
Hi everyone, would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www. My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment. The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction. If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :) Kebaya -- on a road less travelled

Good stuff! Wilson. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi everyone,
would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www.
My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment.
The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction.
If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites
Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment
If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :)
Kebaya
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I have a solution, contact me if interested. David. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi everyone,
would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www.
My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment.
The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction.
If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites
Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment
If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :)
Kebaya
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@David - Just to hijack this post abit: I have a Huawei Mi-Fi device and I want to be able to access Mpesa services from it without removing the SIM card and putting it on a phone, does your solution help in this, or is this actually possible ./Ok3ch On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:50 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a solution, contact me if interested.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,
would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www.
My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment.
The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction.
If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites
Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment
If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :)
Kebaya
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My solution is currently based on Symbian S60 devices. David. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@David - Just to hijack this post abit: I have a Huawei Mi-Fi device and I want to be able to access Mpesa services from it without removing the SIM card and putting it on a phone, does your solution help in this, or is this actually possible
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:50 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a solution, contact me if interested.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi everyone,
would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www.
My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment.
The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction.
If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites
Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment
If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :)
Kebaya
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Came across this, does the Mpesa bit work. http://likechapaa.com/2009/07/how-to-receive-payments-online/ Judy. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:50 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a solution, contact me if interested.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi everyone,
would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www.
My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment.
The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction.
If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites
Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment
If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :)
Kebaya
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Raidarmax has just pointed me to this NILIPE project it could be the one. http://vimeo.com/8988229 when is it going to be live? kebz On 2011-01-05, Judy Mwaniki <tshiro8@gmail.com> wrote:
Came across this, does the Mpesa bit work. http://likechapaa.com/2009/07/how-to-receive-payments-online/
Judy.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:50 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a solution, contact me if interested.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi everyone,
would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www.
My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment.
The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction.
If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites
Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment
If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :)
Kebaya
-- on a road less travelled _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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security concerns? On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Raidarmax has just pointed me to this NILIPE project
it could be the one. http://vimeo.com/8988229
when is it going to be live?
kebz
On 2011-01-05, Judy Mwaniki <tshiro8@gmail.com> wrote:
Came across this, does the Mpesa bit work. http://likechapaa.com/2009/07/how-to-receive-payments-online/
Judy.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:50 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a solution, contact me if interested.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi everyone,
would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www.
My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment.
The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction.
If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites
Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment
If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :)
Kebaya
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@ Judy Mwaniki thanks for the link this is what i found out from the blog :) Apparently SCOM has MPESA online http://likechapaa.com/2009/07/how-to-receive-payments-online/ "Did you know that you can accept payments online through Safaricom’s MPESA service? Nice eh? I’m pretty new to it so I cannot really review it but here’s what you need to do if you want to accept payments online via MPESA: 1. Send an email to mpesa@safaricom.co.ke requesting for the service 2. Safaricom then responds with the requirements, tariffs and supporting Docs required. 3. Agreements and contract drafted 4. Allocation of code number, account creation 5. Service Goes live " On 2011-01-05, kennedy kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> wrote:
security concerns?
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Raidarmax has just pointed me to this NILIPE project
it could be the one. http://vimeo.com/8988229
when is it going to be live?
kebz
On 2011-01-05, Judy Mwaniki <tshiro8@gmail.com> wrote:
Came across this, does the Mpesa bit work. http://likechapaa.com/2009/07/how-to-receive-payments-online/
Judy.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:50 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a solution, contact me if interested.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi everyone,
would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www.
My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment.
The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction.
If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites
Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment
If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :)
Kebaya
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It is live... only not public. We are in a commercialization phase. It is workable as both an offline and online solution. Currently working in 4 food delivery locations in Tanzania. When it goes public, you shall be able to purchase licenses online and download it. There are a lot of logistics on it, including support and integration with existing carts. David. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Raidarmax has just pointed me to this NILIPE project
it could be the one. http://vimeo.com/8988229
when is it going to be live?
kebz
On 2011-01-05, Judy Mwaniki <tshiro8@gmail.com> wrote:
Came across this, does the Mpesa bit work. http://likechapaa.com/2009/07/how-to-receive-payments-online/
Judy.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:50 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a solution, contact me if interested.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi everyone,
would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www.
