
Greetings Listers, It seems our websites are under attack from yonder: 1. *http://www.identity.go.ke/* 2. *http://kilonzoadvocates.co.ke/* Warm regards, Michael Bullut. --- *Cell:* *+254 723 393 114. **Skype Name:* *Michael Bullut.* ***Twitter:** @Kipsang <http://twitter.com/Kipsang/> * *Blog: http://www.kipsang.com/* *E-mail:* *main@kipsang.com* * * *---*

SMH On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Michael Bullut <main@kipsang.com> wrote:
Greetings Listers,
It seems our websites are under attack from yonder:
1. *http://www.identity.go.ke/* 2. *http://kilonzoadvocates.co.ke/*
Warm regards,
Michael Bullut.
---
*Cell:* *+254 723 393 114. **Skype Name:* *Michael Bullut.* ***Twitter:** @Kipsang <http://twitter.com/Kipsang/> * *Blog: http://www.kipsang.com/* *E-mail:* *main@kipsang.com* * * *---*
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Regards, Mark Mwangi markmwangi.me.ke

Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]

Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. [?] On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"

Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. [?]
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

most of the hacked sites whenever you use http://www.whoishostingthis.com/kilonzoadvocates.co.ke they hosted by safaricom. Safaricom are eating more they can chew or vice, when Bob decided to be a jack of all trades, i.e. selling Compact Disks from safaricom shop to hosting servers on Safaricom business, not forgeting selling 5/= airtime on the streets things are becoming more and more thick, in my opinion when it comes the time to reveiw their licence CCk or whoever should force them to subdivide the business units into companies(follow Nashud's Merari suit) this will ensure each and every company .. Data, Voice, Retail, Mpesa etc has its own QOS and can be struck off the licenses easily without affecting the other services especially Mpesa. My 2 Cents Antony... On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. [?]
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website? On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. [?]
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."

The blame is 90% probably with the Techie. ./P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites... Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website? On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin < paultified@gmail.com > wrote: Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi < motobaridi@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < tlikhanga@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < tlikhanga@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke

It's the 10% that worries me more. In many cases, the techie will get bashed hard enough that they'll fix the issue ASAP. When it's the host, a whole lot of blame-shifting and finger-pointing goes on before they admit their fail (if they admit it at all). OTOH, I'd be surprised if Safcom or any other host worth their weight in sand do not have some form of monitoring. Not just for the servers, but for the applications. A few of the bigger hosts I have worked with do monitor the installed apps (Wordpress, Joomla, etc) and notify you whenever something seems odd - script injections, loops consuming 100% processor cycles, other server nasties etc etc. <rant> At the risk of appearing petty, Safcom do seem to have become a jack of all trades, without dedicating reasonable resources to any particular one. Support for these "add-on" services, hosting, is composed mostly of canned messages, and not sufficient technical wizards. Joe Random will happily accept the jargony excuses, the seasoned webmaster/server admin will pull their hair out in clumps trying to make sense of obviously silly scripted responses: Server admin: I can't access my VM. Support Tech: Have you tried restarting it? Server admin: <mumbles unprintables [CENSORED]!!! > </rant> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Pride Njukia <pride@asg.co.ke> wrote:
The blame is 90% probably with the Techie.
./P ------------------------------ *From: *"Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites...
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Pride Njukia <pride@asg.co.ke> wrote:
The blame is 90% probably with the Techie.
./P ------------------------------ *From: *"Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites...
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Pride Njukia <pride@asg.co.ke> wrote:
The blame is 90% probably with the Techie.
./P ------------------------------ *From: *"Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites...
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"

