts here and not showing wits or something.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
You will have to ask this question again in a smarter way, boss.
We are not your researchers.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the > cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) > > -- > Walter Nyamweya > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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This Company (Teslas Services <http://www.tesla.co.ke>) does that for telco's. You could ask them their opinion. Talk to one Sam Kiruka. Peter On 7/31/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't, but I know Safaricom does. I was almost deploying, but the cost was a bit on the higher side, and the aspect of owning the equipment wasn't interesting, though they can distribute the cost to several months. I don't know if there is any other CSP doing (assumming CSP == Communications Service Provider).
so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who provides the E1. I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone here is making assumptions. If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive you up the wall. hth gitau On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
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John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!! On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who provides the E1.
I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone here is making assumptions.
If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive you up the wall.
hth gitau
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
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I work for one of the biggest/famous call center in KE, get intouch with me. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!!
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who provides the E1.
I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone here is making assumptions.
If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive you up the wall.
hth gitau
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
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depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could very well be using some VoIP technology. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!!
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who provides the E1.
I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone here is making assumptions.
If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive you up the wall.
hth gitau
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
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in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation? On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could very well be using some VoIP technology.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!!
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who provides the E1.
I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone here is making assumptions.
If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive you up the wall.
hth gitau
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
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There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to implementation. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could very well be using some VoIP technology.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!!
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who provides the E1.
I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone here is making assumptions.
If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive you up the wall.
hth gitau
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
-- Walter Nyamweya
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so how much is it? On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to implementation.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could very well be using some VoIP technology.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!!
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who provides the E1.
I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone here is making assumptions.
If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive you up the wall.
hth gitau
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
-- Walter Nyamweya
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There is no cost indicator without specifics! On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so how much is it?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to implementation.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could very well be using some VoIP technology.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!!
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who provides the E1.
I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone here is making assumptions.
If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive you up the wall.
hth gitau
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the > cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) > > -- > Walter Nyamweya > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps.... On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
There is no cost indicator without specifics!
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so how much is it?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to implementation.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could very well be using some VoIP technology.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!!
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, > reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more > happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who > provides the E1. > > I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But > don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone > here is making assumptions. > > If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP > network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy > responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams > hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which > is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are > not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they > crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as > an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can > drive you up the wall. > > hth gitau > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the >> cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) >> >> -- >> Walter Nyamweya >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > **Gitau > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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And? On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps....
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
There is no cost indicator without specifics!
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so how much is it?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to implementation.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could very well be using some VoIP technology.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
> John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality > of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms > of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper > but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!! > > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>wrote: > >> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, >> reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more >> happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who >> provides the E1. >> >> I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But >> don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone >> here is making assumptions. >> >> If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP >> network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy >> responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams >> hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which >> is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are >> not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they >> crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as >> an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can >> drive you up the wall. >> >> hth gitau >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the >>> cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) >>> >>> -- >>> Walter Nyamweya >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> **Gitau >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Walter Nyamweya > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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and i already have a LAN in place,whats the cost now based on the facts above On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
And?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps....
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
There is no cost indicator without specifics!
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so how much is it?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to implementation.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
> depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just > guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I > suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it > guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could > very well be using some VoIP technology. > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: > >> John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality >> of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms >> of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper >> but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!! >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, >>> reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more >>> happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who >>> provides the E1. >>> >>> I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But >>> don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone >>> here is making assumptions. >>> >>> If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP >>> network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy >>> responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams >>> hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which >>> is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are >>> not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they >>> crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as >>> an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can >>> drive you up the wall. >>> >>> hth gitau >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know >>>> the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> **Gitau >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Walter Nyamweya >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > **Gitau > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Can you two kiss and make up, probably go on chat and get all requirements as may be needed! ./Ok3ch On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
And?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps....
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
There is no cost indicator without specifics!
