Safaricom Limited, Communication Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as 'Sambaza'
Hello there, I just signed the petition "Safaricom Limited, Communication Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as 'Sambaza'" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name. Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here: https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-... Thanks! Philip
+1 On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hello there,
I just signed the petition "Safaricom Limited, Communication Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as 'Sambaza'" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.
Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:
https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Thanks! Philip
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I guess there was a house in Westlands that was stocking weed, it unfortunately got fire and smoke found its way to Safaricom where everyone lost his/her mind. How could they do that? On 2 March 2015 at 12:29, Leonard Kore via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
+1
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hello there,
I just signed the petition "Safaricom Limited, Communication Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as 'Sambaza'" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.
Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:
https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Thanks! Philip
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Getting high on their own supply more like. Too much success so they be like "Mtado?" On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Leonard Kore via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
+1
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hello there,
I just signed the petition "Safaricom Limited, Communication Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as 'Sambaza'" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.
Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:
https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Thanks! Philip
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I too have signed at https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-... Regards, -- Davis Waithaka Elimu Holdings Limited www.elimu.co.ke On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Mutinda Kitana via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Getting high on their own supply more like. Too much success so they be like "Mtado?"
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Leonard Kore via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
+1
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hello there,
I just signed the petition "Safaricom Limited, Communication Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as 'Sambaza'" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.
Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:
https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Thanks! Philip
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Signing while i have moved to airtel data for the time being ... On 4 Mar 2015 09:36, "Davis Waithaka via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I too have signed at https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Regards, -- Davis Waithaka Elimu Holdings Limited www.elimu.co.ke
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Mutinda Kitana via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Getting high on their own supply more like. Too much success so they be like "Mtado?"
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Leonard Kore via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
+1
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hello there,
I just signed the petition "Safaricom Limited, Communication Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as 'Sambaza'" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.
Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:
https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Thanks! Philip
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I always used to wonder how this guys who used to sell data bundles were managing to do it at a cheaper rate than safaricom and still manage to make some money on it. I used to buy a 1GB bundle at Kes 600/- I guess they had to kill this business model for eating into their profit billions. On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Signing while i have moved to airtel data for the time being ... On 4 Mar 2015 09:36, "Davis Waithaka via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I too have signed at https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Regards, -- Davis Waithaka Elimu Holdings Limited www.elimu.co.ke
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Mutinda Kitana via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Getting high on their own supply more like. Too much success so they be like "Mtado?"
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Leonard Kore via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
+1
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hello there,
I just signed the petition "Safaricom Limited, Communication Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as 'Sambaza'" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.
Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:
https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Thanks! Philip
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I have signed the petition but, and excuse my ignorance, is Safcom bound by any law to respond to the petition? And act on it, for that matter? On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Jimmy Thuo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I always used to wonder how this guys who used to sell data bundles were managing to do it at a cheaper rate than safaricom and still manage to make some money on it. I used to buy a 1GB bundle at Kes 600/- I guess they had to kill this business model for eating into their profit billions.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Signing while i have moved to airtel data for the time being ... On 4 Mar 2015 09:36, "Davis Waithaka via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I too have signed at https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Regards, -- Davis Waithaka Elimu Holdings Limited www.elimu.co.ke
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Mutinda Kitana via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Getting high on their own supply more like. Too much success so they be like "Mtado?"
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Leonard Kore via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
+1
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hello there,
I just signed the petition "Safaricom Limited, Communication Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as 'Sambaza'" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.
Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:
https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Thanks! Philip
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I don't think Safaricom is bound by law to respond to the petition, but at least it bring the issues consumer have with their decisions to their attention. We currently have 154 supporters, I hope we get to 200. We can probably forward it to their corporate affairs people when we have got enough signatures. On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Bwana Lawi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I have signed the petition but, and excuse my ignorance, is Safcom bound by any law to respond to the petition? And act on it, for that matter?
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Jimmy Thuo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I always used to wonder how this guys who used to sell data bundles were managing to do it at a cheaper rate than safaricom and still manage to make some money on it. I used to buy a 1GB bundle at Kes 600/- I guess they had to kill this business model for eating into their profit billions.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Signing while i have moved to airtel data for the time being ... On 4 Mar 2015 09:36, "Davis Waithaka via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I too have signed at https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Regards, -- Davis Waithaka Elimu Holdings Limited www.elimu.co.ke
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Mutinda Kitana via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Getting high on their own supply more like. Too much success so they be like "Mtado?"