@motobaridi :) On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:43 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote:
It's the 10% that worries me more. In many cases, the techie will get bashed hard enough that they'll fix the issue ASAP. When it's the host, a whole lot of blame-shifting and finger-pointing goes on before they admit their fail (if they admit it at all). OTOH, I'd be surprised if Safcom or any other host worth their weight in sand do not have some form of monitoring. Not just for the servers, but for the applications. A few of the bigger hosts I have worked with do monitor the installed apps (Wordpress, Joomla, etc) and notify you whenever something seems odd - script injections, loops consuming 100% processor cycles, other server nasties etc etc. <rant> At the risk of appearing petty, Safcom do seem to have become a jack of all trades, without dedicating reasonable resources to any particular one. Support for these "add-on" services, hosting, is composed mostly of canned messages, and not sufficient technical wizards. Joe Random will happily accept the jargony excuses, the seasoned webmaster/server admin will pull their hair out in clumps trying to make sense of obviously silly scripted responses: Server admin: I can't access my VM. Support Tech: Have you tried restarting it? Server admin: <mumbles unprintables [CENSORED]!!! > </rant>
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Pride Njukia <pride@asg.co.ke> wrote:
The blame is 90% probably with the Techie.
./P ------------------------------ *From: *"Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites...
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Pride Njukia <pride@asg.co.ke> wrote:
The blame is 90% probably with the Techie.
./P ------------------------------ *From: *"Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites...
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Pride Njukia <pride@asg.co.ke> wrote:
The blame is 90% probably with the Techie.
./P ------------------------------ *From: *"Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites...
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

well there is another one. It seems they are targeting the government or government agencies sites. here is another one and an Asik IqBal has hacked it. imethawasco.co.ke On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
@motobaridi :)
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:43 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote:
It's the 10% that worries me more. In many cases, the techie will get bashed hard enough that they'll fix the issue ASAP. When it's the host, a whole lot of blame-shifting and finger-pointing goes on before they admit their fail (if they admit it at all). OTOH, I'd be surprised if Safcom or any other host worth their weight in sand do not have some form of monitoring. Not just for the servers, but for the applications. A few of the bigger hosts I have worked with do monitor the installed apps (Wordpress, Joomla, etc) and notify you whenever something seems odd - script injections, loops consuming 100% processor cycles, other server nasties etc etc. <rant> At the risk of appearing petty, Safcom do seem to have become a jack of all trades, without dedicating reasonable resources to any particular one. Support for these "add-on" services, hosting, is composed mostly of canned messages, and not sufficient technical wizards. Joe Random will happily accept the jargony excuses, the seasoned webmaster/server admin will pull their hair out in clumps trying to make sense of obviously silly scripted responses: Server admin: I can't access my VM. Support Tech: Have you tried restarting it? Server admin: <mumbles unprintables [CENSORED]!!! > </rant>
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Pride Njukia <pride@asg.co.ke> wrote:
The blame is 90% probably with the Techie.
./P ------------------------------ *From: *"Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites...
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Pride Njukia <pride@asg.co.ke> wrote:
The blame is 90% probably with the Techie.
./P ------------------------------ *From: *"Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites...
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Pride Njukia <pride@asg.co.ke> wrote:
The blame is 90% probably with the Techie.
./P ------------------------------ *From: *"Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites...
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- "Aim for the top. It is less crowded there." http://qhim.wordpress.com

What was hacked was the application running and not the server, or is it not??? ./P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites... Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website? On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin < paultified@gmail.com > wrote: Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi < motobaridi@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < tlikhanga@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < tlikhanga@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke

My point exactly! If it's the server that was compromised, I'd apportion blame to Safaricom, and all websites hosted should have been defaced - and even server formatted! However, for a few websites when there are several others hosted on the very same servers, I don't get the logic behind someone blaming Safarim, and no, I have not been paid by Safaricom to defend them, nor to blame the techies cobbling up websites without security considerations! On 19 August 2013 13:52, Pride Njukia <pride@asg.co.ke> wrote:
What was hacked was the application running and not the server, or is it not???
./P
------------------------------ *From: *"Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Monday, 19 August, 2013 2:14:40 PM *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites...
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."

both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver.. :) Antony... On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. [?]
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%. International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric? Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver..
:)
Antony...
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. [?]
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

+1 & RT @Kivuva On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%.
International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric?
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver..
:)
Antony...
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. [?]
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year [?]
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

