@bernard i bet i has to do with technology limitations, but i stand to be corrected. obviously the telco technology will have to change somehow with this rate of mobile innovations coming up. thats just the way am looking at it and in most cases the mobile giants named might bring in what we NEED. <div>

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bmwagiru@gmail.com">bmwagiru@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

A true cloud phone needs an unlimited plan. AT&amp;T did away with unlimited options last year, and Verizon Wireless followed suit this year. Safarirom introduced one late last year, burnt fingers and shelved it after one month, only to release it this late last month.<br>


<br>Apple ipads and the rest are true cloud devices, but not traditional phones.<br><br>But there&#39;s a reason why the likes of AT&amp;T and Verizon did away with &quot;unlimited&quot;...<br><font color="#888888"><br>Bernard</font><div>

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On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:54 PM, gisho <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gichuhie@gmail.com" target="_blank">gichuhie@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


with the current setup how would a phone like this <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/12/icloud-iphone/" target="_blank">http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/12/icloud-iphone/</a>  work seamless on the cloud?<div><br></div>

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<br><br></div><div><div></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bmwagiru@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmwagiru@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


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I beleive you can call from you Google account(or any VoIP/SIP provider) to a PSTN/GSM recepient but the termination charges must apply.<br><br>Back to the topic at hand, how would Google/Apple/Microsoft change the current game at hand by offering cheaper telecom service, re: data plans et al ?<br>





<br>What would make (economic) sense for them: a traditional ISP model or telecom service provider?<br><font color="#888888"><br>Bernard</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, gisho <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gichuhie@gmail.com" target="_blank">gichuhie@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>





<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br clear="all"><span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:12px"><div>@dennis  the last mile data plans are pathetic </div>





<div><br></div></span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dennis Kioko <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Actually, if you are observant enough you will notice that you can now call from your Google account, and in some countries you can receive calls from several numbers using one Google Voice number, so it is no longer a Telecom world only. 
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