
Do you pay for the software that you use? If not.why? Are the avenues to do so lacking? Do you perceive the value derived as less than the asking price? Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw Information technology has been seen as the sector that will in the coming decade create thousands of jobs by way of birthing new companies to exploit new niches, providing tools that enable access to a hither to unreachable market segment and the export of services through outsourcing. As we get excited by the new opportunities we must pay close attention to the accompanying issues that we have in the past let slip by silently. As we start to create our own services {think beyond IT here.the arts, music, creative, manufacturing } and build platforms that we hope to sell to consumers, we start to encounter terms such as Intellectual Property which often elicit fear as we do not want our IP rights to be abused and / or our work stolen. If this be the case, why is it then that we feel it is ok to infringe on the rights of others by blatantly disregarding their intellectual property by way of using software without commensurate compensation to its creator? Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw

I don't use legitimate software. Many programmers out there don't. However where we can (and feel moved to do so) smaller stolen gems from the internet e.g. website templates can be paid for once they have made the programmer money. Don't see myself paying for Dreamweaver any time soon though. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mbugua Njihia <mbugua@symbiotic.co.ke>wrote:
Do you pay for the software that you use? If not…why? Are the avenues to do so lacking? Do you perceive the value derived as less than the asking price? ****
Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw****
Information technology has been seen as the sector that will in the coming decade create thousands of jobs by way of birthing new companies to exploit new niches, providing tools that enable access to a hither to unreachable market segment and the export of services through outsourcing. As we get excited by the new opportunities we must pay close attention to the accompanying issues that we have in the past let slip by silently.****
As we start to create our own services {think beyond IT here…the arts, music, creative, manufacturing } and build platforms that we hope to sell to consumers, we start to encounter terms such as Intellectual Property which often elicit fear as we do not want our IP rights to be abused and / or our work stolen. If this be the case, why is it then that we feel it is ok to infringe on the rights of others by blatantly disregarding their intellectual property by way of using software without commensurate compensation to its creator? ****
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I use free software. Gimp, Sharpdevelop, CDBurnerXP, Libreoffice, etc on Windows. The only thing that is paid for is the Windows OS. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kago Kagichiri <thekenyanprince@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't use legitimate software. Many programmers out there don't. However where we can (and feel moved to do so) smaller stolen gems from the internet e.g. website templates can be paid for once they have made the programmer money. Don't see myself paying for Dreamweaver any time soon though.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mbugua Njihia <mbugua@symbiotic.co.ke>wrote:
Do you pay for the software that you use? If not…why? Are the avenues to do so lacking? Do you perceive the value derived as less than the asking price?
Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw
Information technology has been seen as the sector that will in the coming decade create thousands of jobs by way of birthing new companies to exploit new niches, providing tools that enable access to a hither to unreachable market segment and the export of services through outsourcing. As we get excited by the new opportunities we must pay close attention to the accompanying issues that we have in the past let slip by silently.
As we start to create our own services {think beyond IT here…the arts, music, creative, manufacturing } and build platforms that we hope to sell to consumers, we start to encounter terms such as Intellectual Property which often elicit fear as we do not want our IP rights to be abused and / or our work stolen. If this be the case, why is it then that we feel it is ok to infringe on the rights of others by blatantly disregarding their intellectual property by way of using software without commensurate compensation to its creator?
Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw
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Unfortunately, software is still a weird concept for the common mwananchi to comprehend. Hardware is physical and you can touch it and it can even be stolen. Software on the other hand is like a ghost... When you open your office in the morning, after the thieves have left, you will exclaim MY COMPUTER HARDWARE HAVE BEEN STOLEN ! but you will not exclaim MY HARDWARE, WINDOWS XP, COREL DRAW AND OFFICE 2007 HAS BEEN STOLEN ! This might sound as if I am ignorant, but just try to explain what software is to a kawaida earthling and or better yet to your grandmother... Once they get the concept, try to explain to them why they should pay $100 for a "ghost" that is already available for free... Timo. On 11/28/11, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
I use free software. Gimp, Sharpdevelop, CDBurnerXP, Libreoffice, etc on Windows. The only thing that is paid for is the Windows OS.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kago Kagichiri <thekenyanprince@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't use legitimate software. Many programmers out there don't. However where we can (and feel moved to do so) smaller stolen gems from the internet e.g. website templates can be paid for once they have made the programmer money. Don't see myself paying for Dreamweaver any time soon though.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mbugua Njihia <mbugua@symbiotic.co.ke>wrote:
Do you pay for the software that you use? If not…why? Are the avenues to do so lacking? Do you perceive the value derived as less than the asking price?
Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw
Information technology has been seen as the sector that will in the coming decade create thousands of jobs by way of birthing new companies to exploit new niches, providing tools that enable access to a hither to unreachable market segment and the export of services through outsourcing. As we get excited by the new opportunities we must pay close attention to the accompanying issues that we have in the past let slip by silently.
As we start to create our own services {think beyond IT here…the arts, music, creative, manufacturing } and build platforms that we hope to sell to consumers, we start to encounter terms such as Intellectual Property which often elicit fear as we do not want our IP rights to be abused and / or our work stolen. If this be the case, why is it then that we feel it is ok to infringe on the rights of others by blatantly disregarding their intellectual property by way of using software without commensurate compensation to its creator?
Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw
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@Timothy Actually its not your software, the user doesn't own the software just a license to use it. I stand to be corrected but in the instance that you are robbed your exclamation could be "my license to use software has been stolen" On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Unfortunately, software is still a weird concept for the common mwananchi to comprehend. Hardware is physical and you can touch it and it can even be stolen.
Software on the other hand is like a ghost...
When you open your office in the morning, after the thieves have left, you will exclaim MY COMPUTER HARDWARE HAVE BEEN STOLEN ! but you will not exclaim MY HARDWARE, WINDOWS XP, COREL DRAW AND OFFICE 2007 HAS BEEN STOLEN !
This might sound as if I am ignorant, but just try to explain what software is to a kawaida earthling and or better yet to your grandmother... Once they get the concept, try to explain to them why they should pay $100 for a "ghost" that is already available for free...
Timo.
On 11/28/11, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
I use free software. Gimp, Sharpdevelop, CDBurnerXP, Libreoffice, etc on Windows. The only thing that is paid for is the Windows OS.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kago Kagichiri <thekenyanprince@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't use legitimate software. Many programmers out there don't. However where we can (and feel moved to do so) smaller stolen gems from the internet e.g. website templates can be paid for once they have made the programmer money. Don't see myself paying for Dreamweaver any time soon though.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mbugua Njihia <mbugua@symbiotic.co.ke>wrote:
Do you pay for the software that you use? If not…why? Are the avenues to do so lacking? Do you perceive the value derived as less than the asking price?
Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw
Information technology has been seen as the sector that will in the coming decade create thousands of jobs by way of birthing new companies to exploit new niches, providing tools that enable access to a hither to unreachable market segment and the export of services through outsourcing. As we get excited by the new opportunities we must pay close attention to the accompanying issues that we have in the past let slip by silently.
As we start to create our own services {think beyond IT here…the arts, music, creative, manufacturing } and build platforms that we hope to sell to consumers, we start to encounter terms such as Intellectual Property which often elicit fear as we do not want our IP rights to be abused and / or our work stolen. If this be the case, why is it then that we feel it is ok to infringe on the rights of others by blatantly disregarding their intellectual property by way of using software without commensurate compensation to its creator?
Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw
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hehehe..Brian, you are right...I stand corrected. Timo. On 11/28/11, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
@Timothy Actually its not your software, the user doesn't own the software just a license to use it. I stand to be corrected but in the instance that you are robbed your exclamation could be "my license to use software has been stolen"
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Unfortunately, software is still a weird concept for the common mwananchi to comprehend. Hardware is physical and you can touch it and it can even be stolen.
Software on the other hand is like a ghost...
When you open your office in the morning, after the thieves have left, you will exclaim MY COMPUTER HARDWARE HAVE BEEN STOLEN ! but you will not exclaim MY HARDWARE, WINDOWS XP, COREL DRAW AND OFFICE 2007 HAS BEEN STOLEN !
This might sound as if I am ignorant, but just try to explain what software is to a kawaida earthling and or better yet to your grandmother... Once they get the concept, try to explain to them why they should pay $100 for a "ghost" that is already available for free...
Timo.
On 11/28/11, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
I use free software. Gimp, Sharpdevelop, CDBurnerXP, Libreoffice, etc on Windows. The only thing that is paid for is the Windows OS.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kago Kagichiri <thekenyanprince@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't use legitimate software. Many programmers out there don't. However where we can (and feel moved to do so) smaller stolen gems from the internet e.g. website templates can be paid for once they have made the programmer money. Don't see myself paying for Dreamweaver any time soon though.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mbugua Njihia <mbugua@symbiotic.co.ke>wrote:
Do you pay for the software that you use? If not…why? Are the avenues to do so lacking? Do you perceive the value derived as less than the asking price?
Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw
Information technology has been seen as the sector that will in the coming decade create thousands of jobs by way of birthing new companies to exploit new niches, providing tools that enable access to a hither to unreachable market segment and the export of services through outsourcing. As we get excited by the new opportunities we must pay close attention to the accompanying issues that we have in the past let slip by silently.