I don't know, I think all Safaricom does is to provide a virtual machine. Installation and configuration of the server OS and applications is actually done by the client. Maybe Safaricom should provide training or the client should seek the services of professional testers... On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
+1 & RT @Kivuva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%.
International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric?
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver..
:)
Antony...
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. [?]
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ > Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? > I've had no joy since February this year [?] > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ > Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? > I've had no joy since February this year [?] > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Derrick, That is exactly one of the things I though, but I am not sure. The other is that Safaricom has webserver and something like CPanel for managing Virtual Hosting. If anyone is hosting their website with Safaricom, please tell us what it is like. Is it (a) VM or (b) CPanel?? Whichever way, it would be better if we knew the actual nature of the compromise before we can blame anyone. How was the compromise achieved? What application led to it? On 19 August 2013 15:02, Derrick Wesonga <wesongaderrick@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know, I think all Safaricom does is to provide a virtual machine. Installation and configuration of the server OS and applications is actually done by the client. Maybe Safaricom should provide training or the client should seek the services of professional testers...
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
+1 & RT @Kivuva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%.
International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric?
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver..
:)
Antony...
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) > sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. > [?] > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone > out of a window > //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."

If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes! On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 & RT @Kivuva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%.
International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric?
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver..
:)
Antony...
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. [?]
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ > Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? > I've had no joy since February this year [?] > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
--
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>wrote:
> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ > Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? > I've had no joy since February this year [?] > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Kind Regards, Moses M.G.

+1 @M.G On 19 August 2013 15:05, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes!
On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 & RT @Kivuva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%.
International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric?
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver..
:)
Antony...
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) > sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. > [?] > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone > out of a window > //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Kind Regards,
Moses M.G.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."

From this trail you can almost spot the guilty plus the techie who does not want to go overboard and provide a secured platform; Of-course at server level some level of security is more often than not applied and that is why some sites remain up and running "you can be shocked at the number of hack attempts most web servers get*
+1 @M.G ./P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Monday, 19 August, 2013 3:08:34 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites... +1 @M.G On 19 August 2013 15:05, Moses M.G < mouzmuyer@gmail.com > wrote: If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes! On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani < kimanianthoni@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> +1 & RT @Kivuva On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva < Kivuva@transworldafrica.com > wrote: <blockquote> Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%. International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric? Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani < kimanianthoni@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver.. :) Antony... On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website? On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin < paultified@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi < motobaridi@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < tlikhanga@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < tlikhanga@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- Kind Regards, Moses M.G. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke

Safaricom hosting is Cpanel via https with a self signed signature. eg https://cpanel02.safaricombusiness.co.ke:2083/ On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
+1 @M.G
On 19 August 2013 15:05, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes!
On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 & RT @Kivuva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%.
International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric?
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver..
:)
Antony...
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. > Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the > petrol station > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) >> sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. >> [?] >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone >> out of a window >> //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Kind Regards,
Moses M.G.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Nice one. So Safaricom cannot afford a digital certificate and uses self-signed? In that case I wonder if they can afford a IDS/IPS system for lazy clients. I rest my case now. I don't care about whose website went anyway. On 19 August 2013 15:20, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Safaricom hosting is Cpanel via https with a self signed signature. eg https://cpanel02.safaricombusiness.co.ke:2083/
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
+1 @M.G
On 19 August 2013 15:05, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes!
On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 & RT @Kivuva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%.
International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric?
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver..
:)
Antony...
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the > configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by > them is secure? > So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities > and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend > that ensure all this happens automagically?? > > Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom > or the techie cobbling up together the website? > > > > On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. >> Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the >> petrol station >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) >>> sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. >>> [?] >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone >>> out of a window >>> //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Kind Regards,
Moses M.G.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."