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Leonard Kore via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
+1
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> Hello there, > > I just signed the petition "Safaricom Limited, Communication > Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as > 'Sambaza'" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name. > > Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You > can read more and sign the petition here: > > > https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-... > > Thanks! > Philip > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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If Safaricom really cares about the consumer welfare they need not to be compelled to act under law. Dissent via online petitions,tweets or any other means are enough to send them to the drawing board if they are a listening and caring company. Those that can tweet and use online petitions are highly likely to be the most affected people by the change of sambaza bundle policy. Otherwise, network walitengenezea nani? regards, S Stephen Wanjau Tel:+254 722 238 165 | Skype ID: mana.nas | Twitter ID: uwanja <http://www.twitter.com/uwanja> | *It is within reach. Believe it. * On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I don't think Safaricom is bound by law to respond to the petition, but at least it bring the issues consumer have with their decisions to their attention. We currently have 154 supporters, I hope we get to 200. We can probably forward it to their corporate affairs people when we have got enough signatures.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Bwana Lawi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I have signed the petition but, and excuse my ignorance, is Safcom bound by any law to respond to the petition? And act on it, for that matter?
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Jimmy Thuo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I always used to wonder how this guys who used to sell data bundles were managing to do it at a cheaper rate than safaricom and still manage to make some money on it. I used to buy a 1GB bundle at Kes 600/- I guess they had to kill this business model for eating into their profit billions.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Signing while i have moved to airtel data for the time being ... On 4 Mar 2015 09:36, "Davis Waithaka via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I too have signed at https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Regards, -- Davis Waithaka Elimu Holdings Limited www.elimu.co.ke
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Mutinda Kitana via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Getting high on their own supply more like. Too much success so they be like "Mtado?"
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Leonard Kore via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> +1 > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> Hello there, >> >> I just signed the petition "Safaricom Limited, Communication >> Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as >> 'Sambaza'" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name. >> >> Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You >> can read more and sign the petition here: >> >> >> https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-... >> >> Thanks! >> Philip >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Leonard Kore > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Maybe they already considered this. They are waiting for Kenyans to move on. I'm not convinced Safcom didn't consider the backlash. Maybe they know nothing much will happen anyway. Guys will talk about moving to competition but few will actually do it. Is number portability still there?
*@Bwana Lawi,* *I think they may have studied the Kenyan mentality to perfection. Kenyans would complain bitterly and then forget with a week. So probably Safaricom knew Kenyans will rile for a week and then 'accept and move on.'* *But I think it is a bad idea, even when dealing with captive market like us.* *Even larger and more successful companies than Safaricom listen to feedback and respond. Apple doesn't all the time. They apologized and fixed the Apple Maps scandal. And fired Scott Forestal while at it.* *In the larger scheme of things globally, Safaricom is really a tiny company. Doing less than USD 2 billion a year doesn't buy you arrogance. We have companies that do 100 times that, and they remain committed to their consumers. It is no wonder Safaricom remain a big fish in a very small pond, and when African telco's like MTN has gone global an become major players, Safaricom remain a small local company, which had potential to grow. And please don't bring in Vodafone's ownership as preventing Safaricom's expansion, I don't think they do.* On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Bwana Lawi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Maybe they already considered this. They are waiting for Kenyans to move on.
I'm not convinced Safcom didn't consider the backlash. Maybe they know nothing much will happen anyway. Guys will talk about moving to competition but few will actually do it.
Is number portability still there?