My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment.
The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction.
If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites
Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment
If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :)
Kebaya
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Good work david can't wait to see it :) Success to you you will be hearing from me if it does what i believe it can do On 2011-01-05, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
It is live... only not public. We are in a commercialization phase. It is workable as both an offline and online solution. Currently working in 4 food delivery locations in Tanzania.
When it goes public, you shall be able to purchase licenses online and download it.
There are a lot of logistics on it, including support and integration with existing carts.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Raidarmax has just pointed me to this NILIPE project
it could be the one. http://vimeo.com/8988229
when is it going to be live?
kebz
On 2011-01-05, Judy Mwaniki <tshiro8@gmail.com> wrote:
Came across this, does the Mpesa bit work. http://likechapaa.com/2009/07/how-to-receive-payments-online/
Judy.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:50 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a solution, contact me if interested.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi everyone,
would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www.
My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment.
The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction.
If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites
Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment
If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :)
Kebaya
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Why does Safaricom not just have something like Paypal rather than a contact us approach? David's solution is quite brilliant and well thought off. At the same time, it also suffers from limitations in the form of Device Fragmentation

@Dennis, When we go public, we shall have support for Android, iOS and Symbian3. Right now anyone interested will have to work with Symbian S60 devices. David. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Why does Safaricom not just have something like Paypal rather than a contact us approach? David's solution is quite brilliant and well thought off. At the same time, it also suffers from limitations in the form of Device Fragmentation _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Wow, you guys must be working your behinds off. What about J2ME devices, how do you tackle this

On 1/5/2011 2:36 PM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Wow, you guys must be working your behinds off. What about J2ME devices, how do you tackle this
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Get other struggling operators and join in the struggle for customers. No one will go change their line because your shop uses another operator... unless you are selling tickets to the moon for 100 shillings. David. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Webmaster <webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com>wrote:
On 1/5/2011 2:36 PM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Wow, you guys must be working your behinds off. What about J2ME devices, how do you tackle this
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Come on guys, devs have been barking up this tree ever since MPESA was invented. I honestly think that Safaricom are very comfortable milking the system in it's current form, and any e-commerce venture for MPESA will probably be reactionary. My point is that, you're better off trying to get one of the other struggling operators to come up with an API, than looking at Safaricom itself first
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The real killer app will be a platform independent solution where i just put in my number and it sorts out orange/yu/airtel moneys or mpesa and the transaction just needs pin no.... id like to see a real working solution, David inbox me... On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:57 PM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
Get other struggling operators and join in the struggle for customers.
No one will go change their line because your shop uses another operator... unless you are selling tickets to the moon for 100 shillings.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Webmaster <webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com>wrote:
On 1/5/2011 2:36 PM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Wow, you guys must be working your behinds off. What about J2ME devices, how do you tackle this
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Come on guys, devs have been barking up this tree ever since MPESA was invented. I honestly think that Safaricom are very comfortable milking the system in it's current form, and any e-commerce venture for MPESA will probably be reactionary. My point is that, you're better off trying to get one of the other struggling operators to come up with an API, than looking at Safaricom itself first
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On 1/5/2011 3:57 PM, David Mugo wrote:
Get other struggling operators and join in the struggle for customers.
