Google, Apple and Microsoft telecoms
iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft will run their own telecoms am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing things especially when it comes to data plans -- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya
Kindly expound : - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason they've gone voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps? ./bernard sent from my android device. On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft will run their own telecoms
am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing things especially when it comes to data plans
-- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya
I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract people who like working on physical stuff while software companies attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous in my books. On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Kindly expound : - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason they've gone voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps?
./bernard sent from my android device.
On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft will run their own telecoms
am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing things especially when it comes to data plans
-- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya
-- Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.posterous.com
.... or the software company could buy the "core competencies" by buying the hardware company, and do quite well in, hypothetically, the telecom industry... probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the software company more efficient... after all, its binary data that runs these hardware, not bolts and gears hmm.... i wonder how a skunkworks telco would do :-). I'm sure we have every professional needed, from hardware to software to PR and marketing... anyways... back to code-labour On 8/14/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract people who like working on physical stuff while software companies attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous in my books.
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Kindly expound : - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason they've gone voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps?
./bernard sent from my android device.
On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft will run their own telecoms
am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing things especially when it comes to data plans
-- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
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correction: probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the *hardware* company more efficient On 8/14/11, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
.... or the software company could buy the "core competencies" by buying the hardware company, and do quite well in, hypothetically, the telecom industry... probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the software company more efficient... after all, its binary data that runs these hardware, not bolts and gears
hmm.... i wonder how a skunkworks telco would do :-). I'm sure we have every professional needed, from hardware to software to PR and marketing...
anyways...
back to code-labour
On 8/14/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract people who like working on physical stuff while software companies attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous in my books.
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Kindly expound : - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason they've gone voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps?
./bernard sent from my android device.
On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft will run their own telecoms
am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing things especially when it comes to data plans
-- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
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computer engineers and electrical engineers who are the core of telecommunications are as competent in coding if not more than computer scientists. Hardware is not about screw drivers nuts and bolts, its about the low level code that contols that make the hardware work. The Apis computers scientists program against are designed by the electrical/computer engineers. in fact these engineers can do everything comp scientists do but comp scientists cant qualify to do what elec/comp engineers do. ----- "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
correction:
probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the *hardware* company more efficient
On 8/14/11, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
.... or the software company could buy the "core competencies" by buying the hardware company, and do quite well in, hypothetically, the telecom industry... probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the software company more efficient... after all, its binary data that runs these hardware, not bolts and gears
hmm.... i wonder how a skunkworks telco would do :-). I'm sure we have every professional needed, from hardware to software to PR and marketing...
anyways...
back to code-labour
On 8/14/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract people who like working on physical stuff while software companies attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous in my books.
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Kindly expound : - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason they've gone voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps?
./bernard sent from my android device.
On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft will run their own telecoms
am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing things especially when it comes to data plans
-- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
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hmm... I guess you're ryt steve so much for skunky-telco, :-D On 8/14/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
computer engineers and electrical engineers who are the core of telecommunications are as competent in coding if not more than computer scientists. Hardware is not about screw drivers nuts and bolts, its about the low level code that contols that make the hardware work. The Apis computers scientists program against are designed by the electrical/computer engineers. in fact these engineers can do everything comp scientists do but comp scientists cant qualify to do what elec/comp engineers do.
----- "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
correction:
probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the *hardware* company more efficient
On 8/14/11, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
.... or the software company could buy the "core competencies" by buying the hardware company, and do quite well in, hypothetically, the telecom industry... probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the software company more efficient... after all, its binary data that runs these hardware, not bolts and gears
hmm.... i wonder how a skunkworks telco would do :-). I'm sure we have every professional needed, from hardware to software to PR and marketing...
anyways...
back to code-labour
On 8/14/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract people who like working on physical stuff while software companies attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous in my books.
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Kindly expound : - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason they've gone voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps?
./bernard sent from my android device.
On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft will run their own telecoms
am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing things especially when it comes to data plans
-- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya
-- Regards,
Mark Mwangi
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What about the business acumen required? The technical know-how notwithstanding, the telecom industry is extremely versatile, competition is stiff. For anyone venturing into this, irrespective of capital base, mastering the market dynamics will determine success or burnt fingers. Bernard On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
hmm... I guess you're ryt steve
so much for skunky-telco, :-D
On 8/14/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
computer engineers and electrical engineers who are the core of telecommunications are as competent in coding if not more than computer scientists.
