Re: [Skunkworks] Another exciting question for programmers...
So lemmi get this straight aki..u dont want links from the net which have deeper info..instead u want peeps to study the info n then break it down to you or something?? Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I can take a horse to water but i can't make it drink.
Haya basi. Do as you please
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:37 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Rad, imho, wacha ku bore. stop referring me to the internet. I know how to use it from the days of Netscape and Alta Vista. :-))
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Aki in case you havent realized by now you catch more flies with honey than with cowdung.
Talking down at folks will get you nowhere.
If you want to look at code for the implementation of torrent protocol - server, client and creator check out bitsharp - http://www.mono-project.com/Bitsharp
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@Steve, if you read @Pedersen's comment, he is the only one who knows. And this was something he did in University level. Impressive, and the kind of people we need to engage on the KICT technology gurus list. So while I don't support the idea of providing me with search engine based results which I can do on my own, I appreciate the level of knowledge that @Pedersen has which can be quite a motivating factor. Hope this answers your question below. Rgds. :-) On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM, <steve.kim41@gmail.com> wrote:
So lemmi get this straight aki..u dont want links from the net which have deeper info..instead u want peeps to study the info n then break it down to you or something??
@Aki This is why we remain a third world country. How do you know I got that from a search engine? You assume too much my son. I did some work on that protocol some years ago and thought I could help you by saving you some time and code. The thanks I get is thinly veiled insults. Very well then. Since you don't value input, why should folks bother giving it to you? And for free might I add. Good luck on your endeavours sir. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Steve, if you read @Pedersen's comment, he is the only one who knows. And this was something he did in University level. Impressive, and the kind of people we need to engage on the KICT technology gurus list.
So while I don't support the idea of providing me with search engine based results which I can do on my own, I appreciate the level of knowledge that @Pedersen has which can be quite a motivating factor.
Hope this answers your question below.
Rgds. :-)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM, <steve.kim41@gmail.com> wrote:
So lemmi get this straight aki..u dont want links from the net which have deeper info..instead u want peeps to study the info n then break it down to you or something??
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@Rad, my distant distant son . lol! :-) I wish your replies were similar to those of @Martin or @Pedersen. One huge compliment I give to @Martin Chiteri is that he is a serious potential for the future Code Academy, if one ever crops up in KE. You sending me to the web is something I can do without the need of asking anyone. But hey, the whole point of this thread was to create an exciting exchange of information about Torrent architecture but what is so boring is the non-replies. White Space in a program is a waste of resources. I wish such threads that I post could share the same passion shared when mpesa sms'es not do work or when mobile networks go down. Clearly not the case. Meaning= wrong list, wrong forum. Thus the need for a serious KICT gurus forum where we can bash the heck out of questions etc. You know what, I'd if I could rewind time, I'd rather study where @Pedersen studied. @Karuiki, do you know about Torrent Architecture and can compliment further @Pedersen's input? Rgds Gents. :-)
And I'm telling you I've actually done some practical work with the bittorrent protocol largely based off the code I pointed you to. For you to do any sort of work you will have to learn how the protocol works so that all the pieces fit together. I can take you to the water but I certainly won't convince you to drink On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:04 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Rad, my distant distant son . lol! :-) I wish your replies were similar to those of @Martin or @Pedersen. One huge compliment I give to @Martin Chiteri is that he is a serious potential for the future Code Academy, if one ever crops up in KE. You sending me to the web is something I can do without the need of asking anyone. But hey, the whole point of this thread was to create an exciting exchange of information about Torrent architecture but what is so boring is the non-replies. White Space in a program is a waste of resources.
I wish such threads that I post could share the same passion shared when mpesa sms'es not do work or when mobile networks go down. Clearly not the case. Meaning= wrong list, wrong forum. Thus the need for a serious KICT gurus forum where we can bash the heck out of questions etc. You know what, I'd if I could rewind time, I'd rather study where @Pedersen studied.
@Karuiki, do you know about Torrent Architecture and can compliment further @Pedersen's input?
Rgds Gents. :-)
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@Rad, when you have sometime to respond, please share what you did on the protocol level. It will be interesting and could add further to what @Pedersen has already added. Cheers. :-) On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
And I'm telling you I've actually done some practical work with the bittorrent protocol largely based off the code I pointed you to.
For you to do any sort of work you will have to learn how the protocol works so that all the pieces fit together.