The CMS sites are the main target; especially those using themes/templates from untrusted sources as they have vulnarabilities that designers seem not to be aware of. Notice; imethawasco.co.ke/ is built on Wordpress while http://www.identity.go.ke/ uses Joomla. The price pple pay for easy cash using CMSs. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Nice one. So Safaricom cannot afford a digital certificate and uses self-signed? In that case I wonder if they can afford a IDS/IPS system for lazy clients.
I rest my case now. I don't care about whose website went anyway.
On 19 August 2013 15:20, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Safaricom hosting is Cpanel via https with a self signed signature. eg https://cpanel02.safaricombusiness.co.ke:2083/
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
+1 @M.G
On 19 August 2013 15:05, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes!
On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 & RT @Kivuva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%.
International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric?
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
> both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the > drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the > government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver.. > > :) > > Antony... > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < > odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the >> configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by >> them is secure? >> So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted >> entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software >> frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? >> >> Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom >> or the techie cobbling up together the website? >> >> >> >> On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host >>> there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to >>> the petrol station >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) >>>> sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. >>>> [?] >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone >>>> out of a window >>>> //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Kind Regards,
Moses M.G.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- MARINDANY EVANS L.

Seeking enlightenment: is there a gov department responsible for these "e-projects" or is every parastatal, ministry etc free to roll with the lowest bidder? That aside, looking at the preference for Joomla by .go.ke "devs", and with the counties now all currently seeking web devs for their websites, it's only a matter of time before we have another spate of hacked .go.ke sites. I predict 7/10 will be Joomla [?] . Rinse. Repeat. //MB On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Evans Marindany <prosnave@gmail.com> wrote:
The CMS sites are the main target; especially those using themes/templates from untrusted sources as they have vulnarabilities that designers seem not to be aware of. Notice; imethawasco.co.ke/ is built on Wordpress while http://www.identity.go.ke/ uses Joomla. The price pple pay for easy cash using CMSs.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Nice one. So Safaricom cannot afford a digital certificate and uses self-signed? In that case I wonder if they can afford a IDS/IPS system for lazy clients.
I rest my case now. I don't care about whose website went anyway.
On 19 August 2013 15:20, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Safaricom hosting is Cpanel via https with a self signed signature. eg https://cpanel02.safaricombusiness.co.ke:2083/
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
+1 @M.G
On 19 August 2013 15:05, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes!
On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
+1 & RT @Kivuva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
> Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should > have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their > servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the > prevalence can drop upto 90%. > > International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured > by a lower metric? > > Regards > > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva > twitter.com/lordmwesh > google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh > > > On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote: > >> both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the >> drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the >> government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver.. >> >> :) >> >> Antony... >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < >> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the >>> configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by >>> them is secure? >>> So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted >>> entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software >>> frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? >>> >>> Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it >>> Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host >>>> there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to >>>> the petrol station >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi < >>>> motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) >>>>> sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. >>>>> [?] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>>>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>>>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing >>>>> someone out of a window >>>>> //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Kind Regards,
Moses M.G.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- MARINDANY EVANS L.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Evans Marindany <prosnave@gmail.com> wrote:
The CMS sites are the main target; especially those using themes/templates from untrusted sources as they have vulnarabilities that designers seem not to be aware of. Notice; imethawasco.co.ke/ is built on Wordpress while http://www.identity.go.ke/ uses Joomla. The price pple pay for easy cash using CMSs.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Nice one. So Safaricom cannot afford a digital certificate and uses self-signed? In that case I wonder if they can afford a IDS/IPS system for lazy clients.
I rest my case now. I don't care about whose website went anyway.
On 19 August 2013 15:20, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Safaricom hosting is Cpanel via https with a self signed signature. eg https://cpanel02.safaricombusiness.co.ke:2083/
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
+1 @M.G
On 19 August 2013 15:05, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes!
On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
+1 & RT @Kivuva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
> Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should > have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their > servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the > prevalence can drop upto 90%. > > International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured > by a lower metric? > > Regards > > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva > twitter.com/lordmwesh > google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh > > > On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote: > >> both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the >> drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the >> government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver.. >> >> :) >> >> Antony... >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < >> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the >>> configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by >>> them is secure? >>> So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted >>> entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software >>> frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? >>> >>> Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it >>> Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host >>>> there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to >>>> the petrol station >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi < >>>> motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) >>>>> sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. >>>>> [?] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>>>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>>>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing >>>>> someone out of a window >>>>> //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Kind Regards,
Moses M.G.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- MARINDANY EVANS L.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"