Hardware
is not about screw drivers nuts and bolts, its about the low level code that contols that make the hardware work. The Apis computers scientists program against are designed by the electrical/computer engineers. in fact these engineers can do everything comp scientists do but comp scientists cant qualify to do what elec/comp engineers do.
----- "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
correction:
probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the *hardware* company more efficient
On 8/14/11, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
.... or the software company could buy the "core competencies" by buying the hardware company, and do quite well in, hypothetically, the telecom industry... probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the software company more efficient... after all, its binary data that runs these hardware, not bolts and gears
hmm.... i wonder how a skunkworks telco would do :-). I'm sure we have every professional needed, from hardware to software to PR and marketing...
anyways...
back to code-labour
On 8/14/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract people who like working on physical stuff while software companies attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous in my books.
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Kindly expound : - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason they've gone voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps?
./bernard sent from my android device.
On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: > iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft will run their > own telecoms > > am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing things > especially when it comes to data plans > > > -- > -erastus > +254733725373 > tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by > ussdtweet|messaging365 > Nairobi Kenya
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true.... but to help give it a marketing boost (& a fashionable entrance), skunk-telco could start off with nationwide 3G/4G coverage, unthrottled unlimited data plans, cheap bundles..... may be industrial-grade wifi transmitters on every cell tower... skunk-telco could save cost with open source skunk-code, a few volunteer staff.... modest profit-making. .... well, with the above, i'd buy a SIM and volunteer for customer care on friday nights :-) ..... (... yeah, i may need to find a social life) On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What about the business acumen required? The technical know-how notwithstanding, the telecom industry is extremely versatile, competition is stiff. For anyone venturing into this, irrespective of capital base, mastering the market dynamics will determine success or burnt fingers.
Bernard
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
hmm... I guess you're ryt steve
so much for skunky-telco, :-D
On 8/14/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
computer engineers and electrical engineers who are the core of telecommunications are as competent in coding if not more than computer scientists.
Hardware
is not about screw drivers nuts and bolts, its about the low level code that contols that make the hardware work. The Apis computers scientists program against are designed by the electrical/computer engineers. in fact these engineers can do everything comp scientists do but comp scientists cant qualify to do what elec/comp engineers do.
----- "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
correction:
probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the *hardware* company more efficient
On 8/14/11, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
.... or the software company could buy the "core competencies" by buying the hardware company, and do quite well in, hypothetically, the telecom industry... probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the software company more efficient... after all, its binary data that runs these hardware, not bolts and gears
hmm.... i wonder how a skunkworks telco would do :-). I'm sure we have every professional needed, from hardware to software to PR and marketing...
anyways...
back to code-labour
On 8/14/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract people who like working on physical stuff while software companies attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous in my books.
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: > Kindly expound : > - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? > - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? > -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason they've > gone > voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps? > > ./bernard > sent from my android device. > > On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: >> iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft will run > their >> own telecoms >> >> am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing things >> especially when it comes to data plans >> >> >> -- >> -erastus >> +254733725373 >> tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by >> ussdtweet|messaging365 >> Nairobi Kenya >
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Assuming 1/3rd of the 3 million plus data users buy this unbelievable offer, and considering the high capex required for the 3g/4g license and infrastructure (base stations, power, fiber backhaul, core equipment,etc), what would our ROI be and when would we breakeven with such cheap service? Just some of the queries we should expect from investors or VC... ./bernard sent from my android device. On Aug 14, 2011 5:51 PM, "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
true.... but to help give it a marketing boost (& a fashionable entrance), skunk-telco could start off with nationwide 3G/4G coverage, unthrottled unlimited data plans, cheap bundles..... may be industrial-grade wifi transmitters on every cell tower... skunk-telco could save cost with open source skunk-code, a few volunteer staff.... modest profit-making. .... well, with the above, i'd buy a SIM and volunteer for customer care on friday nights :-) ..... (... yeah, i may need to find a social life)
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What about the business acumen required? The technical know-how notwithstanding, the telecom industry is extremely versatile, competition is stiff. For anyone venturing into this, irrespective of capital base, mastering the market dynamics will determine success or burnt fingers.