As we start to create our own services {think beyond IT here…the arts, music, creative, manufacturing } and build platforms that we hope to sell to consumers, we start to encounter terms such as Intellectual Property which often elicit fear as we do not want our IP rights to be abused and / or our work stolen. If this be the case, why is it then that we feel it is ok to infringe on the rights of others by blatantly disregarding their intellectual property by way of using software without commensurate compensation to its creator?
Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw
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The post is quite on point. Infringing on other people's hard work cannot be acceptable by all means; be it software or artistic work. I think there are always free alternatives. Otherwise it's only reasonable to be prepared to pay. For instance I prefer to use Libre Office on my Windows rather than go cracking MS Office. If you're able to see the bigger picture like depicted in the post, then you'll be ready to go the extra mile. It's a culture that we really ought to build. Mostly it's not even about the high price. Think about the cost of most mp3's for instance. $.99 or less! That said, I might have infringed once or twice and am not proud about it. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
hehehe..Brian, you are right...I stand corrected.
Timo.
On 11/28/11, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
@Timothy Actually its not your software, the user doesn't own the software just a license to use it. I stand to be corrected but in the instance that you are robbed your exclamation could be "my license to use software has been stolen"
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Unfortunately, software is still a weird concept for the common mwananchi to comprehend. Hardware is physical and you can touch it and it can even be stolen.
Software on the other hand is like a ghost...
When you open your office in the morning, after the thieves have left, you will exclaim MY COMPUTER HARDWARE HAVE BEEN STOLEN ! but you will not exclaim MY HARDWARE, WINDOWS XP, COREL DRAW AND OFFICE 2007 HAS BEEN STOLEN !
This might sound as if I am ignorant, but just try to explain what software is to a kawaida earthling and or better yet to your grandmother... Once they get the concept, try to explain to them why they should pay $100 for a "ghost" that is already available for free...
Timo.
On 11/28/11, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
I use free software. Gimp, Sharpdevelop, CDBurnerXP, Libreoffice, etc on Windows. The only thing that is paid for is the Windows OS.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kago Kagichiri <thekenyanprince@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't use legitimate software. Many programmers out there don't. However where we can (and feel moved to do so) smaller stolen gems from the internet e.g. website templates can be paid for once they have made the programmer money. Don't see myself paying for Dreamweaver any time soon though.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mbugua Njihia <mbugua@symbiotic.co.ke>wrote:
Do you pay for the software that you use? If not…why? Are the avenues to do so lacking? Do you perceive the value derived as less than the asking price?
Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw
Information technology has been seen as the sector that will in the coming decade create thousands of jobs by way of birthing new companies to exploit new niches, providing tools that enable access to a hither to unreachable market segment and the export of services through outsourcing. As we get excited by the new opportunities we must pay close attention to the accompanying issues that we have in the past let slip by silently.
As we start to create our own services {think beyond IT here…the arts, music, creative, manufacturing } and build platforms that we hope to sell to consumers, we start to encounter terms such as Intellectual Property which often elicit fear as we do not want our IP rights to be abused and / or our work stolen. If this be the case, why is it then that we feel it is ok to infringe on the rights of others by blatantly disregarding their intellectual property by way of using software without commensurate compensation to its creator?
Share your thoughts and comments here - http://bit.ly/srpXlw
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@Njihia, I'd like to share this with you for Mobile Dev groups out there. In my short journey over the past 2 weeks, I've uncovered a deadly form of trade practise that Kenyan MobiDevs and all those who are genuine with protecting their ideas or software or even deployments should be aware of. At the rate Mobile Devs are pushing efforts to create a success for themselves, there will be a time when these apps will become commercial hits and will be in demand. Therefore, others will want to try and get a share of the cake using shorter methods. If it took a MobiDev 2 years between idea generation to a full success, this is a huge loss for that person because someone who lacks originality is easily able to take the same concept and process to their own benefit within a matter of weeks. Therefore, it is very important that those who believe in IP Rights to take this matter very seriously and ensure that you will have the legal grounds to deal with many of the deadly and lethal practises by coders and their business masters. Reverse engineering of concepts, process or code in any manner whatsoever should be included in the person who takes IP Rights seriously. This is no issue of morals involved here, if you do not protect your ideas/works, you will be the big looser. We are a developing country, there are many who will take any necessary shortcuts to achieve success but we need to ensure IP Rights tops the ICT agenda. Some thots. :-)
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Brian L
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Brian Ngure
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Kago Kagichiri
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Mbugua Njihia
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Samuel Waithaka
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Timothy Mutugi