No one will go change their line because your shop uses another operator... unless you are selling tickets to the moon for 100 shillings.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Webmaster <webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com <mailto:webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com>> wrote:
On 1/5/2011 2:36 PM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Wow, you guys must be working your behinds off. What about J2ME devices, how do you tackle this
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Come on guys, devs have been barking up this tree ever since MPESA was invented. I honestly think that Safaricom are very comfortable milking the system in it's current form, and any e-commerce venture for MPESA will probably be reactionary. My point is that, you're better off trying to get one of the other struggling operators to come up with an API, than looking at Safaricom itself first
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@ Webmaster : we said!! I think Zain aka Airtel are more open to try . Even )range. on a road less travelled On 5 January 2011 17:13, Webmaster <webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2011 3:57 PM, David Mugo wrote:
Get other struggling operators and join in the struggle for customers.
No one will go change their line because your shop uses another operator... unless you are selling tickets to the moon for 100 shillings.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Webmaster <webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com>wrote:
On 1/5/2011 2:36 PM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Wow, you guys must be working your behinds off. What about J2ME devices, how do you tackle this
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Come on guys, devs have been barking up this tree ever since MPESA was invented. I honestly think that Safaricom are very comfortable milking the system in it's current form, and any e-commerce venture for MPESA will probably be reactionary. My point is that, you're better off trying to get one of the other struggling operators to come up with an API, than looking at Safaricom itself first
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You're not getting the point. Safaricom don't seem to want to be first movers in the e-commerce space but trust me, if someone else does it, they will react. Your job is to fish for that reaction. So you could go to Zain and get something going, and when Safcom reacts, you cross the floor. Also, something people are not getting is that all these mobile payment systems are closed source, proprietary technologies. This means that you would NEED the telco's cooperation re. an API to move into the e-commerce space. You can't decide to do it on your own, that would be like working without tools
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Processing payments online is easy but problem comes when one wants to do a withdrawal. safaricom doesnt provided an api to do so its all a closed source, everything must be initiated from the sim card as opposed to payment On Jan 5, 2011 2:21 PM, "Kebaya Mwamba" <humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote: @ Webmaster : we said!! I think Zain aka Airtel are more open to try . Even )range. on a road less travelled On 5 January 2011 17:13, Webmaster <webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2011 3:57 PM, Davi...
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https://www.pesapal.com I think as you all write and chat about it, the guys on the link above have squarely nailed it (for me), they are working it, some sites are live with it (www.umba.co.ke) - and for all intents and purpose, it works. I see they make heavy use of joomla/virtuemat but they give you an API which I imagine most guys here wouldn't have an issue with. their site doesnt say how much they charge per transaction but I get the feeling we're finally headed in the right direction. I have been wondering how to process local payments without having to develop/pay to develop a similar gateway, I had to think about it again this morning and we're definately going to give them a try if: - they have an active development team and an office to speak of. - they listen to my complains/ideas - I have a long list of requirements:-) JGitau On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:33 PM, erick opiyo <e.osoro.net@gmail.com> wrote:
Processing payments online is easy but problem comes when one wants to do a withdrawal. safaricom doesnt provided an api to do so its all a closed source, everything must be initiated from the sim card as opposed to payment
On Jan 5, 2011 2:21 PM, "Kebaya Mwamba" <humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Webmaster : we said!!
I think Zain aka Airtel are more open to try . Even )range.
on a road less travelled
On 5 January 2011 17:13, Webmaster <webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2011 3:57 PM, Davi...
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kalahari.net is another site with a nice integration using safaricom's paybill via MPESA. JGitau On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:14 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
I think as you all write and chat about it, the guys on the link above have squarely nailed it (for me), they are working it, some sites are live with it (www.umba.co.ke) - and for all intents and purpose, it works.
I see they make heavy use of joomla/virtuemat but they give you an API which I imagine most guys here wouldn't have an issue with. their site doesnt say how much they charge per transaction but I get the feeling we're finally headed in the right direction.
I have been wondering how to process local payments without having to develop/pay to develop a similar gateway, I had to think about it again this morning and we're definately going to give them a try if:
- they have an active development team and an office to speak of. - they listen to my complains/ideas - I have a long list of requirements:-)
JGitau
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:33 PM, erick opiyo <e.osoro.net@gmail.com> wrote:
Processing payments online is easy but problem comes when one wants to do a withdrawal. safaricom doesnt provided an api to do so its all a closed source, everything must be initiated from the sim card as opposed to payment
On Jan 5, 2011 2:21 PM, "Kebaya Mwamba" <humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Webmaster : we said!!