Bernard
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
hmm... I guess you're ryt steve
so much for skunky-telco, :-D
On 8/14/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
computer engineers and electrical engineers who are the core of telecommunications are as competent in coding if not more than computer scientists.
Hardware
is not about screw drivers nuts and bolts, its about the low level code that contols that make the hardware work. The Apis computers scientists program against are designed by the electrical/computer engineers. in fact these engineers can do everything comp scientists do but comp scientists cant qualify to do what elec/comp engineers do.
----- "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
correction:
probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the *hardware* company more efficient
On 8/14/11, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
.... or the software company could buy the "core competencies" by buying the hardware company, and do quite well in, hypothetically, the telecom industry... probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the software company more efficient... after all, its binary data that runs these hardware, not bolts and gears
hmm.... i wonder how a skunkworks telco would do :-). I'm sure we have every professional needed, from hardware to software to PR and marketing...
anyways...
back to code-labour
On 8/14/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: > I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract > people who like working on physical stuff while software companies > attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into > hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous in > my books. > > On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: >> Kindly expound : >> - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? >> - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? >> -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason they've >> gone >> voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps? >> >> ./bernard >> sent from my android device. >> >> On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: >>> iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft will run >> their >>> own telecoms >>> >>> am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing things >>> especially when it comes to data plans >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -erastus >>> +254733725373 >>> tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by >>> ussdtweet|messaging365 >>> Nairobi Kenya >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Mark Mwangi > > http://mwangy.posterous.com > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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yes... forgive my short n00b foresight... but theeen, we could run like a NGO :-D... no profit, no loss. And besides... i'm sure we'll figure out a revenue model like the open-source guys (linux, centOS, obuntu, gnome, etc) did.... and the 3G/4G thing.... we could go the Orange way, and claim we're "testing it", and then like orange, we could black-mail GoK into paying the $$$ fees. ... and may be... just may be, as an NGO, we could get the fees waived as part of the tax exemption thingy NGOs get. and investment-wise... well, with volunteer skunkies, costs would be significantly reduced... and to reduce workloads, we'd just need to design and build elaborate, 99% uptime systems... and i'm sure we have more than enuf competent skunkies to achieve that :-) if we put our minds to it... we can pull it off!! On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Assuming 1/3rd of the 3 million plus data users buy this unbelievable offer, and considering the high capex required for the 3g/4g license and infrastructure (base stations, power, fiber backhaul, core equipment,etc), what would our ROI be and when would we breakeven with such cheap service? Just some of the queries we should expect from investors or VC...
./bernard sent from my android device.
On Aug 14, 2011 5:51 PM, "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
true.... but to help give it a marketing boost (& a fashionable entrance), skunk-telco could start off with nationwide 3G/4G coverage, unthrottled unlimited data plans, cheap bundles..... may be industrial-grade wifi transmitters on every cell tower... skunk-telco could save cost with open source skunk-code, a few volunteer staff.... modest profit-making. .... well, with the above, i'd buy a SIM and volunteer for customer care on friday nights :-) ..... (... yeah, i may need to find a social life)
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What about the business acumen required? The technical know-how notwithstanding, the telecom industry is extremely versatile, competition is stiff. For anyone venturing into this, irrespective of capital base, mastering the market dynamics will determine success or burnt fingers.
Bernard
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
hmm... I guess you're ryt steve
so much for skunky-telco, :-D
On 8/14/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
computer engineers and electrical engineers who are the core of telecommunications are as competent in coding if not more than computer scientists.
Hardware
is not about screw drivers nuts and bolts, its about the low level code that contols that make the hardware work. The Apis computers scientists program against are designed by the electrical/computer engineers. in fact these engineers can do everything comp scientists do but comp scientists cant qualify to do what elec/comp engineers do.