Most of the websites are 'designed' using freely downloaded templates. IPS and IDS may not catch all malicious scripts. Even Godaddy had a 'silent' incident where they assisted more than 400 clients to fix their websites. The techies must learn to develop safe templates or just subscribe to a reliable services...e.g rockettheme.com or joomlart. You may have a look at http://blog.sucuri.net/2013/08/joomla-hacks-part-i-phishing.html . Most IPS/IDS also raise many false positives...so a human error on the part of the sys admin can also be possible. But all in all... the techies must style up! On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:18 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote:
Seeking enlightenment: is there a gov department responsible for these "e-projects" or is every parastatal, ministry etc free to roll with the lowest bidder? That aside, looking at the preference for Joomla by .go.ke "devs", and with the counties now all currently seeking web devs for their websites, it's only a matter of time before we have another spate of hacked .go.kesites. I predict 7/10 will be Joomla [?] .
Rinse. Repeat.
//MB
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Evans Marindany <prosnave@gmail.com>wrote:
The CMS sites are the main target; especially those using themes/templates from untrusted sources as they have vulnarabilities that designers seem not to be aware of. Notice; imethawasco.co.ke/ is built on Wordpress while http://www.identity.go.ke/ uses Joomla. The price pple pay for easy cash using CMSs.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Nice one. So Safaricom cannot afford a digital certificate and uses self-signed? In that case I wonder if they can afford a IDS/IPS system for lazy clients.
I rest my case now. I don't care about whose website went anyway.
On 19 August 2013 15:20, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Safaricom hosting is Cpanel via https with a self signed signature. eg https://cpanel02.safaricombusiness.co.ke:2083/
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 @M.G
On 19 August 2013 15:05, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes!
On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
> +1 & RT @Kivuva > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com > > wrote: > >> Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host >> should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on >> their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but >> the prevalence can drop upto 90%. >> >> International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured >> by a lower metric? >> >> Regards >> >> ______________________ >> Mwendwa Kivuva >> twitter.com/lordmwesh >> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh >> >> >> On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the >>> drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the >>> government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver.. >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Antony... >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < >>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the >>>> configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by >>>> them is secure? >>>> So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted >>>> entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software >>>> frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? >>>> >>>> Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it >>>> Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host >>>>> there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to >>>>> the petrol station >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi < >>>>> motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) >>>>>> sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. >>>>>> [?] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>>>>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>>>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>>>>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>>>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing >>>>>> someone out of a window >>>>>> //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>> Nairobi,KE >>>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
-- Kind Regards,
Moses M.G.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- MARINDANY EVANS L.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Evans Marindany <prosnave@gmail.com>wrote:
The CMS sites are the main target; especially those using themes/templates from untrusted sources as they have vulnarabilities that designers seem not to be aware of. Notice; imethawasco.co.ke/ is built on Wordpress while http://www.identity.go.ke/ uses Joomla. The price pple pay for easy cash using CMSs.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Nice one. So Safaricom cannot afford a digital certificate and uses self-signed? In that case I wonder if they can afford a IDS/IPS system for lazy clients.
I rest my case now. I don't care about whose website went anyway.
On 19 August 2013 15:20, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Safaricom hosting is Cpanel via https with a self signed signature. eg https://cpanel02.safaricombusiness.co.ke:2083/
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 @M.G
On 19 August 2013 15:05, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes!
On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
> +1 & RT @Kivuva > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com > > wrote: > >> Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host >> should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on >> their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but >> the prevalence can drop upto 90%. >> >> International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured >> by a lower metric? >> >> Regards >> >> ______________________ >> Mwendwa Kivuva >> twitter.com/lordmwesh >> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh >> >> >> On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the >>> drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the >>> government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver.. >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Antony... >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < >>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the >>>> configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by >>>> them is secure? >>>> So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted >>>> entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software >>>> frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? >>>> >>>> Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it >>>> Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host >>>>> there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to >>>>> the petrol station >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi < >>>>> motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) >>>>>> sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. >>>>>> [?] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>>>>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>>>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>>>>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >>>>>>> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing >>>>>> someone out of a window >>>>>> //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>> Nairobi,KE >>>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
-- Kind Regards,
Moses M.G.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- MARINDANY EVANS L.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?"
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