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So guys there is an update regarding this, we have some mileage. Safaricom will launch a new data bundle that reverses the short duration of data bundle expiry. I'd say it's good news http://wp.me/p1qlhv-883 Regards, Martin Gicheru | Editor, Techweez <http://www.techweez.com> Skype ID: martingicheru | Twitter ID:@martingicheru <https://twitter.com/martingicheru> | Gplus: +MartinGicheru <http://google.com/+MartinGicheru> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
*@Bwana Lawi,*
*I think they may have studied the Kenyan mentality to perfection. Kenyans would complain bitterly and then forget with a week. So probably Safaricom knew Kenyans will rile for a week and then 'accept and move on.'*
*But I think it is a bad idea, even when dealing with captive market like us.*
*Even larger and more successful companies than Safaricom listen to feedback and respond. Apple doesn't all the time. They apologized and fixed the Apple Maps scandal. And fired Scott Forestal while at it.*
*In the larger scheme of things globally, Safaricom is really a tiny company. Doing less than USD 2 billion a year doesn't buy you arrogance. We have companies that do 100 times that, and they remain committed to their consumers. It is no wonder Safaricom remain a big fish in a very small pond, and when African telco's like MTN has gone global an become major players, Safaricom remain a small local company, which had potential to grow. And please don't bring in Vodafone's ownership as preventing Safaricom's expansion, I don't think they do.*
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Bwana Lawi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Maybe they already considered this. They are waiting for Kenyans to move on.
I'm not convinced Safcom didn't consider the backlash. Maybe they know nothing much will happen anyway. Guys will talk about moving to competition but few will actually do it.
Is number portability still there?
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@Martin, This is welcome news, I think most can live with 90 day expiry date. I was about to start drinking! On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:
So guys there is an update regarding this, we have some mileage. Safaricom will launch a new data bundle that reverses the short duration of data bundle expiry. I'd say it's good news http://wp.me/p1qlhv-883
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
*@Bwana Lawi,*
*I think they may have studied the Kenyan mentality to perfection. Kenyans would complain bitterly and then forget with a week. So probably Safaricom knew Kenyans will rile for a week and then 'accept and move on.'*
*But I think it is a bad idea, even when dealing with captive market like us.*
*Even larger and more successful companies than Safaricom listen to feedback and respond. Apple doesn't all the time. They apologized and fixed the Apple Maps scandal. And fired Scott Forestal while at it.*
*In the larger scheme of things globally, Safaricom is really a tiny company. Doing less than USD 2 billion a year doesn't buy you arrogance. We have companies that do 100 times that, and they remain committed to their consumers. It is no wonder Safaricom remain a big fish in a very small pond, and when African telco's like MTN has gone global an become major players, Safaricom remain a small local company, which had potential to grow. And please don't bring in Vodafone's ownership as preventing Safaricom's expansion, I don't think they do.*
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Bwana Lawi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Maybe they already considered this. They are waiting for Kenyans to move on.
I'm not convinced Safcom didn't consider the backlash. Maybe they know nothing much will happen anyway. Guys will talk about moving to competition but few will actually do it.
Is number portability still there?
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@Philip your petition got a mention in todays Nation. Well in. On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Martin,
This is welcome news, I think most can live with 90 day expiry date.
I was about to start drinking!
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> wrote:
So guys there is an update regarding this, we have some mileage. Safaricom will launch a new data bundle that reverses the short duration of data bundle expiry. I'd say it's good news http://wp.me/p1qlhv-883
Regards,
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
*@Bwana Lawi,*
*I think they may have studied the Kenyan mentality to perfection. Kenyans would complain bitterly and then forget with a week. So probably Safaricom knew Kenyans will rile for a week and then 'accept and move on.'*
*But I think it is a bad idea, even when dealing with captive market like us.*
*Even larger and more successful companies than Safaricom listen to feedback and respond. Apple doesn't all the time. They apologized and fixed the Apple Maps scandal. And fired Scott Forestal while at it.*
*In the larger scheme of things globally, Safaricom is really a tiny company. Doing less than USD 2 billion a year doesn't buy you arrogance. We have companies that do 100 times that, and they remain committed to their consumers. It is no wonder Safaricom remain a big fish in a very small pond, and when African telco's like MTN has gone global an become major players, Safaricom remain a small local company, which had potential to grow. And please don't bring in Vodafone's ownership as preventing Safaricom's expansion, I don't think they do.*
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Bwana Lawi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Maybe they already considered this. They are waiting for Kenyans to move on.
I'm not convinced Safcom didn't consider the backlash. Maybe they know nothing much will happen anyway. Guys will talk about moving to competition but few will actually do it.
Is number portability still there?