----- "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
correction:
probably even better than the hardware company because their software expertise can help make the operations of the *hardware* company more efficient
On 8/14/11, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote: > .... or the software company could buy the "core competencies" by > buying the hardware company, and do quite well in, hypothetically, the > telecom industry... probably even better than the hardware company > because their software expertise can help make the operations of the > software company more efficient... after all, its binary data that > runs these hardware, not bolts and gears > > hmm.... i wonder how a skunkworks telco would do :-). I'm sure we have > every professional needed, from hardware to software to PR and > marketing... > > anyways... > > back to code-labour > > On 8/14/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: >> I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract >> people who like working on physical stuff while software companies >> attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into >> hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous in >> my books. >> >> On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Kindly expound : >>> - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? >>> - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? >>> -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason they've >>> gone >>> voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps? >>> >>> ./bernard >>> sent from my android device. >>> >>> On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft will run >>> their >>>> own telecoms >>>> >>>> am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing things >>>> especially when it comes to data plans >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -erastus >>>> +254733725373 >>>> tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by >>>> ussdtweet|messaging365 >>>> Nairobi Kenya >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Mark Mwangi >> >> http://mwangy.posterous.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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i think it would be better if voice and sms (and all the possible SS7 crap into SIP etc) were routed on the data channel, that way the telco would concentrate on data only. we really need a game changer. -- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:20 PM, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
yes... forgive my short n00b foresight... but theeen, we could run like a NGO :-D... no profit, no loss. And besides... i'm sure we'll figure out a revenue model like the open-source guys (linux, centOS, obuntu, gnome, etc) did....
and the 3G/4G thing.... we could go the Orange way, and claim we're "testing it", and then like orange, we could black-mail GoK into paying the $$$ fees. ... and may be... just may be, as an NGO, we could get the fees waived as part of the tax exemption thingy NGOs get. and investment-wise... well, with volunteer skunkies, costs would be significantly reduced... and to reduce workloads, we'd just need to design and build elaborate, 99% uptime systems... and i'm sure we have more than enuf competent skunkies to achieve that :-)
if we put our minds to it... we can pull it off!!
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Assuming 1/3rd of the 3 million plus data users buy this unbelievable offer, and considering the high capex required for the 3g/4g license and infrastructure (base stations, power, fiber backhaul, core equipment,etc), what would our ROI be and when would we breakeven with such cheap service? Just some of the queries we should expect from investors or VC...
./bernard sent from my android device.
On Aug 14, 2011 5:51 PM, "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
true.... but to help give it a marketing boost (& a fashionable entrance), skunk-telco could start off with nationwide 3G/4G coverage, unthrottled unlimited data plans, cheap bundles..... may be industrial-grade wifi transmitters on every cell tower... skunk-telco could save cost with open source skunk-code, a few volunteer staff.... modest profit-making. .... well, with the above, i'd buy a SIM and volunteer for customer care on friday nights :-) ..... (... yeah, i may need to find a social life)
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What about the business acumen required? The technical know-how notwithstanding, the telecom industry is extremely versatile, competition is stiff. For anyone venturing into this, irrespective of capital base, mastering the market dynamics will determine success or burnt fingers.
Bernard
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
hmm... I guess you're ryt steve
so much for skunky-telco, :-D
On 8/14/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
computer engineers and electrical engineers who are the core of telecommunications are as competent in coding if not more than computer scientists.
Hardware
is not about screw drivers nuts and bolts, its about the low level code that contols that make the hardware work. The Apis computers scientists program against are designed by the electrical/computer engineers. in fact these engineers can do everything comp scientists do but comp scientists cant qualify to do what elec/comp engineers do.
----- "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
> correction: > > probably even better than the hardware company because their software > expertise can help make the operations of the *hardware* company more > efficient > > On 8/14/11, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones > <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote: > > .... or the software company could buy the "core competencies" by > > buying the hardware company, and do quite well in, hypothetically, > the > > telecom industry... probably even better than the hardware company > > because their software expertise can help make the operations of > the > > software company more efficient... after all, its binary data that > > runs these hardware, not bolts and gears > > > > hmm.... i wonder how a skunkworks telco would do :-). I'm sure we > have > > every professional needed, from hardware to software to PR and > > marketing... > > > > anyways... > > > > back to code-labour > > > > On 8/14/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract > >> people who like working on physical stuff while software companies > >> attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into > >> hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous > in > >> my books. > >> > >> On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Kindly expound : > >>> - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? > >>> - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? > >>> -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason > they've > >>> gone > >>> voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps? > >>> > >>> ./bernard > >>> sent from my android device. > >>> > >>> On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft > will run > >>> their > >>>> own telecoms > >>>> > >>>> am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing > things > >>>> especially when it comes to data plans > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> -erastus > >>>> +254733725373 > >>>> tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by > >>>> ussdtweet|messaging365 > >>>> Nairobi Kenya > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> > >> Mark Mwangi > >> > >> http://mwangy.posterous.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Not sure about the NGO model... But perhaps you meant to go the MVNO model? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator) In addition to not needing spectrum and core infrastructure, it can be focused on specific niche client base. Regulatory concerns and requirements would also be significantly lower. All this comes from the premise that given the same resources as the incumbents currently in the market, this group can produce significantly better results...right? On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:20 PM, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
yes... forgive my short n00b foresight... but theeen, we could run like a NGO :-D... no profit, no loss. And besides... i'm sure we'll figure out a revenue model like the open-source guys (linux, centOS, obuntu, gnome, etc) did....