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so how much is it?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to implementation.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote: > > depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just > guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I > suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it > guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could > very well be using some VoIP technology. > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality >> of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of >> quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but >> quality is not guaranteed???!!!!! >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, >>> reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more >>> happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who >>> provides the E1. >>> >>> I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But >>> don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone >>> here is making assumptions. >>> >>> If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP >>> network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy >>> responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams >>> hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which >>> is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not >>> very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop >>> up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an >>> application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive >>> you up the wall. >>> >>> hth gitau >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the >>>> cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> **Gitau >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Walter Nyamweya >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > -- > **Gitau > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Ok3ch, It's like a chat Window. The guy is feeding us with details like a biberon! Actually, we are not enemies, so need to kiss and make up:) On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you two kiss and make up, probably go on chat and get all requirements as may be needed!
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
And?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps....
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <
odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
There is no cost indicator without specifics!
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so how much is it?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to implementation.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: > > in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to > implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation? > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >> depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just >> guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I >> suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it >> guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could >> very well be using some VoIP technology. >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality >>> of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of >>> quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but >>> quality is not guaranteed???!!!!! >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, >>>> reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more >>>> happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who >>>> provides the E1. >>>> >>>> I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But >>>> don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone >>>> here is making assumptions. >>>> >>>> If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP >>>> network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy >>>> responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams >>>> hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which >>>> is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not >>>> very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop >>>> up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an >>>> application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive >>>> you up the wall. >>>> >>>> hth gitau >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the >>>>> cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> **Gitau >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Walter Nyamweya >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> >> -- >> **Gitau >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > -- > Walter Nyamweya > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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hahaha!biberon indeed! anyway just trying my best because am new in this tech sector so forgive my biberon tendensies :P On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Ok3ch,
It's like a chat Window.
The guy is feeding us with details like a biberon!
Actually, we are not enemies, so need to kiss and make up:)
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you two kiss and make up, probably go on chat and get all requirements as may be needed!
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
And?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps....
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <
odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
There is no cost indicator without specifics!
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so how much is it?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > > There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to
implementation.
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to >> implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation? >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just >>> guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I >>> suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it >>> guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could >>> very well be using some VoIP technology. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality >>>> of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of >>>> quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but >>>> quality is not guaranteed???!!!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, >>>>> reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more >>>>> happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who >>>>> provides the E1. >>>>> >>>>> I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But >>>>> don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone >>>>> here is making assumptions. >>>>> >>>>> If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP >>>>> network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy >>>>> responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams >>>>> hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which >>>>> is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not >>>>> very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop >>>>> up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an >>>>> application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive >>>>> you up the wall. >>>>> >>>>> hth gitau >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the >>>>>> cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> **Gitau >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> **Gitau >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Walter Nyamweya >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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yes but put yourself in our shoes...you want us to say it will cost you USD 200,000 <----> USD1000 depending on who does it, what they use etc... you have given nothing for anyone here to give an estimate. infact comparing voip to E1 is just weird considering VOIP can ride on an E1:-) .... if you want specifics, you have to input specifics. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
hahaha!biberon indeed! anyway just trying my best because am new in this tech sector so forgive my biberon tendensies :P
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Ok3ch,
It's like a chat Window.
The guy is feeding us with details like a biberon!
Actually, we are not enemies, so need to kiss and make up:)
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you two kiss and make up, probably go on chat and get all requirements as may be needed!
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
And?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps....
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <
odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
There is no cost indicator without specifics!
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: > > so how much is it? > > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington > <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to
implementation.
>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to >>> implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation? >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just >>>> guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I >>>> suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it >>>> guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could >>>> very well be using some VoIP technology. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality >>>>> of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of >>>>> quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but >>>>> quality is not guaranteed???!!!!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, >>>>>> reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more >>>>>> happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who >>>>>> provides the E1. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But >>>>>> don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone >>>>>> here is making assumptions. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP >>>>>> network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy >>>>>> responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams >>>>>> hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which >>>>>> is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not >>>>>> very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop >>>>>> up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an >>>>>> application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive >>>>>> you up the wall. >>>>>> >>>>>> hth gitau >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the >>>>>>> cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> **Gitau >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> **Gitau >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Walter Nyamweya >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > -- > Walter Nyamweya > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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Wazi John On 1 August 2012 11:51, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
yes but put yourself in our shoes...you want us to say it will cost you USD 200,000 <----> USD1000 depending on who does it, what they use etc... you have given nothing for anyone here to give an estimate. infact comparing voip to E1 is just weird considering VOIP can ride on an E1:-) .... if you want specifics, you have to input specifics.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
hahaha!biberon indeed! anyway just trying my best because am new in this tech sector so forgive my biberon tendensies :P
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok3ch,
It's like a chat Window.