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Hallo guys, I have signed.It is a ridiculous move by safaricom.. Alex Gabriel On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Martin Gicheru via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
So guys there is an update regarding this, we have some mileage. Safaricom will launch a new data bundle that reverses the short duration of data bundle expiry. I'd say it's good news http://wp.me/p1qlhv-883
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
*@Bwana Lawi,*
*I think they may have studied the Kenyan mentality to perfection. Kenyans would complain bitterly and then forget with a week. So probably Safaricom knew Kenyans will rile for a week and then 'accept and move on.'*
*But I think it is a bad idea, even when dealing with captive market like us.*
*Even larger and more successful companies than Safaricom listen to feedback and respond. Apple doesn't all the time. They apologized and fixed the Apple Maps scandal. And fired Scott Forestal while at it.*
*In the larger scheme of things globally, Safaricom is really a tiny company. Doing less than USD 2 billion a year doesn't buy you arrogance. We have companies that do 100 times that, and they remain committed to their consumers. It is no wonder Safaricom remain a big fish in a very small pond, and when African telco's like MTN has gone global an become major players, Safaricom remain a small local company, which had potential to grow. And please don't bring in Vodafone's ownership as preventing Safaricom's expansion, I don't think they do.*
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Bwana Lawi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Maybe they already considered this. They are waiting for Kenyans to move on.
I'm not convinced Safcom didn't consider the backlash. Maybe they know nothing much will happen anyway. Guys will talk about moving to competition but few will actually do it.
Is number portability still there?
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Other than the greed angle on their RA team, could they be battling some serious fraud or revenue leak? I read some interesting motive in Safaricom's move and their controlled responses. *Disclaimer : I don't own any Safaricom line.* Tony.
Its all in the money. People were willing to pay 1,000/- for 1.5GB and with Unliminet, they started feeling it was a raw deal. They just increase the data and swallow the lost revenue. I bet their bottom line is not affected even if they offered 4GB at 1,000/- They have the numbers to sustain it. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Other than the greed angle on their RA team, could they be battling some serious fraud or revenue leak? I read some interesting motive in Safaricom's move and their controlled responses.
*Disclaimer : I don't own any Safaricom line.*
Tony.
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There's something related in US law called first sale doctrine[1]. It was recently in the news due to a court case, which involved purchase of textbooks from Asia (at dirt cheap rates), which were imported then resold to students in the US (who were paying obscene amounts for text books [2]). I think the law was in favour of the importer [3]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine 2. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_browse-b_mrr_1?fst=as%3Aoff&rh... 3. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/thai-student-protected-by-first-s... On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Mark Mwangi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Its all in the money. People were willing to pay 1,000/- for 1.5GB and with Unliminet, they started feeling it was a raw deal. They just increase the data and swallow the lost revenue. I bet their bottom line is not affected even if they offered 4GB at 1,000/- They have the numbers to sustain it.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Other than the greed angle on their RA team, could they be battling some serious fraud or revenue leak? I read some interesting motive in Safaricom's move and their controlled responses.
*Disclaimer : I don't own any Safaricom line.*
Tony.
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@Laban, The first sale concept appears to deal with copyright-able material such as books, movies and TV shows. The idea is when your 'purchase' a digital/or physical copyright-able material, certain restrictions as to how you can transfer ownership of that material apply. As far I know, there is no way to legally transfer purchased apps, musics, TV shows and movies purchase from Apple, Google or Amazon. But for things like data bundles and airtime, the concept is to widely application, but also this appear to be a modern concept initially introduced by Safaricom with airtime transfer (they could have been the first, I don't know) and now Safaricom seems to be testing the waters and see how the market takes it. Remember technology is way ahead of regulations, so industry leaders like Safaricom play a large role in how these things are eventually regulated. If consumers don;t raise their concerns, soon these kind of restrictions can become legal and enforceable by law. So talk now or don;t complain letter when Safaricom quotes a legal clause when they finally put a expiry time on your M-PESA balance. And I hope revisions to the ICT Bills deal with these things rather than focusing too much on those who 'misuse telecommunication equipment' laws used to deal with bloggers recently. But it appears the big Telcos have lobbying/financial muscles and the laws end up favoring them. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Laban Mwangi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
There's something related in US law called first sale doctrine[1]. It was recently in the news due to a court case, which involved purchase of textbooks from Asia (at dirt cheap rates), which were imported then resold to students in the US (who were paying obscene amounts for text books [2]). I think the law was in favour of the importer [3].