I know they can afford all those things and then some! I'm not even sure who said they host said hacked sites .... I've been hosting more than 10 sites at Safaricom and apart from the occasional upgrade have rarely had an issue. While my sites are not high profile, it really is up to me to ensure they are safe and hacker proof including scripts to monitor un-sanctioned changes. On the other hand this is a good opportunity for all of us especially clients to learn that good services cost some dosh. Often times clients do not pay for support and upgrade services until things are thick. This includes the certificate services and and other services. JGitau Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2013, at 16:42, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Nice one. So Safaricom cannot afford a digital certificate and uses self-signed? In that case I wonder if they can afford a IDS/IPS system for lazy clients.
I rest my case now. I don't care about whose website went anyway.
On 19 August 2013 15:20, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Safaricom hosting is Cpanel via https with a self signed signature. eg https://cpanel02.safaricombusiness.co.ke:2083/
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 @M.G
On 19 August 2013 15:05, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes!
On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 & RT @Kivuva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%.
International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric?
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote: > both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver.. > > :) > > Antony... > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >> Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? >> So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? >> >> Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website? >> >> >> >> On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. >>>> <4F2.gif> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year <33A.gif> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >>>>> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year <33A.gif> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window >>>> //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Kind Regards,
Moses M.G.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Both the developer and the host, can use this tool ----------------> Acunetix You can google that :) NB: Run the tool on your site and see how many vulnerabilities are there. ./P ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gitau" <jgitau@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Monday, 19 August, 2013 9:01:44 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites... I know they can afford all those things and then some! I'm not even sure who said they host said hacked sites .... I've been hosting more than 10 sites at Safaricom and apart from the occasional upgrade have rarely had an issue. While my sites are not high profile, it really is up to me to ensure they are safe and hacker proof including scripts to monitor un-sanctioned changes. On the other hand this is a good opportunity for all of us especially clients to learn that good services cost some dosh. Often times clients do not pay for support and upgrade services until things are thick. This includes the certificate services and and other services. JGitau Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2013, at 16:42, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com > wrote: Nice one. So Safaricom cannot afford a digital certificate and uses self-signed? In that case I wonder if they can afford a IDS/IPS system for lazy clients. I rest my case now. I don't care about whose website went anyway. On 19 August 2013 15:20, Paul Kevin < paultified@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Safaricom hosting is Cpanel via https with a self signed signature. eg https://cpanel02.safaricombusiness.co.ke:2083/ On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> +1 @M.G On 19 August 2013 15:05, Moses M.G < mouzmuyer@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes! On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani < kimanianthoni@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> +1 & RT @Kivuva On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva < Kivuva@transworldafrica.com > wrote: <blockquote> Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%. International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric? Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani < kimanianthoni@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver.. :) Antony... On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website? On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin < paultified@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi < motobaridi@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. <4F2.gif> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < tlikhanga@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year <33A.gif> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < tlikhanga@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent past? I've had no joy since February this year <33A.gif> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone out of a window //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- Kind Regards, Moses M.G. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke </blockquote> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Pride Njukia Altech Swift Global Limited Embankment Plaza, 6th Floor | Longonot Road, off Kilimanjaro Ave. Tel: +254 20 692 1000 | Mobile: +254 733 220232 pride@asg.co.ke | Website: http://www.asg.co.ke