A beer would be more appropriate ha ha ha Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:15:24 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Another exciting question for programmers... And I'm telling you I've actually done some practical work with the bittorrent protocol largely based off the code I pointed you to. For you to do any sort of work you will have to learn how the protocol works so that all the pieces fit together. I can take you to the water but I certainly won't convince you to drink On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:04 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Rad, my distant distant son . lol! :-) I wish your replies were similar to those of @Martin or @Pedersen. One huge compliment I give to @Martin Chiteri is that he is a serious potential for the future Code Academy, if one ever crops up in KE. You sending me to the web is something I can do without the need of asking anyone. But hey, the whole point of this thread was to create an exciting exchange of information about Torrent architecture but what is so boring is the non-replies. White Space in a program is a waste of resources.
I wish such threads that I post could share the same passion shared when mpesa sms'es not do work or when mobile networks go down. Clearly not the case. Meaning= wrong list, wrong forum. Thus the need for a serious KICT gurus forum where we can bash the heck out of questions etc. You know what, I'd if I could rewind time, I'd rather study where @Pedersen studied.
@Karuiki, do you know about Torrent Architecture and can compliment further @Pedersen's input?
Rgds Gents. :-)
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Awww Aki is it that time of the thread again? Was it Bill Gates that said "If I'd had some set idea of a finish line, don't you think I would have crossed it years ago?" Don't start what you can't finish. :-) On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Steve, if you read @Pedersen's comment, he is the only one who knows. And this was something he did in University level. Impressive, and the kind of people we need to engage on the KICT technology gurus list.
So while I don't support the idea of providing me with search engine based results which I can do on my own, I appreciate the level of knowledge that @Pedersen has which can be quite a motivating factor.
Hope this answers your question below.
Rgds. :-)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM, <steve.kim41@gmail.com> wrote:
So lemmi get this straight aki..u dont want links from the net which have deeper info..instead u want peeps to study the info n then break it down to you or something??
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My biggest problem with @Aki is that you think this list owes you answers - no one does! Sometimes I look at your questions and I may have so much information on it, but I choose not to answer coz of this attitude, and believe me, there are so many of us here who think the same. I know you want to spur discussion, but you going on the wrong way telling us how you started using the internet in 1995 - so many of us are in the same timespan, so please respect that someone may just want a quiet day than to read these insults! ./Ok3ch On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Awww Aki is it that time of the thread again? Was it Bill Gates that said "If I'd had some set idea of a finish line, don't you think I would have crossed it years ago?" Don't start what you can't finish. :-)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Steve, if you read @Pedersen's comment, he is the only one who knows. And this was something he did in University level. Impressive, and the kind of people we need to engage on the KICT technology gurus list.
So while I don't support the idea of providing me with search engine based results which I can do on my own, I appreciate the level of knowledge that @Pedersen has which can be quite a motivating factor.
Hope this answers your question below.
Rgds. :-)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM, <steve.kim41@gmail.com> wrote:
So lemmi get this straight aki..u dont want links from the net which have deeper info..instead u want peeps to study the info n then break it down to you or something??
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JFGIT
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Awww Aki is it that time of the thread again? Was it Bill Gates that said "If I'd had some set idea of a finish line, don't you think I would have crossed it years ago?" Don't start what you can't finish. :-)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Steve, if you read @Pedersen's comment, he is the only one who knows.
And
this was something he did in University level. Impressive, and the kind of people we need to engage on the KICT technology gurus list.
So while I don't support the idea of providing me with search engine based results which I can do on my own, I appreciate the level of knowledge that @Pedersen has which can be quite a motivating factor.
Hope this answers your question below.
Rgds. :-)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM, <steve.kim41@gmail.com> wrote:
So lemmi get this straight aki..u dont want links from the net which
have
deeper info..instead u want peeps to study the info n then break it down to you or something??
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@Ok3ch, we are going back and forth again, too many postings on non-issues. If anyone wants to reply or not is fine, its not the end of the world as such. We are in 2012, Please don't send me back to 1995 to use search engines. period! Cheers. :-)
Hehehe, and you can twist a discussion which was getting heated up! Ok, I give up, I have never bothered the learn torrents architecture, but unlike you, when I get the interest, I will google it :-) ./Ok3ch On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:12 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ok3ch, we are going back and forth again, too many postings on non-issues. If anyone wants to reply or not is fine, its not the end of the world as such. We are in 2012, Please don't send me back to 1995 to use search engines. period!