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine 2. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_browse-b_mrr_1?fst=as%3Aoff&rh... 3. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/thai-student-protected-by-first-s...
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Mark Mwangi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Its all in the money. People were willing to pay 1,000/- for 1.5GB and with Unliminet, they started feeling it was a raw deal. They just increase the data and swallow the lost revenue. I bet their bottom line is not affected even if they offered 4GB at 1,000/- They have the numbers to sustain it.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Other than the greed angle on their RA team, could they be battling some serious fraud or revenue leak? I read some interesting motive in Safaricom's move and their controlled responses.
*Disclaimer : I don't own any Safaricom line.*
Tony.
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+1 @philip Kind Regards, Kennedy KK Mobile: +254721699119 / +254725292261 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Laban,
The first sale concept appears to deal with copyright-able material such as books, movies and TV shows. The idea is when your 'purchase' a digital/or physical copyright-able material, certain restrictions as to how you can transfer ownership of that material apply. As far I know, there is no way to legally transfer purchased apps, musics, TV shows and movies purchase from Apple, Google or Amazon.
But for things like data bundles and airtime, the concept is to widely application, but also this appear to be a modern concept initially introduced by Safaricom with airtime transfer (they could have been the first, I don't know) and now Safaricom seems to be testing the waters and see how the market takes it.
Remember technology is way ahead of regulations, so industry leaders like Safaricom play a large role in how these things are eventually regulated. If consumers don;t raise their concerns, soon these kind of restrictions can become legal and enforceable by law.
So talk now or don;t complain letter when Safaricom quotes a legal clause when they finally put a expiry time on your M-PESA balance.
And I hope revisions to the ICT Bills deal with these things rather than focusing too much on those who 'misuse telecommunication equipment' laws used to deal with bloggers recently. But it appears the big Telcos have lobbying/financial muscles and the laws end up favoring them.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Laban Mwangi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
There's something related in US law called first sale doctrine[1]. It was recently in the news due to a court case, which involved purchase of textbooks from Asia (at dirt cheap rates), which were imported then resold to students in the US (who were paying obscene amounts for text books [2]). I think the law was in favour of the importer [3].
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine 2. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_browse-b_mrr_1?fst=as%3Aoff&rh... 3. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/thai-student-protected-by-first-s...
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Mark Mwangi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Its all in the money. People were willing to pay 1,000/- for 1.5GB and with Unliminet, they started feeling it was a raw deal. They just increase the data and swallow the lost revenue. I bet their bottom line is not affected even if they offered 4GB at 1,000/- They have the numbers to sustain it.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Other than the greed angle on their RA team, could they be battling some serious fraud or revenue leak? I read some interesting motive in Safaricom's move and their controlled responses.
*Disclaimer : I don't own any Safaricom line.*
Tony.
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I asked the CEO a question on twitter which he chose to ignore. If I buy airtime worth 10,000 and decide I want to sambaza 5 bob to everyone in my village, Safaricom has no problem with that. Because it is my 'property' I exchanged my OWN MONEY for the airtime. Why then does it become their business to decide how I should use my Data Bundles? Again, bought with my own money and is therefore my 'property'? I think success is getting to Safaricom's head and it's leaders are getting too arrogant about it! On 1 March 2015 at 13:06, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hello there,
I just signed the petition "Safaricom Limited, Communication Authority of Kenya: Remove the 20 MB cap on data bundle transfer, know as 'Sambaza'" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.
Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:
https://www.change.org/p/safaricom-limited-communication-authority-of-kenya-...
Thanks! Philip
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participants (16)
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Alex Gabriel -
Alvin Jason Ochieng -
Bwana Lawi -
Davis Waithaka -
Isaac Kiplagat -
Jimmy Thuo -
Kennedy Kairu Kariuki -
Laban Mwangi -
Leonard Kore -
Mark Mwangi -
Martin Gicheru -
Mouz -
Mutinda Kitana -
Philip Musyoki -
Stephen Wanjau -
Tony Likhanga