The guy is feeding us with details like a biberon!
Actually, we are not enemies, so need to kiss and make up:)
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you two kiss and make up, probably go on chat and get all requirements as may be needed!
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
And?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps....
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > > There is no cost indicator without specifics! > > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> so how much is it? >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington >> <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to >>> implementation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost >>>> to >>>> implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really >>>>> just >>>>> guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but >>>>> and I >>>>> suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit >>>>> switching. it >>>>> guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream >>>>> provider could >>>>> very well be using some VoIP technology. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and >>>>>> quality >>>>>> of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is >>>>>> better in terms of >>>>>> quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much >>>>>> cheaper but >>>>>> quality is not guaranteed???!!!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, >>>>>>> reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find >>>>>>> alot more >>>>>>> happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction >>>>>>> depending on who >>>>>>> provides the E1. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. >>>>>>> But >>>>>>> don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, >>>>>>> almost everyone >>>>>>> here is making assumptions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an >>>>>>> IP >>>>>>> network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if >>>>>>> you are a guy >>>>>>> responsible for just buying something that works and your >>>>>>> technical teams >>>>>>> hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to >>>>>>> tell you which >>>>>>> is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. >>>>>>> Since you are not >>>>>>> very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues >>>>>>> if they crop >>>>>>> up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality >>>>>>> voip as an >>>>>>> application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues >>>>>>> that can drive >>>>>>> you up the wall. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hth gitau >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to >>>>>>>> know the >>>>>>>> cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> **Gitau >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> **Gitau >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Walter Nyamweya >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Am not a networkie (network techie) but I'd advise Wa to consider doing a survey first. You can contract these listers to help you draw up a spec list based on your requirements and their experience. Then with that you can very easily tender/source for vendors and/or quotes. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Jangita Nyagudi <jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com>wrote:
Wazi John
On 1 August 2012 11:51, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
yes but put yourself in our shoes...you want us to say it will cost you USD 200,000 <----> USD1000 depending on who does it, what they use etc... you have given nothing for anyone here to give an estimate. infact comparing voip to E1 is just weird considering VOIP can ride on an E1:-) .... if you want specifics, you have to input specifics.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
hahaha!biberon indeed! anyway just trying my best because am new in this tech sector so forgive my biberon tendensies :P
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Odhiambo Washington <
odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
Ok3ch,
It's like a chat Window.
The guy is feeding us with details like a biberon!
Actually, we are not enemies, so need to kiss and make up:)
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
wrote:
Can you two kiss and make up, probably go on chat and get all requirements as may be needed!
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
And?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: > > lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps.... > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington > <odhiambo@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> There is no cost indicator without specifics! >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> so how much is it? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington >>> <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to >>>> implementation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost >>>>> to >>>>> implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really >>>>>> just >>>>>> guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1.
but
>>>>>> and I >>>>>> suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit >>>>>> switching. it >>>>>> guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream >>>>>> provider could >>>>>> very well be using some VoIP technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and >>>>>>> quality >>>>>>> of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is >>>>>>> better in terms of >>>>>>> quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much >>>>>>> cheaper but >>>>>>> quality is not guaranteed???!!!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau < jgitau@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, >>>>>>>> reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find >>>>>>>> alot more >>>>>>>> happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction >>>>>>>> depending on who >>>>>>>> provides the E1. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. >>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>> don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, >>>>>>>> almost everyone >>>>>>>> here is making assumptions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an >>>>>>>> IP >>>>>>>> network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if >>>>>>>> you are a guy >>>>>>>> responsible for just buying something that works and your >>>>>>>> technical teams >>>>>>>> hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to >>>>>>>> tell you which >>>>>>>> is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. >>>>>>>> Since you are not >>>>>>>> very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues >>>>>>>> if they crop >>>>>>>> up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality >>>>>>>> voip as an >>>>>>>> application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues >>>>>>>> that can drive >>>>>>>> you up the wall. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hth gitau >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to >>>>>>>>> know the >>>>>>>>> cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> **Gitau >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> **Gitau >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>> Nairobi,KE >>>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>>> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Walter Nyamweya >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > -- > Walter Nyamweya > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Hehe this is fun. Let me try rephrase it for wash: How many users will be using this 'pbx' system? Concurrentrly? How fancy do you want your setup? If you have a LAN, who is the primary vendor? Any wan sites? Is it for primarily internal or external communication? Etc etc etc Sent from my iPad On 1 Aug 2012, at 11:12, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps....