Cheers. :-)
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am quite old school. Imagine am still using search engines such as google to find solutions. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:12 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ok3ch, we are going back and forth again, too many postings on non-issues. If anyone wants to reply or not is fine, its not the end of the world as such. We are in 2012, Please don't send me back to 1995 to use search engines. period!
Cheers. :-)
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Read the thread properly from the start. Here is the copy/paste: - Anyone with an in-depth understanding of torrent architecture would be able to help provide some clues. This would be appreciated.( part of first post ) - *No one knows torrent architecture?* What kind of ICT technologists exists in KE because if those who use torrents, as technologists, have no inputs on this thread then surely even the lay person torrent user cannot be expected to know. Surely there has to be a high level ICT group in KE that are technology gurus who don't fall into the categories of "users and box customizers with parasitic behaviours ". Can anyone please refer me to a serious KE tech gurus mailing list of which I'd like to become a member. Hii Skunks ni boring boring sana, too anti-development :-( Did I write that google or a search engine is to be used? Did @Pedersen's reply not contain the following two critical data "hash tables and sockets"? Where does this place you on the level of comment = search result responder or actually someone who has done some work on torrent architecture and sharing some insights into the process? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com> wrote:
am quite old school. Imagine am still using search engines such as google to find solutions.
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:12 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ok3ch, we are going back and forth again, too many postings on non-issues. If anyone wants to reply or not is fine, its not the end of the world as such. We are in 2012, Please don't send me back to 1995 to use search engines. period!
Damn, now I need to google how to set up a filter on my gmail. BR S
Hi @Steve, don't bother. This thread should be my last posting for a while, I probably will end up joining some scandinavian programmer mailing lists that can further go to deeper and interesting discussions. You should activate the filter for things like mpesa's outages, wifi , iphone jailbreaking, foss, adverts etc etc. Infact, as of this thread posting, all skunks emails are going to be forwarded to trash unless they contain @Wash, @Rad, @Obbayi, @Chiteri , @Pedersen and a few others. Rgds. :-) On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
Damn, now I need to google how to set up a filter on my gmail.
BR S
@aki would u be so kind as to give us more insight on the data sharing problem statement and how you envision the torrent arch addressing it? i think that would result in a more fruitful discussion regards chris On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:39 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi @Steve, don't bother. This thread should be my last posting for a while, I probably will end up joining some scandinavian programmer mailing lists that can further go to deeper and interesting discussions. You should activate the filter for things like mpesa's outages, wifi , iphone jailbreaking, foss, adverts etc etc. Infact, as of this thread posting, all skunks emails are going to be forwarded to trash unless they contain @Wash, @Rad, @Obbayi, @Chiteri , @Pedersen and a few others.
Rgds. :-)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
Damn, now I need to google how to set up a filter on my gmail.
BR S
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@AKI, kindly could you point us to any of your latest, completed and fully functional projects just so as to put your tirades into perspective Regards Jared Koyier On 6 March 2012 12:55, Chris Mwirigi <mwirigic@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki would u be so kind as to give us more insight on the data sharing problem statement and how you envision the torrent arch addressing it? i think that would result in a more fruitful discussion
regards chris
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:39 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi @Steve, don't bother. This thread should be my last posting for a while, I probably will end up joining some scandinavian programmer mailing lists that can further go to deeper and interesting discussions. You should activate the filter for things like mpesa's outages, wifi , iphone jailbreaking, foss, adverts etc etc. Infact, as of this thread posting, all skunks emails are going to be forwarded to trash unless they contain @Wash, @Rad, @Obbayi, @Chiteri , @Pedersen and a few others.
Rgds. :-)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
Damn, now I need to google how to set up a filter on my gmail.
BR S
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@Jared +1 @aki I don't know who these 'real' technologists are and I don't think you do either. assuming every tech person must cram protocols and produce code from memory so as to pass your high n mighty test is rather peculiar. there is an abundance of info on the web. according to you we shouldn't use it? On 3/6/12, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
@AKI, kindly could you point us to any of your latest, completed and fully functional projects just so as to put your tirades into perspective
Regards Jared Koyier
On 6 March 2012 12:55, Chris Mwirigi <mwirigic@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki would u be so kind as to give us more insight on the data sharing problem statement and how you envision the torrent arch addressing it? i think that would result in a more fruitful discussion
regards chris
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:39 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi @Steve, don't bother. This thread should be my last posting for a while, I probably will end up joining some scandinavian programmer mailing lists that can further go to deeper and interesting discussions. You should activate the filter for things like mpesa's outages, wifi , iphone jailbreaking, foss, adverts etc etc. Infact, as of this thread posting, all skunks emails are going to be forwarded to trash unless they contain @Wash, @Rad, @Obbayi, @Chiteri , @Pedersen and a few others.