I think Zain aka Airtel are more open to try . Even )range.
on a road less travelled
On 5 January 2011 17:13, Webmaster <webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2011 3:57 PM, Davi...
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On 1/7/2011 9:16 PM, John Gitau wrote:
kalahari.net is another site with a nice integration using safaricom's paybill via MPESA.
JGitau
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:14 PM, John Gitau<jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
I think as you all write and chat about it, the guys on the link above have squarely nailed it (for me), they are working it, some sites are live with it (www.umba.co.ke) - and for all intents and purpose, it works.
I see they make heavy use of joomla/virtuemat but they give you an API which I imagine most guys here wouldn't have an issue with. their site doesnt say how much they charge per transaction but I get the feeling we're finally headed in the right direction.
I have been wondering how to process local payments without having to develop/pay to develop a similar gateway, I had to think about it again this morning and we're definately going to give them a try if:
- they have an active development team and an office to speak of. - they listen to my complains/ideas - I have a long list of requirements:-)
JGitau
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:33 PM, erick opiyo<e.osoro.net@gmail.com> wrote:
Processing payments online is easy but problem comes when one wants to do a withdrawal. safaricom doesnt provided an api to do so its all a closed source, everything must be initiated from the sim card as opposed to payment
On Jan 5, 2011 2:21 PM, "Kebaya Mwamba"<humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Webmaster : we said!!
I think Zain aka Airtel are more open to try . Even )range.
on a road less travelled
On 5 January 2011 17:13, Webmaster<webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2011 3:57 PM, Davi...
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John, sorry to burst your bubble, but Paybill, and other MPESA online integrations so far are complete JUNK when it comes to simple transactions. Like the Paybill name says, it is only good for paying bills. Take for example Pewahewa.com. To buy a song, you have to first go to the site, select your song on your computer, click click click, then you will receive a receipt, the content of which you have to memorize, and ALSO memorize their paybill number, open your phone, go to your MPESA menu, type in all those details, get yet another receipt, memorize the content of THAT receipt, transfer it's content back to your computer, and receive the songs you selected. ANOTHER caveat is that each song is 40 bob, hence you must buy at least 3 songs at a go in order to bypass Safaricom's 100bob transaction limit. Now what developers are crying out for is that we must have a system that enables IMPULSE BUYING. Yaani naona bidhaa nataka, naweka phone number na MPESA PIN, na bidhaa ni yangu, PAP!

@Webmaster - mpesa's lower transaction limit is 50 bob and upper limit is 70k.

the point I/was trying to make is that there are people somehow making things work on the very platforms you complain about. None of them will be perfect for everyone - ever- but I can guarantee you they are making money and or at least helping/enabling other businesses. Don't take one product and start telling me about its complexities or lack features thereof. Identify your needs and find something that sorts it out. I for instance don't expect someone to complain because their local shop doesn't take credit cards to buy milk and bread. Now whether you like it or not, burst bubbles or not etc doesn't matter much.....commercial transactions are more complex than PAP! JGitau On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Webmaster <webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com> wrote:
On 1/7/2011 9:16 PM, John Gitau wrote:
kalahari.net is another site with a nice integration using safaricom's paybill via MPESA.
JGitau
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:14 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
I think as you all write and chat about it, the guys on the link above have squarely nailed it (for me), they are working it, some sites are live with it (www.umba.co.ke) - and for all intents and purpose, it works.
I see they make heavy use of joomla/virtuemat but they give you an API which I imagine most guys here wouldn't have an issue with. their site doesnt say how much they charge per transaction but I get the feeling we're finally headed in the right direction.