and the 3G/4G thing.... we could go the Orange way, and claim we're "testing it", and then like orange, we could black-mail GoK into paying the $$$ fees. ... and may be... just may be, as an NGO, we could get the fees waived as part of the tax exemption thingy NGOs get. and investment-wise... well, with volunteer skunkies, costs would be significantly reduced... and to reduce workloads, we'd just need to design and build elaborate, 99% uptime systems... and i'm sure we have more than enuf competent skunkies to achieve that :-)
if we put our minds to it... we can pull it off!!
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Assuming 1/3rd of the 3 million plus data users buy this unbelievable offer, and considering the high capex required for the 3g/4g license and infrastructure (base stations, power, fiber backhaul, core equipment,etc), what would our ROI be and when would we breakeven with such cheap service? Just some of the queries we should expect from investors or VC...
./bernard sent from my android device.
On Aug 14, 2011 5:51 PM, "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
true.... but to help give it a marketing boost (& a fashionable entrance), skunk-telco could start off with nationwide 3G/4G coverage, unthrottled unlimited data plans, cheap bundles..... may be industrial-grade wifi transmitters on every cell tower... skunk-telco could save cost with open source skunk-code, a few volunteer staff.... modest profit-making. .... well, with the above, i'd buy a SIM and volunteer for customer care on friday nights :-) ..... (... yeah, i may need to find a social life)
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What about the business acumen required? The technical know-how notwithstanding, the telecom industry is extremely versatile, competition is stiff. For anyone venturing into this, irrespective of capital base, mastering the market dynamics will determine success or burnt fingers.
Bernard
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
hmm... I guess you're ryt steve
so much for skunky-telco, :-D
On 8/14/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
computer engineers and electrical engineers who are the core of telecommunications are as competent in coding if not more than computer scientists.
Hardware
is not about screw drivers nuts and bolts, its about the low level code that contols that make the hardware work. The Apis computers scientists program against are designed by the electrical/computer engineers. in fact these engineers can do everything comp scientists do but comp scientists cant qualify to do what elec/comp engineers do.
----- "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
> correction: > > probably even better than the hardware company because their software > expertise can help make the operations of the *hardware* company more > efficient > > On 8/14/11, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones > <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote: > > .... or the software company could buy the "core competencies" by > > buying the hardware company, and do quite well in, hypothetically, > the > > telecom industry... probably even better than the hardware company > > because their software expertise can help make the operations of > the > > software company more efficient... after all, its binary data that > > runs these hardware, not bolts and gears > > > > hmm.... i wonder how a skunkworks telco would do :-). I'm sure we > have > > every professional needed, from hardware to software to PR and > > marketing... > > > > anyways... > > > > back to code-labour > > > > On 8/14/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract > >> people who like working on physical stuff while software companies > >> attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into > >> hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous > in > >> my books. > >> > >> On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Kindly expound : > >>> - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? > >>> - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? > >>> -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a reason > they've > >>> gone > >>> voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps? > >>> > >>> ./bernard > >>> sent from my android device. > >>> > >>> On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft > will run > >>> their > >>>> own telecoms > >>>> > >>>> am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing > things > >>>> especially when it comes to data plans > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> -erastus > >>>> +254733725373 > >>>> tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by > >>>> ussdtweet|messaging365 > >>>> Nairobi Kenya > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> > >> Mark Mwangi > >> > >> http://mwangy.posterous.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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hmmm... interesting lead Mbugua. Thanks... On 8/15/11, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
Not sure about the NGO model...