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: There is no cost indicator without specifics!
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: so how much is it?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to implementation.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote: depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could very well be using some VoIP technology.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!!
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote: so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who provides the E1.
I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone here is making assumptions.
If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can drive you up the wall.
hth gitau
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:02 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehe this is fun. Let me try rephrase it for wash: How many users will be using this 'pbx' system?
40 users
Concurrentrly?
yes.
How fancy do you want your setup?
fancyness aint a key attribute here
If you have a LAN, who is the primary vendor?
access kenya
Any wan sites?
no
Is it for primarily internal or external communication? Etc etc etc
both internal and external communication
Sent from my iPad
On 1 Aug 2012, at 11:12, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps....
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
There is no cost indicator without specifics!
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so how much is it?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to implementation.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could very well be using some VoIP technology.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
> John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality > of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms > of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper > but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!! > > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>wrote: > >> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, >> reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more >> happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who >> provides the E1. >> >> I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But >> don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone >> here is making assumptions. >> >> If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP >> network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy >> responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams >> hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which >> is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are >> not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they >> crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as >> an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can >> drive you up the wall. >> >> hth gitau >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the >>> cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) >>> >>> -- >>> Walter Nyamweya >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> **Gitau >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Walter Nyamweya > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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on vendor i meant the equipment...cisco,huawei etc....why just in case you need qos we can help you appropriately. If you have access kenya for the LAN and no WAN? either way a simple instalation costing anywhere from 50K to infinity should sort you out. if you want solid quotes from actual guys who do them from the cheap to the expensive .. let me know..no i dont personally do voice stuff I engineer networks to support it. gitau On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:44 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:02 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehe this is fun. Let me try rephrase it for wash: How many users will be using this 'pbx' system?
40 users
Concurrentrly?
yes.
How fancy do you want your setup?
fancyness aint a key attribute here
If you have a LAN, who is the primary vendor?
access kenya
Any wan sites?
no
Is it for primarily internal or external communication? Etc etc etc
both internal and external communication
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On 1 Aug 2012, at 11:12, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps....
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
There is no cost indicator without specifics!
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
so how much is it?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to implementation.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost to implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation?
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
> depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really just > guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but and I > suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit switching. it > guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream provider could > very well be using some VoIP technology. > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: > >> John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and quality >> of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is better in terms >> of quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much cheaper >> but quality is not guaranteed???!!!!! >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality, >>> reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find alot more >>> happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction depending on who >>> provides the E1. >>> >>> I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP. But >>> don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment, almost everyone >>> here is making assumptions. >>> >>> If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an IP >>> network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if you are a guy >>> responsible for just buying something that works and your technical teams >>> hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to tell you which >>> is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1. Since you are >>> not very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues if they >>> crop up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality voip as >>> an application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues that can >>> drive you up the wall. >>> >>> hth gitau >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know >>>> the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Walter Nyamweya >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> **Gitau >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Walter Nyamweya >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > **Gitau > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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maybe you can tell us what you are trying to achieve, and we might be able to debate and assist using whichever technology... On 31 July 2012 12:12, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
-- Walter Nyamweya
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am trying to achieve efficiency,quality of service and cut down on cost incurred in making calls On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Jangita Nyagudi <jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com>wrote:
maybe you can tell us what you are trying to achieve, and we might be able to debate and assist using whichever technology...
On 31 July 2012 12:12, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
-- Walter Nyamweya
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You may also choose to go for SIP trunks which I believe are much cheaper than ISDn or E1 services. You can these services from MTN business but what is of interest is you then should have a very stable internet connection. me thoughts Oliver On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to know the cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
-- Walter Nyamweya
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