Rgds. :-)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
Damn, now I need to google how to set up a filter on my gmail.
BR S
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@Chris_Mwirigi: The use of a torrent architecture was just an after thought a few days ago of the kplc monitoring inputs thing that am working on. I wanted to see how I could apply such an architecture into the wiki-style type of web app. For example, part of the KPLC monitoring includes sharing of jpeg images that point to shoddy and dangerous works done at transformer level or overhead cables i.e say the earthing was not done too well etc. IMO, I don't want to use the regular file uploads methods but to build something that has torrent structure where the data shared will have a data verification, can be hosted on various client machines if the needs arise etc. Anyway, I found it extremely interesting and thus listed the thread hoping that someone will have done some work on such and could share some insights. @Jared_Koyier, there is work in progress and UPPAID/NOT FUNDED/MY PERSONAL TIME NON-COMMERCIAL commitment to finish it. Will share with you when it is completed. For the end user, it'll be a simple website but what goes on behind the processes with what am working on. @Mark_Mwangi, what do you want me to write? Please read the first post and second post, then comment. Too many responses on this thread. No more comments from me unless it has anything to do with the original posting of Torrent Architecture. Rgds. :-)
@All, this thread is really becoming funny now! :D But seriously, if I can interject a little, am now envisioning if Skunkworks was an actual bar in town, what kinds of fights would break out in there?? #Epic ;-) Honestly @Aki, am sure a lot of listers in here would love to help you. What you need to understand is that we are all really learners, at some level or another. What we deal with here is mostly foreign technology and for me the first place to do a stop if I have a problem is somewhere like StackOverflow.com. The Signal to Noise there is Sooooo High, you may not really need to squeeze water out of Rocks like it happens at times :) Am sure that if you were to ask for an F/OSS recipe for making Busaa / Chang'aa / Yokozuna, etc you will get sterling results from a random guy in the streets of Nairobi, let alone Skunkworks ..... The other issue is that you bring up interesting topics, but for the lack of time (and interest at times), people do not pay as much attention to them as they should. That does not mean that they lack the knowledge or ability to do so. Am quite certain that a great many things have been done in the KE technology scene by locals who are either unaware of Skunks or do not bother much to flaunt their achievements. All we should really do is be tolerant of each other and assist one another to become the Masters we all dream of becoming one day! Martin. P.S: Apologies in advance to anyone who finds this post offensive.
@Martin, Amen to that! I hope the day we have an extremely vibrant developer community of KICT tech gurus who are in a position to not just help but also make the necessary pointers without the going into search engines. Some people need to take a cue from some of us on responses. Whenever I feel that there is the need for someone to know indepth and I can respond, I go out of my way to ensure they understand the concept. The most recent one was @Wash's Wifi thread, I even pointed him to the reason why not to use too much RF power, further I provided a spectrum analysis video to show the concept of possible harmonics of frequencies and reflections. Whether it helped him or not, I hope it provided him with a valuable insight to make the right decision about his Wifi Deployment. Not sure how many on this list are on the mechanics list, but whenever anyone posts a question and I know the sector like the back of my hand because it was a former passion, I always take my time to respond to queries. There was one on traction control and I took the thread step by step until it became clear on how and why. For me on principle, and I did not know it would come to this, am totally done posting any threads that have to do with software development or programming in KE. Period! Now I'll happily buy shares in Google and get on with what I enjoy doing i.e write basic code when time is available. When the KPLC project is completed, will post it here for testing and further inputs in due course. Over and out. Rgds. :-) On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
All we should really do is be tolerant of each other and assist one another to become the Masters we all dream of becoming one day!
Martin.
P.S: Apologies in advance to anyone who finds this post offensive.