before we put any other example let me go back to @Derrick , when you solicit for hosted services as a user i.e. provisioning of virtual servers and space do you enquire on security? or you implement the security yourself if the latter imagine each client coming in with their own security appliances, Safaricom data center will be full of Big IP, juniper, cisco Checkpoint et al it would make no business sense, thus it is the primary responsibility of the provider to issue security and if something happens to the hosts they should be in a position to alert the users. Yes end users should also look into security but the ratio between Saf and other hosting co in security issues is alarming. Antony.... On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
If you spill tea on your white carpet, is it the landlord's fault...you know,coz he rented you the house? I guess not! If some websites are running securely on Safaricom hosting, doesn't that mean some people have not secured theirs hence the hacking? Whatever happenned to being a man(or woman) and owning up to one's mistakes!
On 19 August 2013 14:56, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 & RT @Kivuva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Actually, the host is to blame more than the client. The host should have tools to monitor all kinds of activities, scripts, e.t.c on their servers and take proactive measures. Hacking will still be there, but the prevalence can drop upto 90%.
International hosting companies do this, why should we be measured by a lower metric?
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 19 August 2013 14:33, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
both, when you have an accident by a matatu, we not only blame the drunk driver, we also blame the owner for employing him, plus the government for being passed by corruptly by the drunk driver..
:)
Antony...
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) hosted by them is secure? So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software frontend that ensure all this happens automagically??
Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom or the techie cobbling up together the website?
On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin <paultified@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to the petrol station
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com>wrote:
> Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) > sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. > [?] > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ >> Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent >> past? I've had no joy since February this year [?] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone > out of a window > //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- Kind Regards,
Moses M.G.
_______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

The host has a big part to play in security. Bigger international hosting companies are proactive on security. Ultimately the developer is reponsible for their own websites security but what good is it if a developer pulls all the security measures only for a hacker to gain access to the server through another website or directly through the host and mess up his website. ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Lunes, 19 de Agosto 2013 12:14:40 | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hacked Websites... | Wait a moment! Is it Safaricom's duty to ensure that the | configuration of all websites (httpd.conf/nginx.conf/my.cnf/etc) | hosted by them is secure? | So some folks at Safaricom have to sit down with the hosted entities | and run an audit of the websites, or Safaricom have a software | frontend that ensure all this happens automagically?? | Someone please tell me who needs to take the blame? Is it Safaricom | or the techie cobbling up together the website? | On 19 August 2013 13:03, Paul Kevin < paultified@gmail.com > wrote: | | Are these hosted by safcom? If yes, why do people still host there. | | Its like being sold for water instead of petrol and still going to | | the petrol station | | | On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, motobaridi < motobaridi@gmail.com | | > | | wrote: | | | | Once managed to get to the homepage (after countless timeouts) | | | sometime in June, but all links from there were dead. | | | | | | On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < | | | tlikhanga@gmail.com | | | > wrote: | | | | | | | Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ | | | | | | | | | | Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent | | | | past? | | | | I've had no joy since February this year | | | | | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | | | | | | | | skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | | | | | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | | | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | | | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | | | | | Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | | | | | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | | | | | Other services @ http://my.co..ke | | | | | | | | | -- | | | | | | On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tony Likhanga < | | | tlikhanga@gmail.com | | | > wrote: | | | | | | | Talking of http://www.identity.go.ke/ | | | | | | | | | | Has anyone had any success in accessing the site in the recent | | | | past? | | | | I've had no joy since February this year | | | | | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | | | | | | | | skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | | | | | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | | | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | | | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | | | | | Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | | | | | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | | | | | Other services @ http://my.co..ke | | | | | | | | | -- | | | | | | //defenestration (diːˌfɛnɪˈstreɪʃən): the act of throwing someone | | | out | | | of a window | | | | | | //darwin spins in his grave "why is that fcuk still alive?" | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | | | | skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | Other services @ http://my.co..ke | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | skunkworks mailing list | | | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | ------------ | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | ------------ | | | Skunkworks Rules | | | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | ------------ | | | Other services @ http://my.co..ke | | -- | Best regards, | Odhiambo WASHINGTON, | Nairobi,KE | +254733744121/+254722743223 | "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." | _______________________________________________ | skunkworks mailing list | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | ------------ | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | ------------ | Skunkworks Rules | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | ------------ | Other services @ http://my.co.ke
participants (16)
-
Antony Kimani
-
Derrick Wesonga
-
Dickson Kimathi
-
Evans Marindany
-
John Gitau
-
Kivuva
-
Mark Mwangi
-
Michael Bullut
-
Mike M.
-
Moses M.G
-
motobaridi
-
Odhiambo Washington
-
Paul Kevin
-
Pride Njukia
-
Steve Obbayi
-
Tony Likhanga