But perhaps you meant to go the MVNO model? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator)
In addition to not needing spectrum and core infrastructure, it can be focused on specific niche client base. Regulatory concerns and requirements would also be significantly lower.
All this comes from the premise that given the same resources as the incumbents currently in the market, this group can produce significantly better results...right?
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:20 PM, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
yes... forgive my short n00b foresight... but theeen, we could run like a NGO :-D... no profit, no loss. And besides... i'm sure we'll figure out a revenue model like the open-source guys (linux, centOS, obuntu, gnome, etc) did....
and the 3G/4G thing.... we could go the Orange way, and claim we're "testing it", and then like orange, we could black-mail GoK into paying the $$$ fees. ... and may be... just may be, as an NGO, we could get the fees waived as part of the tax exemption thingy NGOs get. and investment-wise... well, with volunteer skunkies, costs would be significantly reduced... and to reduce workloads, we'd just need to design and build elaborate, 99% uptime systems... and i'm sure we have more than enuf competent skunkies to achieve that :-)
if we put our minds to it... we can pull it off!!
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Assuming 1/3rd of the 3 million plus data users buy this unbelievable offer, and considering the high capex required for the 3g/4g license and infrastructure (base stations, power, fiber backhaul, core equipment,etc), what would our ROI be and when would we breakeven with such cheap service? Just some of the queries we should expect from investors or VC...
./bernard sent from my android device.
On Aug 14, 2011 5:51 PM, "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
true.... but to help give it a marketing boost (& a fashionable entrance), skunk-telco could start off with nationwide 3G/4G coverage, unthrottled unlimited data plans, cheap bundles..... may be industrial-grade wifi transmitters on every cell tower... skunk-telco could save cost with open source skunk-code, a few volunteer staff.... modest profit-making. .... well, with the above, i'd buy a SIM and volunteer for customer care on friday nights :-) ..... (... yeah, i may need to find a social life)
On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What about the business acumen required? The technical know-how notwithstanding, the telecom industry is extremely versatile, competition is stiff. For anyone venturing into this, irrespective of capital base, mastering the market dynamics will determine success or burnt fingers.
Bernard
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
hmm... I guess you're ryt steve
so much for skunky-telco, :-D
On 8/14/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote: > > computer engineers and electrical engineers who are the core of > telecommunications > are as competent in coding if not more than computer scientists. Hardware > is > not about screw drivers nuts and bolts, its about the low level > code > that > contols > that make the hardware work. The Apis computers scientists program against > are designed by the electrical/computer engineers. in fact these engineers > can do > everything comp scientists do but comp scientists cant qualify to > do > what > elec/comp > engineers do. > > > ----- "John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones" < skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> correction: >> >> probably even better than the hardware company because their software >> expertise can help make the operations of the *hardware* company more >> efficient >> >> On 8/14/11, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich Jones >> <skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote: >> > .... or the software company could buy the "core competencies" >> > by >> > buying the hardware company, and do quite well in, hypothetically, >> the >> > telecom industry... probably even better than the hardware company >> > because their software expertise can help make the operations of >> the >> > software company more efficient... after all, its binary data that >> > runs these hardware, not bolts and gears >> > >> > hmm.... i wonder how a skunkworks telco would do :-). I'm sure >> > we >> have >> > every professional needed, from hardware to software to PR and >> > marketing... >> > >> > anyways... >> > >> > back to code-labour >> > >> > On 8/14/11, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I think it comes to core competencies. hardware companies attract >> >> people who like working on physical stuff while software companies >> >> attract coders so for a software company to attempt venturing into >> >> hardware sector like running a Telecom network would be disastrous >> in >> >> my books. >> >> >> >> On 8/14/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Kindly expound : >> >>> - How would Google,apple and Microsoft do it if in Telecoms? >> >>> - Any particular reason they haven't done so thus far? >> >>> -Google voice, Microsoft Skype, etc....There should be a >> >>> reason >> they've >> >>> gone >> >>> voice. Lack of last mile or backhaul infrastructure perhaps? >> >>> >> >>> ./bernard >> >>> sent from my android device. >> >>> >> >>> On Aug 14, 2011 5:01 AM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> iam looking forward to a day when Google, Apple and Microsoft >> will run >> >>> their >> >>>> own telecoms >> >>>> >> >>>> am tired of current carriers hanging to very old way of doing >> things >> >>>> especially when it comes to data plans >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> -erastus >> >>>> +254733725373 >> >>>> tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by >> >>>> ussdtweet|messaging365 >> >>>> Nairobi Kenya >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Mark Mwangi >> >> >> >> http://mwangy.posterous.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Skunkworks mailing list >> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >> ------------ >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Actually, if you are observant enough you will notice that you can now call from your Google account, and in some countries you can receive calls from several numbers using one Google Voice number, so it is no longer a Telecom world only.