I have been wondering how to process local payments without having to develop/pay to develop a similar gateway, I had to think about it again this morning and we're definately going to give them a try if:
- they have an active development team and an office to speak of. - they listen to my complains/ideas - I have a long list of requirements:-)
JGitau
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:33 PM, erick opiyo <e.osoro.net@gmail.com> wrote:
Processing payments online is easy but problem comes when one wants to do a withdrawal. safaricom doesnt provided an api to do so its all a closed source, everything must be initiated from the sim card as opposed to payment
On Jan 5, 2011 2:21 PM, "Kebaya Mwamba" <humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Webmaster : we said!!
I think Zain aka Airtel are more open to try . Even )range.
on a road less travelled
On 5 January 2011 17:13, Webmaster <webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2011 3:57 PM, Davi...
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John, sorry to burst your bubble, but Paybill, and other MPESA online integrations so far are complete JUNK when it comes to simple transactions. Like the Paybill name says, it is only good for paying bills. Take for example Pewahewa.com. To buy a song, you have to first go to the site, select your song on your computer, click click click, then you will receive a receipt, the content of which you have to memorize, and ALSO memorize their paybill number, open your phone, go to your MPESA menu, type in all those details, get yet another receipt, memorize the content of THAT receipt, transfer it's content back to your computer, and receive the songs you selected. ANOTHER caveat is that each song is 40 bob, hence you must buy at least 3 songs at a go in order to bypass Safaricom's 100bob transaction limit.
Now what developers are crying out for is that we must have a system that enables IMPULSE BUYING. Yaani naona bidhaa nataka, naweka phone number na MPESA PIN, na bidhaa ni yangu, PAP!
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I tried Kalahari and was impressed. Got a book delivered to my desk in the office in 5 days! ./bernard On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:16 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
kalahari.net is another site with a nice integration using safaricom's paybill via MPESA.
JGitau
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:14 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
I think as you all write and chat about it, the guys on the link above have squarely nailed it (for me), they are working it, some sites are live with it (www.umba.co.ke) - and for all intents and purpose, it works.
I see they make heavy use of joomla/virtuemat but they give you an API which I imagine most guys here wouldn't have an issue with. their site doesnt say how much they charge per transaction but I get the feeling we're finally headed in the right direction.
I have been wondering how to process local payments without having to develop/pay to develop a similar gateway, I had to think about it again this morning and we're definately going to give them a try if:
- they have an active development team and an office to speak of. - they listen to my complains/ideas - I have a long list of requirements:-)
JGitau
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:33 PM, erick opiyo <e.osoro.net@gmail.com> wrote:
Processing payments online is easy but problem comes when one wants to do a withdrawal. safaricom doesnt provided an api to do so its all a closed source, everything must be initiated from the sim card as opposed to payment
On Jan 5, 2011 2:21 PM, "Kebaya Mwamba" <humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Webmaster : we said!!
I think Zain aka Airtel are more open to try . Even )range.
on a road less travelled
On 5 January 2011 17:13, Webmaster <webmaster@kenyanlyrics.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2011 3:57 PM, Davi...
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@raidarmax wow that nice the idea is to loop a whole transaction cycle into a 30 sec thing that does it in the background..no need to enter business number ...then transaction ID...all this should be happening in the background..what the buyer just needs to do is to enter his/her telephone number and pin...and the system takes over the authentication, funds transfer... the client is saved the stress of doing multiple smses On 2011-01-05, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a solution, contact me if interested.
David.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Kebaya Mwamba <humphreykebaya@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi everyone,
would it be a good new years wish if MPESA went online? I am freely givng this idea to any programmer out there. To spark real ecommerce in kenya, i believe MPESA should both co exist on the mobile scene and go the www.
My idea of an ideal MPESA online scenario is where by during checkout, a customer selects MPESA payment, s/he just enters the mobile phone number and PIN number and the API process the order in the background in like (30secs) and processes the payment.
The client and vendor both get SMS a few seconds later confirming transaction.
If any programmer can do this, please take it up! All the best to you.! Just make the API public for intergration into ecommerce sites
Remember just enter phone number and PIN and click process payment
If MPESA goes online it will be truly global :)
Kebaya
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