I swore never to respond to any of Aki's posts lest I be called a moron or some other thing. I might know a thing of two but then... On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Martin, Amen to that! I hope the day we have an extremely vibrant developer community of KICT tech gurus who are in a position to not just help but also make the necessary pointers without the going into search engines. Some people need to take a cue from some of us on responses. Whenever I feel that there is the need for someone to know indepth and I can respond, I go out of my way to ensure they understand the concept. The most recent one was @Wash's Wifi thread, I even pointed him to the reason why not to use too much RF power, further I provided a spectrum analysis video to show the concept of possible harmonics of frequencies and reflections. Whether it helped him or not, I hope it provided him with a valuable insight to make the right decision about his Wifi Deployment. Not sure how many on this list are on the mechanics list, but whenever anyone posts a question and I know the sector like the back of my hand because it was a former passion, I always take my time to respond to queries. There was one on traction control and I took the thread step by step until it became clear on how and why.
For me on principle, and I did not know it would come to this, am totally done posting any threads that have to do with software development or programming in KE. Period! Now I'll happily buy shares in Google and get on with what I enjoy doing i.e write basic code when time is available. When the KPLC project is completed, will post it here for testing and further inputs in due course.
Over and out.
Rgds. :-)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
All we should really do is be tolerant of each other and assist one another to become the Masters we all dream of becoming one day!
Martin.
P.S: Apologies in advance to anyone who finds this post offensive.
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@Anthony, am sorry you feel like like your mail below and I do apologise if you were in any way caught in the cross fires that sometimes take place on this list. Please walk up the entire 8 layers, reach the top and see the view. You will see a totally different world with possibilities and where my drive comes from. Then you will also see where the word moron creeps in from too though never meant in the local context. Its the same question I posted to @Mark as what is the real difference between 1982 and 2012. For many its just another decades gone, in 1982 I could still talk to almost anyone on a fixed line while in 2012 its a mobile handset. Big deal. What has been the significant changes then in comparison? The world went through some minor wars from the Gulf part 1 & 2, the machete killed more people in Rwanda than planes dropping bombs in WW2 in a single location, the technology advances that took place in the West and East have changed the world. Na sisi tuko wapi? Still on code handouts or actually doing something about it? I thank you for your patience and will not comment. You have my commitment to silence on this sector. :-) Rgds. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
I swore never to respond to any of Aki's posts lest I be called a moron or some other thing. I might know a thing of two but then...
@Aki Your approach matters a lot.They say,a man who is unwise tells a lady to shut up but a wise man tells her she is most beautiful with her mouth closed!Do you understand this metaphor or shall I take it step by step? :) Nobody on this list owes another person ANY explanation.In any case,when you ask people for a solution here,you should consider it a favour that someone takes the time to answer it!If you do not get an answer,either people are busy with their lives or they do not know the answer!Do you want us to be answering you with messages such as; 'Sorry I'm busy at work,I can't answer your question' or 'I don't know the answer' or even 'What kind of a question is that' for you to understand this concept?And should you not find a suitable answer,you just move on like the rest of us do! :) As for your grudge with people from a certain generation,what exactly do you propose as the solutions to the stated' 'problems'?When you say we were born in a generation where we only use the internet to find code and FOSS software for our custom solutions,do you want us to ignore Google so that we can gain your respect?To what end would we be doing that? On 6 March 2012 18:45, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Martin, Amen to that! I hope the day we have an extremely vibrant developer community of KICT tech gurus who are in a position to not just help but also make the necessary pointers without the going into search engines. Some people need to take a cue from some of us on responses. Whenever I feel that there is the need for someone to know indepth and I can respond, I go out of my way to ensure they understand the concept. The most recent one was @Wash's Wifi thread, I even pointed him to the reason why not to use too much RF power, further I provided a spectrum analysis video to show the concept of possible harmonics of frequencies and reflections. Whether it helped him or not, I hope it provided him with a valuable insight to make the right decision about his Wifi Deployment. Not sure how many on this list are on the mechanics list, but whenever anyone posts a question and I know the sector like the back of my hand because it was a former passion, I always take my time to respond to queries. There was one on traction control and I took the thread step by step until it became clear on how and why.
For me on principle, and I did not know it would come to this, am totally done posting any threads that have to do with software development or programming in KE. Period! Now I'll happily buy shares in Google and get on with what I enjoy doing i.e write basic code when time is available. When the KPLC project is completed, will post it here for testing and further inputs in due course.
Over and out.
Rgds. :-)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
All we should really do is be tolerant of each other and assist one another to become the Masters we all dream of becoming one day!
Martin.
P.S: Apologies in advance to anyone who finds this post offensive.
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-- Kind Regards, Moses Muya.
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