You can contract these listers to help you draw up a spec list based on your requirements and their experience. Then with that you can very easily tender/source for vendors and/or quotes.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Jangita Nyagudi <jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> wrote:

Wazi John

On 1 August 2012 11:51, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
> yes but put yourself in our shoes...you want us to say it will cost you
> USD 200,000 <----> USD1000 depending on who does it, what they use etc...
> you have given nothing for anyone here to give an estimate. infact comparing
> voip to E1 is just weird considering VOIP can ride on an E1:-) .... if you
> want specifics, you have to input specifics.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> hahaha!biberon indeed! anyway just trying my best because am new in this
>> tech sector so forgive my biberon tendensies :P
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok3ch,
>>>
>>> It's like a chat Window.
>>>
>>> The guy is feeding us with details like a biberon!
>>>
>>> Actually, we are not enemies, so need to kiss and make up:)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can you two kiss and make up, probably go on chat and get all
>>>> requirements as may be needed!
>>>>
>>>> ./Ok3ch
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington
>>>> <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > And?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> lets say i have the PBX system,WAN link of upto 1mbps....
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington
>>>> >> <odhiambo@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> There is no cost indicator without specifics!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> so how much is it?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Odhiambo Washington
>>>> >>>> <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> There is nothing like a "rough idea" when it comes to
>>>> >>>>> implementation.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> in terms of cost,who has a a rough idea on how much it can cost
>>>> >>>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>> implement VOIP,that is just the equipment and installation?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> depending on your configuration then yes an E1 (the E1 really
>>>> >>>>>>> just
>>>> >>>>>>> guarantees the bandwidth). ie you can run VOIP over the E1. but
>>>> >>>>>>> and I
>>>> >>>>>>> suspect this is what you mean; traditional pbx's used circuit
>>>> >>>>>>> switching. it
>>>> >>>>>>> guaranteed the conditions for a call. However your upstream
>>>> >>>>>>> provider could
>>>> >>>>>>> very well be using some VoIP technology.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> John, the environment we dealing with is a call center and
>>>> >>>>>>>> quality
>>>> >>>>>>>> of a call is key,from what you just stated the E1 line is
>>>> >>>>>>>> better in terms of
>>>> >>>>>>>> quality as compared to VOIP and on the other hand voip is much
>>>> >>>>>>>> cheaper but
>>>> >>>>>>>> quality is not guaranteed???!!!!!
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> so if you draw a table two by two then compare costs, quality,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> reliability and overall levels of satisfaction. you will find
>>>> >>>>>>>>> alot more
>>>> >>>>>>>>> happiness with an E1 on quality and general satisfaction
>>>> >>>>>>>>> depending on who
>>>> >>>>>>>>> provides the E1.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can guarantee an almost 80% reduction on costs with VOIP.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> But
>>>> >>>>>>>>> don't be hasty. And since we dont know your environment,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> almost everyone
>>>> >>>>>>>>> here is making assumptions.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you get an ISP or integrator or if you're lucky to have an
>>>> >>>>>>>>> IP
>>>> >>>>>>>>> network that exists and works. VOIP is your best bet. But if
>>>> >>>>>>>>> you are a guy
>>>> >>>>>>>>> responsible for just buying something that works and your
>>>> >>>>>>>>> technical teams
>>>> >>>>>>>>> hide and work when they feel like, and were not even able to
>>>> >>>>>>>>> tell you which
>>>> >>>>>>>>> is better before you wrote to skunkworks, insist on an E1.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Since you are not
>>>> >>>>>>>>> very tech. I assume you wont know how to deal with voip issues
>>>> >>>>>>>>> if they crop
>>>> >>>>>>>>> up. E1 is easy, is it up or down - for the most part? quality
>>>> >>>>>>>>> voip as an
>>>> >>>>>>>>> application suffers significant impact from small tiny issues
>>>> >>>>>>>>> that can drive
>>>> >>>>>>>>> you up the wall.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> hth gitau
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Afternoon guys,i need help on the subject above.I need to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> know the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> cost,benefits and implications (positive and negative)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Walter Nyamweya
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
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