@dennis the last mile data plans are pathetic On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, if you are observant enough you will notice that you can now call from your Google account, and in some countries you can receive calls from several numbers using one Google Voice number, so it is no longer a Telecom world only. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
I beleive you can call from you Google account(or any VoIP/SIP provider) to a PSTN/GSM recepient but the termination charges must apply. Back to the topic at hand, how would Google/Apple/Microsoft change the current game at hand by offering cheaper telecom service, re: data plans et al ? What would make (economic) sense for them: a traditional ISP model or telecom service provider? Bernard On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@dennis the last mile data plans are pathetic
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with the current setup how would a phone like this http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/12/icloud-iphone/ work seamless on the cloud? -- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
I beleive you can call from you Google account(or any VoIP/SIP provider) to a PSTN/GSM recepient but the termination charges must apply.
Back to the topic at hand, how would Google/Apple/Microsoft change the current game at hand by offering cheaper telecom service, re: data plans et al ?
What would make (economic) sense for them: a traditional ISP model or telecom service provider?
Bernard
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@dennis the last mile data plans are pathetic
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, if you are observant enough you will notice that you can now call from your Google account, and in some countries you can receive calls from several numbers using one Google Voice number, so it is no longer a Telecom world only. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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A true cloud phone needs an unlimited plan. AT&T did away with unlimited options last year, and Verizon Wireless followed suit this year. Safarirom introduced one late last year, burnt fingers and shelved it after one month, only to release it this late last month. Apple ipads and the rest are true cloud devices, but not traditional phones. But there's a reason why the likes of AT&T and Verizon did away with "unlimited"... Bernard On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:54 PM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
with the current setup how would a phone like this http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/12/icloud-iphone/ work seamless on the cloud?
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On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
I beleive you can call from you Google account(or any VoIP/SIP provider) to a PSTN/GSM recepient but the termination charges must apply.
Back to the topic at hand, how would Google/Apple/Microsoft change the current game at hand by offering cheaper telecom service, re: data plans et al ?
What would make (economic) sense for them: a traditional ISP model or telecom service provider?
Bernard
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@dennis the last mile data plans are pathetic
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, if you are observant enough you will notice that you can now call from your Google account, and in some countries you can receive calls from several numbers using one Google Voice number, so it is no longer a Telecom world only. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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@bernard i bet i has to do with technology limitations, but i stand to be corrected. obviously the telco technology will have to change somehow with this rate of mobile innovations coming up. thats just the way am looking at it and in most cases the mobile giants named might bring in what we NEED. -- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
A true cloud phone needs an unlimited plan. AT&T did away with unlimited options last year, and Verizon Wireless followed suit this year. Safarirom introduced one late last year, burnt fingers and shelved it after one month, only to release it this late last month.
Apple ipads and the rest are true cloud devices, but not traditional phones.
But there's a reason why the likes of AT&T and Verizon did away with "unlimited"...
Bernard
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:54 PM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
with the current setup how would a phone like this http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/12/icloud-iphone/ work seamless on the cloud?
-- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
I beleive you can call from you Google account(or any VoIP/SIP provider) to a PSTN/GSM recepient but the termination charges must apply.
Back to the topic at hand, how would Google/Apple/Microsoft change the current game at hand by offering cheaper telecom service, re: data plans et al ?
What would make (economic) sense for them: a traditional ISP model or telecom service provider?
Bernard
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
@dennis the last mile data plans are pathetic
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, if you are observant enough you will notice that you can now call from your Google account, and in some countries you can receive calls from several numbers using one Google Voice number, so it is no longer a Telecom world only. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Bernard Mwagiru -
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